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Old July 28th, 2010 #1101
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If the wife isn't willing to say publicly that this charge is completely bogus, then something is wrong.



This is exactly what I was thinking. Steele reportedly telling visitors that he can't/won't discuss the case against him for fear of being monitored seems odd to me as well.

If I were the victim of a government frame-up, I would welcome any attempt to have myself visually/audibly recorded declaring my innocence in the most vehement terms.
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It could be Public Choking Syndrome.

What is PCS, you ask? It's when a guy in a busy restaurant gets some food caught in his throat and excuses himself to the restroom, where he promptly dies of asphyxiation, in solitude, with dozens of people mere feet away.

White people are particularly susceptible to this syndrome, in all walks of life.

PCS is alleviated by ceasing all attempts to beat the casino by its own rules. Fantasies of etiquette and decorum must be immediately excised to save the the body and soul.

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Old July 28th, 2010 #1103
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As far as the 'OJ' verdict goes I was somewhat relieved that he was acquitted as I'm certain the niggers would have expressed their niggerly nature.
After a year of trial .It only took the jurors three hours to reach a verdict.
They had a split screen on TV where niggas was celebrating and whites were in dismay as i was surprised as hell.
 
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After a year of trial .It only took the jurors three hours to reach a verdict.
They had a split screen on TV where niggas was celebrating and whites were in dismay as i was surprised as hell.
I remember it as I was standing in the door a jail cell watching the niggers watching the tube. Heard the verdict and went back to reading on my bunk. The niggers that were around me also hooped and hollered like niggers do.
 
Old July 28th, 2010 #1105
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The man who serves as his own attorney has a fool for a client but does a man who's been shot and performs first-aid on himself also have a fool for a patient?
My dad has an 8th grade education from the 1940s and has represented himself in over 20 court battles/ arrests from felony trespass , cattle rustling, and attempted murder ( hate crime). He has never been convicted. I think lawyers like to think that they are the only ones who can defend a person but honestly in many cases the actual defendant is better because they know exactly what happened and can catch the other side in lies.
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I should have prefaced that remark with the qualifier 'They say' or something similar.

I meant for the reader to take it as the shop-worn aphorism that it is not as a legal truism written in stone.

To DEP, I did know that quote had been credited to Lincoln but I had quite forgotten until you reminded me.

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My dad has an 8th grade education from the 1940s and has represented himself in over 20 court battles/ arrests from felony trespass , cattle rustling, and attempted murder ( hate crime). He has never been convicted. I think lawyers like to think that they are the only ones who can defend a person but honestly in many cases the actual defendant is better because they know exactly what happened and can catch the other side in lies.
April has hit the nail on the head. This business about you being a fool to represent your self is a lie perpetrated by scum sucking lawyers to generate business. Someone who is rather stupid may not do too well in court. However the horror stories of people paying for lawyers and getting screwed say that you can't do much worse.

I state Pauly's law again:"Any lawyer that you can afford is not worth having.".
 
Old July 29th, 2010 #1108
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The reported target in an alleged murder-for-hire plot appears to be supporting the main suspect in the case – her husband, former Aryan Nations lawyer Edgar Steele.

Cyndi Steele joined her husband’s supporters Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Coeur d’Alene as Edgar J. Steele, 65, pleaded not guilty to four additional felonies, one of which carries a mandatory sentence of at least 30 years in federal prison.

She spent several minutes talking to her husband’s public defender, Roger Peven, and to her husband’s friends before leaving without speaking to a reporter.

Several of Edgar Steele’s supporters said the case against him is a fraud and called him a “political prisoner” targeted because of his legal work against the federal government.

They pointed to voice impersonation software they say was used to fabricate recordings of Steele discussing the murder plot with Sagle resident Larry Fairfax, who the FBI said wore a hidden recording device after telling investigators of Steele’s plan.
 
Old July 29th, 2010 #1109
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"Cyndi Steele joined her husband’s supporters"
With Cyndi's public stance, Ed's innocence is now beyond a reasonable doubt. Nevertheless, the show trial must go on, with Jew malevolence under color of law exposed, the Kangaroo court tries itself with each byzantine hop.
 
