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Paul Vogel
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Default It is clear that Fred Streed is the one with P.S. here. :D

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Schizophrenia! So that is the type of loony you have been diagnosed as? Interesting.

OK, you're nuts. That was already a given, easy for anyone to see. But that really doesn't absolve you from responsibility for your actions, especially since by your own admission you have been given the proper medications to help you deal with it. It really doesn't matter to us White Nationalists what kind of a nut you are, all we really give a fuck about is your actions that involve the well being of Whites and pro-White efforts.
Sure Fred.
You are the actual Paranoid Schizophrenic.
See:
http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=2...postcount=3009

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Which gets us right back to some unanswered questions.

I don't think you ever answered the question about how well you knew William Pierce. Did you ever meet him? How many times?

Do you have a purpose posting on WN forums other than defaming Will Williams and the NA over your petty little bruised ego because you didn't have what it took to moderate the White Biocentrism forum for the NA?

Don't you think the decent thing to have done would have been to ask how else you could be of use to the organization built by Pierce (with a lot of work and sacrifice by others, members and staff)? You claim you want to carry on his work, but when given an opportunity to do so from within the very organization founded by Dr. Pierce you instead begin working to spike that organization. Why is that?

How do you justify doing everything within your power to damage Pierce's legacy while claiming to somehow be carrying on his work?

Any reasonable person with eyes and an open mind would have to conclude that your attacks on Williams are either done from petty spite or from an agenda to damage WNism by working to destroy an organization that seemed posed for a comeback. Those are about the only two reasonable options to explain your behavior here. Which is it?

Are your attacks on not only Williams, but Strom, Pringle, and myself an effort to cast doubt on Dr. Pierce through his known association with us? What else could possibly explain your determination to continue your character attacks on us despite getting your ass handed to you over and over like the loser and probable snitch you are?

Do you somehow think that you can manage to discredit those who worked with Pierce and set yourself up as the guy who tells interested young people who are just now getting involved with WN what Dr. Pierce's goals "really were"? I, and probably the jew, expect the numbers of young Whites who are showing an interest in their own ethnicity and racial beginnings to explode in the near future. Do you have some kind of agenda to de-emphasize Pierce's racial and anti-jew message by trying to focus undue attention on Cosmotheism? Cosmotheism was barely on the radar screen of the NA, or Dr. Pierce himself. There was an interest in it among some of the membership and staff but the goals and lifework of Dr. Pierce involved real world activism, a focus on political and social trends that are leading to our destruction. Your insistence that somehow spreading your cosmo truths are the only path to victory is bullshit and counterproductive. The problem is not that people don't know your cosmical truths of reality, the problem is that they are being genocided by a bunch of kikes using biological warfare in the form of niggers and low grade genetic scum from Mexico and other racial garbage dumps, psychological warfare waged through our educational system, and lies through the jew controlled news and entertainment media. Those are easy concepts for young Whites fed up with this jewed system to understand the relevance of. Most of them are too worried about just surviving in this White hating world to pay much attention to your "Whole Truths of Reality" and "Cosmos as a unified Whole co-evolving towards Godhood" (which most Whites who haven't had their minds damaged by xtianity or too much jew brainwashing understand on an instinctive level anyway). So why are you pushing this?

Those are all valid questions. I know you will evade them, you really have no other choice. But my job is to put them out here for others to consider.
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Paul, you creepy little bastard, you wouldn't know a "Whole Truth of Reality" if it was kicking your fucking ribs in.
Sure Fred.

Come and visit me and perhaps I will show you one up close and personally.
You may get real lucky and not require any "physical assistance", thereafter.
There is no use in giving any physical assistance or physical therapy to the dead now is there?


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And I don't think you ever answered the question about how well you knew William Pierce. Did you ever meet him? How many times?
I don't think you ever answered the question as to why you didn't
order an autopsy for the late Dr. Pierce if you had thought that he
had been murdered? Or my yes or no questions and many others.

See:
http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=2117021&postcount=22

Yet, you think you deserve to ask me about my communications
with Dr. Pierce? E.H. his former secretary knows it but that is it.

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Do you have a purpose posting on WN forums other than defaming Will Williams and the NA over your petty little bruised ego because you didn't have what it took to moderate the White Biocentrism forum for the NA?
Leading question, Fred.
Have you stopped beating your wife Marta?

