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Old June 4th, 2008 #6
Greg Gerdes
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In summarizing my “debate” with Roberto Muehlenkamp, we can start with my foundational question to her:

“Roberta, can you locate the alleged “huge mass graves” of Treblinka on this Sept., 1944 aerial map of Treblinka?”

http://www.death-camps.org/treblinka/pic/bmap8.jpg

After initially claiming, repeatedly, that it would be impossible to do so, Roberta then said that, yes, after further analysis, she could indeed locate some of the alleged “huge mass graves” of Treblinka on said aerial photo and presented the following analysis as “proof:”

http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...r1944_edit.jpg

(Remember her own words: “I think that 1, 2 and 3 are in all probability pits for corpses which were used during the first phase of Treblinka and 4 is the "Lazarett.")

Please note: She also presented the following “eyewitness testimony” of Abraham Krzepicki and Jankiel Wiernik which she claims “proves” the accuracy of her analysis:

http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/384...ml#reply-38414

Then, when asked if she could provide any physical evidence of the alleged Treblinka holocaust, she presented as “proof” these photos, allegedly taken by the 1946 Polish / jewish / communist investigation team, which she claims discovered "an area of 20,000 square meters covered by human remains and human remains to a depth of 7.5 meters," at the site:

http://www.death-camps.org/treblinka/lasttracks.html

http://www.death-camps.org/treblinka/photos.html

Please note: You can read about the Treblinka investigation mentioned above here:

http://vho.org/GB/Books/t/4.html

She also emphatically claimed that the following photographs were also taken at Treblinka and even provided us with their captions:

1 - Jews loading bodies onto a wagon, apparently in the Treblinka camp:

http://www.infocenters.co.il/gfh_mul...5811_1_web.jpg

2 - Skeletal remains at the site of the Treblinka extermination camp:

http://www.infocenters.co.il/gfh_mul...5808_1_web.jpg

3 - One of the enormous pits in the Treblinka camp into which the victims' corpses (and later, ashes) were thrown.

http://www.infocenters.co.il/gfh_mul...5813_1_web.jpg

She also claimed that the existence of at least one “huge mass grave” of Treblinka has been proven and presented the following photograph as her “proof:”

An open mass grave in Treblinka in 1943. Arad, Yitzhak; The Pictorial History of the Holocaust, p. 299

http://holocaust-info.dk/treblinka/i...mass_grave.htm

And she again presented her analysis of this alleged “physical evidence:”

http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...grave_edit.jpg

(Remember her own words: “Shapes pointed out look human. They are neither wooden planks not tarpaulin sheets.”)

She then presented the following photograph of the alleged “homicidal gas chambers” of Treblinka as her “proof” of its existence:

http://www.holocaust-history.org/Tre...Figure36.shtml

Then, when asked if the alleged “huge mass graves” of Treblinka could be located today, she said that they could not because “grave robbers” had obliterated all traces of them in their search for “jewish gold” and presented the following “evidence” for this alleged “Treblinka Gold Rush” and resultant obliteration of said graves:

http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/925...ml#reply-92506

Then, when asked if she could prove the existence of so much as a single tooth found at Treblinka, she claimed that the above link also “proves” that teeth were found at the site and offered the following quote from said link as “proof” of this:

“In the peasant's pockets there were golden rings and teeth of Jews… With the grave robbers we found golden rings, crowns and porcelain teeth with gold and silver inlays."

She then went on to add that the following quote from Vassili Grossman’s report of his alleged investigation offers additional “proof” that teeth were reportedly seen at Treblinka:

"The earth is throwing out crushed bones, teeth, clothes, papers."

Please note: You can read about Grossman’s alleged investigation here:

http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/955...ml#reply-95592

And here:

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?topic=4194&forum=2

Please note: Her claim that teeth were found at Treblinka totally contradicts her earlier claim that the Germans had obliterated the tens of millions of teeth by crushing them into “tooth meal” with “plugs,” which she claimed was done / looked like this:

http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...neGrinders.jpg

However, when asked why no one has ever been able to locate even one of the alleged “huge mass graves” of Treblinka or even an iota of the remains of the alleged millions of pounds of crushed bone, tens of millions of teeth, tens of thousands of bullets and shell casings or so much as a single corpse which she claims were left in the bottom of the “huge mass graves” in a “wax-fat transformation,” she claims the reason is because there is a “20,000 square meter concrete plate” which covers the entire alleged “huge mass graves” area and all the alleged physical evidence and presented this photo as “proof:”

http://www.infocenters.co.il/gfh_mul...5703_1_web.jpg

And that’s it folks! Seriously, that’s all the alleged physical evidence that the freaky little bitch was able to present as "proof" of the Treblinka holocaust! And please do take the time to read the alleged “eyewitness and documentary evidence” that I included at Roberta’s insistence. Seriously, she actually claims that that nonsense actually substantiates the “physical evidence” she presented!

I will add one more very concise recap of all the "physical evidence" that she presented in my next post.