SF ''Russians''

[BRMC]

Originally Posted by Dominus

Do you realize that without Russia's support Novorussia would not last more than 48 hours? Sadly many are very naive and don't understand that an open Russian offense would escalate into a WW3 because then the Zio-NATO would take Ukropia's side.
This is now a stalemate position. Novorussia can't progress without open Russian offensive and Ukropia can't progress anyway. However, time works against Ukropia and for the Russia because Ukropia is already on the edge of economic collapse and it's matter of 3-5 years when it will collapse completely. When that happens, there will be Maidan II but with reversed roles.
Zog-West will not give them any material support. Trump already cut out 70% of support for Ukrops. Their economic collapse is inevitable.

No , the Kremlin oligarchs are close with Kiev one's , they play both sides for fools , if Moscow wanted to end conflict , they would have dealt with the junta fascists long time ago , instead of just sit in one place and remain in same position with no progress.

In addition death of top commanders there was done by the clowns from the authorities in DPR and LPR.

Also is not that yellow clown Trump close with Jews , married into them , the same one dancing with Saudi clowns?

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by BRMC

No , the Kremlin oligarchs are close with Kiev one's , they play both sides for fools , if Moscow wanted to end conflict , they would have dealt with the junta fascists long time ago , instead of just sit in one place and remain in same position with no progress.

In addition death of top commanders there was done by the clowns from the authorities in DPR and LPR.

Also is not that yellow clown Trump close with Jews , married into them , the same one dancing with Saudi clowns?

First of all, the so called Oligarchs are controlling nothing in Kremlin. This is a clean Ukropian propaganda.
Second, I already explained why Russia can't go into open offense.

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With your communist flag and now this Ukropian "oligarch-propaganda" it does not even look like naivety or ignorance but a trolling.

[BRMC]

Originally Posted by Dominus

First of all, the so called Oligarchs are controlling nothing in Kremlin. This is a clean Ukropian propaganda.
Second, I already explained why Russia can't go into open offense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQ2ddv4qQU
With your communist flag and now this Ukropian "oligarch-propaganda" it does not even look like naivety or ignorance but a trolling.

This is one of the flags used by seperatists there symbolizing patriotism , since sovietism and czarism is part of Russian history.

Russian commanders are being killed by there by traitors inside the authorities in both republics , if those are not set up by Kremlin , either those ones in Kiev have infiltrated the government in People's republic or what???? Who is killing the leaders? ( Motorola , Givi , Bolotov ,Tsypkalov , etc.... ) , there is a rabbit hole somewhere.

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by BRMC

This is one of the flags used by seperatists there symbolizing patriotism , since sovietism and czarism is part of Russian history.

Russian commanders are being killed by there by traitors inside the authorities in both republics , if those are not set up by Kremlin , either those ones in Kiev have infiltrated the government in People's republic or what???? Who is killing the leaders?

That flag is a judeo-communist flag, it is responsible for killing 50 million Russians and many million other whites. That flag and that ideology is the enemy of the white race and of our cause.

CIA is killing those commanders through Ukrop saboteurs. They are trying the same on Crimea but with less success.

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There is no rabbit-hole. It's simply a fact that Crimea is under full control of Russia with a very stabilized situation and Novorussia is a very destabilized proxy-war territory where it is much harder to neutralize every single saboteur.

[roman1 TITAN]

Originally Posted by Dominus

First of all, the so called Oligarchs are controlling nothing in Kremlin.

Then Andrey Saveliev and Great Russia party is wrong? Read the Saveliev article about Putin and oligarchks: http://savelev.ru/article/show/?id=322&t=1

Президент определился со своим будущим.