My purpose for posting on VNNF was to tell the truth about Williams' "new" NA to help others from making the same mistakes that I had made of my ever trusting him. Williams has betrayed all of my original trust in him and in some others, yourself included, Fred.
Here is an example of him betraying Dr. Pierce's Cosmotheism by censoring this "Our Cause" video out of spite of NARRG supporters:
http://www.narrg.com/2016/08/william...cks-our-cause/
However, be it noted that NARRG being "Big Tent" by also advocating or allowing CI Christians to be members is equally hypocritical.
See another "Our Cause" video here:

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Originally Posted by Fred Streed View Post

Don't you think the decent thing to have done would have been to ask how else you could be of use to the organization built by Pierce (with a lot of work and sacrifice by others, members and staff)? You claim you want to carry on his work, but when given an opportunity to do so from within the very organization founded by Dr. Pierce you instead begin working to spike that organization. Why is that?
The decent thing to do is to always tell the truth and the facts, Fred.
Something that you and Williams seem incapable or unwilling to do.
The same for all of those still supporting and covering for Williams.

The organization built by Dr. Pierce was ruined by all of those corrupt
Chairman since his death. That is why personal integrity matters, Fred.

Williams is just as guilty as Gliebe and Walker of lying hypocrisy and of
being untrustworthy and of malfeasance and thievery of corporate assets.
Like a fish, all organizations always do rot starting from the head down.

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How do you justify doing everything within your power to damage Pierce's legacy while claiming to somehow be carrying on his work?
That is a question that both you and Williams and KAS really do have to answer,
because that is exactly what you all have been doing with your lies and hypocrisy.

Cosmotheism originally was always the spiritual heart of the NA under Dr. Pierce and all three of you have now only betrayed it.
Williams by his undermining and by his compromising it with now allowing in not just nominal Christian as members and also in
denying Cosmotheism as being central to the NA in a sworn affidavit.
See:
http://www.narrg.com/2014/11/the-hyp...will-williams/

NARRG is equally guilty, if not more so, in denying the central spiritual role of Cosmotheism within all of Dr. Pierce's works.

KAS only compromises both Cosmotheism and himself by falsely covering for Williams' lying hypocrisy and ignorant
bullying and unwise decisions that exposed members both past and present to SPLC attacks and loss of employment.
See:
http://whitebiocentrism.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=2456
And:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...818-story.html

What KAS doesn't tell you is that unlike the Dr. Pierce case Williams was found guilty because there was an eyewitness.
Michael O. Another NA staffer, that reported the battery to the police, and of which Williams was found guilty and also
was sentenced and getting six months imprisonment.

See:
http://www.narrg.com/2016/03/william...tery-of-woman/

KAS by his throwing Dr. Pierce under the bus in that article of his at NV to conflate and "cover" for William's crimes is unforgivable.
JM, of whom used to support KAS for up to $500 a month, or all until that article and broadcast, had really had enough after that one.

Williams appeal is this Thursday and Fred Streed also will be there as well to help him to overturn his conviction with his affidavit.
See:
http://noncounterproductive.blogspot...-williams.html

"Hadding Scott" is just the "gas-lighting" lying hypocrite that censored almost all of my answers to his own "spin" on Williams's guilt,
both with this battery of a female NA employee but also in having my own posts deleted and censored and my SF account inactivated.
See:
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=360697

Fred Streed is a known liar and hypocrite and friend for Williams, as seen in his personal attacks on me here both at this thread and elsewhere on VNNF for my telling the truth and facts and in all of his threatening and delusional posts and pm's or like this unsolicited one to me here:

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Fred Streed
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Fred Streed
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Go fuck yourself punk.
I am getting tired of dealing with your stupidity. You don't even have brains enough to come up with your own insults, you stupid son of a bitch. The best you can do is "no, I'm not butt hurt, you are butt hurt." I have heard 4 year olds come up with better than that.

I tried for over a year to ignore your idiot fucking punk ass because I knew you were a moron just looking for attention, and not worth my time. But you wasn't satisfied, you wanted some attention from the big boys. Well you dumb bastard, you got it, I have bitch slapped your stupid ass about 9 ways from Sunday on the forum but you are either too stupid to realize it or you just crave attention so much that you don't care.

