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Old July 23rd, 2013 #81
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UKIP’s popular political platform is very simple – OUT of the European Union. Nigel Farage, the Party’s charismatic leader, is demanding Britain’s instant withdrawal from the EU,
So why is he a member of the european parliament and claiming expenses if he hates it that much?

Oh yes lets not forget how he made his money as a hedge fund manager. $$$$
 
Old July 25th, 2013 #82
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Default Tory posters telling illegal immigrants to go home branded 'nasty' by UKIP

The Tory posters warn illegals to 'go home or face arrest':

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mmigrants-home
 
Old July 26th, 2013 #83
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I really don't get UKIP THERE VIEW ON immagrants is weird to say the lest!
If someone from out side the UK comes to the UK has a kid that kid is British in the eyes of UKIP bloody joke
 
Old August 6th, 2013 #84
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Pretty soon they'll have to put a sign above the doors of the Houses of Parliament: "Must have studied PPE at Oxbridge, be worth at least £500,000 and led a life of little consequence or excitement."

Why do our political class look, feel and sound much the same? Not just because they largely follow the same doctrine of status-quo social democracy built on British decline and increasing national debt. It's also because the individuals themselves are grey matter, headhunted and promised protection and advancement in return for grovelling obedience . In other words, political robots with the words "Made in Westminster" stamped on their foreheads.

Some might think it refreshing that a new party that has burst on to the scene – and that it contains patriotic political novices who are encouraging their fellow citizens to become politically active. Instead, Ukip candidates who have strayed from the party line or said dodgy things (sometimes in the distant past) are being put under the type of scrutiny from national media that candidates in other parties would never face.

The classic example must be Martyn Heale, someone who regrets having joined the National Front decades ago. Heale was never attacked when he stood in elections for the Conservative Party; he was a Tory party member for 20 years. Yet suddenly his past is a weapon with which to attack Ukip. Note also that this is also the only party in British politics to ban former BNP members from joining, while several of Nick Griffin's former allies have been Labour candidates and councillors. Funny that you never hear about that.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/mi...e-war-on-ukip/

Not really *that* funny. The NF and BNP don't pose a threat to the status quo, so no need to attack them. Meanwhile the media pushed everyone toward UKIP in another circular voting exercise and this is the result. The attack message is a not-so-subliminal "get out and vote or the UKIP narzees will win".
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Old August 7th, 2013 #85
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Ukip MEP Godfrey Bloom shrugs off condemnation after demanding that Britain stops sending money to 'Bongo Bongo Land'

But Godfrey Bloom shrugs off criticism saying his remarks would 'probably double my vote in the north of England'

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A Ukip MEP caught on camera demanding Britain stop sending money to "Bongo Bongo Land" has shrugged off condemnation and said it would "probably double my vote in the north of England".

Godfrey Bloom's comments about Britain's foreign aid contributions, much of which he said were spent by the recipients on flash cars and sunglasses, are now under scrutiny by the Ukip leadership and provoked outrage among political opponents.

Rushanara Ali, a shadow development minister, called on Ukip leader Nigel Farage to take action against Mr Bloom and was reported as saying: "It's just offensive and the kind of thing that should have been consigned to the history books.

The MEP made the remark about "Bongo Bongo Land" at a meeting in Wordsley in the West Midlands when he told supporters he couldn't understand why Britain gave foreign aid when it needed the money itself.

"How we can possibly be giving a billion pounds a month when we're in this sort of debt to bongo bongo land is completely beyond me," he said in the footage obtained by the Guardian.

"To buy Ray-Ban sunglasses, apartments in Paris, Ferraris and all the rest of it that goes with most of the foreign aid. F18s for Pakistan. We need a new squadron of F18s. Who's got the squadrons? Pakistan, where we send the money."
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at least he's refusing to grovel
 
Old August 7th, 2013 #88
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So far FYC, but see what happens over the next week or so
 
Old August 8th, 2013 #89
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If they had really wanted to destroy this MEP, they could also have brought up his recent comments in Brussels for which he was thrown out of the European Parliament. This plus the "bongo bongo" comment would have made for a good front page spread.

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Martin Schulz, a German social democrat previously taunted by the Italian prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, as being "perfect" for the role of Nazi concentration camp guard, was criticising the EU's attempts to bail out Ireland when a British MEP interrupted to call him a "Euro nationalist".

"Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer," [one people, one nation, one leader] yelled Godfrey Bloom, the UK Independence party's MEP for Yorkshire and North Lincolnshire, using the Nazi slogan to insult the leader of the European socialists in the Strasbourg chamber.

MEPs were appalled. Jerzy Buzek, the Polish president of the European parliament, demanded that Bloom apologise and retract his remarks.

