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Old October 27th, 2009 #1
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When I was a kid, one of the biggest stories I heard was when the bomb plot against Hitler failed, he ordered the conspirators hung with piano wire and it
was reported 'he watched the execution many times.'

I want to know if this is true, or is it just made-up. If there is such a film, why isn't it available? I remember seeing a documentary where Walter Chronkite described this film, then, with a dramatic pause he faced the camera. 'We cannot show you this film.'

It would seem that nowadays, a copy would be available anywhere, and if they want to show Hitler as a demon, why not release it...in essence, the world's first snuff film.

Any ideas?
 
Old October 27th, 2009 #2
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When I was a kid, one of the biggest stories I heard was when the bomb plot against Hitler failed, he ordered the conspirators hung with piano wire and it
was reported 'he watched the execution many times.'

I want to know if this is true, or is it just made-up. If there is such a film, why isn't it available? I remember seeing a documentary where Walter Chronkite described this film, then, with a dramatic pause he faced the camera. 'We cannot show you this film.'

It would seem that nowadays, a copy would be available anywhere, and if they want to show Hitler as a demon, why not release it...in essence, the world's first snuff film.

Any ideas?

All I've seen is film of what appeared to be gallows, with some kind of wire hanging down. No proof, just jewsmedia propaganda. But considering the bombings of German cities and attrocities being committed against German civilians by July 1944, who the hell can blame Hitler for hanging traitors ?? Hitler was a saint compared to Stalin, Churchill, and Rosenveld. Irrefutably, truth be told.
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Old October 28th, 2009 #3
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I remember seeing a documentary where Walter Chronkite described this film, then, with a dramatic pause he faced the camera. 'We cannot show you this film.'
If this account is accurate, then Cronkite was lying by omission. He was leading the viewers to believe that he had seen the film, that CBS News possessed a copy, but that they wouldn't show it because it was too gruesome. He should have said "We cannot show you this film because we don't have it and there is no evidence it exists." There are no credible accounts of anyone having seen this film.

There is film of the TRIAL of the coup plotters, but not of their execution.



Page 872, Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich, David Irving, Fpp edition:


Poisoning the already strained atmosphere, the trials of the traitors in the People’s Court ontinued all autumn. Dr Dietrich had strongly opposed allowing any newspaper coverage of them. Goebbels had overruled him.19 Hadamowsky observed the first day, when Witzleben, Hoepner, and Stieff were tried and sentenced; he praised Judge Freisler as magisterial, national socialist, and superior.20 Goebbels had commissioned a film of the trial and hangings.21 Hitler however forbade its release fearing a backlash, an ‘undesirable debate’ about the trial.22 He ordered the execution footage particularly kept under lock and key. Despite this newspapers reported that the British legation in Switzerland had shown a print to Swiss officers there. Investigations showed that it was a fake furnished by a Mr Saunders, a British secret service agent; it was evidently the origin of several post-war legends about the executions including rumours that the men were hanged from meathooks and took ten hours to die.23

Page 872, Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich, David Irving, Fpp edition

Footnotes

21 The film was ‘Verräter vor dem Volksgericht.’ The first part, five acts, ran for 105 minutes;
the second, also five acts, for 105 minutes; a silent roll showing the hanging of Witzleben
et al. in four acts ran for 20–25 minutes. Their current location is unknown.
Reichsfilmintendant (Hinkel) to Naumann, Aug 31, 1944 (BA file R.55/664); and Lindenborn
to JG, Jan 17, 1945 (ZStA Potsdam, Rep.50.01, vol.831).

22 Note by Leiter F. (of Hinkel’s staff), Oct 21, 1944 (ZStA Potsdam, Rep.50.01, vol.831).—
The film shown at the Nuremberg trials, ‘Proceedings against the Criminals of Jul 20, 1944,’
was edited from unreleased Deutsche Wochenschau newsreel footage confiscated by OMGUS
at the offices of AFIFA in Tempelhof.