It is an insult to the memory of William Pierce for a piece of shit like you to even say his name. He was a damned good friend of mine, he spent a hell of a lot of time hanging out with my wife and me, more than anyone else probably in his entire adult life, and it pisses me off that a little chickenshit nobody like you tries to ride on his work when you don't understand the first fucking thing about it. Your problem with me isn't Will Williams, it is that I know you are a phony shit talking piece of garbage and you know I know it. The very idea of a clown like you pretending to be some kind of successor to Dr. Pierce is a sick fucking joke. You stupid son of a whore, you can't even string together two sentences without fucking it up.

Dr. Pierce would not have wasted one minute with your low IQ ass, he would have had me either put you to work digging a ditch or escort you off the property. About one minute of your stupidity and I would have opted for the latter, and I really would not have cared how much skin you lost in the process as I frog marched your silly ass off the property.

I hope I have the chance to meet you at some point. I'm really going to enjoy kicking your teeth down your throat if you are stupid enough to get froggy (which I intend to give you every opportunity to do), you sorry bastard. Go fuck yourself you little puke.

Fred Streed
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Originally Posted by For Understanding
I even agree with some of your points, Fred. God did regret making mankind (Genesis 6). You just kicked both God's and my ass. Congratulations.

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Any reasonable person with eyes and an open mind would have to conclude that your attacks on Williams are either done from petty spite or from an agenda to damage WNism by working to destroy an organization that seemed posed for a comeback. Those are about the only two reasonable options to explain your behavior here. Which is it?
Not at all.

Williams ruined that possibility of a comeback himself only with his own many "unwise decisions" and "ignorant and bullying behaviors" and his working with the SPLC to out his NA critics and members both past and present and censor them at and even on both other WN forums and other blogs as well.

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Are your attacks on not only Williams, but Strom, Pringle, and myself an effort to cast doubt on Dr. Pierce through his known association with us? What else could possibly explain your determination to continue your character attacks on us despite getting your ass handed to you over and over like the loser and probable snitch you are?
The attacks are mostly on Williams, since he is the biggest liar and hypocrite and is the Chairman.
Strom and Pringle and yourself are moral cripples that still continue to support him and regardless
of all of his quite obvious mental issues. Emily H. is another lying hypocrite here on VNNF as well.

Williams is the proven SPLC snitch and loser along with Dilloway and those facts that you all are in
denial of is what makes all that still do support Will Williams as NA Chairman and is also Trustee of
the CCC as being all losers as well.

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Do you somehow think that you can manage to discredit those who worked with Pierce and set yourself up as the guy who tells interested young people who are just now getting involved with WN what Dr. Pierce's goals "really were"?
Yes, by showing the many differences between what Dr. Pierce wrote and what you all actually do and write.
You all are lying hypocrites thereby that degrade his works and true legacy: Cosmotheism.

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Originally Posted by Fred Streed View Post

I, and probably the jew, expect the numbers of young Whites who are showing an interest in their own ethnicity and racial beginnings to explode in the near future. Do you have some kind of agenda to de-emphasize Pierce's racial and anti-jew message by trying to focus undue attention on Cosmotheism?
Yes, that awareness is growing.
No.
Both and and not either or, Fred.
The former is the what and by whom and the latter is the why we should really care.

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Cosmotheism was barely on the radar screen of the NA, or Dr. Pierce himself. There was an interest in it among some of the membership and staff but the goals and lifework of Dr. Pierce involved real world activism, a focus on political and social trends that are leading to our destruction.
That is just bs, Fred.

Cosmotheism was the spiritual basis for everything that Dr. Pierce taught.

See:
American Dissident Voices: Toward a New Consciousness

Broadcast of March 1, 2014
by Kevin Alfred Strom

Listen to the broadcast: http://nationalvanguard.org/2014/03/...consciousness/


Dr. William Pierce, founder of both Cosmotheism
and the National Alliance.
Image source: Kevin Alfred Strom

A “TAX DODGE.” A “bogus religion.” Something he “abandoned” in later years in hopes of attracting Christians. So have William Pierce’s opponents, both within and without White nationalist circles, characterized Cosmotheism, the religion founded by Dr. Pierce.

But these characterizations are false. The Cosmotheist world view — the view that our race is the vanguard of the Universe’s evolving self-consciousness — was central to everything that Dr. Pierce wrote, uttered, and built during the last quarter century of his life.

