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From the jailhouse phone conversation between Steele and his son:
From the jailhouse phone conversation between Steele and his wife:
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To seize assets, there must be some statutory authority allowing the seizure, and Steele must be accorded his Right of Due Process. Of course, we all know how the government operates. |
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The interesting point about the $10,000 in silver is that was not mentioned in the early reported and does not seem to have been referenced in the government charges against Steele. Why do the charges against Steele state in the recorded conversations with Fairfax the $500/$400 travel expenses was reference the $25,000 post hit pay off and the $100,000 thousand post off after the insurance policy paid off?
It seems that the $10,000 in silver coins only became public after the bombs were discovered. Why would Steele not have mentioned this in the recording? It seem what likely happened was that after the bombs were found, the FBI said to Fairfax, you better right now tell use everything else and if there are any more surprises you will not get a special treatment. If the FBI manufactured the recording and did not know about the $10,000 in silver coins then the could not have included this in the recordings. But then there is still a need to explain why Steele gave Fairfax $10,000 in silver coins. |
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Steele is correct that the tape between him and his wife cannot be used in court without her permission. He could have done a better job in not setting himself up for coercing a witness. The doll for his Ukranian girl friend is a new angle in the case. Steele sounds like that his brain is working quite well however.
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Given that I could not get through the complete recording ...
Steele should have been more lawyerly and told his wife not to speak to anybody about the case, even her friends and family members, or government officials. He should have also pointed out to her that the government may try to create a situation were she would be prosecuted if she did not testify against her husband. But on the other hand, if she said that it was not her husband on the tapes, then that could have been a significant win Steele and maybe worth the gamble. Yes, Steele's mind does seem to functioning quite well. For example, he told both his wife and son what to do first, in case they were cut off, and then made is argument to them. |
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It's crazy when the American people must fear their own government. What are we coming to?
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I believe in Steele's innocence, but his chances of proving it aren't looking good, for the simple fact that the middle class whites who will likely make up the bulk of the jury won't be able to accept the suggestion that the FBI would manufacture evidence against him.
To the average middle class white, cops, the government, and the MSM are always right, science and technology are infallible, and white "racists" are pure evil.
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Oh-oh, the alleged girlfriend provides a strong motive (if they mean she was his girlfriend and not his son´s), it leads to the possibility that he may have wanted to get rid of his wife so that he could collect the life insurance and avoid having to pay a fortune in alimony. Unfortunately when a story is as convoluted as this one the simplest scenario is usually the one that pans out, pussy often makes even the smartest men do incredibly stupid shit.
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I disagree, Igor.
Consider both possibilities: a) suppose Steele did actually have that conversation with Fairfax, then Steele would know already that the attorney general could parade a host of audio/electronic experts to swear that the tape is pristine (not concocted, nor edited, nor in any way altered from its original recording), and, then they could have additional voice experts testify that the voice on this "pristine" tape was Ed's to a high percentage level (99% or some such "beyond reasonable doubt" figure). Even though Ed could hire his own experts to dispute the government experts, Ed knows that his experts couldn't really refute the government's experts because Ed knows he actually did have that conversation. So there would be no need to worry about how his wife reacts to the tape, since her testimony would not be vital to the government's case. If Ed had actually had that conversation, his only defense would be to claim he was "play-acting" or some such claim to the effect that he was not actually talking in earnest about his true real-world intentions. Ed is not doing this, so, suppose Ed knows in his heart of hearts that he NEVER had any such conversation with Fairfax, nor anyone else, about any such of a thing as to having anyone killed. That knowledge, along with the harsh and terrorizing act of being arrested and charged, would leave him wondering in dismay as to how the hell is the government going to get a phony tape introduced without it being subjected to his own experts who really could destroy any government claims by educating the jury as to what tape-recording authentication is all about, and, since Ed would know he never had any such conversation, then he would be confident that he would prevail during the trial. So it would have left Ed in bewilderment as to why the government would be so foolish as to think they could get away with using a phony tape, since it wouldn't hold up before a thorough scrutinizing to which his own experts would subject it. But, when Ed realized they were going to play this phony tape to his wife, and that this effort involved the US attorney general, he realized, being a lawyer himself, that the government could skip expert authentication by shocking his wife with a top-notch but phony recording, patched together from the many times Ed's voice appeared in the public domain. In that case, Ed could not call expert witnesses to dispute government expert witnesses, because the only governmnet witness would be his own wife. Ed reasoned that the government could gamble that this ruse might work because Ed's wife is not an expert tape-recording authenticator, and, she would only be reacting to the recorded voice of her own husband (and it would be a normal reaction by anyone in that circumstance) and allow as to how "it sounds like him". Remember, Matt Hale's conviction was based solely on the testimony of the government's scumbag snitch that, even though Hale spoke out against doing anything "illegal" to that bitch judge, the snitch claimed that he "nodded" in approval. To live under a government which is capable of dreaming up this kind of low-down underhanded scheming (and Ed already knows what kind of rats make up the government), one can easily see just how far these scumbags will go to fabricate a case that their psychological counselors say will probably "fly in Peoria". I think, from hearing this tape, that Ed is being framed, and, as I mentioned on another post, the government is using a now tried and proven approach to find some way to drive a wedge between a targetted man and his wife. The government's knowledge that Ed may have had extra-marital interests (we can't know how extensive this is or how objectionable it was to his wife) could have given the government the idea that she just might give a smidgeon of credence to an expertly fabricated, but phony, tape recording of her husband alledgedly plotting to have her murdered. This tape was over a week ago, and, there has been no later mention so I am suspicious that Ed's wife did not give them what they needed and the government is scurrying around trying to salvage thier case without her inadvertant help. Ed's tone in this recordning suggests to me a man who had been bewildered by what seemed to be a no-win approach by the government, but who finally figured out their scheme and was desparate to explain it to the governments unwitting key witness in time to thwart this outlandish ruse. Steele - Innocent: Government - GUILTY!! |
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I'm taking telephone calls at 601-939-2950 concerning the Steele case.
