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Steele is sane and was framed by the ADL and the government. | 2 | 14.29% | |
Steele is sane and was not framed. | 3 | 21.43% | |
It is not possible to know if he is crazy or was framed. | 6 | 42.86% | |
Steele is playing crazy and was not framed. | 0 | 0% | |
Steele is completely crazy and was framed. | 0 | 0% | |
Steele is completely crazy and was not framed. | 3 | 21.43% | |
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I am not very interested in what Pauly says about Cyndi Steele. Thanks for admitting that Steele showed horrendously bad judgment over and over, which should in itself have been grounds for getting his head examined, especially given his recent medical history.
I remember when Jim Giles was talking to an attorney about the Steele case and he told him about the phone-call from prison wherein he tried to instruct Cyndi Steele on what to say. This attorney's reaction was basically, Omg! Steele was doing something incredibly foolish that he as an attorney should have known was going to bring a charge of witness-tampering. Why did he do it anyway? Some form of diminished capacity (particularly in regard to self-control) would be a good explanation. What would be a "sign of insanity" to you, Bev? Does he have to claim that he's Napoleon? The guy that was turned queer by a stroke wouldn't be counted as insane by current standards either. He can speak perfectly well, too, but the trauma definitely affected him. If being queer were a crime in the UK I would recommend a medical defense for him, just as for Steele and his desire to kill his wife and mother-in-law.
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You should be. It's a large part of his claim.
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I would expect consistent behavioural changes - and this is the crucial part - since the aorta burst - and there have been no such reports from anyone who knows him, only from internet post-mortemists. I would have expected a different manner on the interview I saw. I would not have expected it to be much the same as pre-aorta interviews.
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If Steele claimed to be Napoleon, it would not be proof that he was insane. It is certainly possible for Napoleon to be reincarnated in him. Admittedly, it could be grounds to have his head examined.
Him claiming that he was investigating a Ukrainian bride scam is proof that he is insane. After his near divorce, no mental examination is required. I just wrote Steele's daughter Kelsey and his son Rex to have them take the poll and join us. Rex doesn't have an account on VNN Forum yet but I told him to sign up. Kelsey has an account. They can tell us lots of things about his sanity. Cyndi is pouting and won't answer my letters these days. The prospect of her having to get a job does not please her. |
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I invented the medical interpretation of Steele's actions way back in June 2010 and I can assure you that Donald Pauly had no part in it. Pauly is a latecomer. I do not have to discuss Pauly or his views. It is Pauly who is here discussing my view, plus a lot of views of his own that are not essential to the basic question of how to explain as simply and reasonably as possible the charge against Ed Steele. I think the psychiatric explanation is the answer to that question.
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Or are you relying on paying your own shrink to make a judgment?
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Missed this bit.
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I have no dog in this fight, I just have not seen enough to make me believe he was/is insane. I in fact suggested "chemo brain" seeing as it's a real condition, not an anecdotal, uncharted one, and went looking for video of him to see if he was suffering from that. He wasn't. I've filtered through all the insults and spin in the other thread and found nothing to convince me. Exact science? A list of heavily spun assumptions and opinions that you refuse to be drawn on?
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It's a HELL OF A LOT MORE LIKELY than what Steele himself called his "Mission Impossible" story.
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I've seen two or three anecdotal posts elsewhere on the internet from people who claim the same thing, but you need more than that in a courtroom. It is straw-grasping to claim that Cyndi's behaviour, years before Steele's illness, is proof that Steele is mad. Actually, no. That's not straw-grasping. That's downright stupidity.
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Again, you distort the issue.
Previously you changed the question of what is reasonable to expect from Ed Steele to what is reasonable to expect from "people" (since you understood that Steele's behavior was not in order given who he is) and now you present the strawman that exercising the normal prudence of an experienced attorney means being "infallible." Your eristic is tedious.
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You find logical disputation tedious? How bizarre. Well, good luck in court when the prosecution begins ripping your "invented" defence to shreds.
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Where Has Bev Been?
Had you read the thread, you would know that Steele's head had been examined by the government in jail and the results were never released. The Steele camp has those results and is hiding them. I am trying to get them. Both sides want to keep the fact that Steele went crazy from the public.
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