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Old November 18th, 2012 #61
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Ask him: Why were you hiding behind a tree looking like a fat little cherub? Were you hiding from Winnie the Pooh?

To his credit, Bradley looks more rectangular in his recent YouTube presentation.
 
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Does Hunter Wallace talk about the jews question, or does he glaze over that issue?
 
Old November 18th, 2012 #63
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I was wondering where this debate is going to be hosted - it looks like it will be here:


Radio Free Mississippi

Radio Free Mississippi Debate: Alex Linder versus Brad Griffin, the owner of Occidental Dissent, a Southern Nationalist and a member of the League of the South and the Council of Conservative Citizens.

Date & Time: Monday, Nov. 19th at 2 PM CST

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Meaning of the 2012 election
Prospects for Secession petitions
Conservatism
White Nationalism vs. Southern Nationalism
Right strategy and tactics for Whites in North America to pursue
The Jewish Question
The role of Yankees in racial and cultural decline
The Ron Paul movement
Golden Dawn and what its success/example means for Americans
Greg Johnson
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Old November 18th, 2012 #64
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Does Hunter Wallace talk about the jews question, or does he glaze over that issue?
He's glazey as hell, but shouldn't say too much about that right now, because he's surely grieving over the loss of his fellow foddermen.


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MIDLAND, Texas (AP) — A parade float filled with wounded veterans that was struck by a freight train had crossed onto the railroad tracks after warning signals were going off, investigators said Saturday.

Four veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan were killed and 16 more people were injured when the train crashed into the flatbed truck in West Texas.
It was the second of two floats carrying veterans in Thursday's parade in Midland. The first was exiting the tracks when the warning bells and signals were activated, 20 seconds before the accident, according to the National Transportation Safety Board. The second float didn't enter the tracks until several seconds after the warning system went off, the NTSB said. By that time, the guardrail was lowering.

"Once the crossing becomes active, people should stop," lead investigator Robert Accetta with the NTSB said at a news conference Saturday afternoon.
The timeline was pieced together by combining information from a video camera mounted on the front of the train, another one on a sheriff's car and a data recorder that acts like an airplane's black box, activating when the train blared the horn, NTSB member Mark Rosekind said.

Nine seconds before the crash, the train sounded its horn, a blaring that lasted four seconds, according to Rosekind. The guardrail hit the truck, then the engineer pulled the emergency brake, trying to bring the train that was traveling at 62 mph to a screeching halt.

People on the first float and dozens of others who had come out to greet the veterans shrieked and watched in shock, as some aboard the truck tried to jump off, witnesses said. The veterans' military instincts kicked in as they treated the wounded.

The NTSB has also interviewed the engineer and conductor, and established the train's air brakes were working, Rosekind said. No mechanical problems were found with the cars. A review of the train's maintenance history found no defects, he added. The tracks also had no problems.

Investigators will try to establish on Monday what the engine could have seen as it approached the truck, Rosekind said.

Part of the investigation includes whether the parade group, Show of Support/Hunt for Heroes, had the proper permit. The parade has been an annual event in Midland for nine years.

"It has a long history, and I don't know what the original arrangements were," City Manager Courtney Sharp said. "But for the most part we require permits."

Railroads are a vital part of Midland, a town that sits in the heart of Texas' oil rich Permian basin. It's listed as having nearly 114,000 residents, but residents and officials believe the population has risen significantly with the growth of the oil industry.

Three or four railroad tracks lie within city limits, and the site of the accident is just about 10 minutes from downtown, said Midland spokesman Ryan Stout.

That's considered when the city grants permits for parades and other events, Sharp said.

"We take all steps into consideration when we permit," he said. "I hate to go down that track until all of the investigation is over, but yes we do take that stuff into account."

About 300 people attended a vigil Saturday evening in downtown Midland. They lit white candles and prayed for the victims' families and the community as a whole. The town square was lined with American flags.

Ministers prayed for residents in the town to have strength in wake of the tragedy.

"I promise you the next few days will be tough but when we get to the other side, it will be better," Mayor Wes Perry told the crowd.

"The community is grieving. We are grieving and in pain," Sharp said.
Midland resident Gery Cain said he attended the vigil to "participate in the healing that this will bring to the community."

The veterans were on their way to a banquet in their honor and were being cheered by a flag-waving crowd. It was supposed to be the start of a three-day weekend of banquets, deer hunting and shopping in appreciation of the veterans' sacrifice.

