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Old June 13th, 2009 #1
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Default Philosemitic noise at Gates of Vienna, Auster approves

Critique of the Culture of Kevin MacDonald
by Takuan Seiyo

(It's very long and very boring.)

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/20...macdonald.html


Yiddy Auster approves

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/013406.html

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Gates of Vienna and Brussels Journal etc. are apparently what passes for defending Western civilization in Europe. Philosemitism and shallow denunciations of "multi-culturalism."
 
Old June 13th, 2009 #2
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When he mentions important Jewish leftists like Leon Trotsky, Rosa Luxemburg and Herbert Marcuse, MacDonald fails to mention that these are not the heroes of Jews, or even just of Jewish radicals, but of the entire continental European intelligentsia.
How does that undercut MacDonald? He clearly shows how Jews have cloaked their movements in universalism and humanism to make them attractive to Gentile intellectuals. A current example is that very defender of the West Lawrence Auster, who’s seduced of plenty of white faileocons over at OD.

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There is hardly any doubt that Jews have so enriched the European civilization and its American outpost, and in so many ways, that an analysis that dwells only on the debit column of the ledger, as MacDonald’s does, is skewed.
This shows the utter intellectual dishonesty of people who call themselves conservatives today. The major thinkers of Europe very much doubted that Jews enriched their civilization on net. The tradition of Europe was as E. Michael Jones describes: Jews were tolerated for commercial and religious reasons but were not allowed to have cultural influence. Jews were kept in ghettos to protect society from their corrosive effects, and to protect them from society’s justifiable indignation.
 
Old June 13th, 2009 #3
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Auster is a kike.
 
Old June 13th, 2009 #4
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The tradition of Europe was as E. Michael Jones describes: Jews were tolerated for commercial and religious reasons but were not allowed to have cultural influence. Jews were kept in ghettos to protect society from their corrosive effects, and to protect them from society’s justifiable indignation.
If this were true then National Socialism wouldn't have even been necessary and we wouldn't be in the dire position that we are in today.

The truth is that "court jews" had a tremendous amount of cultural influence in Europe. 1688's Glorious Revolution in Britain was completely financed by international jewry, while in 1700 in Austria jews had "anti-semitic" literature banned and confiscated (read about it here: http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=81141).

These are just small examples. My blog posts (links in my sig) go into detail and they have very credible citations (eg. encyclopedias written and published by jews themselves).
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How does that undercut MacDonald?
It doesn't. The three people cited as an example would not have become prominent without Jewish help.

Additionally, Kevin MacDonald does not claim that European gentiles do not or can not have heroes or gods, he merely claims that Europeans culturally/racially are more individualistic and more resistant to submission to human authority figures than people from the east (i.e. Jews) are.

The author of this articles does not give any convincing examples of how promulgation of socialism into mainstream gentile culture is equivalent to the deep psychological commitment to authority figures that is prominent among Jews. Probably because he has not read anything Kevin MacDonald wrote beyond his article in VDARE about the leftist Jews at Madison.

This blog, like the others (Ian Jobling) who try to "debunk" Kevin MacDonald show their wholesale ignorance of him and his work by writing this garbage.

Many of the criticisms (I wont go through all of them here) are answered by things MacDonald has wrote elsewhere.

These people are obsessed with demonizing Islam at all costs but don't you dare paint the Jews with the same brush they use to paint Muslims with! If you find one example of a decent/good Muslim, you'll be painted as a PC loony leftist. If you tell the truth about the Jews in even a fair light like Kevin MacDonald does (who goes out of his way to say "its not all Jews who do this"), a long and sophomoric rant about how unfair it is will be written by the same folks
 
Old June 13th, 2009 #6
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Auster is a kike.
Larry Auster is an excellent case study of a Jew infiltrating and attempting to subvert nominally race conscious whites through misdirection. By all outward apperances Auster is an assimilated, pro-white person who just happens to be of Jewish ancestry; you know, the kind of Jews some people say should be accepted into WN with open arms. Despite the fact that Auster even went as far as to convert to Roman Catholicism and I think he married an Aryan, we still see the standard Jewish ethnic M.O. emerging. Here he praises some person, I presume a Jap, who critiques Kevin MacDonald. Auster wants us to believe that Jews are essentially innocent dupes following their destructive anti-white agenda either due to naivete or for perfectly understandable reasons (the standard Jew whine that the evil Goyim forces them into it). Of course, he doesn't deny that Jews that doing the things of which McDonald accuses them, only that they're not motivated by malice and can presumably be reformed. Oh, so its OK then? In the end, I say who cares why when the fact is that they're doing so and not likely to ever change is the important issue!