But the Ukip MEP said: "The views of Herr Schulz make the case. He is an undemocratic fascist."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-godfrey-bloom




Instead, we get articles like this:

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If Godfrey Bloom's use of the phrase 'bongo bongo land' seems like it belongs in the past, then that's because it does. Anyone familiar with British politics from the last 30 years will recall the furore Alan Clark, a right wing Conservative minister, caused when he was exposed for using the same insult in 1985.

Clark, who was commenting on black groups feeling uneasy about the collection of data on ethnic minorities, reportedly said, "They are afraid we'll be going to hand them over to the immigration services so that they can send them all back to Bongo Bongo land."


Alan Clark Silent Published in the Guardian on 7 February 1985. Click on image to read in full

As a junior employment minister with some responsibility for race relations, Clark's initial decision to keep silent following the publication of his comments in Searchlight magazine was met with incredulity. When the minister did speak, he only inflamed the situation by dismissing his 'off the record' comments as being a 'storm in a teacup.'

Clark's critics called for him to be sacked, but within a year he had been promoted to Minister of State at the Department of Trade and Industry. At around the same time, reports were emerging that the National Front were using the same language as Alan Clark to target their opponents.

Although widely understood to be a traditionally racial slur with strong links to colonial supremacy, Clark later claimed that he didn't recall his bongo bongo comment, saying that it was probably said in a private meeting, but when pressed he said "it sounds uncomfortably familiar."

Much admired by Margaret Thatcher - who plucked him from the back benches to become a high flying minister - Clark survived the race storm, almost playing on his straight talking reputation right until the end of his political career.
http://www.theguardian.com/theguardi...oom-clark-alan

So why aren't they attacking him with more venom? I mean, they're making enough fuss about the "bongo bongo" which has distracted most people from the actual point he was making, but what's it all about, Call-Me?

Well, it's opened up a nice little opportunity for him to give the voters a reason to support foreign aid. How on earth could he possibly accomplish that?


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We give money to Africa to stop 'them' coming here, says Cameron



DAVID CAMERON today appealed to traditional Tory voters who share the views of Godfrey 'Bongo Bongo' Bloom by admitting that there is a pragmatic reason for pouring billions of pounds into overseas aid when the rest of the UK budget is subjected to slash-and-burn austerity cuts. It's intended to stop "them" - Africans - turning up "here" - in Britain - as illegal immigrants.
Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/54...em-coming-here

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That vile little cunt George gAllahway has waded in:

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u...mments/?ref=mr
 
Old August 18th, 2013 #91
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Question Nigel Farage suggests 'violent' revolution against Brussels could be only way for stubborn EU nations to save their demo

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...evolution.html Nigel Farage suggests 'violent' revolution against Brussels could be only way for stubborn EU nations to save their democracies

Ukip leader says suffering in Mediterranean had reached 'crisis point'
Compares emergency powers adopted by EU leaders to Hitler's Germany
Speaking in interview with controversial U.S. radio host Alex Jones


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Old August 27th, 2013 #93
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Lord Pearson, the UKIP leader in the House of Lords is sponsoring a bill to decriminalise the non-payment of the licence fee and getting support in some sections of the media .

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THE BBC was responsible for almost one in eight criminal prosecutions in magistrates’ courts in England and Wales last year, as it pursued defaulters who had failed to pay the Poll Tax of the Airwaves – the Corporation’s obsolete and indefensible £145.50 licence fee.

Overall, 12 per cent of prosecutions were instigated by the BBC. Who paid the costs of so much legal activity? The taxpayer, of course.

The total expense involved in this tyrannical exercise is incalculable, as is the damage inflicted on the criminal justice system by more than 180,000 prosecutions in a single year. Convictions totalled 155,000, but 26,745 cases failed. The Corporation will plead that it needs the money, which is true: 412,000 licence fees have been used to award £60m in payoffs to BBC executives since 2005, averaging more than £164,000 per recipient, with some being given more than £1m. The salaries of those who have not departed remain a public scandal.

Why should non-payment of a licence fee be a criminal offence, unlike defaulting on an electricity or gas bill? Why should members of the public have a criminal record imposed upon them by a clapped-out broadcaster, itself mired in criminality, as the Savile scandal revealed? This totalitarian privilege feeds the BBC’s narcissistic perception of itself as an arm of the state. At least 70 people have 
been imprisoned in recent years for 
non-payment of licence fees: they are the political prisoners of the BBC. The Corporation makes great propagandist play, on every possible occasion, of promoting “women’s rights”. Yet two-thirds of those prosecuted as licence defaulters are women; in the classic profile they are single mothers.

