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There are two articles from Racial loyalty who had been part of book "On The Brink Of Bloody Racial War" I think that this book is really important for WN probably most important who every White must read,really powerful articles are there however I am going to focus you for this two articles who started on pages between 114-115. This articles I reccomend to all National-Socialist for see the difference between Creativity and NS.

http://www.yumpu.com/en/document/rea...ivity-alliance

Note: I fully have distance from Creativity movement and Creativity Alliance because nobody do not follow Klassen as he wanted,Pontefix Maximus did not have age between 20-30 nor they ever was well organized so this is reason why they fall because of negative selection within such movement and organization disability however Ben is the most interesting WN who I ever read because he created an atheist religion and had really long political expirience and school of life as high educated White person,he was also inventor. He was pioneer of White Nationalism with his White Nationalist Party became religious organization after rejecting Christianity,he tried to defent Christianity in his letters (see Klassen letters Vol1) however he was under attack of pro-white Christians and saw how he must finally reject such religion as Menonite who are part of one Amish group what mean that he grow in radical Christian family.
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esoteric hitlerism of Miguel Serrano is another way to go...but creativity is fine also
 
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Read Racial Loyalty 22 about fictitious concepts and game between god and devil. Serrano just recognize god from the jewish Bible,Klassen rejected them both.
I remembered when my brain was polluted by various type of spirits and after I has been talked with physicists I knew what it really is and Klassen did not explain that on right way. In the nature rule different type of energies who theists call as spirits but that is in reality II Law of thermodynamics what mean that we do not die after we finnished our life on that planet than our energy changed her form who is eternal according to Law of conservation of energies so that is the real resurrection who Klassen called as eternal laws of nature.

http://creativityalliance.com/eBook-...Creativity.pdf

Serrano think that have some contact with spirit,Klassen also had contact with spiritual god see Racial Loyalty 42 and started to play games like other spiritual prophets. This is an example how religion somene sell story that he is special guy with bless on unexisted spirit and recruit their uneducated followers. So Klassen just made jokes on that and say that if Jesus can be special guy or Serrano on that case,then he can be also that with God bless.

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/rahowa.pdf
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I've always been a fan of Klassen's work. From what I've observed of the Christians I think the average Christian might consider Creativity rather heretical. As a Pagan I don't see it holding much religious appeal for polytheists. And although I cannot imagine what my life would have been like without it, it is possible to do without religion altogether.

While the objection to Christianity on the basis of it's Jewish roots is perhaps understandable, Christianity actually has very little in common with modern day Rabbinical Judaism. Christianity is based on the older Messianic Apocalypticism and had already separated from the rest of Judaism long before Rabbinism came to dominate.
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Well Klassen wanted that we celebrate the seasons not through spiritual look as pagans than through natural process because pagan did not know nothing about it before the new discoveries where Darwin and White physicists explained lot of that there is no gods,no spirits. There are energies and forces what Klassen called as eternal laws of nature.

According to Creativity we are not in 2020. than in 47. year because publising of Natures Eternal Religion was New era as Christians established their New era with born of Christ. Klassen had same oppinion about paganism as Hitler,that such religion is failed eperiment because pagans losed over Christianity.
Klassen also went step forward and said that is National-Socialism also failed experiment because of his defeat. Of course that are Christianity and Judaism opposed religion but you must look on separation as long plan of judaism who exist thousands of years and they still work through their plan what means domination over the world who must kneel under their lord in the name of pax judaica.

So Rabbinism dominated because of Christian trap who is same as Trojan horses trap,keep in mind that is Jesus also Rabbi who put king Solomon temple direct in mind of goy after Romans destroyed him physical. It does not mean if is that Temple visible or not,it is only important that is he installed direct in goys brain over Christianity who burned Rome,declared Roman rulers as beasts for example Nero in Revelation was represented as 666 what is number of Emperor of the Sun and that Rome must be burned what Chrisdians did when they burned this Empire. It reminds me on Bolshavik revolution later and also on burning Reichtag.

