View Single Post
Old November 20th, 2013 #15
Joe_Smith
Senior Member
 
Joe_Smith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 3,778
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Linder View Post
Wrong. Whites are naturally more individualistic than jews. It's biological, not cultural. There is no way to make up for this except through thinking, planning and will.
You really think the harsh climate Europeans developed and triumphed over favored individualist/self-centered behavior, over altruistic and communal behavior?

If anything, you're thinking about niggers. It's Sub-Saharan Africans who developed in an area of plenty, which bred selfishness. This is the reason why niggers shoot their uncle over the last chicken wing in the KFC bucket, while struggling white minimum wage Wal-Mart employees turn out their last dime to help worst-off coworkers have a dignified thanksgiving meal.


Quote:
Also, how do you sit there talking about whites not coming together as a team when you're simultaneously promoting a jew-created cult, christianity, that teaches whites to see themselves as part of humanity rather than a race, and in fact deliberately talks down race? Christianity is the source of the idea that non-whites are there to fill the pews in our mission-schools, there for us to raise up and provide examples for. That kind of crap thinking has led us where we are today. Whites need defense against attack from other races.
I am, first of all, agnostic if anything. I am closer to a Buddhist in my beliefs, than to a Christian.

That said, there have been situations where Christianity has been a uniting force for the people of Europe and its defense. The historical examples are obvious. It has also been used for a force of destruction, I concede that.

In the end a person's religion is their personal business. I do believe in the separation of church and state. Your lashing out at Christianity is misguided, since the Church simply wets its thumb, raises it to the wind, and submits to whatever direction the current is blowing towards, since its main objective is to survive.

Quote:
Your bias is completely against competent people and in favor of a view that sees whites as powerless, incompetent, needy and helpless - like niggers in every possible way except less violent. You ought to give 1/100th the thought to protecting and promoting competent white people over taxing and drawning from them to subsidize white incompetence. A very sharp division must be made between whites as between deserving and undeserving poor. I'm not theorizing. I grew up bourgeois, and I've been a small businessman. And I've also spent better part of two decades among the working class. It's quite easy to see that many if not most of the working class can't rise in position due to their own behaviors and character. Not because of their income. That's the same lie that's told about niggers. The vast majority of the working class simply will not act in its own best interest. Our concern ought to be for the fellow who works and saves. Who hurts him the most? The jew-sellout government stealing his purchasing power by diluting the currency - which you, as a communist, have no problem with, you just want your guys running things. Then you've got taxes. That's the other reason the guy who actually works has difficulty improving his material station. But your ilk trains these people, who are competent, to look to government to provide stuff for them, when in fact they don't need that. They can provide for themselves. What they need is government not to cheapen the money and not to reward shitty behavior with taxes taken out of the correctly behaving workers' paychecks.
Again, you are building up strawmen to bayonet. Who said I am happy about able-bodied men sitting around smoking grass on the tax-payers dime? You make the neo-con error of confusing arguments for a Socialist state with the present Judeo-Plutocratic system of America that redistributes white wealth to useless groids that don't want to work.

People who are productive ought to be compensated as such. But some of the people you call productive are just good at cutting corners and cheating, not helping their country. If you want a system where the advancement of the race and nation are the center, then you cannot follow Left or Right dogmas.

Quote:
Your view, Joe, will create more white niggers. White niggers are the only whites you have any sympathy for. Your view is directly dysgenic. Your view is why we have probably five million people in this country, WHITE, NOT NIGGERS, who are paid $1000 a month as former drug addicts or alcoholics. All they do all day is listen to music, get high, get drunk. And the guy who works at Walmart has to pay for them. These people deserve no money or subsidy at all, they should die off if their relatives don't want to take care of them.
If anything, it's capitalism that is dysgenic. It's how diabolical Jews rise to the top and create million dollar empires selling child-porn, while creative white people that have no choice but to work at Wal-Mart are forced to use their ingenuity to find ways to eek out a living.

I support cutting off the drunks and drug addicts. In the Third reich this was the rule, hell even in Cuba and the USSR they didn't subsidize these people. The only places where this happens is in Jewish-plutocratic "social-democracies".

The problem I have is that you are not even arguing with my economic beliefs, you are just attacking what American neo-cons call socialism.

Quote:
White nationalism is not for losers. If it is...we already have the christian cult for that.



You talk foolishly of things you know nothing about. Jews compete and cooperate, they give a lot of money to their own racial causes, and to other non-racial causes they think will advance their agenda. Nothing's stopping whites from doing that except they're good little white dogs, and when they're told not to identify with their race, they listen. Who tells them that? Their church, in large measure. And you back their church while lecturing me. Again, find me one mandrill in Greece who will publicly support Golden Dawn. You can't. The cult is universalist, and that can't be changed. We have no war with whites who don't want to be white, we're just going a different direction. That ought to be our psychology, rather than trying to "save our race," typically hybristic formulation. I'm not trying to reclaim any jebusites, I'm simply pointing out the conditions their cult's thinking must eventually produce.
The church only does what the powers that be demand in exchange for their tax exemption. That said there are some principled elements within the Christian exemption that oppose this, such as St Pius X or some elements of the Orthodox faith.