Part of the BBC’s leftist baggage is an ostentatious commitment to feminist causes; yet the report by Dinah Rose QC on bullying at the Corporation described a “strong undercurrent of fear”, including 37 cases of alleged sexual harassment over the past six years; 140 complaints of bullying brought by staff are still under investigation. The Corporation is the principal cheerleader for the leftist consensus. Its political bias is blatant, unashamed and axiomatic. At a BBC seminar as long ago as 2006, Andrew Marr disarmingly observed that the Corporation “is not impartial or neutral. It’s a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. It has a liberal bias, not so much a party political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias.”

Last week, Lord Hall, director-general of the BBC, at a salary of 3,103 licence fees, told an audience at the Edinburgh International Television Festival that it would be difficult for the Corporation to maintain impartiality during the independence referendum: “It is in almost anything that we do. You’re struggling all the time to be impartial.” Happily, Lord Hall had found a solution: “Jim Naughtie is coming to broadcast from Scotland to all of the UK on Radio Four and really be ‘Mr Referendum’.” That is reassuring: James Naughtie is a byword for impartiality (BBC style), as he memorably demonstrated on the Today programme, on 2 March, 2005, when he asked: “If we [sic] win the election, does Gordon Brown remain Chancellor?”

The BBC’s institutional bias in its presentation of the opinions of think tanks has just been analysed in a report by the Centre for Policy Studies. The Corporation put “health warnings” in the form of the prefix “right-wing” before reporting the views of right-of-centre organisations between 23 per cent and 61 per cent of the time, whereas left-of-centre bodies were only given such labels between 0 per cent and 12 per cent of the time.

There is no institution in Britain more damaged than the BBC. Its monumental incompetence caused the abandonment of its Digital Media Initiative (DMI); few observers believe the cost will be as low as the admitted £100m – or 687,285 licence fees. Its pompous mantra of “public service broadcasting” is a euphemism for Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand obscenely taunting Andrew Sachs; it took the enforced contributions of 123,711 licence fee helots to fund Ross’s massive BBC contract.

Lord Pearson, the Ukip leader in the House of Lords, has introduced a Bill to decriminalise non-payment of licence fees; it is unlikely to succeed, but the electorate will note which party is standing up for its interests, as opposed to the three consensus parties, which share the doctrinaire liberal worldview of the BBC. In an era of globalised communications, the notion of the BBC acting as gatekeeper to more than 200 rival television channels is ludicrous. It puts the Corporation up there with the Beijing internet censors. The BBC is long past its sell-by date and needs to be dismantled. As an urgent preliminary, the licence fee must be abolished.
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In my opinion the decriminalising of non payment would be the end of the BBC and UKIP know this .

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it is unlikely to succeed, but the electorate will note which party is standing up for its interests, as opposed to the three consensus parties, which share the doctrinaire liberal worldview of the BBC.
The BNP need to jump on this wagon quick , not long ago a poster here on VNN pointed out that such a campaign was needed it's a win win policy . Nobody likes paying the bloody BBC tax ( we should refer to it as a tax not a licence fee ) How much court time and money is being taken up collecting this tax for the BBC , "one in eight criminal prosecutions" ..... "180,000 prosecutions in a single year" time to take the BBC down .
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Old August 27th, 2013 #94
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I think I suggested this to Nick Griffin when I was active with the party. He didn't seem to like it I recall because it might put-off potential middle-class supporters from joining the party.

You are correct, it would be a win-win for any party campaigning on this issue. It would also be a big publicity winner. It may only be £145 a year, but for some people, £145 is a lot of money they can't afford to pay.
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They really need to start taking politics seriously again. Whilst UKIP are hitting key notes with the public, the biggest Nationalist organisation is championing the right to walk through a Muslim area whilst dressed in a mankini.

Although two liberals have been cured, this is not good:

 
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They're not talking about abolishing the TV licence tax. They're talking about changing the law so licence evasion is handled as a civil matter (similar to failure to pay utility bills or parking fines), rather than a criminal matter. It would just mean that being taken to court would not be the first step, it would be the third or fourth step. You'd still have to pay.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...urt-cases.html

Or you could scrap your TV, and free your mind of its poisonous, soul destroying indoctrination



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Or you could scrap your TV, and free your mind of its poisonous, soul destroying indoctrination


How do they know you have a TV and that you are watching their cultural poison?
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How do they know you have a TV and that you are watching their cultural poison?
They wait in a 'detector' van outside your house to see if an immigrant delivers pizza.
 
Old August 28th, 2013 #99
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hopefully soon, the tv licence tax will be stopped by the EU. it will be the only benefit its even done for the british people
 
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Allthough I agree the licence fee should be scrapped you have to ask yourself something. Are ITV, Channel 4, Sky or any of the others much better?

The only exception is RT and that is mostly news. Lemmings want mindless entertainment and that's where the brainwashing is.
 
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