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Old December 9th, 2014 #39
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Modern public education comes from Prussia and India, not ancient Greece. It was recognized nearly from the start it was the perfect tool for enforcing a state partyline. A minority in Massachusetts realized that, and now they with the jews run the world, and we pay for and suffer from it.
The Spartans (war oriented education) and Athenians (culturally oriented), and later the Romans (under Nero, who is slandered as a tyrant but was actually a popular leader that established the equivalent of a high school) had popular schooling systems that co-existed with private mentorship. The complexity of Aryan culture requires informal years so that future generations can understand and build upon the achievements of their ancestors. A modern nation can't function when large segments of its population is...illiterate. Furthermore, those who do not know where they come from fall into apathy and nihilism.

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You don't like what jews do, but you have no problem with coercing people. These are contradictory positions. This is why decentralization of everything that can be is preferable, because tends to wind up in the hands of people who want to tyrannize others. If we want to force people to obey our whims in every particular, then how are we different from the Massachusetts set? I want to use as little coercion as possible, and as much cooperation as possible. I don't like being forced into systems, or forced to pay for things.
That's because my concern is saving the race and rebirth of our culture, not pandering to the minority that bloviates about made up things like "natural rights" as the world falls around them. No matter what you do, or how you do it, you will always find yourself at a fork in the road where you have to decide whether to coerce some people or not to protect your revolution. If you choose not to, then you'll get crushed by forces willing to impose their will, just like the Paris Communards or the Kronstadt rebels.

There aren't any "natural rights" in the struggle to survive, that's just your liberal utopianism speaking. The world is at the whims of those who rise to the top of the pyramid, and this hierarchy will exist in even the most de-centralized systems. Instead of debating such an obvious law of nature, we should start thinking about how this hierarchy will be chosen and regulated. Britain and America's geographical isolation has led to its greatest thinkers, where a lot of this pseudo-anarchist stuff comes from, thinking they have more luxuries than they actually do-because they were sheltered. 20th century developments have been as unkind to classical liberals as they have been to Marxist-Leninists: 17th Century Locke was wrecked by 5th century BC Plato.

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They're education majors. People join the lower end of government out of self-interest. NEA teachers generally HATE actual learning - they fear it. It's all groupthink and certificate hurdles that amount to a union entry card or guild barrier.

Private tutoring works best, at least up until you get to the advanced stuff. With the internet there is less call for tax-coerced education than ever.
Your description of the NEA and modern public education is spot-on, but aside from that you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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