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Old October 28th, 2011 #81
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I am also worried about the well being of Al Gore’s “peak oil” gang… what they going to do now?
They could ban fracking.
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France to ban fracking of fossil fuels

French lawmakers have voted to ban a controversial technique used to extract shale gas and oil that opponents say contaminates the environment.

If the vote by the lower house of parliament passes the Senate next month, France will be the first country to ban hydraulic fracturing, also known as fracking. The process injects water, chemicals and sand into rock formations to break them open and extract previously unattainable fossil fuel deposits.



The overwhelming vote by the National Assembly follows months of protest across France against a technique that environmentalists say threatens to pollute the water table. Many were outraged at the beginning of the year when it was discovered that several exploration permits had been granted without public consultation. The issue has become highly political as the government prepares for a difficult presidential campaign next year.

Far from claiming victory, environmentalists and opposition Socialists accused the government of yielding to industry lobbying, because last-minute amendments to the draft law will allow scientific research to be conducted on shale gas and oil and its environmental impact, albeit under the control of state entities. The government will deliver an annual report to parliament on the conditions of this research, the first due by the end of the year.

France relies on nuclear power for most of its electricity, but the Fukushima disaster has encouraged interest in other energy sources. The government has found itself caught between the possibility of exploiting new energy sources and addressing public concern over the environmental consequences. A report by the industry ministry recommended that test wells be drilled as it would be “damaging for the economy and for jobs for our country to forbid itself a deeper evaluation of this potential wealth”. Industry sources said they were relieved that the law had not revoked the permits already granted.

A study published this week by scientists at Duke University in North Carolina found no sign that fracking chemicals were polluting the water supply, but there was evidence that gas was leaking from shale wells into drinking water, creating an explosion risk.

A report by the European Centre for Energy and Resource Security last week found that Europe could cover its energy needs for the next 60 years if it was able to develop its unconventional gas resources.

Nonetheless the French oil companies association Union Francaise des Industries Petrolieres said it “strongly regrets” the ban.

Assuming the bill is not significantly changed when it is debated in the upper house next month, companies will have to deliver a report on the techniques they plan to use to explore for fossil fuels. If these techniques include hydraulic fracking, their permits will be cancelled. If they fail to report the use of the banned technology and are found to be using it, executives could face a €75,000 ($107,000) fine and prison sentences.
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Old October 28th, 2011 #82
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Now hiring: North Dakota oil boom creates thousands of jobs

http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_new...ors_picks=true
 
Old November 2nd, 2011 #83
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I was thinking of flying up there and staying for a week, seeing what chances I have to find a job up there, what companies are hiring, what requirements and qualifications one needs.
I'm from down in Florida and without a job right now, so basically have nothing going on down there.
With the coming of winter, are the oil rigs closing mostly down and people waiting through the winter season to continue to work in spring or do the oil rigs work steadily through winter season?
For the truck driving job, do they look for any drivers with the appropiate license or experienced drivers?
I figured that some of you folks on vnn forum and posting on this thread may have gone up there and may be working already at one of the oil rigs.
I was thinking, if I went up there and found a job, to return back to FL and then head up there in a RV and just live in that, taking all my belongings with me and just leave FL behind.
Ayways, if anyone is up there already, please private message me with any information about the names of the Oil companies hiring, what towns they are in and anything else that is important, if you don't mind.
Appreciate any info
 
Old November 7th, 2011 #84
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^ X2
We're (a friend & I) are considering taking a train out over winter holiday. Spending a few days out there, camping kit in tow.
I have a travel trailer & we both own semi-built 4x4's - so accomidations & snow aren't a problem. We're both currently employed (we both run CNC machines) - but if we could make some serious cash & get to work 60+ hours a week - win !
We'd both drop our current gigs & come back with my trailer & our rigs if we found a gig.
I read things slowed down in the winter, would it be better to come in the spring ?
Thanks!
 
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I was thinking of flying up there and staying for a week, seeing what chances I have to find a job up there, what companies are hiring, what requirements and qualifications one needs.
I'm from down in Florida and without a job right now, so basically have nothing going on down there.
With the coming of winter, are the oil rigs closing mostly down and people waiting through the winter season to continue to work in spring or do the oil rigs work steadily through winter season?
For the truck driving job, do they look for any drivers with the appropiate license or experienced drivers?
I figured that some of you folks on vnn forum and posting on this thread may have gone up there and may be working already at one of the oil rigs.
I was thinking, if I went up there and found a job, to return back to FL and then head up there in a RV and just live in that, taking all my belongings with me and just leave FL behind.
Ayways, if anyone is up there already, please private message me with any information about the names of the Oil companies hiring, what towns they are in and anything else that is important, if you don't mind.
Appreciate any info
The rigs DO NOT stop or slow down in winter. If anything, your odds of getting a job will go up as it gets colder, due to some heading south when the weather turns.