The allegation that Dr. Pierce never believed in Cosmotheism and concocted it to get a tax exemption is so obviously preposterous that it really can’t be taken seriously. I’ll squash that idea with a heavy steel hammer in a future program. The most dangerous false claim about William Pierce and Cosmotheism, however, is more subtle and therefore harder to see, and it has even been embraced by some who claim to carry William Pierce’s banner: the idea that he essentially abandoned Cosmotheism — and his opposition to Christianity — in later years in order to make the National Alliance and his other efforts more “Christian-friendly” and to implement a “big tent” approach in which the National Alliance leadership cadre could include men and women whose morals and values were based on ancient Semitic scriptures.

This claim is not only false, but it is actually the reverse of the truth.

In its very early years, before Dr. Pierce’s world view was fully formed, the National Alliance and its newspaper Attack! were geared toward encouraging a racial-revolutionary attitude among White youth who opposed the degenerate Jewish-inspired “counterculture” of the early 1970s. Though the official founding of Cosmotheism was eight years in the future in 1970, during those eight years Dr. Pierce wrote article after article critical of the Christian churches and of Christianity generally. In those years and immediately afterward, in his Attack! and later National Vanguard newspapers he published such articles as: “The Role of the Church,” “Churches Bent on Suicide,” “Churches Misdirect Young Americans,” “A Rite of Summer,” and others with a decidedly critical attitude toward the Hebrew-derived faith.

Dr. Pierce’s seminal speech, Our Cause, written to explain the mission of the National Alliance in 1976 when the group was but six years old, is Cosmotheist both in its deepest meaning and in its tone, though written at a period during which Dr. Pierce still entertained the idea that “Jesus the Galilean” might have been a non-Jew fighting against the Jewish establishment of the time. One of the speech’s most inspiring passages is the following:

“Our purpose is the purpose for which the earth was born out of the gas and the dust of the cosmos, the purpose for which the first primitive amphibian crawled out of the sea three hundred million years ago and learned to live on the land, the purpose for which the first race of men held themselves apart from the races of sub-men around them and bred only with their own kind. It is the purpose for which men first captured lightning from the sky, tamed it, and called it fire; the purpose for which our ancestors built the world’s first astronomical observatory on a British plain more than 4,000 years ago. It is the purpose for which Jesus, the Galilean, fought the Jews and died 2,000 years ago; the purpose for which Rembrandt painted; the purpose for which Shakespeare wrote; and the purpose for which Newton pondered. Our purpose, the purpose with which we must become obsessed, is that for which the best, the noblest, men and women of our race down through the ages have struggled and died whether they were fully conscious of it or not. It is the purpose for which they sought beauty and created beauty; the purpose for which they studied the heavens and taught themselves Nature’s mysteries; the purpose for which they fought the degenerative, the regressive, and the evil forces all around them; the purpose for which, instead of taking the easy path in life, the downward path; they chose the upward path, regardless of the pain, suffering, and sacrifice that this choice entailed.”

Some sixteen years later, around 1992, Dr. Pierce’s views had evolved to the point that he was embarrassed by the “Jesus, the Galilean” phrase, as he told the Alliance’s Membership Coordinator (and current Director) Will Williams.

Williams writes: “Our Cause is an important speech, given in 1976. I was inspired by it as [many] are today, but not because Dr. Pierce mentioned Jesus as he did, in passing. Look at that sentence in its context, and remember that this was written by him [38] years ago. Soon after I went to work for Dr. Pierce in 1992, knowing how he felt about the adverse impact of Christianity on the race, I asked him specifically why he thought he had to add that, to me, repulsive sentence about the Galilean. I still remember exactly where we were standing at the time, and his defensive reaction: ‘Well, Goddamn, Will, what am I supposed to do now, do the speech over and leave that sentence out?’ There were too many audio tapes in circulation by then to redo Our Cause and leave that part out. Believe me, he wished he hadn’t put that reference to Jesus in that speech.”

