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Old October 17th, 2016 #1
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Default Derek Black - headline news - Washington Post



The white flight of Derek Black

Derek Black, 27, was following in his father’s footsteps as a white nationalist leader until he began to question the movement’s ideology.

tl:dr - Jew writer gloats about Don Black's son shaming his father.

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Old October 17th, 2016 #2
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I went the other way as I was a liberal who believed "Why can't everyone just get along" in my youth but I now reject everything I believed in my youth.
 
Old October 17th, 2016 #3
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Way back in 1970-1972, I was an open National-Socialist at Hofstra University on Long Island, NY. I hung a Swastika banner in the window of my dormitory room. About 50 percent of the student body was Jewish. Did I have some problems? Sure. But I also had a pretty girlfriend (non-NS), friends among my classmates and a social life.

You have to have a strong personality to be an open National-Socialist or White Nationalist in an anti-NS/WN or non-NS/WN environment. Anti-Whites are not concerned about whether or not they hurt your feelings, so why should you be concerned about whether or not you hurt theirs? If you are overly concerned about whether or not people will like you, you need to find another cause to believe in.

Which is what Derek Black did.
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Old October 17th, 2016 #5
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This is an interesting story.

Parents can be well-meaning and idealistic and dedicate their entire lives to saving the White race.

Just as libtards surround themselves with people who act as an "echo chamber" to reinforce what they believe, we can sometimes do the same to reinforce our idealism. The danger of that is, you may not always get the best feedback or advice:

"Should I make my child a public figure for a 'controversial' cause long before he is an adult or has any ability to legally consent to it?

"We spend endless hours and enormous resources reaching hundreds of thousands of people every week. We get an endless stream of e-mails of people thanking us and telling us we helped red-pill them. Those people go onto to spread our material to those in their circles and racial awareness grows exponentially ...

"By the time he is an adult, it may no longer to be a 'crime' to be proud to be White."


But what if society does not become much more tolerant and accepting in the meantime? Then what?

How are you supposed to get a normal job and establish a career? Marry, buy a house and raise a family? You are always going to be known as that "racist" guy who disagrees with the libtards (capital offense).

As a public skeptic of the sick twisted "ideology" of libtardation, you are often treated worse than a child molester. Unlike child molesters who can get normal jobs and have decent careers after they serve their time, a public critic or skeptic of libtardation may face marginalization, discrimination and even persecution the rest of his life.

Whereas the molester may only scar or destroy the lives of a handful of people, a critic or skeptic of libtardation may threaten an entire belief system of countless millions of people.

How do you escape that? How do you break free? How are you supposed to have a normal life?
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Old October 17th, 2016 #6
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Many years ago I used to listen to the Derek and Don Black show but it was so redundant and negative I had to give it up to protect my sanity.

It wasn't like the funny and interesting Alt Right resources we have today: Daily Shoah, Fash the Nation, Merchant Minute, Murdoch Murdoch, Daily Stormer, InfoStormer, Goyim Goddess, etc. It was mainly "Muh White genocide", decrying racial double standards we are thoroughly aware of and talking about all the bad things that are happening.

Not everyone should do a podcast.

In a perfect world, you won a Gold Medal in the Olympics. You built and sold several successful multi-million dollar companies. You became a best-selling author, a husband and father and have a large family. You survived cancer, traveled the world, patented some new technology with high social utility and even won a seven figure defamation lawsuit against your detractors ...

When you do a podcast, everyone is going to be interested in what you have to say because you have such a profound level of experience and achievement.

I remember listening to Derek on his podcast and thinking this guy sounds like some 20-year old who lives with his parents and never worked a regular job. I have nothing against 20-year old college students - I was once one myself. Nor am I against gloomy, low energy sounding ones as I have known too many. But come on, we can do better than this! I remember the whiny, depressive tonality thinking "there is no way this is going to last for too long". People either burn themselves out from the negativity, change their attitude - or they just flee.

Well, who could have predicted this?

Also, too much "education" is bad for you. It is better to live than to be a bookworm, especially in light of the crippling debt our diploma mills are notorious for imposing.

As far as I know, plenty of other children of public race realist figures go onto live somewhat normal lives without having to bash race realism or make ridiculous statements to the effect the Social Justice Warriors were really right all long. See, it says here in this (((research))) ...
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Old October 17th, 2016 #7
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Many years ago I used to listen to the Derek and Don Black show but it was so redundant and negative I had to give it up to protect my sanity.