Все действия государственной власти направлены на обеспечение благополучия и успеха только одному клану - тому, в который входит президент страны, бросивший ее на произвол судьбы и занявшийся обустройством собственной судьбы.
Судьбоносным для Путина становится "Газпром" - корпорация, давно удалившаяся от национальных интересов России и использующая природные ресурсы страны исключительно в целях частной наживы. Политика подчинена экономике, народ - олигархии. Олигархия уступает Путину "Газпром" в обмен на защиту от народа.
"Газпром" стал транснациональной корпорацией, как только его акции были с феноменальной быстротой "либерализованы". Команда Путина, протащившая это решение через подконтрольную Думу, получила немалые деньги за счет инсайдерской информации. Неплохой старт для бизнес проекта Путина.
Сразу же вслед за "либерализацией" Путин распорядился затеять скандалы со всеми потребителями газпромовского (уже не российского) газа на постсоветском пространстве. Государственные институты стали в руках президента инструментом обеспечение его бизнеса и средством давления на партнеров - особенно на тех, кто обеспечивает транзит газа в Европу. Именно бизнес Путина, а не интересы России, подвигли госвласть в условиях украинских выборов вступить в жесткий конфликт с теми, кто до сих пор "пилил" теневую прибыль от убыточного транзита. Затем пошла волна повышения цен на газ. Особенно жестко ударил Путин по Белоруссии - в подарок к 10-летию подписания договора о Союзном государстве. Эта жесткость обусловлена одним: Белоруссия стала разменной картой при решении задачи вступления России в ВТО. Путин договорился с Бушем о снятии множества препятствий - в обмен на сдачу Белоруссии и Приднестровья. "Газпром" в данном случае получит двоякую прибыль - выход на мировые рынки (в том числе и "непрофильными активами") и шантаж беднейших потребителей постсоветского пространства.
Невероятная интенсивность формирования газовой доминанты в деятельности Путина отмечена также договором с Китаем (снова за счет государства и налогоплательщика решено множество проблем частной кампании) и объявлением "новой политики" - приоритетном развитии сырьевого компонента российской экономики.
Международное признание своего бизнеса Путин обеспечивает крайне заинтересованным вниманием со стороны тех, кто подхватил его идею об "энергетической безопасности" - то есть, потребителями российских топливных ресурсов. Разумеется, их безопасность (то есть, бесперебойное потребление) ставится Путиным выше любых соображений национальной безопасности России.
Концепция бизнес-проекта Путина выражена в лозунге превращения России в "энергетическую сверхдержаву". Это значит образование альянса между силовыми институтами государства и топливными олигархами. Управляющим этим альянсом и становится Президент России, угодный как изменившим своей Родине "силовикам", так и олигархам, давно предпочитающим жить за границей, управляя оттуда нестабильной Россией.

Мы имеем дело со становлением тоталитарного режима "общечеловеков" - включенной в "мировую цивилизацию" олигархией и властью, нанятой для ее защиты. Беззаконное подавление оппозиции и присвоение национального достояния при Путина становятся главным признаком политического режима.

[BRMC]

Okay thanks Dominus , but please understand that many people regardless of ideology support our noble struggle in Novorossya , from left to right ( various NS in West , monarchists in Russia and even the party of NBP where I belong ).

I welcome anyone who will put an end to those morons in Kiev. It all should be Russia just like Balkan should be mostly Serbian.Idiots inventing some fake nations and using them as folder canon for their schemes.

Long live Russia-Serbia brotherhood!

[Crowe]

Originally Posted by Serbian

Jack Boot was a huge supporter of Poison too. He always took Poison's side, and like him would ban pro Russians for petty nonsense while the pro Maidan people were shielded from even the slightest criticism

We used to refer to him as zio-boot even before this shitstorm with Poison unfolded. He's made pro-Zionist stances in the past. Banned a bunch of members for suggesting 9/11 was an inside job. So him and Poison are very much 2 peas from the same pod.

[BRMC]

Originally Posted by Crowe

We used to refer to him as zio-boot even before this shitstorm with Poison unfolded. He's made pro-Zionist stances in the past. Banned a bunch of members for suggesting 9/11 was an inside job. So him and Poison are very much 2 peas from the same pod.