Let me put it this way: a termite chews wood without any malice whatsoever - he's just doing what comes natural. BUT that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop him. Certainly if we allow termites to have their way, in the end our house is destroyed. Their motive is completely irrelevant to the result! The same is true with Jews, except I don't really buy Auster's argument that there's no malice behind Jewish activity. Maybe some Jews aren't consciously malevolent, but many are. This is beyond argument. All anyone has to do is read the Talmud to understand this. Like wise with the Termites destroying a house, you allow Jews to have their way and your nation is destroyed.
 
Old June 13th, 2009 #7
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Let me put it this way: a termite chews wood without any malice whatsoever - he's just doing what comes natural. BUT that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop him. Certainly if we allow termites to have their way, in the end our house is destroyed. Their motive is completely irrelevant to the result! The same is true with Jews, except I don't really buy Auster's argument that there's no malice behind Jewish activity. Maybe some Jews aren't consciously malevolent, but many are. This is beyond argument. All anyone has to do is read the Talmud to understand this. Like wise with the Termites destroying a house, you allow Jews to have their way and your nation is destroyed.
Jews defile, and they enjoy defiling. They have a lot of malice and envy in them, a lot of hostility. They like dragging things down, verbally always, physically where they are allowed to get away with it. The best representation of the jew and the proper reaction to it is the nazi poster with the big blond disgusted Aryan mucking the beglassticled expostulating kike out of society on the end of a pitchfork. Jews are a people-shaped animal without grace, honor or dignity; they do not belong among us.
 
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It's not Auster worth worrying about. Jared Taylor is the one to watch. It was his type that lost this country in the first place - the high-IQ WASP effetes who allowed the jews to take over when they cried, because they didn't want to make a scene. Must never doubt a man's motives. Treat others as we want to be treated. Note the way this all flies out the door when the effete WASP encounters someone willing to address the problem people directly. Jared's "not taking a position on the jewish question" = "they look white to me," and "no criticism of jews will be allowed at AmRen." Taylor takes a position on jews. His position is that Whites must never criticize them, only themselves. That jews are to be treated as Whites, even though they aren't. That jews can insult White leaders like Duke, but Whites must remain polite and turn the other cheek. Whites must fight to overturn the 1965 Immigration Act, but never acknowledge that it was jewish pressure alone that made it law. Whites must fight to rescind the law that denied us free association back in the sixties, but never acknowledge that it was jews who criminalized it. Even though it was the jews who brought us the laws reducing whites to terrorized slaves in their own land; even though the jews who created these conditions are more firmly entrenched in power than ever, we must never, ever mention those facts and stick to blaming our White parents and grandparents, for they are the real problem.

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Old June 13th, 2009 #9
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It's not Auster worth worrying about. Jared Taylor is the one to watch. It was his type that lost this country in the first place - the high-IQ WASP effetes who allowed the jews to take over when they cried, because they didn't want to make a scene. Must never doubt a man's motives. Treat others as we want to be treated. Note the way this all flies out the door when the effete WASP encounters someone willing to address the problem people directly. Jared's "not taking a position on the jewish question" = "they look white to me," and "no criticism of jews will be allowed at AmRen."
FYI: The AmRen email list has open discussions of the Jewish problem everyday. That barrier was broken when the pro-Jew moderator, Ian Jobling, quit. The anti-Jew members just wore him out. The present mod is Jew-wise. Taylor has no direct control over that list.
 
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A mention of just 50 years of Russian history prior to 1917 would have to include at the least the tremendous, fascist-style oppression under Alexander II, Alexander III and Nicholas II and the royals’ rabid anti-Semitism, the many state-sanctioned mass murders (i.e. “pogroms”) of Jews, arbitrary deportations and destructions of Jewish communities, the Okhrana and the Black Hundred, the blood-libel Beilis trial and the forgery of the Protocol of the Elders of Zion, the super anti-Semitic and tsar-sponsored Union of the Russian People, the prominent roles of Jew-haters like Konstantin Pobedonostsev [read Wikipedia entry here], restrictions on habitation, education and access to the professions, and a prevailing atmosphere of hatred and disdain for Jews in all institutions of tsarist Russia except only the nascent communist conspiracy.

But mentioning that, though it would not excuse the Jewish Bolsheviks’ retaliatory atrocities, would put a dent in the MacDonald theory of the self-propelled evil evolutionary Jew. Hence no mention.
You start defending jes, you start defending communism. Fine conservatives.

Why not?
 