It wasn't like the funny and interesting Alt Right resources we have today: Daily Shoah, Fash the Nation, Merchant Minute, Murdoch Murdoch, Daily Stormer, InfoStormer, Goyim Goddess, etc. It was mainly "Muh White genocide", decrying racial double standards we are thoroughly aware of and talking about all the bad things that are happening.

Not everyone should do a podcast.

In a perfect world, you won a Gold Medal in the Olympics. You built and sold several successful multi-million dollar companies. You became a best-selling author, a husband and father and have a large family. You survived cancer, traveled the world, patented some new technology with high social utility and even won a seven figure defamation lawsuit against your detractors ...

When you do a podcast, everyone is going to be interested in what you have to say because you have such a profound level of experience and achievement.

I remember listening to Derek on his podcast and thinking this guy sounds like some 20-year old who lives with his parents and never worked a regular job. I have nothing against 20-year old college students - I was once one myself. Nor am I against gloomy, low energy sounding ones as I have known too many. But come on, we can do better than this! I remember the whiny, depressive tonality thinking "there is no way this is going to last for too long". People either burn themselves out from the negativity, change their attitude - or they just flee.

Well, who could have predicted this?

Also, too much "education" is bad for you. It is better to live than to be a bookworm, especially in light of the crippling debt our diploma mills are notorious for imposing.

As far as I know, plenty of other children of public race realist figures go onto live somewhat normal lives without having to bash race realism or make ridiculous statements to the effect the Social Justice Warriors were really right all long. See, it says here in this (((research))) ...
Agreed.
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Old October 17th, 2016 #8
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Old October 18th, 2016 #9
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Post How the son of infamous white supremacist who was being groomed for leadership turned his back on the movement thanks to an Orthodox Jewish friend at college

By Ariel Zilber For Dailymail.com

Published: 00:57 EST, 18 October 2016 | Updated: 00:57 EST, 18 October 2016

The son of a senior member of the white supremacist movement the Ku Klux Klan turned his back on extremist nationalism when he befriended a Jewish man while in college.

Derek Black, whose father, Don Black, once held the title of grand wizard of the KKK, revealed how his exposure to people of various faiths and ethnicities at New College in Florida pushed him to renounce racism in favor of multiculturalism.

Black's metamorphosis was first reported in an in-depth feature by The Washington Post.

What makes the story all the more remarkable is that Black is the godson of David Duke, the former imperial wizard of the KKK and one of the more prominent white supremacists in the United States.
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Old October 18th, 2016 #10
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Well isn't this just totally uncalled for. A third generation 'racist' converts to being a nigger/faggot/jew lover. I wonder how many liberal nigger/fag/jew lovers have converted to WN after actually being 'exposed' to their culture? The number has got to be in the millions. I was never a nigger lover but I was taught tolerance growing up. I learned intolerance from being around the 'tolerant' crowd. Or, as George Lincoln Rockwell once said:

"Today's liberal intellectuals, who pride themselves on scientific method and being 'broadminded,' are the most narrow-minded, self-righteous, and hate-filled bigots in the history of humanity. No primitive tribe worshipping with its witch doctor was ever more vicious in its hatred and suppression of heretics than today's Marxist intellectuals, anti-racists and liberals."
 
Old October 18th, 2016 #11
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Have any of you thought that maybe the reason Derek turned against WN was because of his parents. The kid was raised to believe that ALL non whites are our enemies, yet saw his mother going to work for a company that helps non white street kids. His father did time for attempting to put a nigger into power in a foriegn country. His mothers first husband, David Duke, along with his own father sold the identities of their fellow Klan members. Derek was raised by criminal hypocrites who have used WN to fund their own lazy lifestyle.
 
Old October 24th, 2016 #12
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This really makes me angry.Why do people keep pointing to ancient HISTORY when speaking in terms of White racial inferiority? The main point is Whites became an advanced civilization- and look at what we achieved once that happened! Something happened that no other non-White civilization ever achieved- the modern industrial revolution. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT!

Even today, White nations are the most technologically advanced and have the highest standards of living. You don't have to be a WN to see the correlation between white genetic determination and development, and non-white genetic determination and stagnation.

I am so sick of this same tired old formula, the Jewish "journalist" Eli Saslow injecting Jewish tribal bias into everything in this article. It's a joke. At least try and be impartial, instead of just insulting our intelligence over and over again.

What could be more of a conspiracy theory than believing IQ disparity has a basis in diet. LOL.

The number of times "Shabbat friends" is mentioned tells you all you need to know about what happened to Derek.