Btw interesting is how were intelligent Nordic mythology who said all what science said about ending of the world in Ragnarök,it is offical
physicists interpretation where will our space explode and we will have chaos in the universe,however humans will be die what it would be happen however we have 5 billion years of living in on our only Planet Earth. I am really thankful to Klassen for escape me from the hands of judaism that I can have peace in my mind and clear situation for organizing me as much as I want and can,it is much better word than Christian period in my life however I am not Creator offically than libertarian as you can see what is an opposite to them.
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In the nature rule different type of energies who theists call as spirits but that is in reality II Law of thermodynamics what mean that we do not die after we finnished our life on that planet than our energy changed her form who is eternal according to Law of conservation of energies so that is the real resurrection who Klassen called as eternal laws of nature.
This is a wildly inaccurate description of the Second Law of Thermodynamics which addresses the total entropy of an isolated system. As well the Law of Conservation of Energy states that in an isolated system the total energy remains constant (i.e., it is conserved over time). The 'energy' doesn't signify a living organism.
Our physical bodies are in no way isolated systems. And while the energy of our physical matter is conserved the total does not remain constant within the system, which in this instance is the body. Much of the energy is converted, by the various bacteria and organisms, through decay, etc.
Just as an ear of corn is not alive after being harvested but still has energy which is conserved when we convert it to other forms (e.g., heat, etc.).
To suggest that any part of Thermodynamics (or any scientific principle for that matter) means "we do not die" is asinine in the extreme.
The wholly corporal energy that is the subject of Thermodynamics is quantifiable, completely physical in nature, having no association with consciousness. Such aspects are contrary to those of the spiritual energy that is the province of religion. Science and religion are fundamentally different with fundamentally different concerns. Neither pursuit will benefit from mangling the two together.
Our capacity and inclination for religion is an innate part of our humanity. It is uniquely human. Even religion's detractors cannot deny its awesome power. There's no need to seek legitimacy for it, particularly where it is least likely to be found.
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Science and religion are fundamentally different with fundamentally different concerns.
Not if you from science make religion. I am going to put you just one example,Freemasonry do not allow atheists in their organization because they belive in the Great Arhitect of The Universe and have their spiritual ceremonies so this is not science organization nor as it is Scientific Curch with science fixtion storyes. I can reccomend to you A Revolution of Values Through Religion where Klassen compared all main religions with atheist Creativity. It means that nobody can not be against eternal laws of nature and who want to try be,it would result with natures punnishment. However I agree with you that lot of people can not accept atheism and see reality on the world so they must have some kind of spiritualism such as Cosmotheism by William Pierce or WOTANISM by David Lane does not matter how it is irrational.
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Not if you from science make religion. I am going to put you just one example,Freemasonry do not allow atheists in their organization because they belive in the Great Arhitect of The Universe and have their spiritual ceremonies so this is not science organization nor as it is Scientific Curch with science fixtion storyes. I can reccomend to you A Revolution of Values Through Religion where Klassen compared all main religions with atheist Creativity. It means that nobody can not be against eternal laws of nature and who want to try be,it would result with natures punnishment. However I agree with you that lot of people can not accept atheism and see reality on the world so they must have some kind of spiritualism such as Cosmotheism by William Pierce or WOTANISM by David Lane does not matter how it is irrational.
Tell me in what meaningful way would a Religion of Science differ from secular science? What practices would distinguish it as religious? I think if a religion could be made of science It would have been done long ago. Certainly there have been attempts to create religions based on pseudo-science.
Freemasonry is not a religion. It is a social fraternal organisation. Some of their activities involve allegory, loosely based on or borrowing characters from Christian mythology, but they never seem to have any spiritual motive.
Atheism of course, is not a religion or even a belief. Atheism signifies the absence of a belief. I have read all of Klassen's work. If Creativity is a religion then it is more relevant than any religion has ever been. It does rather seem the he removed the religion and replaced it with something more pertinent. At any rate, he is not concerned with the supernatural or anything of the 'spirit realm'. Where he uses terms such as 'sin' it is not in the usual sense.