Killed were Marine Chief Warrant Officer 3 Gary Stouffer, 37; Army Sgt. Maj. Lawrence Boivin, 47; Army Sgt. Joshua Michael, 34; and Army Sgt. Maj. William Lubbers, 43.

Two of the injured remained in a Midland hospital Saturday night, one in critical condition and another in stable condition. None of the injuries are life-threatening, said hospital spokeswoman Marcy Madrid.

A third person was moved to another hospital, Midland city officials said late Saturday, but they did not know the hospital name or the person's condition. A fourth person, who was transferred to a Lubbock hospital shortly after the accident, had been in serious condition but it was unclear Saturday night if that remained the case.

Union Pacific spokeswoman Raquel Espinoza said the speed limit in that area was raised from 40 mph to 70 mph in 2006.

http://news.yahoo.com/officials-vets...001937014.html
 
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To his credit, Bradley looks more rectangular in his recent YouTube presentation.
Yes, we gotta give him credit for that. I read that he jogs a lot to keep off the weight.

Smart young fellow too, no doubt. If he just had more guts, he'd organize and lead some sort of activist group
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Where is Jimmy Marr?
 
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Does Hunter Wallace talk about the jews question, or does he glaze over that issue?
Whenever the mood strikes.

If I come across something interesting about the Jews (for example, when I was researching the history of slavery in the Caribbean), I will share it without any inhibitions.
 
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Yes, we gotta give him credit for that. I read that he jogs a lot to keep off the weight.
I jog six days a week and lift weights about three or four days a week. I've lost 70 pounds since 2010. Right now it is just a matter of toning up after ridding myself of all that weight.
 
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I jog six days a week and lift weights about three or four days a week. I've lost 70 pounds since 2010. Right now it is just a matter of toning up after ridding myself of all that weight.
It's noted that you declined to comment on my suggestion that you start up an activist group.

Another of your flaws is that you've got jewish friends and brag about it. Showing, you jes ain't thar (jew-wise) yet. Have you no compassion for the hundreds of millions of your race murdered by GD kikes during the 20th century, alone ?? What's the matter with you ??

The Germans are blamed, collectively. Southern whites are blamed, collectively. And the entire white race is blamed, collectively. So why do you not blame the GD kikes, collectively ??
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Whenever the mood strikes.

If I come across something interesting about the Jews (for example, when I was researching the history of slavery in the Caribbean), I will share it without any inhibitions.
Good deal. I would appreciate hearing you discuss/debate the jewish role in slavery, but I was talking about THE "jewish question".
You make it sound peripheral when its much closer to the root problem.

Are you familiar with jewish bolshevism, jewish communism, cultural marxism, judaism as a group evolutionary strategy, and the jewish stranglehold on American banking media and gov't aka JOG?
 
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The parts of the country which are the least religious and the least conservative - places like the San Francisco Bay Area, where Greg Johnson lives - are also the parts of the country which are the strongholds of the Democratic Party and which are the least sympathetic to White Nationalism.
But you also observe it's lust of innovation, intellectual ferment driving the north. These can easily ramify in ways that are not necessarily White-negative and may be white positive - Greg Johnson and his work being a good example.

Whereas your hidebound, bible-girt regions simply aren't mentally equipped to do battle with their intellectual superiors, and will follow their bible into the grave - precisely as they have in South Africa. And remember that, if anything, the South Africans had more and better preparation for a full-fledged understanding from day one of Nigger Reality than even the slave-owning South did, yet they still failed to negotiate a successful future.

The point is so strong I supply it before the debate because there simply is no counter.

Golden Dawn has already been denounced by the wart-faced mandrill heading up the Orthodox church in Greece.

Fans of the jebus cult mistake that the church's universalism and opposition to nationalism has occasionally been latent or ineffectual at spots through history as some sign there's a fundamental compatibility with a racially based society. There is not, and all history shows it. The church is a non-white institution that sucks up to the jews and agrees a panmixian one-world is the ideal solution to social problem, whether the christian you ask is the Pope or Pat Robertson...or whoever cheerleads at the Mormon meetings Romney goes to.
 
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It's noted that you declined to comment on my suggestion that you start up an activist group.
I'm already a member of two activist groups: the League of the South and the Council of Conservative Citizens.

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Another of your flaws is that you've got jewish friends and brag about it. Showing, you jes ain't thar (jew-wise) yet. Have you no compassion for the hundreds of millions of your race murdered by GD kikes during the 20th century, alone ?? What's the matter with you ??
I judge people as groups and as individuals.