How could anyone believe race was a "false concept"?!

Funny how they keep trying to imply Trump is WN by metioning Black and Trump both have houses in Palm Beach County. Reality check- lots of people have houses in Palm Beach- it being such a sought after reprieve from the cold northern winters.

Poor Derek, looks like he had a bad time coming to terms with his sexuality, I advise you read a bit of Jack Donovan Derek. Also, I suggest you start looking at the White race post Industrial revolution, and stop thinking about the White race in comparison to Ancient cultures.

Your non-White friends love living in the past, because the only way they ever achieved anything was when they were not compared to Whites. Once Whites gained advanced civilization, it was impossible for non-Whites to compare themselves- Whites have out performed non-Whites on all levels. The whole notion of "past" and "present" civilization only comes about because we are living in times so different to those of the past. But guess what? We are still living on the same planet with the same civilizations in one continuous cycle. So pidgeon holing society into "past" and "present" is an oxymoron. More like it should be "before sophisticated white civilization" and "after sophisticated white civilization".

It's almost laughable that anyone would deny White racial exceptionalism and be taken seriously. But it seems to be the mantra of the modern White to deny this is the case- which is just all the more laughable and bizarre.

The whole argument for genetic superiority is what the White race has done with the tools of civilization. Non-white civilizations reached a glass ceiling that they all peaked at, then declined. It's only the White civilization that has given us the "modern" era we live in today- a state of existence completely alien to anything created by other non-White civilizations and is unique in historical terms in that instead of declining, it only continues to advance, higher and higher upwards to a point where now anything seems possible. If that is not proof of some sort of superiority then I don't know what is.

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On the rare occasions when Derek directed conversation during those dinners, it was about the particulars of Arabic grammar, or marine aquatics, or the roots of Christianity in medieval times. He came across as smart and curious, and mostly he listened. He heard a Peruvian immigrant tell stories about attending a high school that was 90 percent Hispanic.
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He had always based his opinions on fact, and lately his logic was being dismantled by emails from his Shabbat friends. They sent him links to studies showing that racial disparities in IQ could largely be explained by extenuating factors like prenatal nutrition and educational opportunities. They gave him scientific papers about the effects of discrimination on blood pressure, job performance and mental health. He read articles about white privilege and the unfair representation of minorities on television news. One friend emailed: “The geNOcide against whites is incredibly, horribly insulting and degrading to real, actual, lived and experienced genocides against Jews, against Rwandans, against Armenians, etc.”

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He was taking classes in Jewish scripture and German multiculturalism during his last year at New College, but most of his research was focused on medieval Europe. He learned that Western Europe had begun not as a great society of genetically superior people but as a technologically backward place that lagged behind Islamic culture. He studied the 8th century to the 12th century, trying to trace back the modern concepts of race and whiteness, but he couldn’t find them anywhere. “We basically just invented it,” he concluded.
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He tried to convince Don for a few hours at the restaurant. He told him about white privilege and repeated the scientific studies about institutionalized racism. He mentioned the great Islamic societies that had developed algebra and predicted a lunar eclipse. He said that now, as he recognized strains of white nationalism spreading into mainstream politics, he felt accountable.
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Don said immigration restrictions sounded like a good start.

Derek said he actually believed in more immigration, because he had been studying the social and economic benefits of diversity.

Don thought that would result in a white genocide.

Derek thought race was a false concept anyway.
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Old October 27th, 2016 #13
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What happened to all those great Islamic mathematicians? I have a mathematics book "Single Variable Calculus Early Transcendentals" by James Stewart (3rd edition). There I see names like: Eudoxus, Euclid, Descartes, Newton, Barrow, Cauchy, Leibniz, Euler, Gauss, Riemann, Fermat, Laplace, Lagrange, Fourier... I didn't see any Islamic/Arabic names. Did I miss some?
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They sent him links to studies showing that racial disparities in IQ could largely be explained by extenuating factors like prenatal nutrition and educational opportunities.
I did some brief reading on Russian aeronautical engineers/designers (Alexander Sergeyevich Yakovlev, Andrei Nikolayevich Tupolev, Sergey Vladimirovich Ilyushin, Oleg Konstantinovich Antonov, Artem Mikoyan, Mikhail Iosifovich Gurevich, Pavel Sukhoi). Some of them grew up very poor. Without a shadow of a doubt, there were tens of millions of Blacks in America, certainly since the so-called Civil Rights movement, who grew up in much better conditions than every one of those Russian aircraft designers. Tens of millions of Blacks had access to free public education and the internet for decades. And yet, I still have not heard or read about an airplane (one that can fly and carry people and cargo) designed and built by an exclusively Black team with no help from Whites. (Does one exist? Show me.) Prenatal nutrition my ass, educational opportunities my ass. Disparities in IQ (with creativity being a characteristic of intelligence) as evidence shows are mostly GENETIC.
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Instead, he’d spent his time catching up on aspects of pop culture he’d once been taught to discredit: liberal newspaper columns, rap music
“Niggas in the church say: kill whitey all night long … the white man is the devil … the CRIPS and Bloods are soldiers I’m recruiting with no dispute; drive-by shooting on this white genetic mutant … let’s go and kill some rednecks … Menace Clan ain’t afraid … I got the .380; the homies think I’m crazy because I shot a white baby; I said; I said; I said: kill whitey all night long … a nigga dumping on your white ass; fuck this rap shit, nigga, I’m gonna blast … I beat a white boy to the motherfucking ground”
“Kill Whitey”; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of what was called Thorn EMI and now is called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.