Quote:
For other reasons irrelevant here. The jews that took over the Bank of England started in Frankfurt, after all.
Yeah, under enormous pressure. The Jews had to deal with constant confrontations with socialist-minded Germans, while in capitalist England they just had to buy off a few individuals to get God-like control over their banks and currency. The Jews love it when the Goyim worship Mammon, IE the basic philosophy of capitalism, it's men who they can't buy that they use violence against. The French and Bolshevik revolutions are examples of this. Capitalist countries were always allies of Jewish power by default, while even Stalin- a guy they breast-fed and raised- wound up making their hit-list and got poisoned. If you can't observe this faultless pattern then you are not adept at studying the history of Jewry.

Quote:
If there's still jews in the country then my conditions haven't been met. Your desire to boss around people is so strong you'd leave jews inside white countries even if you had the power to kill or expel them. I would not. Things that are worth doing don't need to be subsidized by the government. If they were worth doing, the market would be doing them - example is alternative energy. How many billions have been wasted on this shit? It's your hubris to think that a bunch of idiots who share your politics can decide things better than people who actually know what they're doing. See socialized health care - the government can't even operate a website. But it's going to run health care. And it will be "free." This kind of foolishness only makes sense when the population thinks at a nigger level, which is one more reason you favor policies that effectively turn whites into niggers.
If you think Obamacare is actually socialized medical care, you have obviously not read into it. Obamacare is crony capitalism that only benefits Jewish owned insurance companies.

Switzerland and Germany have actual universal health care. I'd rather get medical care there than in America.

Quote:
Facts don't go away because you refuse to acknowledge them. You can claim you're not a communist, but you still think ideologically. When facts prove you're wrong, you ignore them in favor of your religious-political myth.
The ones who subscribe to religious myths are the end-of-days gold standard cultists. People who think ideologically are those who want to pretend that markets are some supernatural autonomous force and judge of behavior. In reality, a handful of Jew billionaires do what they want with the market, and willfully choose whether they want it to collapse or not.


Quote:
If a jew says 2+2 = 4, he's wrong because he's a jew, right? Yeah, but the communism you used to believe in, that has no jewish association at all. It's real chutzpah for you to try to claim markets is some kind of jewish scam rather than a real and existing reality. Whites don't need government micromanaging their lives. That's how we got where we are today.
I don't, again, believe in Communism. If anything, you have more to do with Communism than me, with your fanatical atheism and belief of markets/economy being a more powerful historical force than men. These are the basic tenets of Bolshevik thought, while economics tended to vary depending on who was in charge. Lest we not forget that markets under Lenin's New Economic Plan were "freer" than in Czarist Russia.

The problem with Libertarianism and laissez-faire isn't about a Jew telling the truth. It's more so about the fact that all of the greatest supporters of your economic beliefs are Jews or people that were mentored by Jews, which I bring up only to raise your suspicions.

You yourself have said that Jews do nothing unless it has a tribal or political value for them. Fact is, Jews support capitalism and individualism for us, while they support Socialism for themselves. But the fact remains, you like Jews as long as they are economic liberals. The academics of economic liberalism are just as Jewish as the Marxists. You simply cannot be logically consistent if you think the Jewish ethnicity of the Marxist theorists is central to their beliefs, yet ethnicity has nothing to do with liberal theorists just because you personally like what those kikes have to say .

When Jews are suffering hard times anywhere in the world, every Kike from New York to Katmandu rushes to bail them out, while people like you would rather watch white people starve to death in front of supermarkets full of unaffordable rotting food, because of course any government intervention would upset your mythical, omnipotent market God.

Spengler and Yockey noted that Jews prefer the chaotic nature and class struggle provoked by capitalism, over the national harmony of Socialism. Actually, pretty much all the Aryan leaders of the 1930's, 40's, 50's, etc saw the same thing.

People who get so angry at the idea of paying a Janitor enough to support their family tend to do so for selfish or narcissistic reasons, rather than racial ones. A lot of rich assholes have a God-complex, even if they inherited their wealth or created it in a dishonest fashion. But at the end of the day, the work a Janitor contributes to society (cleanliness--->disease prevention--->better standard of living for everyone) is far more valuable than the "work" of a fucking day trader who speculates on White people's pensions in his underwear. If this is Communism or pure ideology to you then so be it.
__________________
"The favorite slogan of the reds is: 'No Pasarán!: Yes we have passed! And we tell them...and we tell them, we will pass again!'"
― Benito Mussolini after the Communist capitulation in Barcelona

Last edited by Joe_Smith; November 20th, 2013 at 04:47 PM.