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The Germans are blamed, collectively. Southern whites are blamed, collectively. And the entire white race is blamed, collectively. So why do you not blame the GD kikes, collectively ??
I don't believe that Jews are 100% to blame for our situation. I believe there are many factors involved and that reducing it to the Jewish Question is simply an oversimplification of a complex process.

Do Jews share a lot of the blame? Of course.
 
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Oh, I agree.

My position is that attacking Christianity and conservatism in the Deep South is a non-starter because, demographically speaking, this is the most Christian and conservative area in the United States.
Anyone who can supply social conservatism - basically that just means sexual normality in everyday terms - will be followed by christians, whether he is overtly christian, neutral or opposed to it. I feel pretty safe saying that. It probably goes in reverse.

One reason I depise the cult is its inability as the 90% majority to keep jews from spreading their dreck-kultur, with its continual spurs to promiscuity, and general cheapness of character, out to the watching world 24 hours a day. If some Franco arose who could put them in their place, I'd support him. But they can't produce these men. They are too weak. As a 90% majority! An anti-christian who could clean up society would have most of these 'christians' (few of which even understand their own cult, let along "believe" anything) would follow him. On a practical level, anyone against general jewish smut-kultur is on the same side. But these appeals must run under racial banners, not christian banners. We don't want the weakness, the ugliness, of the cult as our standard - that's for those who IDENTIFY as losers - ie, Southerners. I do not say that lightly either, that they identify as losers. It's part of their heritage, to which they are blindly and stupidly loyal. Losing is the Southern way. Winning would require changes in thinking and acting, and Southerners don't do that.

The point about the South is:

1) it's comparatively few people
2) they don't ever change
3) they are social conservatives who will support anyone who supports social conservatives

In political terms, the Southerners are people who can be taken for granted. WN can do this as easily as the Republicans can. There is literally no other party who will stand up for their cause but racialists. Theoretically Southern nationalists could, but they don't have anybody except the raceless LOS and CCC, both of which admit jews and love 'em, making them contemptible ZOG-cured bacon like every other political outlet.

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What's more, White racial consciousness is positively correlated with Christianity and conservatism, and negatively correlated with atheism and liberalism:

59% and 56% of the population of Mississippi and Alabama is "very religious."

23% and 23% of the population of Vermont and New Hampshire is "very religious."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/153479/mi...ous-state.aspx

53.4% and 49.8% of the population of Mississippi and Alabama is "conservative." 30.3% of Massachusetts and 26.4% of the population of Oregon and Washington is "liberal."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152459/mi...e-liberal.aspx

Note: If your strategy has any merit, then New England and the Northwest should be the most fertile ground for a White Nationalist movement, particularly Vermont which is one of the least religious and least conservative states in America. Does anyone know any racialists from Vermont?
I know several WN from NE. You may be right about generalities, but you're underestimating the most important things

- much greater drive, intellectual ability and lust for the new in the North
- many more men in the north

Just look around. Is WN more vibrant or Southern Nationalism? The answer is obvious. Southern Nationalism is...you...and...who? No one. Some PC ass-clowns, as you yourself know. And you're not even SN so much as just trying to make your name and find your own niche, which is understandable.

It's 100x likelier a solution that actually works comes out of an SF queer like Greg Johnson than a bible believer in Alabama. I consider that self-evident. That does not mean I endorse Johnson's approach, because he is wrong, for reasons we will go into. But he's at least attracting brains on the level where we can fight with the jew and actually have a chance of winning. The South doesn't contain or produce that kind of mind. It does produce some, but they almost inevitably are illiberals in love with the System and its ideology. The South produces very few intellectuals who remain loyal, and so it outside the South we must look.

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You make it sound peripheral when its much closer to the root problem.
I see it as being a big piece of the puzzle.

It is one piece of the puzzle. In his better moments, even Alex acknowledges this. He acknowledges that lots of White people are dependent on the government and as a consequence of that dependence will vote for the collective racial dispossession of their descendants in order to collect their Medicare or Social Security check.
 
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Here's a political cartoon from Louisiana in the late 1860s that depicts what our Yankee friends were doing here about twenty to thirty years BEFORE the Jews began to arrive en masse in the United States:

Which deserves more blame? Yankees or a christian subset? I say the latter. Your average Yankee didn't want Southerners tortured by niggers, only your do-gooding Puritan moralist types.
 
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But you also observe it's lust of innovation, intellectual ferment driving the north. These can easily ramify in ways that are not necessarily White-negative and may be white positive - Greg Johnson and his work being a good example.

