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Old July 9th, 2018 #1
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Question A racialist interpretation of the "Jungle Book" ?



. . really ? ? ?

Think about it . .

It is widely aknowledged that Rudyard Kipling was a racist , if not even a "supremacist" . . .

Well. .

A young "man cub" is found in the jungle by animals who raise him as one of their own . . .
During his journey he gets to know the dangers of the jungle, i. e. being far from civilisation . . .
He even is harassed by wild monkies who wish to be on the same level as man by trying to get the secret out of him how to make fire . . . .
In the end he discovers the world of man and is of course magically drawn into this world after what he had to endure in the jungle , i. e. he is drawn towards civilisation . .
Ordinary story, one might think. .

But I think a certain 'supremacism' may shine through this. . . .

Maybe Kipling , with this story , wanted to make clear that civilisation is the non plus ultra and that life in the jungle is damnable . . . ?


How do you view it ?

Concerning the movie, I might add that it contains some truly hilarious characters . . . .

For example Baloo , the bear . . . .

Who has ever seen a blue bear before ? ?




Or Colonel Hathi , you know , a British Imperial style elephant military leader . . .


I must say that I always did prefer the German version of this song though because it sounds a bit more "Nazi" . . . .

Yet my favourite of all characters in the movie has and always will be "brother Louie", you know, who Mowgli is good friends with in the beginning until he fiends out what they're after . . . . .


And, somehow, it is understandable that monkies would want to be like us . . .

They try it on America's streets day by day . . .
Way to go, Brother Louie . . . .

But I honestly didn't understand the reason for your "chimp-out" in the movie . . . . .




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Old March 6th, 2019 #2
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A while ago , I did a thread about "racism" in entertainment here . .

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=553437

. . should my analysis fit the truth , maybe even add 'the jungle book' to the list . .?

. . the novel was critisised as 'racist' and it was a known fact that R. Kipling was a racist . .

. . in fact a lot of authors in old times were racist . .

Another example would be Lovecraft . .


Lovecraft . . you know . .



Oh . . and by the way . .


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I never read the novel. My older sister liked this movie when we were kids.

I think it's Louie Prima singing.

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I never read the novel.
. . you should . .

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I think it's Louie Prima singing.

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I think it's Louie Prima singing.
. . in the German version it's Klaus Havenstein ( who , despite his suspicious name , isn't jewish : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Havenstein )


 
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Oh ,I only now realize that the first name of the guy singing the English version and the monkey-king's first name are identical . .

lol . . never paid attention to that . . I wonder if Louie Prima was , by his buddies , maybe forth on , only referred to as 'King Louie' after singing this song .



. . well , the name chosen could also be an allusion to this man though . .

 
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. . in the German version it's Klaus Havenstein ( who , despite his suspicious name , isn't jewish : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Havenstein )

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Weird, they kept some of the Phil Harris (Baloo) part in that.

He was in another Disney movie that I liked as a kid. My French friend told me this was the first movie his mum took him to. He's a little younger than me.

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Weird, they kept some of the Phil Harris (Baloo) part in that.

He was in another Disney movie that I liked as a kid. My French friend told me this was the first movie his mum took him to. He's a little younger than me.

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Old July 19th, 2019 #9
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Rudyard Kipling, by today's standards, would be considered a racist, that is true.

Also, the novel in comparison to the film is much more "serious".

Disney tends to give stories a "cute" cover.
In a way I agree, yes the story seems to paint life in the jungle as dangerous while at the same time holding up the marvels of civilization.
 
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. . I remember from the time shortly after my awakening when I learned to despise our politicians , that , when I heard that song again . .


In the German synchronization the song starts with "Ich bin der Knig im Affen-Staat . ." which literally translates as "I am the king in the monkey-state" . .

. . hmmm . . and I was like , thinking to myself . . well , Gerhard Schrder could sing that too ( Germany's ex-chancellor )



( he was chancellor at that time )


Oh , and by the way . .





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Freemasons , what many of our politicians are , often display secret gestures , yes , even on tv . .


. . the triangle / pyramid . .
 
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