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Why do you call yourself Indian and not Mongolian, Valdez?
You aren't from India, so why do you claim to be something you're not? And why are you not forming alliances with the yellow people, your own ancestors, as can be seen by your jaw? According to you, the yellow people were in the Americas first, so according to your theory, the Americas should belong to the Mongolians and Chinese, and be ruled from China. Why do you think the Chinese would allow mixed race Mongolian/blacks to be in charge of anything, or even allow you to live? If your dream of those you claim to be the true owners of the Americas taking over the Americas, comes true, you will rapidly find you aren't included amongst the rulers, but amongst the slaves. Two thirds of your people in the Americas only live because the Whites feed, clothe, house and medicate you. If the Chinese do take over, that will stop, and two thirds of your people will die. The Chinese will enslave the rest, and kill them down the mines. They have 500 million Chinese they need to find living space for, and you are in that living space. Just out of interest, how well do you swim, and from your photos, why are you not exercising?
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In truth, they are not white according to the most consistent standard; they do possess a proportion of Indian admixture. Yet most whites in the Americas do. Quote:
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Four in 10 Americans Believe in Strict Creationism "Four in 10 Americans, slightly fewer today than in years past, believe God created humans in their present form about 10,000 years ago. Thirty-eight percent believe God guided a process by which humans developed over millions of years from less advanced life forms, while 16%, up slightly from years past, believe humans developed over millions of years, without God's involvement." Or do you practice the typical white supremacist inconsistency? Speaking of creationism, this is remarkably similar to their laughable wordplay regarding the "theory" of evolution. Perhaps you'll voice a similar suspicion regarding the "theory" of gravity. Concerning this theory, a near-unanimous scholarly consensus supports it, since it is so powerfully evidenced by genetic research (i.e. sub-Saharan Africans exhibit the greatest genomic diversity as well as the greatest genomic distance from other populations of the world). An example is Out of Africa again and again: There is general agreement that the human lineage evolved in Africa, and then spread to southern Eurasia as Homo erectus...Humans expanded again and again out of Africa, but these expansions resulted in interbreeding, not replacement, and thereby strengthened the genetic ties between human populations throughout the world. Granted, you're certainly welcome to peruse the 369 results that cite this article and report back to us with your findings about the substantial genetic evidence behind competing theories. Quote:
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Let me pour some more salt into Lindy's wound.
Lindy's information is accurate as of about 1998, when mtDNA Haplogroup X: An Ancient Link between Europe/Western Asia and North America? was published: "On the basis of comprehensive RFLP analysis, it has been inferred that not, vert, similar97% of Native American mtDNAs belong to one of four major founding mtDNA lineages, designated haplogroups 'A'–'D.' It has been proposed that a fifth mtDNA haplogroup (haplogroup X) represents a minor founding lineage in Native Americans. Unlike haplogroups A–D, haplogroup X is also found at low frequencies in modern European populations. To investigate the origins, diversity, and continental relationships of this haplogroup, we performed mtDNA high-resolution RFLP and complete control region (CR) sequence analysis on 22 putative Native American haplogroup X and 14 putative European haplogroup X mtDNAs. The results identified a consensus haplogroup X motif that characterizes our European and Native American samples. Among Native Americans, haplogroup X appears to be essentially restricted to northern Amerindian groups, including the Ojibwa, the Nuu-Chah-Nulth, the Sioux, and the Yakima, although we also observed this haplogroup in the Na-Dene–speaking Navajo. Median network analysis indicated that European and Native American haplogroup X mtDNAs, although distinct, nevertheless are distantly related to each other. Time estimates for the arrival of X in North America are 12,000–36,000 years ago, depending on the number of assumed founders, thus supporting the conclusion that the peoples harboring haplogroup X were among the original founders of Native American populations. To date, haplogroup X has not been unambiguously identified in Asia, raising the possibility that some Native American founders were of Caucasian ancestry." Yet even this study evidenced the later conclusion of researchers: "The time of entry of haplogroup X into the Americas, calculated from both RFLP and CR HVS-I sequence data and on the assumption that there is a single founder root for Native American mtDNAs, yielded a coalescence age, in the New World, of 23,000–36,000 years ago...A coalescence time of 23,000–36,000 years ago would suggest that haplogroup X arrived in the Americas during the initial major Amerindian migration 20,000–30,000 years ago...Haplogroup X is remarkable in that it has not been found in Asians, including Siberians, suggesting that it may have come to the Americas via a Eurasian migration. However, a more