But my point was not to explore to what extent semantic gymnastics can stretch the term 'religion'. My point was that one shouldn't mix the supernatural with science and specifically that the assertion that thermodynamics supports the notion of human immortality is entirely incorrect.
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Tell me in what meaningful way would a Religion of Science differ from secular science?
Science can not be separated but anyway I am going to answer on your question on next way: power of atheist religion is that she is according to science Charles Darwin (Never look through eye of snake White Man's Bible Credo2) and Francis Galton (Civilization without racial religion-just destructive process for the White race also from White man's Bible) what mean that nobody do not have any kind of argument to be against it. It is not religion as Scientific Curch who use unexistid fictions for confusing Whites like Matrix,Zeitgeist. My point is that energy mean "spirit" with Law of conservation of energy who because of II Law of termodinamics when we die just changed her form and this is not "supernatural". For example William Pierce as physicist such Law of conservation energy called also as "spirit" and created Cosmotheism but it is not scientific explanation of our path who Klassen also forgot to mention and said that in nature rule "Eternal Laws of Nature" well yes but what does it mean with look of science? It mean that we on the world can look through forces or through energies. Because I spoke with academic people who are professors on colleges,there is not reason why I would not belive to them however they do not hear for Creativity of course. I am going to put last good article who is in harmony with that post and it is "Life,death and immortality" in White Man's Bible. So they are for now my top four articles by Klassen on this topic because that members here do not must read all what spends lot of time. For people who do not want read books it is enough to read Little White Book what is short explanation of Creativity and chatechism of that religion.
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This is another powerful chapter from White Man's Bible Credo 63

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Nature Never Subsidizes Adults. We go back to the Laws of Nature, the original source of all wisdom and good sense. We find that among the birds, bees, and animals charity is pretty well limited to nurturing and aiding the young offspring (only their own!) until they are capable of fending for themselves. A mother bear will nurse its cubs, will teach them how to escape
danger, scrounge for food, recognize its enemies and many other basics. The cubs love this situation of mother providing all, taking all responsibility. By the time they are two years old, the cubs are almost full grown. They have become freeloaders and overly dependent on mother, and they like it that way. They haven’t the slightest inclination of changing their life-style.
Mother Bear Knows Best. Mother bear, who instinctively is programmed to perpetuate the
species, knows that the time has come for her cubs to shift for themselves. Although it is perhaps an emotional trauma for her, she does what she must. She sends her cubs up a tree as she has often trained them to do in times of danger. When, after a while, they start to come down, she growls at them repeatedly and tells them to stay up there. Deliberately, she leaves
them up a tree and walks out of their lives forever.
On Their Own. Finally, the cubs come down, but mother is gone. They are hungry, but mother is not there to nurse them, nor find berries. They are on their own for the first time.

Necessity Best Motivator. Initially, this is a major crisis for the young bears. But as hunger prevails, they start to search for food, and, after considerable effort, find, to their surprise, that they are capable of coping with the situation without mother. They rapidly develop into capable,
self-sufficient adult bears, ready to find mates and get on with the job of bringing in the next generation.

Aid Stops at Maturity. In one way or another, this process is followed by every species in Nature. We know that birds build nests, lay eggs, are extremely conscientious in protecting that nest, keeping the eggs warm, and finally, when they hatch, they spend every waking hour bringing food— worms, insects, etc. — to their young hatchlings. When the latter are old
enough to fly their nest, however, the parent birds more than nudge— they literally push them out of the nest and urge them to learn to fly on their own.
Such is the logical sequence of Nature. Aid and nurture the fledglings until they are capable of taking care of themselves. Then all aid stops.
Are you ready left your parental home,take care for yourself,find partner and build house for your future children to thirty year? It is practice in Germany,Denmark that young people left their homes between 20-30 year and I somewhere read that parents from USA sued their child because he stay in home after 30. For example on Balkan you have situation that in one house live three generations and it is really strange when you tell someone how you want to live your parental house. What is situation in other states? Do exist such practice for living with three generations just on Balkan or in other states too? I strongly support oppinion that young people must left their homes when they have max 30. year.
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