Old July 29th, 2010 #1110
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Federal case a sham, say supporters

Steele pleads not guilty to added plot charges

Meghann M. Cuniff The Spokesman-Review


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The reported target in an alleged murder-for-hire plot appears to be supporting the main suspect in the case – her husband, former Aryan Nations lawyer Edgar Steele.


Cyndi Steele joined her husband’s supporters Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Coeur d’Alene as Edgar J. Steele, 65, pleaded not guilty to four additional felonies, one of which carries a mandatory sentence of at least 30 years in federal prison.


She spent several minutes talking to her husband’s public defender, Roger Peven, and to her husband’s friends before leaving without speaking to a reporter.


Several of Edgar Steele’s supporters said the case against him is a fraud and called him a “political prisoner” targeted because of his legal work against the federal government.


They pointed to voice impersonation software they say was used to fabricate recordings of Steele discussing the murder plot with Sagle resident Larry Fairfax, who the FBI said wore a hidden recording device after telling investigators of Steele’s plan.


But FBI agents say Fairfax failed to tell them about a pipe bomb he’d already planted under Cyndi Steele’s car. Employees at a Coeur d’Alene auto shop found the device June 15 during an oil change.


That pipe bomb led to a new grand jury indictment against Steele that charges him with use of interstate commerce to commission murder for hire, tampering with a victim, use of explosive material to commit a federal felony and possession of a destructive device in relation to a crime of violence, according to federal court documents filed last week. The murder and tampering charges carry a maximum of 10 years in prison each; using an explosive in a felony carries a maximum of 20 years, and the final charge carries a minimum of 30 years in prison.


Fairfax pleaded not guilty to possession of an unregistered firearm and making a firearm in violation of the National Firearms Act, which carry maximum penalties of 10 years in federal prison. He remains in custody.

The victim-tampering charge against Steele stems from a phone call he made to his wife from the Kootenai County Jail, in which he urged her to tell authorities the voice on the recording of the murder-plot discussion does not belong to him.


“No matter what you hear, no matter what you think, no matter what you feel, you have to say the following: ‘No, that is not my husband’s voice,’ ” Steele said. “Then, like a rhinoceros in the road, you have to stand your ground and refuse to say anything but that.”


Prosecutors allege he tried to “intimidate and corruptly persuade” Cyndi Steele during the call, according to the indictment.


Steele has since been transported to the Spokane County Jail. He wore a blue jail jumpsuit during the hearing before Magistrate Candy Dale, who appeared via video from Boise. Steele appeared solemn during the brief hearing, answering Dale’s procedural questions with “Yes, your honor” and “No, your honor.” He shared looks with supporters, including Deon Masker, wife of white supremacist Richard Masker.


Steele has been in custody since a federal raid at his Talache Road home, east of Shepherd Lake near Sandpoint, on July 11.


Steele’s trial is scheduled to begin Aug. 16, but his public defenders recently filed a request for a 60-day extension as they try to stop federal investigators from searching items seized from Steele’s home law office. Steele, well-known for his defense of the Aryan Nations in a high-profile 2000 lawsuit, is concerned government searches may compromise attorney-client privilege and wants the court to stop the searches “until the warrant can be received to determine if proper procedures are in place to protect the privacy of the information seized,” according to documents filed last week.


Prosecutors say they haven’t searched Steele’s files yet and say they are preparing a second search warrant to authorize a team to separate and redact sensitive data “so that investigatory agents will only obtain information relating to this case, and not unrelated attorney-client information from the computers,” according to court documents.


The team will not discuss the confidential information withheld from investigators, prosecutors say.

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Old July 29th, 2010 #1111
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What a wonderful development.

The next step is for Cyndi to prepare a statement for the press. I take it she is not versed in dealing with the media, which is normal and fine. She doesn't have to take any questions. Just read a statement of 3 or 4 sentences, 8 sentences tops.

The very first sentence should be a direct statement of her husband's innocence. Period.