But we don’t have to fast forward 16 years to see Dr. Pierce abandoning any hint or hope that Christianity or the figure of Jesus could be of any help in advancing the racial cause. By 1977, it could be fairly said that Cosmotheist ideas were foremost in Dr. Pierce’s mind. In that year he recorded two important speeches with an explicitly Cosmotheist basis, originally delivered at National Alliance meetings at the Alliance’s National Office in Arlington, Virginia: Human Dignity: A Racial Ethic and Cosmotheism: Wave of the Future. In the early 1980s I restored and edited those recordings for publication in the National Vanguard Books catalogue. What wasn’t included on the copies that were sold, though, were the openings of the meetings, which included the Cosmotheist affirmation, read out loud by all in attendance. Here is that affirmation:

“There is but one reality. That reality is the Whole. It is the Creator, the self-created. I am of the Whole. I am of the Creator, of the self-created. My purpose is the Creator’s purpose. My path is the path of the Creator’s self-realization. My path is the path of divine consciousness. My destiny is godhood.”

Also in 1977, Dr. Pierce published “Conservatism or Radicalism,” which I included in the book The Best of Attack! and National Vanguard (1984), in which he speaks of the spiritual foundations of the National Alliance: “Our dream is a progressive dream, a dream of unlimited progress over the centuries and the millennia and the eons which lie ahead of us. It is no conservative dream of peace, no sheeplike dream of ease and consumption and safety, but a dream of the achievement of our Destiny, which is Godhood. It is the only dream fitting for men and women of our race; it is the spirit of the Creator, it is the Universal Urge within us, expressing itself through our race-soul….

“We don’t hope to make revolutionary idealists out of the egoistic and materialistic masses, but we do hope to awaken and inspire and recruit that minority of our people in which the Divine Spark already burns brightly enough to illuminate their souls and their minds so that they can grasp our Truth. And the way to do that is to present our Truth to them as purely and as plainly and as clearly as we possibly can—not to dress it in a conservative disguise, which leads only to confusion.

“We want everyone to know that we understand that what’s really important is not whether we can elect a government which won’t try to impose racial quotas on us or whether we can achieve domestic tranquility but whether the Truth that is in the race-soul of our people shall overcome the alien falsehoods which rule us now, so that that Truth can guide us once again to the upward Path, to the Path of the Creator’s Self-Realization, and so that we can once again become agents of the Universal Will—except this time fully conscious agents—and resume our never-ending ascent toward our ordained Destiny.”

That, according to William Pierce, is the fundamental basis of the National Alliance. That’s not a philosophy or a strategy at all compatible with traditional Christianity or the more recent “Christian Identity” variant which retains the Hebrew scriptures but posits that White people are the “true Israelites.”

In 1978, Dr. Pierce published “What Is to be Done?”, also available in The Best of Attack! and National Vanguard, in which he delineates the organizational structure necessary for our dream to become real: “[W]hat is to be done to save our race, in spite of itself?

“…The answer, in brief, is that an organization must be built which satisfies the following requirements:

“It must be, first of all, not an ad hoc organization, but an organization based on fundamental principles, an organization with a world view, essentially religious in nature, shared by every member of the organization.

“It must be, in structure, a hierarchical organization, like an army — or a religious order — with the degree of understanding, of commitment, and of discipline increasing with the level of responsibility in the organization.

“It must be, in scope, an all-encompassing organization, an organization which not only generates propaganda and which recruits and trains new members, but which becomes eventually a community unto itself, self-sufficient spiritually and materially, providing all the functions and capabilities needed for carrying out its task — ultimately a separate state within the state.”

A state within a state, a new society, led by an elite imbued with an essentially religious mission — a Cosmotheist mission — which defines not only the purpose of its members’ lives, but the purpose of Life itself in the Universe: This is Dr. Pierce’s vision of a White future. Those who reject it place themselves outside of the Alliance. Those who suggest a “National Alliance” in which Identity adherents and zealots who base their values on Semitic scriptures can be leading figures have placed themselves outside of the National Alliance — whether they know it or not.

In the same year, William Pierce penned “The Faustian Spirit,” in which he warns that our race must not “become a race solely of lawyers, clerks, laborers and merchants, but remain a race also of philosophers, poets, and inventors: of seekers of ultimate knowledge, of strivers toward the perfection which is Godhood. When we take the longest viewpoint, we can see that the Faustian spirit, tenuous though it may be, is European man’s entire justification for existence.” The idea expressed here by Dr. Pierce is fundamentally at odds with Christian doctrine.

