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Old September 28th, 2012 #73
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The government (the tax payer) and private industry have thrown millions into Operation Ore and forward operations of a similar type. One force was reportedly spending one third of its time on these operations. People were thrown out of their jobs, into jail, monitored by police, ss or child advocates. Overall, a staggering cost. Even if the pictures found were morally reprehensible, they were still just pictures, and that should never be forgotten.

It is estimated that the cost of splitting a family is about 80,000, but part of the operational tactics of Ore were to do just that.

The trick was of course, what price has the wellbeing of a child? This was never actually the issue, and never have children been so hideously abused as by Operation Ore. Even if that were not so, no one dared speak the truth. If it cost 10 billion pounds to save the life of a child, should this be paid for? We live in a capitalist system, like it or not, cost is nearly always an issue. A parent might well give everything for their child and more, but governments have a different role to play as they have sustainability and the wellbeing of all to consider.

Despite all the vast amount of money spent, there was one cost that had never been factored in. What is effectively SOCA, were so powerful a police force, so unaccountable, they probably thought they would never get caught and be held accountable to the civil and criminal laws of this land. Similarly with local forces, accountability had been long abandoned by a government hell bent on protecting its interests over those of the people. In practice, with the likes of SOCA at the top, the police in the United Kingdom had become a political party in its own right.

The hidden cost was compensation. Just as illicit imagery appeared on a few web sites linked to the Landslide payment system in 1998, in the same year, a landmark ruling in the UK, cleared the way for compensation claims if police officers failed in their duty to protect members of the public. Previously the police had largely enjoyed immunity from being sued from negligence after Hill vs Chief Constable of South Yorkshire and similar rulings.

In the case of Operation Ore, although gross negligence was clearly evident, the police set out to destroy people's lives rather than protect them. Bill Hughes, Stuart Hyde, Jim Gamble and others, pretended considerable sensitivity and accuracy was being used in these cases. It would be hard to imagine bigger lies. They don't even dare to count the dead.

The grounds for compensation of those hit by Operation Ore are not simply based on negligence. The Operation was supported by a whole series of orchestrated lies. That was just the corruption at what is effectively SOCA, individual forces and officers took part in depraved behaviour, the likes of which is a curse on the whole nation state, and a blight on the reputation of the police service as a whole.

Courtesy of the European Court of Human Rights, there are laws that have supremacy over the whims of government. The police operated outside of UK criminal and civil law, they assaulted people on mass (many more than just the Landslide list), the very opposite of their duty to protect. Instead of protecting society, they corrupted the morals of a whole nation.

So we have another question. What rights does a person have not to be assaulted by the police, and when that happens, and in such a fashion as it did in these cases, what is the price? With compensation, there is always a price.

Let us assume for a moment, the true hideous nature of Operation Ore was fully exposed, there cannot of course be adequate compensation and many are dead. For the sake of argument, let us assume compensation was commensurate with some of the crimes committed by the police, and that each Oree agreed to a one million compensation payment.

Some 5,000 Orees had their rights if not their lives directly assaulted, that is 5 billion pounds. That is without including the real numbers of people blighted by these operations which is many times more than those arrested. That is a problem the government will have to find an answer for. It is a secret, the government, the police, the child advocates, the newspapers and virtually every instrument of state, would no doubt rather the public did not know.

The Politics Of Operation Ore

Politics has become a dirty word, but it is synonymous with power and the use of that power, very relevant to understanding how corruption takes a hold.

Capitalism is the prevailing system throughout the world. It is promoted most by the the societies that have profited from it the most. It has numerous practical benefits. People are seldom satisfied and want more and more. Capitalism encourages this, and the more successful people are, the more they earn.

There can be a humanitarian face to capitalism. The more people earn, the more tax can be collected to help those in need, be they old, young, ill, deprived or just unlucky. Capitalism delivers because it provides the money to fund the services to help people.

When capitalism is carefully regulated, it strikes a balance between prosperity and humanity. It uses what is immoral, the lust for money, for moral purposes, the funding of care. The balance is of course the critical issue and the best societies are ones that are governed the least.

