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He was a nuclear physicist by training, but largely worked the greater share of his adult life as an audio commentator and essay writer, much like his nemesis Harold Covington does today.
What an ego. Can't resist mentioning your own name, which would otherwise soon be forgotten.

Pierce was a great man. Why don't you create something of equal worth in your lifetime?
 
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Rule #127 of Internet WN forums:

.The only person who brings up Harold Covington is Harold Covington.
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From a practical perspective Strom is all done and needs to sever all public involvement with WN activism. If Will Williams can't find another podcast technician to replace Strom he doesn't have what it takes to lead a WN organization.

If Williams continues to associate with Strom in ten years the new NA, if it exists, will be in worse condition than it was under the previous failed management.

You can take that to the bank.
I'm puzzled by the association Williams maintains with The Rape Dungeon™ & its proprietor, convicted geriatric sex offender Stan "FEDZOG COCKSUCKER" Diggs.

That's a lot of flabby rapist baggage to get off the ground.
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Rule #127 of Internet WN forums:

.The only person who brings up Harold Covington is Harold Covington.
Having violated the first rule of Fight Club, I really should resist the urge to prance any further on this high horse.

It's tough, though:


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Old January 30th, 2015 #45
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Heritage and Destiny Interviews Will Williams

New Leader of National Alliance featured in British publication

by Mark Cotterill; December 30, 2014

HERITAGE AND DESTINY is pleased to announce that long-standing White nationalist – Will White Williams – has taken over as Chairman of the US-based National Alliance (NA).

H&D editor Mark Cotterill first met Mr. Williams way back in November 1993, when he visited the National Alliance’s then-new West Virginia headquarters in Hillsboro for the first time. Mark and another comrade from Milton Keynes were the very first Brits to visit Dr. Pierce out at Hillsboro, since he moved the NA from its previous Washington DC-area HQ.

H&D’s assistant editor Peter Rushton worked with Mr. Williams in organising Dr. Pierce’s successful visit to England in 1995, when he addressed the BNP’s annual rally (even though he had been banned from entering the UK!).

Mr. Williams replaces the disgraced former NA Chairman Erich Gliebe – a close friend of the BNP’s former Chairman Nick Griffin. Both Gliebe and Griffin almost destroyed the NA and BNP and turned them from being two of the most successful White nationalist groups in the world, to barely more than a laughing stock. Griffin was removed as BNP chairman earlier this year, and expelled from the party a couple of months later.

With the removal of both Gliebe and Griffin, White nationalists on both sides of the pond can for the first time in many years look forward to the New Year with hope and optimism.

H&D wishes Will Williams all the very best in rebuilding the National Alliance and we will keep readers informed of their progress.

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I'm puzzled by the association Williams maintains with The Rape Dungeon™ & its proprietor, convicted geriatric sex offender Stan "FEDZOG COCKSUCKER" Diggs.

That's a lot of flabby rapist baggage to get off the ground.
There's no puzzle. Williams has no standards. He'll work with any lowlife that'll follow him.
 
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There's no puzzle. Williams has no standards. He'll work with any lowlife that'll follow him.
I've known Will for almost a year now, and I've gotten to know him well through our correspondence and the many long phone conversations we've had. So I can tell you with confidence that he is a generous kind-hearted man, who cares deeply for his people and is a passionate patriot. But his kindness should not be mistaken for weakness -- he does not shy away from any challenge and is ready to make the tough decisions that need to be made; just the type of man to lead the Alliance.
 
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I've known Will for almost a year now, and I've gotten to know him well through our correspondence and the many long phone conversations we've had. So I can tell you with confidence that he is a generous kind-hearted man, who cares deeply for his people and is a passionate patriot. But his kindness should not be mistaken for weakness -- he does not shy away from any challenge and is ready to make the tough decisions that need to be made; just the type of man to lead the Alliance.
So do you think convicted sex-offender Diggs would be eligible for the new Alliance membership?

Because standards are important.
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So do you think convicted sex-offender Diggs would be eligible for the new Alliance membership?

Because standards are important.
Yes, you're correct, standards are important, so no, someone like Diggs would not be eligible for membership based on his record.

Lest I be accused of being hypocritical because I approve of Mr. Strom, I would just like to remind people of the amount of evidence and burden of proof in every such case, and Kevin's case is an extraordinary circumstance where there was total lack of any real evidence and proof to support his conviction -- yet it was forced due to political motivations.