extensive survey of Asian mtDNAs, as well as additional characterization of European and Native American haplogroup X mtDNAs, will be necessary to fully deduce the origin of haplogroup X in North America." That more extensive survey was published three years later, in 2001, in the aforementioned The Presence of Mitochondrial Haplogroup X in Altaians from South Siberia. As expressed in Brief communication: Haplogroup X confirmed in prehistoric North America, "The presence of haplogroup X in prehistoric North America, along with recent findings of haplogroup X in southern Siberians, confirms the hypothesis that haplogroup X is a founding lineage." Another study of interest is Origin and Diffusion of mtDNA Haplogroup X: "Native American X sequences that constitute the distinctive X2a clade, a clade that lacks close relatives in the entire Old World, including Siberia. The position of X2a in the phylogenetic tree suggests an early split from the other X2 clades, likely at the very beginning of their expansion and spread from the Near East." This is the problem with you idiot fascists. You spout off with nonsense that's about 13 years behind the times (at best), because you simply regurgitate without understanding, as a parrot does. |
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Maize in Sumer from 5000bc, Roman maps of S America
There is evidence right across from Egypt to Sumeria, that maize grew in that area, and there are depictions of it in Sumer 5000 years old, and Egyptian tombs dating back to 4000 bc.
That means there was trade between the Whites in the Americas on the East coast, and Egypt, the Middle East and on into Europe.
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I am against this "Whites came first" way of expressing this for the reason it implies equality on some level. If we came last we still have more right as we are the superior race and culture.
Or I point out when we write on things we should avoid implicit liberalism. I am against all this National Democratic wetness we see from the likes of Duke etc. I think Whites will either dominate and exterminate or vanish and there is no intermediate position because the mere existence of Non-Whites in the long run means mixing and contamination. Compare the low quality of modern Whites compared to Whites 2300 years ago.Almost a different race. |
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No, euros are the inferior race and culture, and unwanted trespassers and interlopers that have spread their parasitic infection to every other inhabited continent in the world. They are a cancer, a plague, a fungus, and the world will be better without their influence.
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I thought everyone knew that people with castilian names couldn't possibly be Native Americans, but were instead "spanish" or "Mexicans."
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The joke's on you, not seeing your own blind spot. What you're doing is the goofy equivalent of telling Rodney Dangerfield in "Caddyshack" that he's wrong, it's not a "kangaroo" that stole his ball at all.
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Face it: you have no answer for the actual physical evidence: the spear points, dog genetics and the ochre cache on the East Coast. And most likely the skeletons too, since most of the oldest have not been allowed to be tested. All your side has is desperate genetic claims and suppression of skeletal evidence, and suppression of academics pushing alternative views. Your faith in peer review is merely the latest manifestation of your simplemindedness, which started with the bibble, but has moved on to academic journals. If you actually bothered to think, rather than cite, you would see that altho peer review is put forward as a way to uphold standards, it is just as useful for enforcing artificial and false consensus. Stanford even mentions this in his paper, how hard it is to get any alternative theory published. Duesberg says much the same thing, as regards an even less political area, medical research. Turns out even medical research is incredibly political. You've never made the slightest acknowledgement that your side suppresses the facts, so when you talk about projection and blind spots, you're the joker. This is what your school does when it holds absolute power, don't kid yourself, cuz you aren't fooling us: Scientific dissent from Lysenko's theories of environmentally acquired inheritance was formally outlawed in 1948, and for the next several years opponents were purged from held positions, and many imprisoned. Yeah...all these people came over from asia 10,000 years ago...we just don't have any bones to point to, or any tools that look anything like what they find in asia. Oh, and we also find DNA that is found almost 100% in Europe. The judeo-left's response is to scour asia for any trace of X and spear points that look anything like solutrean. They can't find the latter, but they can find a tiny bit of X. So that proves it! Not hardly. The great thing is, you're going to be defeated by your own principle, which is that morality is universal, and the people who got here first own the continent. I hear Siberia calling, beandog. Time to go back to Ulan Bator along with the other asian interlopers. Last edited by Alex Linder; July 13th, 2011 at 06:26 PM. |
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Leonard, it looks like the people who were responsible for Nazca and the famous Nazca lines etc in Peru were Whites. Many are now being uncovered in their graves near Chauchilla.
