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Old October 29th, 2013 #1
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Red face Masonic Zionist Dictator Mustafa Kemal Atajew Was Gay

Jewish Dictator Mustafa Kemal Was GAY

Source: Grey Wolf, Mustafa Kemal, An Intimate Study of a Dictator
Author: H.C. Armstrong, 1933

pages 253-254:

(After divorcing Latife)

".... Then he went back to the long nights in smoke-filled rooms with his drinking friends - the 'desperadoes' as they were nicknamed-his painted women and the life to which he belonged.

After that he became shameless. He drank deeper than ever. He started a number of open affairs with women, and with men. Male youth attracted him. He made advances to the wives and daughters of his supporters. Even important men sent their women-folk away from Angora out of his way."


* * * * *

Source: Western Civilization, Islam and Muslims,
Auhor: Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi,
translated from Urdu version by Dr. Mohammad Asif Kidwai, M.A.,Ph.D.,
Academy of Islamic Research & Publications, Lucknow, 1969

page: 46

"We will confine ourselves here only to the reproduction of a few extracts from his countryman and admirer, Irfan Orga, who, in his famous biography of him written in collaboration with his wife, Margaret, observes (Source: Orga, Irfan and Margaret, Ataturk, 1962, p. 246.):
..........

--He felt at home with the prostitutes and the homosexuals because they were so much worse off than he. The underlying sadism of his nature came out. He never credited people with feelings since he had none himself save the fundamental urge to conquer and see others submit to his will. He had to be at the top.

--He has never loved a woman. He was used to the camaraderie of the Mess, the craze for handsome young men, [and] fleeting contacts with prostitutes, ... His body burned, for a woman or a boy ..."

source: http://www.atajew.com/2000/06/gay.html
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There has been a point of view that Kemal Ataturk was some sort of degenerate lowlife in personality. It might be exaggerated by his islamist opponents, and to a lesser extent by Ottoman monarchists.

Some Turkish professor has revealed a link between Ataturk and Einstein, apparently.

http://newswatch.nationalgeographic....er-to-ataturk/



Whatever anyone says, Kemal was very capable military commander.
 
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Whatever anyone says, Kemal was very capable military commander.
how do you know that?
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how do you know that?
He was in command of victorious Turkish forces at Gallipoli in 1915, and also led Turks to victory against the Greek expeditionary army in Anatolia in 1922.
 
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There has been a point of view that Kemal Ataturk was some sort of degenerate lowlife in personality. It might be exaggerated by his islamist opponents, and to a lesser extent by Ottoman monarchists.

Some Turkish professor has revealed a link between Ataturk and Einstein, apparently.

http://newswatch.nationalgeographic....er-to-ataturk/
Whatever anyone says, Kemal was very capable military commander.
Many years a go it was claimed he was Dönmeh (crypto-Jew) and his wife's biography was certainly supressed: allegedly because she revealed his taste in sex with animals and chronic alcoholism. In fact think his death may have been due to cirrhosis.

The Young Turks (at least initially) were controlled by Jews/crypto Jews/Freemasons from Salonika where the openly Jewish population was circa 75% and Dönmeh circa 15% -- IIRC.

He was a terrific commander, though.
 
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He was in command of victorious Turkish forces at Gallipoli in 1915
That was hardly the brightest moment in WWI military history for the British and colonial forces, in a planning sense. Though the bravery of the soldiers and sailors involved is not in question.

Anything else?
 
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He was in command of victorious Turkish forces at Gallipoli in 1915, and also led Turks to victory against the Greek expeditionary army in Anatolia in 1922.
this is totally wrong. Mustafa Kemal was not the commander in Gallipoli war nor was he successful. He had a low rank, and in fact, he was even suspended for a little while by the Ottoman government in Constantinople after the Gallipoli war was over.

As far as the the war against the Greeks is concerned, that had been exaggerated. there were a few battles which the Greeks were victorious and in others the Turks were. Eventually the Greeks withdraw their troops from Western Turkey because the British asked them to.

After the invading forces such as French, Greeks, British and Italians withdraw their troops from Turkey, Mustafa Kemal and other crypto Jews already had the control of Turkey's military. And in 1923 they officially ended the Ottoman Empire and established their new rule under the name "Republic of Turkey", which was nothing but a secret Zionist Jewish Masonic state instead.