Here is another really good source of information for all things oilfield: http://www.city-data.com/forum/north-dakota/
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Old November 10th, 2011 #86
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We're thinking we are going to head out on the 26th of December & stay till the 31st. It's a full days ride each way, so that'll give us 3 days to make something happen.
If anyone has any contacts, leads, in's or direction, it would be much appreciated.
I'm 30, he's 28, we are both fit former Marines.
 
Old November 11th, 2011 #87
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Really great video explaining how all of this is done. (drilling and fracking)

http://www.northernoil.com/drilling.php
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The place where my husband works goes through people so fast that he now has seniority after only 5 months. So you have a very good chance of finding work.

He will be home in an hour on the train, he was gone for 20 days and now he gets 10 days off.
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Oil boom raises rents in ND, pushes seniors out

By JAMES MacPHERSON Associated Press
Posted: 11/14/2011 12:46:13 PM MST

WILLISTON, N.D.—After living all of her 82 years in the same community, Lois Sinness left her hometown this month, crying and towing a U-Haul packed with her every possession. She didn't want to go, but the rent on her $700-a-month apartment was going up almost threefold because of heightened demand for housing generated by North Dakota's oil bonanza. Other seniors in her complex and across the western part of the state are in the same predicament. "Our rents were raised, and we did not have a choice," Sinness said. "We're all on fixed incomes, living mostly on Social Security, so it's been a terrible shock."

It's an irony of the area's economic success: The same booming development that made North Dakota virtually immune to the Great Recession has forced many longtime residents to abandon their homes, including seniors who carved towns like Williston out of the unforgiving prairie long before oil money arrived.
In addition to raising the rent, Sinness' landlords were going to require even long-term tenants to pay a $2,000 deposit. She fled for a cheaper apartment in Bismarck, beyond the oil patch, where her daughter also lives. Her new home is 230 miles away.

Thanks to new drilling techniques that make it possible to tap once-unreachable caches of crude, a region that used to have plenty of elbow room is now swarming with armies of workers. Nodding pumps dot the wide, mostly barren landscape. But because it has limited housing, the area is ill-prepared to handle the influx of people. The result is that some rents have risen to the level of some of the nation's largest cities, with modest two-bedroom apartments commonly going for as much as $2,000.

The skyrocketing cost of living is all the talk at the senior center in downtown Williston. "Grandma can't go to work in the oil fields and make a 150 grand a year," said A.J. Mock, director of the Williston Council for the Aging. Many of the seniors who are moving out "have lived here their entire lives and wanted to live here until they die."

Ellavon Weber, 88, is getting elbowed out of the state entirely. She's reluctantly moving to Arizona, where two of her three children live, leaving behind friends, her church and her weekly aerobics classes, as well as pinochle games and quilting bees. She says she will even miss the brutal winters. "I thought I'd be in North Dakota the rest of my life, but evidently, that's not the case," Weber said.

Drilling operations have transformed the area, which now resembles an industrial park. Previously uncongested highways and city streets are clogged with 18-wheelers.

Some workers live in tents, cars and campers. Hotels are booked for months. Just a handful of homes were listed for sale in October in Williston, including a humble mobile home priced at $149,500. Two mobile home parks that were abandoned after the last oil bust are now full.

In most of the surrounding towns, temporary housing camps have sprung up. Because many of them are little more than dormitories made out of shipping containers, some communities have banned them for sanitary and safety reasons.

Flooding that damaged thousands of homes in nearby Minot last summer has exacerbated the housing shortage. Developers have been slow to build more apartments, largely because they got stung by the region's last oil boom when it went bust in the 1980s. About 1,000 new housing units are planned for this year, but no one expects them to make a real dent in demand.

Local officials are "turning over every rock to see if we can find a solution," Mayor Ward Koeser said. But "nothing has been found yet." He blamed the issue on supply and demand, and in some cases, greed and gouging.
North Dakota law forbids capping rental rates. And dozens of low-income housing units built decades ago are now being used to house oil workers at higher prices.

Jolene Kline, director of the state's Housing Finance Agency, said landlords who have pulled out of the low-income program have fulfilled legal requirements to provide the housing for 15 or 30 years. But, she added, that doesn't make it right. "You can't put people in these situations, and in the worst cases, make them homeless because they can't afford shelter anymore," Kline said.

Eighty-year-old Mayo Miller hand-delivered her rent check last month just so she could give her landlord a hug and thank her for not raising the rent.
Miller's rent has jumped just $200 in 20 years, to $550. She said that increase has been fair, especially since her apartment could easily fetch $3,000 a month from a homeless-but-moneyed oil worker.

Nancy Hoffelt's family owns the apartment complex, and she remembers when tenants were in short supply just a few years ago. The family made a decision to keep rental rates within reason, especially for seniors. "You just realize that not everybody out there is making money from oil," Hoffelt said.