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Just goes to show what happens when you try to turn your kid into a mini me.
 
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What happened to all those great Islamic mathematicians? I have a mathematics book "Single Variable Calculus Early Transcendentals" by James Stewart (3rd edition). There I see names like: Eudoxus, Euclid, Descartes, Newton, Barrow, Cauchy, Leibniz, Euler, Gauss, Riemann, Fermat, Laplace, Lagrange, Fourier... I didn't see any Islamic/Arabic names. Did I miss some?
There is a distinction between ancient math and modern math. Whites invented modern math. Comparing ancient mathematical achievements to the achievements of modern mathematicians is like comparing apples and oranges- the two are completely different things. Can't emphasize that enough. Whites basically invented a whole new field of mathematics, it's an oxymoron to say they simply elaborated on past achievements.

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I did some brief reading on Russian aeronautical engineers/designers (Alexander Sergeyevich Yakovlev, Andrei Nikolayevich Tupolev, Sergey Vladimirovich Ilyushin, Oleg Konstantinovich Antonov, Artem Mikoyan, Mikhail Iosifovich Gurevich, Pavel Sukhoi). Some of them grew up very poor. Without a shadow of a doubt, there were tens of millions of Blacks in America, certainly since the so-called Civil Rights movement, who grew up in much better conditions than every one of those Russian aircraft designers. Tens of millions of Blacks had access to free public education and the internet for decades. And yet, I still have not heard or read about an airplane (one that can fly and carry people and cargo) designed and built by an exclusively Black team with no help from Whites. (Does one exist? Show me.) Prenatal nutrition my ass, educational opportunities my ass. Disparities in IQ (with creativity being a characteristic of intelligence) as evidence shows are mostly GENETIC.
Really good point! Your asking all the right questions! This really makes me think. Why is nobody else asking these types of questions? Your so spot on it's not funny.
 
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This whole story looks like it was scripted by the Jew and likewise it was all over the Jewsmedia at the same time.

A fake supremacist becomes a fake liberal because he makes more shekels being a Jew asset trying to desmoralize the #teamwhite.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/teamwhite

Derek is only following the steps of his dad but instead of reaping profits from racists he is making a living from the anti-racists.

It wouldn't surprise me that this was a paid interview and he is receiving a pay-check from ADL+SPLC for his dissidence.

Lets be honest the only relevant thing about Derek life is being son of a "White Supremacist", not his liberal college degree, not his ridiculous hat, his girlie hair, his soft hands or his sweet voice.

Having the son of Don Black as an employee might be a nightmare for most employers because of the bad PR and blackmail from the anti-white mafia, so getting a normal job wasn't an option for him.
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What happened to all those great Islamic mathematicians? I have a mathematics book "Single Variable Calculus Early Transcendentals" by James Stewart (3rd edition). There I see names like: Eudoxus, Euclid, Descartes, Newton, Barrow, Cauchy, Leibniz, Euler, Gauss, Riemann, Fermat, Laplace, Lagrange, Fourier... I didn't see any Islamic/Arabic names. Did I miss some?
The Arabs/Muslims weren't all that savvy in mathematics until they invaded Egypt, destroyed the remaining temples, and tortured the priests until they gave up their knowledge.
 
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He had taken budget trips to Barcelona, Paris, Dublin, Nicaragua and Morocco
What about Somalia, Congo and Liberia? Yeah, see what kind of a culture freed slaves and their descendants who were NEVER slaves created in Liberia.
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