23 SS Sturmbannführer Ulenberg (RMVP) to Hinkel, Mar 5 (ZStA Potsdam, Rep.50.01,
vol.831). Die Nation, Feb 14, 1945 published an alleged photo of Witzleben and Hoepner
hanging.Panzermahn
 
Old October 28th, 2009 #4
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If the jews had such a film, they would be running it every night on the History Channel, claiming it shows Germans are uncivilized,barbaric, inhuman, etc.
 
Old October 28th, 2009 #5
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In any account of the 1944 coup attempt, you will read that the plotters did not receive a fair trial, that proper rules of evidence were not followed, etc.


Ironically, they will then go on to praise the Nuremberg trials, which were convened the very next year, as "a triumph of law over lawlessness".


The charges at Nuremburg were based on "ex post facto" laws, meaning that the defendants were indicted for something that was not a crime until after they had committed it. Ex post facto criminal laws are completely impermissible under the U.S. Constitution; prosecution of the Germans for non-crimes undermines the entire legitimacy of the Nuremberg proceedings.
 
Old October 28th, 2009 #6
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I want to know if this is true, or is it just made-up. If there is such a film, why isn't it available?
Because it doesn't exist. The victors of WW2 lynched the German Government at Nuremberg. They also had to invent massive atrocities by the Germans in order to justify their Firestorm bombing of German CIVILIANS in cities where they killed millions. In Dresden for example, no-one actually knows how many died, but Field Marshall Keitel said, 'The have burned half a million to death'.

The older I get the more I agree with David Irving, who is without doubt the best historian of WW2. He sees Hitler as an incompetent administrator who, 'was often ignored and undermined by his underlings'. Hitler was too soft, he never really understood what ruthless mongrel that bastard Churchill was.Silly Adolf even mused that after the USSR was defeated he would put Stalin up in comfortable DACHA in the countryside and let him live out his life under the protection of the German Reich.

Instead Stalin was using part of Hitler's skull as an ashtray within days after the war.

In a real sense that Aryan softness seems to be a characteristic of the White Race. It's why we are getting done over by our numerically inferior, but our most dangerous, mortal enemy, the Jew. It seems to be our Achilles heel.

Hitler thought, by allowing 330,000 Brits to ESCAPE after the Wehrmacht absolutely trounced the Brits and French and had their armies trapped at Dunkirk, that the JEWISH alcohol sodden, pisspot, Churchill would thank him!

That's like seeing an 800 Pound Porker standing in your vegetable garden, staring at you, blood in its eye and asking it to, BE NICE!

Poor old Rudolf Hess, he thought by Flying to Scotland and offering the British PEACE that the bi-sexual Churchill Schweinhund would say 'THANK YOU! Instead the silly bastard spent 46 YEARS in Jail! He was the LAST ever prisoner in the Tower of London. 46 years in the 'slot', 20 of them in Solitary confinement.

That's some mistake!

In the end they never let old Hess out. The Brits sent MI6 thugs to Spandau Prison where they throttled the poor old bugger to death as he was tending to his tomatoes in a glasshouse!
 
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So were they hanged on meat-hooks, or by piano wire? I enjoyed the "Valkyrie" clip there with Hollywood's graceful solution: Meat-hooks, WITH piano wire LOL

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I did a search for "Zapruder film" on YouTube, and I got 38,600 results.

40,000 videos of a man's head getting blown off, but no videos of Hitler's hanging generals.


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Old October 19th, 2013 #10
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The film was made but Hitler never watched it
 
Old October 20th, 2013 #11
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I always thought it interesting that they waited until 1944, when the war was clearly turning against Germany, to pull their coup. They enjoyed the run-up of the previous few years but became suddenly concerned when things starting looking down. (Ditto for those "White Rose" kids ... waited until things turned bad to rebel.)

I find Rommel's involvement in the whole plot, and his story, to be the most interesting and tragic part of the narrative. (Look it up on Wikipedia ... take the details with a big grain of salt though, I suspect.)
 