People who have actually committed sex crimes on any minors will never be allowed membership in the National Alliance.
 
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Yes, you're correct, standards are important, so no, someone like Diggs would not be eligible for membership based on his record.
So you got that goin' for you. Which is nice.

It's 2015. What does a background check on a hypothetical prospective member cost? Like $50? Well worth the headaches saved for any WN organization recruiting publicly. Like the Internet, GPS & cell phones, just another thing I could only dream about having access to in my bygone organizational days.

I would think any 21rst century WN organization in North America would benefit from running checks on all prospective members/associates. I can see no downside.
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Old January 31st, 2015 #51
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mugshots.com

Its free. Not 100% accurate, but if they've done anything serious it might be on there. Someone can pay to have their profile removed which is one of the reasons its not 100%. If you check mugshots.com and find out someone is a convicted pedofag for example, you won't need to spend $50 to get that info.
 
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I've known Will for almost a year now, and I've gotten to know him well through our correspondence and the many long phone conversations we've had. So I can tell you with confidence that he is a generous kind-hearted man, who cares deeply for his people and is a passionate patriot.
He doesn't care enough to disassociate himself from a convicted pedo and a rapist.
 
Old February 1st, 2015 #53
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Moving Forward

American Dissident Voices broadcast of January 31, 2015

by Kevin Alfred Strom

SOMETHING SPECIAL is happening right now high in the mountains that Dr. William Pierce loved. For the first time in many, many months — years, really — people are gathered in the Life-Rune-crowned building where I worked for so long. Neglected infrastructure is being repaired. An inventory is being made. The power is on again, first in the main building, then in others. Living quarters are being made fit for habitation again. And, sitting around a table, as I and Dr. Pierce and Will Williams and others did so many hundreds of times, a group of Alliance comrades has gathered, and envelopes are being addressed and filled with a brand new edition of the National Alliance BULLETIN, the internal newsletter of our organization — and members will be getting them in the mail soon.

Last month we revamped and modernized our main Web site — http://natall.com — and ever since then, letters and inquiries have been ramping up. Let me share a few of those with you today...

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To Recapitulate:

A federal judge threw out a pair of charges Wednesday against white supremacist leader Kevin Strom, citing a lack of evidence.
Strom, founder of defunct neo-Nazi organization the National Vanguard, was charged with attempting to sexually entice a 10-year-old girl and also with intimidating a witness.

Before he tossed the charges, federal judge Norman K. Moon said that the Greene County man had engaged in questionable conduct.

“I think there is overwhelming evidence that he was sexually drawn to this child, and was obsessing over this child,” Moon said.

However, the judge ruled that prosecutors failed to show that Strom tried to pursue sex with the girl.

Authorities maintained that Strom sent the Orange County girl anonymous gifts, drove past her house and wrote lyrics to love songs professing his desire to marry her.

Authorities seized Strom’s computer in October 2006 and found more than 100 pictures he’d taken of the girl, including many in which she was clad only in a bathing suit, according to testimony.

However, prosecutors never showed in court that Strom made a substantial step toward soliciting sex from the child, defense attorney Fred Heblich argued in court Wednesday.

“In order to convict him, [the jury] would have to speculate,” Heblich said.

Moon agreed, dismissing the jurors and striking the charges before the defense presented its case. Afterward, one juror said Moon made the right move.

“I think that the judge spoke to the evidence presented and made a good decision,” Steve Kell said.

The young girl’s mother, however, said she was horrified by the outcome.

“I broke down, and I had to cry,” she said.

The girl’s mother said she became increasingly alarmed by Strom’s conduct toward her daughter, who was friends and classmates with Strom’s stepdaughter.

The woman said her fears increased after the child received an anonymous bouquet of roses and white lilies on her birthday.

Suspecting Strom as the sender, the mother called the Sexual Assault Resource Agency in Charlottesville and asked what to do.

After a short conversation, the SARA counselor looked up Strom’s name on the Internet and discovered his affiliation with the white supremacist movement. She called the girl’s mother back and gave her the news.

“Then my heart went up in my throat and I thought, ‘Oh my gosh,’” the mother said.

The woman said police contacted her shortly thereafter, and though she is disappointed with the judge’s decision, she’s glad Strom was arrested.

“Until [she] is 30, I’m still going to be afraid that he’s still interested in her,” the woman said.