The next one or two sentences should delineate how the government has harmed her, Cyndi Steele. For instance, the Federal Government, in an insane Car 54 Where Are You? set-up:

a) Used a known federal agent and general scumbag Larry Fairfax to plant explosives under her vehicle, which could have killed her,

b) Rendered her beloved home unlivable by wantonly destroying it under the guise of a "search,"

c) During which her family's savings were confiscated, rendering her destitute.

Now comes the counter-attack against the government, which must be made. The government's claim of "intimidation" by husband Ed toward wife Cyndi is designed to work for the US Attorney on multiple levels. First, of course, it's another log on the fire to burn Ed. But it has another role: The charge is designed to silence Cyndi, "the victim," from effectively combatting her own screwing.

How? Well, because she's been "intimidated". She's a poor, long-suffering woman who has come under the spell of the monster Ed. She has Stockholm Syndrome. . .or Battered Woman Syndrome. . .or whatever. She doesn't realize the government is trying to "help her." It's a spin on the same idea behind the "Do you still beat your wife?" joke.

This tactical scheme by the government to twist reality must be nipped-in-the-bud from the start.

Once the crimes of the government against Cyndi Steele are delineated by her, as above, her statement must move into the greatest crime of all perpetrated against her: Her belittlement.

That is, after all that--what amounts to her attempted murder by the government during Ed's frame-up, the destruction of her home, the theft of her savings--after all that, the government has the gall to imply it's "protecting her".

"No thanks!"

Then she can point-out that if the government will do this to her, they'll do it to anyone.

Then she may close with another direct statement of her husband Ed's innocence, and her firm intent to fight this gross--comical if it weren't so deadly serious--miscarriage of justice until her family is once again whole.

Ed Steele has been cast as the spawn of Satan. All the king's horses and men can't put his public perception together again. But Cyndi, by merely accepting the role her tormentors have cast for her, can undercut the government's entire crooked case.

It would be best if she were flanked by her children. And good friends, too, are fine. Formal attire. Direct eye contact. She can do it on the steps in front of the courthouse at the next hearing. If she's a quiet, diminuative sort, she doesn't have to answer any questions, but only she is to speak to the media, and then only on her own points. She must not be consoled by her children as if she were some frail, fragile wisp of a woman. She must lead them away forcefully, though gracefully, Scarlett O'Hara style, a confident, dertermined woman whom all the power of Washington, DC and Boise, ID (not to mention Tel Aviv) will not back down.

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Old July 29th, 2010 #1112
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From what I understand, their family home was trashed and left unsecured. Publishing the street and relationship to the lake, particularly in a character assassination piece, is undoubtedly an invitation to looting and vandalism easily justified by the self-righteous.

Hopefully someone has made an effort to secure the place timely. I'd hope volunteers, with the Steele's permission, were willing to live there and caretake the property, animals, etc.

 
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Other things Cyndi may want to convey in a public statement (if true):

Portray herself as a proprietor a horse breeding farm. Not a timid wife.

Ask where was the FBI and the AG office when her family, specifically her children, were receiving death threat. She should ask "why did the FBI not care about the safety of my family when they were provided recordings of the threats".

Have here mother-in-law also release a statement. It seems that the only thing the mother-in-law has publicly stated up to this point is "keep an open mind" after the initial arrest.
 
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Other things Cyndi may want to convey in a public statement (if true):

Portray herself as a proprietor a horse breeding farm. Not a timid wife.

Ask where was the FBI and the AG office when her family, specifically her children, were receiving death threat. She should ask "why did the FBI not care about the safety of my family when they were provided recordings of the threats".

Have here mother-in-law also release a statement. It seems that the only thing the mother-in-law has publicly stated up to this point is "keep an open mind" after the initial arrest.
Great points.

Re: the horse thing. Great point, too. Not only did the Dept. of Justice steal their savings under color of law, they destroyed their ongoing business in the process.

At all cost avoid the "timid wife" thing, which plays right into the US Attorney's scheme of portraying Ed as an overbearing, intimidating son of Hell.
 
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Must be that the feds take this sort of thing more seriously than Floridians...