The Nazcas clearly were redheads, blondes and brown haired i.e. Whites, just like the local jungle Mongolians, Jungolians I suppose we should call them, always said they were.
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Europeans colonised america in 28,000 bc
http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/3...nisedeuros.php
THE TIMES, SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2000 By Roger Highfield, Science Editor, in Washington DC EUROPEANS colonised America up to 30,000 years ago, perhaps by crossing the Atlantic, according to a genetic analysis of native Americans that sheds light on their origins. By studying the DNA in “power packs’ of cells called mitochondria, scientist can compare populations to reveal evidnece of ancient migrations, the American Association for the Advancement of Science was told. Such work shows four main lineages in native Americans which can be traced to Siberia and north-east Asia, notably in Baikal and Altai-Sayan. However, a fifth – more minor – founding lineage, called haplogroup X, can be traced to Europe, and is found in North American populations, said Dr Theodore Schurr of Southwest Foundation for Biomedical Research in San Antonio, Texas. "This is one of the intriguing findings that we have come across recently,” said Dr Schurr. “These data imply that haplogroup X was present in the New World long before Europeans first arrived in the New World, before Columbus or the Vikings or anybody else.” The find has led to some speculation that ancient people crossed the Atlantic from the Old World, because evidence of the group has not so far been found in Asia, though he stressed that not all central Asian groups had been analysed. Dr Schurr said: “Haplogroup X was brought to the New World by an ancient Eurasian population in a migratory event distinct from those bringing the other four lineages to the Americas.” The haplogroup X occurs most among Algonkian – speaking groups such as the Ojibwa, and has been detected in two pre-Colombian north American populations. Today,haplogroup is found in between two and four per cent of European populations, and in the Middle East, he said, particularly in Israel. The complex origins of the first Americans has also been highlighted by an analysis of thousands of skulls from around the world. A team of anthropologists from the University of Michigan found that the study confirmed the complex origins of native Americans that have been suggested by recent archeological and genetic studies. Using comparisons of thousands of ancient and modern skulls, collected over a period of 20 years and containing new data from Mongolia that became accessible just last summer, Prof Loring Brace showed how the native inhabitants of the Western Hemisphere fit into several different groups based on craniofacial patterns. Their studies show that descendants of the first humans to enter the New World, including natives of Mexico, Peru, and the southern United States, have no obvious ties to any Asian groups. “This could be because they have been separated from their Asian sources for the longest period of time.” he said. A second group – included the Blackfoot, Iroquois and other tribes from Minnesota, Michigan, Ontario, and Massachuesetts – was descended from the Jomon, of the prehistoric people of Japan. The Inuit appear to be a later branch from that same Jomon trunk. Tribal groups who lived down the eastern seaboard into Florida share this origin, according to Prof Brace. Another group, originating in China and including the Athabascan-speaking people of the Yukon drainage of Alaska and north-west Canada, spread as far south as Arizona and northern Mexico. “Their craniofacial configuration allies them more closely to the living Chinese than to any other population in either hemisphere,” he said.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/430944.stm
'First Americans were Australian' This is the face of the first known American, Lucia The first Americans were descended from Australian aborigines, according to evidence in a new BBC documentary. [ image: The skulls suggest faces like those of Australian aborigines] The skulls suggest faces like those of Australian aborigines The programme, Ancient Voices, shows that the dimensions of prehistoric skulls found in Brazil match those of the aboriginal peoples of Australia and Melanesia. Other evidence suggests that these first Americans were later massacred by invaders from Asia. Until now, native Americans were believed to have descended from Asian ancestors who arrived over a land bridge between Siberia and Alaska and then migrated across the whole of north and south America. The land bridge was