Why does not David Duke do anything , he is friends to us Russians but tolerates those rats on SF Russia , or this bot guy is the one who is chief there????

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by BRMC

Okay thanks Dominus , but please understand that many people regardless of ideology support our noble struggle in Novorossya , from left to right ( various NS in West , monarchists in Russia and even the party of NBP where I belong ).

I welcome anyone who will put an end to those morons in Kiev. It all should be Russia just like Balkan should be mostly Serbian.Idiots inventing some fake nations and using them as folder canon for their schemes.

Long live Russia-Serbia brotherhood!

I don't support Ukropia because it's an artifical nation without history and culture. I support a white nationalistic Russia without non-white elements in it and without judeo-communists.
Nasbol/Nascom is an abomination, an absurdity and a retarded ideology. It's like a child of a nigger and a white woman. If you consider yourself as a bolshevik or "national"-bolshevik, whatever, then you can not be anything else but an enemy.
If you want to join our lines, drop that piece of shit Jewish ideology and start to act like a real nationalist who fights for his nation and race!

Enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.....

[BRMC]

Originally Posted by Dominus

I don't support Ukropia because it's an artifical nation without history and culture. I support a white nationalistic Russia without non-white elements in it and without judeo-communists.
Nasbol/Nascom is an abomination, an absurdity and a retarded ideology. It's like a child of a nigger and a white woman. If you consider yourself as a bolshevik or "national"-bolshevik, whatever, then you can not be anything else but an enemy.
If you want to join our lines, drop that piece of shit Jewish ideology and start to act like a real nationalist who fights for his nation and race!

Enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.....

Yes but problem with Russian people is that it never had any serious national ideology , in terms of race Czarist Russia was almost same as USSR , anyone could join it.

If Russians want something to achieve , then we need to strive for something new.

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by BRMC

Yes but problem with Russian people is that it never had any serious national ideology , in terms of race Czarist Russia was almost same as USSR , anyone could join it.

If Russians want something to achieve , then we need to strive for something new.

If you want something new, then first and foremost get rid of the Jewish bolshevism. If white race matters to you, than you can not support bolshevism/marxism/communism by any means.
White nationalism is something you should strive for.

[BRMC]

Originally Posted by Dominus

If you want something new, then first and foremost get rid of the Jewish bolshevism. If white race matters to you, than you can not support bolshevism/marxism/communism by any means.

Okay but do keep in mind that whatever you may think of NBP , they did come to help Serbians in last war , Russians from all ideological backgrounds.

For example some leaders of today who are accused of being bad are communists such as Kim and so was Fidel Castro because they stood against zionist USA.

Unity through race before anything though.

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by BRMC

Okay but do keep in mind that whatever you may think of NBP , they did come to help Serbians in last war , Russians from all ideological backgrounds.

For example some leaders of today who are accused of being bad are communists such as Kim and so was Fidel Castro because they stood against zionist USA.

Unity through race before anything though.

Serbs also came to help in Novorussia but that has nothing to do with ideology. Just like I said, enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.

[BRMC]

Originally Posted by roman1 TITAN

Then Andrey Saveliev and Great Russia party is wrong? Read the Saveliev article about Putin and oligarchks: http://savelev.ru/article/show/?id=322&t=1

You once said that the world government , even in Russia is controlled entirely by Jews , have any more reliable articles ?

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by roman1 TITAN

Then Andrey Saveliev and Great Russia party is wrong? Read the Saveliev article about Putin and oligarchks: http://savelev.ru/article/show/?id=322&t=1

And what does this prove exactly?
This Saveliev is criticizing Putin that he has full control over Gazprom, over gas and other natural resources. Oh and he is also criticizing Putin that he want to create from Russia an "energetics-superpower". How is that bad? Other than that he is just speculating without any single evidence.
-Russian natural resources are the guarantee that Russia can defend the attack of Jews through their Zio-Dollar and these natural resources has to be in Putin's full control. Also through Gasprom he will soon stop the gas delivery through Ukropia and with this Ukropia will collapse very quickly.