300 Years Knocked Off Sex Offender's Sentence

Spioch Convicted Of Molesting Teen, Hiring Hit Man To Kill Witnesses

POSTED: 12:21 am EDT July 23, 2010

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A Central Florida man convicted of molesting a teenager and hiring a hit-man to take out witnesses in his trial who was once sentenced to 315 years behind bars is free after less than two decades.

Thomas Spioch once faced 315 years in prison for sex crimes against a teenage boy and hiring a hit-man to kill witnesses. He's going free at age 52 because a doctor said he's no longer likely to reoffend.

"We look at him as somebody that is dangerous," said prosecutor Julia Lynch.

Although prosecutors believe Spioch is still dangerous, they were forced to inform a judge on Thursday that he no longer qualifies for civil confinement.

Beginning in 1992, Spioch was charged with 29 sex crimes against a teenage boy and then with hiring a man to kill witnesses, including Randy Ball.

"He's a weird guy," said Ball, a former sheriff's detective, in May 1995.

Spioch was convicted and sentenced to 315 years in prison, but an appeal attorney proved he never should have been.

"Mr. Spioch's trial was an abomination," said attorney Kepler Funk.

Because of problems during his trial, Spioch had 300 years knocked off his sentence. He would have gone free in 2007, but the state locked him up under the Jimmy Ryce Law, which puts sex offenders in a secure sort of treatment facility if doctors say they're still dangerous.

Now, a doctor said Spioch is reformed, and Funk said he has served his time.

"How, on one hand, can the government agree to a certain sentence, and then after that sentence come back and lobby the court to keep someone in jail?" Funk said. "I don't think that's fair."

Lynch said to the prosecution, the facts haven't changed.

"Mr. Spioch is a convicted sex offender," she said. "Mr. Spioch is convicted of solicitation of trying to murder people."

Spioch has informed the state that he'll take up residence in Orange County. That address will be published on the state's sex offender registry.

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Presumably this does not include donations to Steele's jail fund in letters directly to him. I read a report that a letter to him containing an American flag sticker was returned to sender. It sounds like that they are using any possible excuse to return his mail undelivered.
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After the 1:30pm Coeur d’Alene court hearing ended, visitors to the hearing and Steele family members had a get-together at a private residence nearby. A number of FES admins were present, and were greatly enthused to hear of donations sent by well-wishers, friends and distant supporters.

Mrs. Cyndi Steele verbally conveyed her heartfelt appreciation for each and every bit of financial (and moral) support. Rather than present a “graphic indicator of fund-raising efforts”, the FES admins wish to say that over $1600.00 has been directly given to the Steele family as of this date.

This is outstanding! Thank you so much for helping to defray the numerous costs and expenses Mr. Steele, his wife and children are faced with!
 
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For those who have not been following the entire thread, this website has been recently proven to be legitimate. However its webmaster is not exactly a world class diplomat. Those who desire proof before contributing money to this website for the Steele family may PM me for same. This is a good first hand report of the latest hearing.

BTW, Cd’A is an abbreviation used by locals to denote Coeur d' Alene.(Heart of an Awl in Frog)
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Coeur d’Alene court hearing observations, 7/28/2010
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On July 28, around 1:20p, pro-Steele visitors began trickling in to the Coeur d’Alene, ID courtroom where a hearing was to be held. More on the reason for the hearing in a moment.
The Federal courtroom was quite large, with computer monitors at locations where the clerk, the judge, the litigants and others directly involved would sit. The tone of the room was exceptionally hushed, as two court ‘ushers’ (in official regalia) hovered at the entrance. The mood was as somber as it was quiet.

Some of us supporters were informed last minute that Mr. Steele might remain in Spokane County Jail, and be present via video conference. At around 1:30pm, Mr. Steele entered the courtroom with his public defender. Mrs. Steele stood alone when her husband entered; after a few moments, she sat. He made repeated – but silent – eye contact with all supporters who were seated along with three family members: Mrs. Steele and their two daughters. Occasionally, he spoke with his public defender.