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I don't know where the post is but a couple of years ago someone here said they heard me call into some radio program of which I was unfamiliar. The poster provided a link to the mp3 file and whoever the caller was did in fact sound similar to me. However, I did not make that call and it was not me that called into that show. I bring this up in light of the possibility that they somehow synthesized Steele's voice and created an adulterated audio recording.
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Embarrassing Matter for the Feds
Posters here have missed an important point. When the pipe bomb was found on Cyndi's vehicle, the local county bomb squad got involved. This ruined the Fed's little game. The county law was likely not involved before this and they let the cat out of the bag.
Now all of a sudden the Fed's poster boy is being held without bail. Steele will rip him to shreds on the stand. Last edited by Donald E. Pauly; June 23rd, 2010 at 10:41 PM. Reason: typo |
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Recording Link and Bail Hearing Article
This is the full text of the article about the Steele bail hearing. The audio jail house recording of Steele is also at the link below. This is necessary to understand the comments of the previous several posters.
======== http://www.nwcn.com/news/idaho/Judge...-96943409.html Judge orders Steele held in jail in murder for hire plot COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho -- A federal judge ordered former Aryan Nations attorney Edgar Steele, who's accused of hiring a hitman to kill his wife, to stay in jail until his trial starts. Steele said the murder for hire charge is "one giant plot against me" during his detention hearing on Tuesday in the U.S. Federal Courthouse in Coeur d'Alene. Steele was represented by attorney Roger Pevan in the hearing that determined whether he will remain in jail until his trial. During the hearing Tuesday, a portion of an audio tape was played in court of a conversation from jail on June 13th between Steele and his son, Rex, and his wife, Cyndi. Prosecutors said Steele is heard telling his wife and son that two recorded phone conversations between Steele and the alleged hitman, Larry Fairfax, do not contain Steele's voice and he denied plotting to kill his wife. Steele claimed in the call from jail that it's all "one giant plot against me." Steele was arrested June 12 in Sagle, ID. According to the FBI, it was the same day the hit was supposed to take place. Investigators with the FBI told KREM 2 News Steele paid Fairfax $500 up front for the hit on his wife and mother-in-law, and told them he would pay another $100,000 if the insurance settlement came through. The FBI says the plan was to make the hit "look like an accident." Both women were located in Oregon City, Oregon, where Steele's wife was visiting her sick mother. The FBI believes Steele may have been planning the hit for 6 months. Steele is not seperated from his wife. Last edited by Donald E. Pauly; June 24th, 2010 at 12:37 AM. Reason: grammatical error |
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As they say, a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link and Fairfax is that weak link. The point now is to find out who's chain he is in. One thing seems quite obvious and that is there is reasonable doubt. |
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From the jailhouse phone conversation between Steele and his son:
From the jailhouse phone conversation between Steele and his wife:
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EJS can beat this one. It is sloppy and obviously bogus.
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Yes, this very same confidence saved Bill White from Federal prison time. Also allowed the Hutaree bail freedom.
Woops! Maybe not. Get it straight, jack knobs, you don't matter. Your ideology and faulty strategy are a ticket punch to promotion for an incompetent FBI agent. Turn to the Lord. Make your life matter. I've seen too many ruined lives, ruined marraiges, ruined reputations......with nothing to show for it. You ain't making progress when Tea Party senior citizens are stealing your thunder. |
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This is not true. In most jurisdictions the wife cannot be COMPELLED to testify against her husband and vice versa. All the Feds have to do is convince Cyndi that the tape is real and she will be their star witness.
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