There are many Turks out there who know the truth but in Turkey there are still strict laws that prohibit people from speaking up! You probably heard about the ridiculous court cases in Turkey with the title "insulting Ataturk", "insulting the Republic", or "insulting Turkishness" and such. In fact no one is insulting anyone or anything. There are just some people out there who realized that the secular government is brainwashing its people for decades, and the Crypto Jews who run the country try to silence these whistleblowers!
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this is totally wrong. Mustafa Kemal was not the commander in Gallipoli war nor was he successful. He had a low rank, and in fact, he was even suspended for a little while by the Ottoman government in Constantinople after the Gallipoli war was over.
Interesting, thanks. I was under the impression that Kemal was always an excellent soldier, and will now look into this. There has been rumour that he was some sort of sex-maniac or psychopath in his personality. I doubt he was a jew himself. What about the contemporary politician Enver Pasha? To me Enver seems a strange character. The destruction of the Ottoman state and society has not been much covered by historians.
 
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I' reading
LAWRENCE In Arabia by Scott Anderson
Has interesting info about this period
 
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I doubt he was a jew himself. What about the contemporary politician Enver Pasha? To me Enver seems a strange character. The destruction of the Ottoman state and society has not been much covered by historians.
- Source: The Secret Jews, Joachim Prinz, Random House, 1973, Page: 122

"The revolt of the Young Turks in 1908 against the authoritarian regime of Sultan Abdul Hamid began among the intellectuals of Salonika. It was from there that the demand for a constitutional regime originated. Among the leaders of the revolution which resulted in a more modern government in Turkey were Djavid Bey and Mustafa Kemal. Both were ardent '
Doenme Doenme
'. Djavid Bey became minister of finance; Mustafa Kemal became the leader of the new regime and he adopted the name of Ataturk. His opponents tried to use his 'doenmeh' background to unseat him, but without success. Too many of the Young Turks in the newly formed revolutionary Cabinet prayed to Allah, but had as their real prophet Shabtai Zvi, the Messiah of Smyrna."


- Source: The Literary Digest (a News Journal published in USA); October 14, 1922, page: 50

"A Spanish Jew by ancestry, an orthodox Moslem by birth and breeding, trained in a German war college, a patriot, a student of the campaigns of the world's great generals, including Napoleon, Grant and Lee - these are said to be a few outstanding characteristics in the personality of the new "Man on Horseback" who has appeared in the Near East. He is a real dictator, the correspondents testify, a man of the type which is at once the hope and fear of nations torn to pieces by unsuccessful wars. Unity and power have come back to Turkey largely through the will of Mustafa Kemal Pasha.

............

There was the pasha himself, tall, still young, good-looking, narrow-hipped, wide-shouldered, with gray, rather sad eyes that spoke eloquently of his Spanish-Jewish ancestry - for Kemal, like Enver Pasha, tho an orthodox Moslem, is descended from those Spanish-Jewish families that, given by Christianity the tolerant choice between death, conversion and exile, found asylum and happiness in the Sultan's domains - and with strong, high-veined hands, broad and flat across the wrist - the hands of an artist, a dreamer, yet, too, those of a doer, a man who knows how to clout his dreams into facts."
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He was in command of victorious Turkish forces at Gallipoli in 1915, and also led Turks to victory against the Greek expeditionary army in Anatolia in 1922.
the below confirms what I stated before. I just ran into it while browsing the net..

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Ataturk failed to govern even 10 people, Turkish professor says

December 16, 2010 | 13:57

One of the professors of Turkish Sabanci University Cemil Kocak delivered a scandalous speech at a conference dedicated to the Canakkale war.

Speaking at the conference, Kocak repeatedly placed emphasis on “lieutenant colonel Mustafa” phrase, Aksam reported. One of the participants asked whether he meant Kemal Ataturk by saying Mustafa.

“Lieutenant colonel Mustafa was dismissed for being unaccomplished and talentless. It was a mere coincidence that he became a historical figure. Lieutenant colonel Mustafa did not govern even 5-10 people. If he were not lucky he would spend his life in the corner of a cafe',” he said, adding that Germans, not Turks won the battle of Canakkale.

source http://news.am/eng/news/41941.html
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