Toward a New Consciousness:“Criteria for a White Future”

In “Criteria for a White Future,” he explains that the members of the organization that will save our race will necessarily have undergone an all-encompassing “spiritual renewal” which will revolutionize their values at the most fundamental level. Does that sound like it is compatible with Presbyterianism or “British Israel” or Sunday school homilies? I don’t think so.

In 1980′s “Why the West Will Go Under,” Dr. Pierce discusses the human qualities worthy of survival, the same qualities we should seek in building National Alliance cadres: “The[se people] must be free of the superstitions and prejudices of this age; those who are mentally bound to this age will go down with it…. They must be motivated by a single purpose, the overwhelming importance of which is always foremost in their minds; it has been the purposelessness of this age on which the West has foundered, but the new age will be illuminated and shaped by a common purpose transcending all other considerations: namely, the purpose of bringing forth a higher type of man and attaining thereby a higher level of consciousness in the universe.”

One of the most important statements William Pierce made on the subject was 1982′s “On Christianity,” published in the National Alliance Bulletin and now available on nationalvanguard.org, in which he says “No honest, conscientious Alliance member can maintain his membership in the Alliance and also in an organization which is fundamentally opposed to the goals and principles of the Alliance. The former member who belongs to the Moral Majority acted correctly in resigning from the Alliance, and the same applies to others: Any Alliance member who is also a member of a church or other Christian organization which supports racial mixing or Zionism should decide now where he stands, and he should then resign either from his church or from the Alliance.

“In fact, the great majority of Alliance members who originally had some Christian church affiliation have already made their decisions and left the churches….

“If, despite everything above, there are Alliance members or prospective Alliance members who still consider themselves Christians, then it must be in the sense that they value the specifically White elements of Christianity which have been added since its origins — the great art, the great music, and the great architecture produced by White men during the centuries in which the Christian churches ruled Europe — and that they also share the White spiritual feelings which have been eloquently expressed by many men and women who were Christians and who applied the adjective “Christian” to feelings which, in fact, came from deep within the White race-soul and existed long before the advent of the Christian church. Such Christians we can call our comrades and be proud to have in our ranks.”

So, when “big-tenters” say that Christians were accepted as members in Dr. Pierce’s National Alliance, they are technically correct — but there were strict restrictions, and spiritual evolution had to already be present to a large degree. And an evolution in spiritual values, an evolution beyond Christianity, was certainly expected of any who took a leading role.

Dr. Pierce’s 1997 radio essay, “On Churchgoers,” which on balance is deeply critical of Christianity, is sometimes quoted by “big tent” advocates because of one passage toward the end of the piece: “I say to all of my friends, to all self-respecting White men and women, Christian or not: Let’s not concern ourselves with doctrinal quibbles now. Let’s not concern ourselves with whether or not our neighbor believes in virgin birth and walking on water; let’s concern ourselves with whether or not he cares about the survival of his people and is willing to do something for that survival. If he or she does care, and if he or she is willing, then he is our brother, then she is our sister.”

Clearly, Dr. Pierce didn’t want conflict between the Alliance and racially conscious White Christians. We’re both on the same side in a titanic struggle for survival. Even in reaching out to these well-meaning folks, though, he urged them to place their scripture-based doctrines lower on their scale of values than their racial consciousness. But the “big tenters” want to use that paragraph to argue that believing Christians ought to be able to form part of the Alliance’s leadership cadre, something totally contrary to what Dr. Pierce said again and again.

It’s clear that Dr. Pierce’s views on spirituality evolved over time, but in quite the opposite direction claimed by the “big tent” folks. By the mid-1990s, the National Alliance had issued its Membership Handbook, which was still in force at the time of Dr. Pierce’s death in 2002. Its section on Christianity — which Dr. Pierce defined in its pages as an “opposing ideology” — is the strongest evidence imaginable showing that, in William Pierce’s view, the Middle Eastern faith was incompatible with the qualities sought in National Alliance leaders.

In the Handbook, he discusses Christianity as an asset of our race’s enemies: “Egalitarianism in turn gains support from Christianity, which declares all believers equal [as in the verses]: ‘There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.’ (Galatians 3:28) By denigrating all worldly aspects of life, where natural inequality is so manifest, and emphasizing the otherworldly, which is less subject to scrutiny, Christianity has been able to maintain without revision much of the original egalitarianism which gave it a strong appeal to the slaves and other dispossessed groups in the decaying Roman Empire. Today Christianity provides a moral prop for those who want to justify the doctrine of human sameness.”