Old October 21st, 2013 #12
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If this account is accurate, then Cronkite was lying by omission. He was leading the viewers to believe that he had seen the film, that CBS News possessed a copy, but that they wouldn't show it because it was too gruesome. He should have said "We cannot show you this film because we don't have it and there is no evidence it exists." There are no credible accounts of anyone having seen this film.
that's an important point. As someone said, a good measure of your intelligence is whether you can tell when someone is lying to you.

The media basically lies everytime they are moving their lips, it's just they are supernaturally gifted at twisting the truth, lying by omission, coloring the truth, 'spinning' the truth, etc, etc, they are all honorary jews, or they just read the virtuoso lying of some jew in Tel Aviv from the teleprompter.

Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf how amazed he was at how good jews are at lying.

"By deception thou shalt wage war" in in the Torah and would be expounded on and elaborated on in the Talmud. One can only imagine how this commandment has been interprettted and implemented by the rabbis.
 
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that is what's so weird about Freemasonry, they say that the upper level fags all lie to the lower level dupes, they are 'hoodwinked' which means they are lied to and kept in the dark.

Now what kind of faggot puts up with that sort of trickery? Only wicked, foolish people who worship power at all costs. They know they are gonna get to spy on other people, get lots of money, get to lord it over everyone else so they don't care what their masters do to them, they would grovel at their feet, suck their dicks, whatever it takes to get an advantage over their own hated race.


That is one hallmark of freemasons, they are all incredible liars. Everything is cloaked in a wall of secrecy, which is really lying by omission.

Secrecy is a form of lying, so our secrecy obsessed government is a deceptive government, full of deceivers. People who are like that are evil people.
 
Old October 21st, 2013 #14
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another thing is, the visual TV images can lie in a million subtle ways the way the jew tongue cannot.

You always see these videos of the landing on Normandy or something, or soldiers running into battle. People believe these videos are actual footage, when obviously they could not possibly be. Unless there was a camera man, standing on the beach at Normandy, while the troops are being mowed down by hundreds of super machine guns.

What this implies is that all these people are fucking actors. Hordes and armies of bullshitting actors, lying to everyone about everything.
 
Old October 21st, 2013 #15
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Why of course it happened exactly as the jews say, Steve. (*sigh* When, oh when, are these people going to stop questioning our beloved benefactors?)

Sheesh! Next thing you know you'll be questioning whether or not Uncle Wolf actually danced that neat little jig of his upon receiving word of France's surrender. What, you think that was looped so as to make him appear looney to the gullible goyim?!

(Man, they let anyone in here... )
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More recently Saddam knew how to perform a purge. He put them in a room, and then had his potential challengers arrested one by one in front of everyone.

Had the Egyptian guy Morsi done the same kind of thing, there probably wouldn't have been a coup that overthrew him. Too late for that though.

It's an interesting bit of footage, showing how raw power gets administered so that a ruler can be free of the threat of a coup. Hussein gathered his potential rivals all in one place and named them one-by-one, so that they wouldn't have an opportunity to later re-group and over throw him. It's all in public so that it shows he not ashamed of it.

 
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I always thought it interesting that they waited until 1944, when the war was clearly turning against Germany, to pull their coup. They enjoyed the run-up of the previous few years but became suddenly concerned when things starting looking down. (Ditto for those "White Rose" kids ... waited until things turned bad to rebel.)

I find Rommel's involvement in the whole plot, and his story, to be the most interesting and tragic part of the narrative. (Look it up on Wikipedia ... take the details with a big grain of salt though, I suspect.)

they were opportunists that wanted to make nice with the allies, to try and get as much of the pie for themselves as they could. As long as Germany was winning, then everything was fine and dandy. But as soon as things turned, then Hitler was a demon. Hitler should of followed Stalins lead and hung his borderline generals, that would of at least spared him the traitors. As another poster said, in some respects Hitler was soft. I really feel he was soft when it came to his generals.
 
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