When the state exceeds a certain size, it becomes less accountable, state and the public diverge and society is set on the road to ruin. In the UK, we are already quite some way down that road.

An early example was speed enforcement. The police asked to keep a commission from the revenue of speeding tickets, effectively asking to profit from crime. The government consented, and there were clear financial incentives for the government in doing so.

We started this section perhaps, with the greed of mankind, and the police went out and issued tickets by the million. With a licence to print money, they used it, who wouldn't?

The police then became a political force of their own, with their own propaganda machine. They showed pictures of children being hit by cars, in an attempt to demonise speeding as part of antisocial behaviour. This social engineering required propaganda to mask the truth. The raw government statistics told a different story. What was being marketed as a safety campaign, was actually killing people and turned some of the safest roads in Europe into death traps. The trick worked, the police and government got their money and the public were criminalised as of course the law was waved at motorists like a moral instrument.

Using capitalism to feed crime, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy and the police had been corrupted overnight by the lure of money and with it, the days of a healthy 5% year on year road safety dividend were destroyed.

Children were also the marketing weapon of choice in Operation Ore. In a successful economy, with opportunity, education and increasing social economic benefits available to so many, child abuse would automatically decline, again a natural 5% per annum perhaps as has been recorded over some 8 years in the US.

Unlike road accidents, the true figures of child abuse are not easily open to inspection, and astronomical statistics are banded around like facts from those that stand to profit from them. As this is something that typically happens within families and is seldom reported or accurately measured, no real figures can be available. It is however, entirely reasonable to presume, there would be a decline in child abuse in direct proportion to the advance in social economic norms in the UK. It should be noted, a climate of fear has a detrimental effect on society as a whole though it can be useful to those who seek to control it.

Again, dirty politics come into play, very much like the speed cameras. Social services are on performance related pay. That is, the more children they take into care, the more money they get. One doesn't need statistics to know what will happen as a consequence, you pay people to take children away and children will be at risk. Operation Ore brought these issues out into the open and appalling stories emerged of children being stolen without any reason at all and very much to the detriment of the children concerned.

Then it comes to policing in general, performance related pay. Not a reward based on merit where police were paid in inverse proportion to the level of crime, but they were actually rewarded for crime. Again, one does not need to see the statistics, a very simple equation to understand and people were busted and thrown into jail, no matter the nature of the crime if indeed it happened at all. The absurd situation results, where the crime rate can increase inline with the size of the police force.

Then along came Operation Ore. This went beyond what could simply be described as corruption. We have a new police unit, effectively what is to be called SOCA (Serious Organised Crime Agency). Unregulated power, control of information. It was no longer a police unit, it had entered the dirty world of politics as a party on its own. Instead of just being offered money, they campaigned for it and were quite willing to deceive to get their hands on it.

They had a small percentage of people that might have accessed illicit websites drawn from a large list of names. It just needed a huge lie, in fact a series of them, to convert from one list to the other. Landslide was not the big demon it had been made out to be, just one of countless portals, but their credit clearance services made this a profitable enterprise for its owners.

Contentious age imagery had crossed into the general public domain long before and was circulating amongst the pool of adult material on the net. It had been scooped up into private pay adult sites, and many surfers hit it by accident. Of course, if something was there, whatever it was, some people would look at it, and a few dollars on the credit card was not relevant at all. One of the worst parts of the con trick, was to present the contents of hard disks of people surfing the Internet as if this was the contents of their minds. Everything was on the Internet, the worst of it put on display to the court.

SOCA made several funding attempts during Operation Ore, each time after more money. They did not stop at government, they paid for commercial advertising to support their campaign, took what looks like protection money from ISP's and even US defence suppliers made a showing. This was a business, without public accountability or even visibility.