By 1:50pm, 14 supporters of Mr. Steele had arrived and gathered on one side of the visitor area. There were 7 or so other visitors, 3 court officials. The prosecution team was comprised of 2 men and 1 woman whose backs were to the visitor area.

Quite abruptly and without warning, the courtroom audio crackled to life with the sound of a phone ringing, a woman briefly saying something about “Boise”. The room then fell silent except for the limited whispers between visitors.

At 2:03pm the computer screens snapped on with a visual of a youngish, female judge, along with voices not visible. It became clear the judge for this hearing was in Boise along with some support staff, speaking via teleconference to Cd’A.

(NB: All of the court dialogue recounted here is generally paraphrased from very scant notes.)

In fairly quick succession, the participants were identified, then the judge began the hearing. She indicated this was a hearing to address “superceding indictments”; something was mentioned about bond. She read the first charge of “using interstate commerce for hire to commit murder”, carying penalty of 10 years, $250,000. At this point Mr. Steele interjected that he would “waive formal reading”. The judge quickly replied that she understood, but that he might want to hear all charges first. He acceded.

The judge then went on to list three new charges:

A) use of explosive materials; penalty 10 years, $250,000 + $100,
B) possession of a destructive device: penalty 30 years, $250,000 + $100,
C) tampering with victim: penalty 20 years, $250,000 + $100.
Charge B) above was specified to be consecutively applied to the other charges.

Moving quickly along, these topics were brought up and addressed with Mr. Steele providing responses: awareness of the maximums of penalties, formal reading waived, unable to hire his own attorney, that he qualifies for the public defender. Then a brief discussion regarding assets siezed by the government, confirming certain monies had been returned to Mrs. Steele.

The judge then asked Mr. Steele’s public defender how his plea on the listed charges would be entered; the response was not guilty on all counts. She continued by elaborating right to trial by jury and other rights afforded, and made two particular references to rights specified by the American Constitution. A working date of August 16, 2010, 1:30p in Cd’A for the trial
was announced. Mr. Steele’s public defender indicated they would be requesting a later trial date. Mention was made of another judge possibly ruling on a matter of the case.

The hearing ended at what seemed like no later than 2:45pm. Recess was called and the visitors and the prosecution team filed out, to gather in the hallway leading to the courtroom. Mr. Steele was escorted out the side door of the courtroom and his last glance back was to his wife and family who he made direct eye contact with. His demeanor seemed to be in “neutral” as if in a dream state of not knowing what to do or say.

A reporter was in the hallway and she was engaged by a few of Mr. Steele’s supporters who seemed well versed in the true reasons for Ed’s arrest. The Steele family spoke with visitors, then, for a time, Mrs. Steele spoke with the public defender back in the courtroom. At approximately 3:10pm all parties exited the building.

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Meeting some minutes later at a supporter’s home, many of those in attendence joined together to celebrate Mrs. Steele’s birthday with pizza, a decadent German Chocolate cake and refreshments. We gathered outside in fortunately clear skies to discuss further the hearing just concluded. Besides casual conversation, many present offered their own observations of
the hearing as well as ideas for legal support. Excepting Mr. Steele’s son who was not present, the Steele family is solidly unified and believe in his innocence on all charges. The afternoon wound down as supporters gradually returned home.

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Postscript:

In the CDAPress.com’s 7/29/2010 report on the hearing, writer David Cole claims, “Whelan played in court the conversation she said was between Steele and his wife”. It is this writer’s strong conviction that no such recording (or any recordings, for that matter) was played during the session.

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Here is an extract from the previous post:

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This is quite significant. Cyndi's oldest daughter from a previous marriage has been adopted by Steele. He has reported on his website that said daughter is not fully supportive of his approach to the Jewish Question. If Nicole is supporting Steele when she owes him no biological loyalty, this is an encouraging development.
 
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Larry the Plumber seems to have disappeared from Idaho jails. I couldn't find him in Steele's Spokane jail either.

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FAIRFAX, LAWRENCE ANDREW 03/12/1961 49 Out of Custody Dropped charges Kootenai County Jail
 
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