Whereas your hidebound, bible-girt regions simply aren't mentally equipped to do battle with their intellectual superiors, and will follow their bible into the grave - precisely as they have in South Africa. And remember that, if anything, the South Africans had more and better preparation for a full-fledged understanding from day one of Nigger Reality than even the slave-owning South did, yet they still failed to negotiate a successful future.

The point is so strong I supply it before the debate because there simply is no counter.

Golden Dawn has already been denounced by the wart-faced mandrill heading up the Orthodox church in Greece.

Fans of the jebus cult mistake that the church's universalism and opposition to nationalism has occasionally been latent or ineffectual at spots through history as some sign there's a fundamental compatibility with a racially based society. There is not, and all history shows it. The church is a non-white institution that sucks up to the jews and agrees a panmixian one-world is the ideal solution to social problem, whether the christian you ask is the Pope or Pat Robertson...or whoever cheerleads at the Mormon meetings Romney goes to.
I don't like how Jethro assumes that which is unproven. For instance, can he prove that the South wouldn't have voted just as heavily Republican if the GOP presidential candidate had been Condoleezza Rice? Why assume they were all voting for Romney because he's White?
 
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Why didn't the scandal of Ron Paul's "racist newsletters" help him to win White Southern votes? If the South is so racially minded they would have seized the opportunity to vote for Paul after seeing the media accuse him of being a racist. But we know for a fact that this didn't happen. Paul was slaughtered in the South Carolina Primary.
 
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But you also observe it's lust of innovation, intellectual ferment driving the north. These can easily ramify in ways that are not necessarily White-negative and may be white positive - Greg Johnson and his work being a good example.
For the past 180 years, the intellectual ferment of the North has been racially destructive and culturally injurious toward the South. That's why Dixie would be infinitely better off as an independent nation.

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Whereas your hidebound, bible-girt regions simply aren't mentally equipped to do battle with their intellectual superiors, and will follow their bible into the grave - precisely as they have in South Africa. And remember that, if anything, the South Africans had more and better preparation for a full-fledged understanding from day one of Nigger Reality than even the slave-owning South did, yet they still failed to negotiate a successful future.
These hidebound, bible-girt regions in the Deep South which aren't mentally equipped to do battle with their intellectual superiors have consistently resisted every effort by the progressive, "intellectual," atheist Northeast to transform America into a guilt ridden Third World country.

What are the least religious states in America? Vermont, Maine, and New Hampshire. Is White Nationalism thriving in that area? More White people in Vermont voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 than anywhere else in the country.

It's actually a good thing that White Southerners are reading the Bible instead of the New York Times. Every single Jew in the U.S. Senate comes from the Northeast, the Midwest, or the West. The fact that Southerners are Christians means they are far less willing to vote for Jews than Yankees.

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The point is so strong I supply it before the debate because there simply is no counter.
I'm more than willing to grant that Harvard University, MSNBC, and the New York Times are taken more seriously in the Northeast than the South. That's one reason the South is so much more resistant to America's Northeastern driven cultural decline.

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Golden Dawn has already been denounced by the wart-faced mandrill heading up the Orthodox church in Greece.
Golden Dawn is a Greek ethnonationalist party. They are thriving in the context of an economic collapse. That's encouraging news for Southern ethnonationalists. I can't wait to see if Texas is willing to go along with a federal bailout by Obama of, say, California or Illinois or New York.

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Fans of the jebus cult mistake that the church's universalism and opposition to nationalism has occasionally been latent or ineffectual at spots through history as some sign there's a fundamental compatibility with a racially based society. There is not, and all history shows it.
I would say that history actually shows that the American South was the longest living and most successful race based society in the history of the world.

I would follow up by saying that the Northeast is not a racially based society. It was shedding itself of its racial identity as early as 1780 when Pennsylvania repealed its anti-miscegenation law before the American Revolution was even won.

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The church is a non-white institution that sucks up to the jews and agrees a panmixian one-world is the ideal solution to social problem, whether the christian you ask is the Pope or Pat Robertson...or whoever cheerleads at the Mormon meetings Romney goes to.
The Southern Baptist Convention was THE LAST mainstream institution in the United States to jump on board the anti-White bandwagon. The Southern Baptists didn't discover that "racism" was a sin until the early 1990s when I was still in high school.

OTOH, the secular Northeastern Ivy League universities like Columbia University in New York were leading the assault on White America as far back as the 1920s and 1930s.
 
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What does the demographic shift in North America, which everyone now acknowledges will only continue to accelerate, mean for whites in the next 25 years?

Every other question is moot, really.

I look forward to listening to the debate. Thanks to both men for taking the time and making it available.
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