Now let's see the facts:
-Putin has full control over Russian army and over Russian secret service FSB.
-Putin has full control of the Russian nuclear arsenal which is second to none, even USA has less nukes than Russia. http://www.ploughshares.org/world-nu...ockpile-report
-Putin has full control over Russian resources.
-With all that above he controls basically everything in Russia.

One has to be very naive or very ignorant to believe that a man with as much power as Putin can be bought or blackmailed by any means.
Yes, there are oligarchs in Russia but they work for Putin and not the other way around.
Otherwise they would finish like these kikes:

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BTW that Saveliev looks like Nemtsov 2.0 or maybe 3.0 because Navalny is already 2.0

Also these "oh so powerful" oligarchs have no real power simply because 10 richest oligarchs in Russia altogether have 112 billion dollars. If you compare that to one Rothschild who has 500 trillion dollars, that 112 billion is pocket money. And if you compare that to Russian GDP which is 1560 trillion dollars a year, that is nothing. They control nothing.

[roman1 TITAN]

Originally Posted by Dominus

BTW that Saveliev looks like Nemtsov 2.0 or maybe 3.0 because Navalny is already 2.0

Also these "oh so powerful" oligarchs have no real power simply because 10 richest oligarchs in Russia altogether have 112 billion dollars. If you compare that to one Rothschild who has 500 trillion dollars, that 112 billion is pocket money. And if you compare that to Russian GDP which is 1560 trillion dollars a year, that is nothing. They control nothing.

Saveliev looks like old Russian aristocracy.

Total capitals of all Rothshield families is barely exceeds $3,2 trillion.

Official capital of Russian oligarchs is $500 billion

Russian GDP is $1.560 trillion (2017) (nominal). You exaggerated it in 1000 times.

[Serbian]

Originally Posted by Poison

I am not interested in starting to discuss some conspiracies with you.

Britannic Nationalist

You consider principle and integral WN viewpoints as 'conspiracies' - that's all anyone really needs to take from our boringly long discussion, Poison.

White genocide = conspiracy BS.

Jewish subversion to undermine Western civilisation = conspiracy BS.



Your complete refusal to elaborate on this issue or address it in any meaningful way makes discussion on Russia pretty much useless. We have no common benchmark by which to judge Putin as we see the world in very different ways. I see the world through the lens of White Nationalism. You see the world through the lens of Putin loathing with some racialism thrown in.

Putin is all you're interested in. Far be it from me to criticise SF admin and their choices but I'm at a loss at what about you persuaded them to make you a moderator. Especially in light of the many criticisms I've seen from other members regarding your conduct. Is it your lack of Jewish-awareness that makes you a worthy candidate? Or your emphasis that white genocide doesn't exist and unguided globalisation processes are the ultimate cause? Or is your self-confessed support for NATO and Judeo-American hegemony?


I guess we'll never know the answer to these mysteries. What I do know is I'll refrain from repeating myself for the hundredth time going over these petty details which do not address the initial point you took issue with in this thread. I only commit myself to these types of long debates providing some useful, worthwhile information is injected into the discussion to keep it alive. Suffice to say, this has been wanting for some time in this thread. Tangents and endless waffle, much of which has to be cropped for the sake of manageable discussion, are your game. Along with copy and pasting factoids, quotes and links from your 'anti-Putin' folder on your PC, a veritable cyber treasure trove I'm sure CNN would love to get their paws on.

Now, where's that Putin doll to thrust some more pins into?

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t12...2#post14095590

[Ray Allan]

Britannic Nationalist would be great to have on VNNF.

[BRMC]

The so called world-government is the American and Jewish oligarchs but I believe Putin has a grip on those in Russia from doing something against Russian interest.

[BRMC]

Also those junta supporters make fun of American girl that was killed by Jews in Israel --- > https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1209207-4/

Their sadism knows no bounds , look at the comments by sickos.