Strom was also charged with attempting to intimidate a witness. Authorities alleged that he physically assaulted his wife, Elisha Strom, and that he filed criminal and civil charges against her as retaliation after she reported him to the authorities.

Elisha Strom, 32, testified that her suspicions were raised after she caught her husband looking at child pornography. Kevin Strom still faces separate child pornography charges.

Detective Brian O’Donnell testified Wednesday that Kevin Strom had admitted that his wife caught him “masturbating to pictures of young girls.”

Before dismissing the charge, the judge questioned the relevancy of that accusation.

“She caught him masturbating, but I’m sure that he was not the only one in the county doing that,” Moon said in court. “And it’s not a crime, so far.”

Moon ruled that a physical fight between the married couple occurred well before any official proceedings were under way, and therefore couldn’t be construed as witness intimidation. Pursuing the criminal and civil charges against her was Strom’s constitutional right, he said.

“I don’t think this case comes even close to making either the obstruction charge or the enticement charge,” he said.

Kevin Strom remains in jail pending his January trial on child pornography charges, though he could request a bond hearing.


So there you have it - Yet Strom and his chums at Heritage and Destiny believe that such a man as the public face of "The movement" is a good thing.

Elsewhere on VNN is a thread debating why white Nationalism is not more popular. The consensus is that ordinary Aryan members of the public are too scared to take a public stand and prefer to watch sports on TV than become white Nationalist activists.
As someone once said "..Take a look around.." If the likes of Strom and Williams and Cotterill are the only public face "the movement" can come up with then do not be surprised that no respectable ordinary members of the Aryan race will make common cause with white Nationalism.
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Some excerpts from yesterday's ADV broadcast detailing many of the positive comments about the National Alliance so far.

* * *

Norman Lowell, of Malta, friend of William Pierce and leader of Imperium Europa, writes: “I wish you well, always.”

Rex O. writes: “Outstanding website. Beautifully done. Congratulations to all concerned.”

William M. writes: “Kevin…I just found your radio shows last week. After 11 months. I thought you’d simply retreated into enjoying beauty from now on after what you went through. Also I didn’t know about the National Vanguard site. Sorry for being so oblivious! Listening to your shows starting from last winter. Am up to June now. Excellent! Thank you very much.”

Luke I. writes: “I am a passionate National Socialist residing in the Commonwealth nation of New Zealand. I would like to volunteer my services to this organisation, as well as to enquire about joining. I would be able to distribute flyers and leaflets here in my local area, where a large number of citizens are becoming gradually dissatisfied with the political situation — in particular the issue of mass immigration and the Islamification of our culture.”

Roger H. writes: “Like you, I have a strong sense of White ethnic identity, which I want to preserve and cultivate. However, I think that if we are to be successful in this endeavour, it is imperative that we pursue it in friendly cooperation with other races and those of mixed race. For too long we have allowed the state to deceitfully pose as our nation. Peacefully, legally and respectfully, we need to start organising OURSELVES (into genuine tribes and nations of our own free choice, within the framework of existing states) instead of leaving it to state and capital to do for us. But as I say, it HAS to be in friendly cooperation with other races. We can’t achieve it on our own.”

Nicodemus from Portugal writes: “I’m a identitarian (racialist) computer scientist from Portugal.

“Your organization, the National Alliance (NA), is the one I identify the most with in the whole world…. Unlike most European forms of nationalism (which are mostly ethnic), the NA is purely racial-nationalist and supports the political unification of all European peoples of the world. I find this idea very attractive not only from a romantic point of view, but also because I think it is absolutely necessary in the world of the future (that of great civilizational blocs). Here in Europe only some identitarian organizations support this, and even those often restrict themselves to the unification of the European continent only.

“…I have interest in the Western form of spiritual evolution, and because of that I plan to live permanently in USA several years from now. …I hope at that time to participate in your organization and help you create a powerful political and metapolitical force capable of taking advantage of the coming economic collapse."

D. Williams writes: “You’re at the height of your powers. Keep blasting.”

Sam U. writes: “You have offered new hope for us all. I am a retired scientist (PhD-Chemistry) and I married late in life… I have two young adult boys — twins — and I saw no future for them or their descendants — just a dark, meaningless, directionless chaotic world full of the worst creatures that human biology could spew out. Things in Australia are bad and they are getting worse – multiculturalism, diversity and race-mixing are destroying our continent and no one seems to care. Academics do not care, teachers do not care, politicians do not care, church leaders do not care and sadly, many of our people – White people – do not care.