Unlike the speeding, the raw statistics were hidden behind closed doors, together with many other dark secrets. Out of a vast range of websites using Landslide's payment systems, some 0.2% were proven to be dedicated to contentious age imagery, actually well below the norm judging by other sites examined of a similar nature. In effect, one of the little guys had been taken out. There were 7,272 possible adult surfers, 0.2% of sites involved confirmed incriminating but thousands busted and many lives destroyed by each bust. Many more are dead than the public realise, yet few asked questions or dared to speak the truth.

Although only a small percentage of subscribers linked to Landslide had paid to access this material, SOCA had a large list that was worth a lot more money. Landslide was involved in a huge range of types of material, but that is not the story the public was told, the official story was 7,000 or more people had been in a ring of dangerous people suspected of the most appalling crimes and children were at risk.

If that had been true, you might as well bust the entire population of adult surfers. It is not the scale of the crime that SOCA did that is so shocking, but the damage it caused. They hid many of the details, like the number of people killed by it, but courtesy of the Internet, people were able to find each other, information and the truth. The Internet had everything, it was used for purposes good and bad, but it empowered the individual, and overall, it is a resource of such benefit, it should be defended against any entity that seeks to control it.

After an initial exercise in busting people who had accessed contentious age imagery, the lure of money and power was just too great a temptation. A force within a force had the power, means and motive to commit serious crime, and that is what happened. The more they got away with, the more they went after. The self fulfilling prophecy of corrupt capitalism.

A bent speeding ticket, however devastating, does not compare with what was done in Operation Ore and operations of this kind. People were being killed, tortured and destroyed on mass. Civil rights, justice and the law were swept aside, just for money and power.

Huge lies were told, and of course history has been quietly recording the truth of these events. In other parts of Europe, the truth of Operation Ore was told as a joke, but here in the UK, the rule of fear, the power of a corrupt police unit, almost everyone stayed silent. 'Child protection was a priority for the police', a lie in itself, was enough to silence many critics.

When corruption is endemic at the top, it spreads. They obtain more and more power and exert a tighter and tighter grip to protect their ill gotten gains. The people who have sought to expose that truth are already under attack and where this leads and when is in the hands of fate.

All that stands in the way of justice, is a series of orchestrated lies. One way or another, the truth will find a voice no matter how many messengers are attacked or destroyed.

Some sick f***ers out there.

The Guardian spins it as credit card theft.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) didn't like our lead story last week exposing the faults that run through the Operation Ore investigations - namely, that the police didn't investigate sufficiently whether credit card transactions on a pornography site were really made by the owners of the credit card, or just by website owners operating fraudulently with stolen details.

The CPS wrote a letter for publication claiming Duncan Campbell's investigation was "wrong", but offered no statistics or detail. It seems the CPS doesn't keep any statistics about the success - or failure - of Operation Ore cases; at least, not centrally. Ore was a police operation that started with the names of more than 7,000 British suspects whose details had been found on the servers of Landslide, an American pornography portal, in 1999.

The police collect evidence for a prosecution, and then hand those cases which might succeed in court to the CPS, which decides whether or not to prosecute. In about 500 cases, the police simply issued a caution - a strange way to deal with someone guilty of dabbling in child pornography, you might think. And you'd be right.

So much about Ore, when examined closely, doesn't quite fit. Cast your mind back to 1999. Most of the UK was on dialup. Actually, that's putting it mildly. An Ofcom report said: "In the UK, less than 1% of the population subscribe to broadband services." (click here and search for "broadband".) About one in 10 people bought stuff online, but the cost of dialup meant three-quarters of people spent only about five hours a week online.

So what is more likely? That in 1999, thousands upon thousands of child porn-seeking Britons were on dialup lines ready and willing to hand over their credit card details to a site in another country? Or that a group of webmasters who had set up a series of sites for money discovered that by using stolen credit cards they could make a mint, without any real penalty?

Certainly, uncovering child abuse and paedophilia is essential. Child abuse destroys innocence and trust, which cannot be restored, and its effects often last a lifetime. But Operation Ore has itself wrongly destroyed livelihoods and lives. "This was all supposed to be about child protection," wrote one British woman whose husband was falsely accused. "I can't find a single child better off because of Operation Ore."