Like many apartment owners in the oil patch, Hoffelt no longer answers the telephone. "We don't have vacancies," she said. "When we'd get calls, their stories were just heart-wrenching."

Alton and Mary Lou Sundby, both in their early 70s, were notified last month that their rent would nearly triple. The two were almost forced to move in with their children who live out of state. But an apartment opened recently at a senior housing complex where they had been on a waiting list for more than seven years.

Mary Lou Sundby, who works part-time with mentally challenged adults, said she never thought she would be ashamed of the town where she and her husband, a retired truck driver, were raised and raised their own family.
"It just boils down to morals and ethics," she said. "And I think we're losing those in our hometown and everything it stood for."

Sinness hopes she'll eventually be able to return to her hometown. She's on a waiting list for an assisted-living complex for seniors. She also owns mineral rights on land where her grandparents homesteaded a century ago.
Oil companies are now eyeing the property for drilling, and she may reap oil royalties. "I'm going to be buried in Williston, next to my husband, so I'm coming back dead or alive," she said. "But I'll never pay $2,000 for rent."
 
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That's not jew-jitsu. That's basic economics.
 
Old November 14th, 2011 #91
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No it's GREED !
 
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That's not jew-jitsu. That's basic economics.
Lenny, our resident Jew lover, misses the point. It takes a Jew to throw old timers out in the cold when your expenses haven't gone up. It may be a Jew landlord who passed for White.
 
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Lenny, our resident Jew lover, misses the point. It takes a Jew to throw old timers out in the cold when your expenses haven't gone up. It may be a Jew landlord who passed for White.
And it might have been bigfoot in drag.

WTF?

A nowhere place with no housing stock suddenly is bursting at the seams with workers. Surprise! Rents go up. It's supply and demand. The first caveman hotel owner figured this out x-thousand years ago, but you guys haven't caught on yet.

No, it doesn't take a jew to do this. God knows there's enough real jewish treachery without making stuff up.

For all we know, the tenants may have been advised months ago. If they choose not to move to a more affordable town/city, why can't they move-in together to share rent?

Is it scummy? Yeah, somewhat, on a casual skim of the story. I call it gray area--something I would tend not to do. I wouldn't give a second thought were this May.

How about instead of bitching about phantom jews, you go take advantage of the severe housing shortage. That's the story, not poor Ma & Pa Kettle out in the cold. It's like a gold rush. The only little guys who make it are the suppliers.
 
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No it's GREED !
Yes, it is.

The tenants want their rent lower than everyone else in town.

Here are my tears:

 
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For all we know, the tenants may have been advised months ago. If they choose not to move to a more affordable town/city, why can't they move-in together to share rent?
I just re-read the story. The couple in question claim they were advised a month ago. Unless they're typical midwestern fools Linder's brethren (a distinct possibility), they should have had. . .an inkling, to be kind. Like, maybe, when 25,000 people showed up in town and didn't leave. Two years ago.

And they aren't out in the cold.

They had a place out-of-state. And in fact, they're in government mismanaged (to be redundant) 'subsidized' housing now.

So the story is. . .there is no story.
 
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That shot at midwesterners can apply to whites anywhere, of course.

Think about the people in question. They are the very folks who should be reaping the rewards. They are the descendents of the people who first settled.

But they haven't applied themselves; they've been (probably very likable) shitheads. Now, not only are they not reaping the rewards, they're getting pinched to boot. So they whine to be taken care of by Mama Gubmint, just like niggers.

One should always try to filter up, like the nigger toes in the mixed nuts can.
 
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One should always try to filter up, like the nigger toes in the mixed nuts can.
Be a nigger toe, not a peanut.

(I'm cracking my own nut because I'm delighted with my construction, not unlike the self-satisfied almonds, which reside amid can.)
 
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The $200,000-a-Year Mine Worker

The place is slightly off the map where he is doing it but the article shows a dramatically growing demand for people in this trade worldwide…

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...350869312.html
 
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I'm told that the mayor of Williston told national media this week that, for winter so far, there are 2,000 unfilled jobs a week available right now, and that as soon as those get hired (i.e. each individual job or group of 2,000), the replacement rate of ready slots is 1.5 times as many new jobs.

Keep waiting and enjoy the Kwa fast speedy downhill steel slide, self-chumps.
 
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I'm told that the mayor of Williston told national media this week that, for winter so far, there are 2,000 unfilled jobs a week available right now, and that as soon as those get hired (i.e. each individual job or group of 2,000), the replacement rate of ready slots is 1.5 times as many new jobs.

Keep waiting and enjoy the Kwa fast speedy downhill steel slide, self-chumps.
The North Dakota government should have refused to issue any more drilling permits until at least barracks style quarters were built for the workers. This is no different from unsafe mine conditions. Apartments can be built in three months time.
 
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