I’ll publish the entire National Alliance Membership Handbook section on Christianity as an appendix to the written version of this program. But let me illustrate its essence here with these passages: “The immediate and inevitable fact which forces us to come to grips with Christianity is that the mainstream Christian churches are all, without exception, preaching a doctrine of White racial extinction…. The occasional anomaly—a Catholic bishop in Poland speaking out angrily against Jewish arrogance, a few Protestant groups in the United States expressing sympathy for oppressed Palestinians—does not invalidate the rule.

“…We are obliged, therefore, to oppose the Christian churches and to speak out against their doctrines. But we do not, as some groups have done, accuse the Christian leaders of being false Christians. We do not say, ‘We are the real Christians, because we stand for the values which the mainstream churches stood for a century ago, before they were subverted.’ We do not reach for our Bibles and point to verses which seem to be in accord with the policies of the National Alliance and contrary to the present policies of the Christian churches. A diligent Bible scholar can find in the Judeo-Christian scriptures support for–or ammunition against–virtually any policy whatsoever.

“…Christianity, like the other Semitic religions, is irredeemably primitive. Its deity is thoroughly anthropomorphic, and its ‘miracles’—raising the dead, walking on water, curing the lame and the blind with a word and a touch—are the crassest superstition.

“We need ethics; we need values and standards; we need a world view. And if one wants to call all of these things together a religion, then we need a religion. One might choose instead, however, to call them a philosophy of life. Whatever we call it, it must come from our own race soul: it must be an expression of the innate Aryan nature. And it must be conducive to our mission of racial progress. Christianity, as the word is commonly understood, meets neither of these criteria.”

This, the most profound rejection of Christianity he ever published, came late in Dr. Pierce’s life and in the full maturity of his judgement. It was still being printed, still in full force and effect, when he died. Yet it was the first of his writings to be censored and excised from National Alliance publications by those who, by chance, bad fortune, and bad judgement, inherited the name — but not the essence — of the National Alliance.

[See here, Christianity, an ideology opposed to that of our Alliance's, from the National Alliance Membership Handbook, first edition, 1993: http://whitebiocentrism.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=515]

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The political and social trends were all just symptoms of our underlying spiritual disease.
You can't really fix these two former trends without all addressing the spiritual one first.
See:
http://whitebiocentrism.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=556

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Originally Posted by Fred Streed View Post

Your insistence that somehow spreading your cosmo truths are the only path to victory is bullshit and counterproductive. The problem is not that people don't know your cosmical truths of reality, the problem is that they are being genocided by a bunch of kikes using biological warfare in the form of niggers and low grade genetic scum from Mexico and other racial garbage dumps, psychological warfare waged through our educational system, and lies through the jew controlled news and entertainment media.
On the contrary, Dr. Pierce knew that his Cosmotheism was primary and is what is fundamental to a real lasting victory over the long haul. All of those other problems are really just symptoms of a spiritual disease of the soul of our people.

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Originally Posted by Fred Streed View Post

Those are easy concepts for young Whites fed up with this jewed system to understand the relevance of. Most of them are too worried about just surviving in this White hating world to pay much attention to your "Whole Truths of Reality" and "Cosmos as a unified Whole co-evolving towards Godhood" (which most Whites who haven't had their minds damaged by xtianity or too much jew brainwashing understand on an instinctive level anyway). So why are you pushing this?
Why?
Because it answers the real question as to "why" they should really care, Fred.
That is why.

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Originally Posted by Fred Streed View Post

Those are all valid questions. I know you will evade them, you really have no other choice. But my job is to put them out here for others to consider.
Some were valid questions and some were leading questions and straw-man and red herring logical fallacies, Fred.
But, the valid ones were all answered.

Not because you are owed any such answers, Fred.
You betrayed Dr. Pierce. You never ordered an autopsy. You resigned and let Gliebe and Walker and now Williams destroy the NA that Dr. Pierce had built.

It is for anyone else that wants to know the whole truth that Fred and all of the others that still ignorantly do support Williams but that really do need to know before being bait and switched in his egoistic affinity scam that is now called his "new" NA.

Last edited by Paul Vogel; December 19th, 2016 at 11:28 AM.