formed 11,000 years ago during the ice age, when sea level dropped. How rock art suggests a violent end for the "Australian" Americans However, the new evidence shows that these people did not arrive in an empty wilderness. Stone tools and charcoal from the site in Brazil show evidence of human habitation as long ago as 50,000 years. The site is at Serra Da Capivara in remote northeast Brazil. This area is now inhabited by the descendants of European settlers and African slaves who arrived just 500 years ago. But cave paintings found here provided the first clue to the existence of a much older people. [ image: The costumes and rituals shown in rock art survived in Terra del Fuego] The costumes and rituals shown in rock art survived in Terra del Fuego Images of giant armadillos, which died out before the last ice age, show the artists who drew them lived before even the natives who greeted the Europeans. These Asian people have facial features described as mongoloid. However, skulls dug from a depth equivalent to 9,000 to 12,000 years ago are very different. Walter Neves, an archaeologist from the University of Sao Paolo, has taken extensive skull measurements from dozens of skulls, including the oldest, a young woman who has been named Lucia. "The measurements show that Lucia was anything but mongoloid," he says. [ image: Walter Neves has measured hundreds of skulls] Walter Neves has measured hundreds of skulls The next step was to reconstruct a face from Lucia's skull. First, a CAT scan of the skull was done, to allow an accurate working model to be made. Then a forensic artist, Richard Neave from the University of Manchester, UK, created a face for Lucia. The result was surprising: "It has all the features of a negroid face," says Dr Neave. [ image: Lucia's skull is 12,000 years old] Lucia's skull is 12,000 years old The skull dimensions and facial features match most closely the native people of Australia and Melanesia. These people date back to about 60,000 years, and were themselves descended from the first humans, who left Africa about 100,000 years ago. But how could the early Australians have travelled more than 13,500 kilometres (8,450 miles) at that time? The answer comes from more cave paintings, this time from the Kimberley, a region at the northern tip of Western Australia. Here, Grahame Walsh, an expert on Australian rock art, found the oldest painting of a boat anywhere in the world. The style of the art means it is at least 17,000 years old, but it could be up to 50,000 years old. And the crucial detail is the high prow of the boat. This would have been unnecessary for boats used in calm, inland waters. The design suggests it was used on the open ocean. Fantastic voyage Archaeologists speculate that such an incredible sea voyage, from Australia to Brazil, would not have been undertaken knowingly but by accident. Just three years ago, five African fishermen were caught in a storm and a few weeks later were washed up on the shores of South America. Two of the fishermen died, but three made it alive. Walter Neves says the negroid people disappear 7,000 years ago But if the first Americans had drifted from Australia, where are their descendants now? Again, the skulls suggest an answer. The shape of the skulls changes between 9,000 and 7,000 years ago from being exclusively negroid to exclusively mongoloid. Combined with rock art evidence of increasing violence at this time, it appears that the mongoloid people from the north invaded and wiped out the original Americans. [ image: Fuegean Cristina Calderon may be one of the few surviving descendants of the first Americans] Fuegean Cristina Calderon may be one of the few surviving descendants of the first Americans The only evidence of any survivors comes from Terra del Fuego, the islands at the remotest southern tip of South America. The pre-European Fuegeans, who lived stone age-style lives until this century, show hybrid skull features which could have resulted from intermarrying between mongoloid and negroid peoples. Their rituals and traditions also bear some resemblance to the ancient rock art in Brazil. The identity of the first Americans is an emotive and controversial question. But the evidence from Brazil, and a handful of people who still live at the very tip of South America, suggests that the Americas have been home to a greater diversity of humans than previously thought - and for much longer. Ancient Voices: The hunt for the first Americans will be shown on BBC Two at 2130 BST on Wednesday 1 September.
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I wonder if that could help explain those Olmec statues.
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