Old June 14th, 2009 #11
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A mention of just 50 years of Russian history prior to 1917 would have to include at the least the tremendous, fascist-style oppression under Alexander II, Alexander III and Nicholas II and the royals’ rabid anti-Semitism, the many state-sanctioned mass murders (i.e. “pogroms”) of Jews, arbitrary deportations and destructions of Jewish communities, the Okhrana and the Black Hundred, the blood-libel Beilis trial and the forgery of the Protocol of the Elders of Zion, the super anti-Semitic and tsar-sponsored Union of the Russian People, the prominent roles of Jew-haters like Konstantin Pobedonostsev [read Wikipedia entry here], restrictions on habitation, education and access to the professions, and a prevailing atmosphere of hatred and disdain for Jews in all institutions of tsarist Russia except only the nascent communist conspiracy.
A mention of just 50 years of Western European history prior to 1917 would have to include the very blatant fact that kikes had almost completely usurped finance, government, press and education in that region.

Russia's "pogroms" and "anti-Semitism" were by no means an offensive, but rather a defensive against a very evil judeo-offensive. The author of this propaganda is counting on the masses' ignorance of history.


Dostoevsky wrote an article in 1877 titled "The Jewish Question". Let one of the greatest writers and thinkers of all time enlighten you, lurkers:

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I know that in the whole world there is certainly no other people who would be complaining as much about their lot, incessantly, after each step and word of theirs -- about their humiliation, their suffering, their martyrdom. One might think it is not they who are reigning in Europe, who are directing there at least the stock exchanges and, therefore, politics, domestic affairs, the morality of the states.

... Now, how would it be if in Russia there were not three million Jews, but three million Russians, and there were eighty million Jews -- well, into what would they convert the Russians and how would they treat them? Would they permit them to acquire equal rights? Would they permit them to worship freely in their midst? Wouldn't they convert them into slaves? Worse than that: wouldn't they skin them altogether? Wouldn't they slaughter them to the last man, to the point of complete extermination, as they used to do with aliens in ancient times, during their ancient history?

...Thus, Jewry is thriving precisely there where the people are still ignorant, or not free, or economically backward. It is there that Jewry has a champ libre. And instead of raising, by its influence, the level of education, instead of increasing knowledge, generating economic fitness in the native population -- instead of this the Jew, wherever he has settled, has still more humiliated and debauched the people; there humaneness was still more debased and the educational level fell still lower; there inescapable, inhuman misery, and with it despair, spread still more disgustingly. Ask the native population in our border regions: What is propelling the Jew -- and has been propelling him for centuries? You will receive a unanimous answer: mercilessness. 'He has been prompted so many centuries only by pitilessness to us, only by the thirst for our sweat and blood.'

And, in truth, the whole activity of the Jews in these border regions of ours consisted of rendering the native population as much as possible inescapably dependent on them, taking advantage of the local laws. They have always managed to be on friendly terms with those upon whom the people were dependent. Point to any other tribe from among Russian aliens which could rival the Jew by his dreadful influence in this connection! You will find no such tribe. In this respect the Jew preserves all his originality as compared with other Russian aliens, and of course, the reason therefore is that status of statu of his, that spirit of which specifically breathes pitilessness for everything that is not Jew, with disrespect for any people and tribe, for every human creature who is not a Jew....

Now, what if somehow, for some reason, our rural commune [i.e., the institutionalized system of Russian peasant society] should disintegrate, that commune which is protecting our poor native peasant against so many ills; what if, straightaway, the Jew and his whole kehillah [i.e., organized Jewry] should fall upon that liberated peasant -- so inexperienced, so incapable of resisting temptation, and who up to this time has been guarded precisely by the commune? Why, of course, instantly this would be his end; his entire property, his whole strength, the very next day would come under the power of the Jew, and there would ensue such an era as can be compared not only with the era of serfdom but even with that of the Tartar yoke.

http://racerealist.com/dost.htm
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http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net...ald-Seiyo.html
 
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That's a great article. He hammers that Jew Seiyo.

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In CofC, I present a theory of how these movements spread their influence throughout society: These movements succeeded because they were able to dominate the prestigious academic and media institutions of the West. Once this domination was established, people were socialized within a culture dominated by these ideas. And people who wanted to establish themselves in the intellectual hierarchy perforce engaged in status competition within the universe of acceptable discourse established by these movements. People who dissented from these ideas were ostracized and vilified; they were unable to gain recognition or, quite often, employment.
The Jew sets the standards and the goy adapt to them.
 
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Little VDare yid Nicholas Stix that KMac linked to:

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogsp...d-ko-over.html

"MacDonald, who knows little about Jews, whom he understands not one bit, considers himself the world’s greatest scholar of all things Jewish."

 
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Little VDare yid Nicholas Stix that KMac linked to:

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogsp...d-ko-over.html

"MacDonald, who knows little about Jews, whom he understands not one bit, considers himself the world’s greatest scholar of all things Jewish."

It helps that McDonald has facts and observable reality on his side, whereas Stix has only sophistry and an air of condescension.
 
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