“For over a year I was putting together (on my computer) all the broadcast’ that Dr. Pierce ever gave, along with transcripts of the broadcasts. I also have copies of some of Dr. Revilo Oliver’s work – as much as I could find available for download on the Internet. My children and I have listened to them all and we have discussed the significance of the broadcasts as far as White people are concerned. I am happy to say that as individuals and as a family we are very race aware. We are equally Jew aware too...

“I am so happy that the Alliance has risen from the ashes, much like the proverbial phoenix. …Again, I really enjoyed your broadcast. Kind Regards.”

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http://nationalvanguard.org/2015/01/moving-forward/
 
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Lets hope none of the above people has a ten year old daughter for pedo Strom to stalk.
 
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In 2014, I worked with Mr. Strom to make available 4 previously unreleased speeches (on the web in mp3 format) by Dr. Pierce, which are now being properly hosted on National Vanguard. They can be streamed or downloaded from the links below. I believed it necessary to share these to all those who admired Dr. Pierce's work.

Fundamentals for Victory and Change versus Progress
http://nationalvanguard.org/2014/07/...liam-l-pierce/

The Trouble With People and America the Sleepwalker
http://nationalvanguard.org/2014/09/...e-with-people/

-Michael
The links above don't work for some reason, and I can't edit that post anymore so here are the correct links:

Fundamentals for Victory and Change versus Progress
http://nationalvanguard.org/2014/07/...liam-l-pierce/

The Trouble With People and America the Sleepwalker
http://nationalvanguard.org/2014/09/...e-with-people/
 
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To Recapitulate:

A federal judge threw out a pair of charges Wednesday against white supremacist leader Kevin Strom, citing a lack of evidence.
Strom, founder of defunct neo-Nazi organization the National Vanguard, was charged with attempting to sexually entice a 10-year-old girl and also with intimidating a witness.

Before he tossed the charges, federal judge Norman K. Moon said that the Greene County man had engaged in questionable conduct.

“I think there is overwhelming evidence that he was sexually drawn to this child, and was obsessing over this child,” Moon said.

However, the judge ruled that prosecutors failed to show that Strom tried to pursue sex with the girl.

Authorities maintained that Strom sent the Orange County girl anonymous gifts, drove past her house and wrote lyrics to love songs professing his desire to marry her.

Authorities seized Strom’s computer in October 2006 and found more than 100 pictures he’d taken of the girl, including many in which she was clad only in a bathing suit, according to testimony.

However, prosecutors never showed in court that Strom made a substantial step toward soliciting sex from the child, defense attorney Fred Heblich argued in court Wednesday.

“In order to convict him, [the jury] would have to speculate,” Heblich said.

Moon agreed, dismissing the jurors and striking the charges before the defense presented its case. Afterward, one juror said Moon made the right move.

“I think that the judge spoke to the evidence presented and made a good decision,” Steve Kell said.

The young girl’s mother, however, said she was horrified by the outcome.

“I broke down, and I had to cry,” she said.

The girl’s mother said she became increasingly alarmed by Strom’s conduct toward her daughter, who was friends and classmates with Strom’s stepdaughter.

The woman said her fears increased after the child received an anonymous bouquet of roses and white lilies on her birthday.

Suspecting Strom as the sender, the mother called the Sexual Assault Resource Agency in Charlottesville and asked what to do.

After a short conversation, the SARA counselor looked up Strom’s name on the Internet and discovered his affiliation with the white supremacist movement. She called the girl’s mother back and gave her the news.

“Then my heart went up in my throat and I thought, ‘Oh my gosh,’” the mother said.

The woman said police contacted her shortly thereafter, and though she is disappointed with the judge’s decision, she’s glad Strom was arrested.

“Until [she] is 30, I’m still going to be afraid that he’s still interested in her,” the woman said.


Strom was also charged with attempting to intimidate a witness. Authorities alleged that he physically assaulted his wife, Elisha Strom, and that he filed criminal and civil charges against her as retaliation after she reported him to the authorities.

Elisha Strom, 32, testified that her suspicions were raised after she caught her husband looking at child pornography. Kevin Strom still faces separate child pornography charges.

Detective Brian O’Donnell testified Wednesday that Kevin Strom had admitted that his wife caught him “masturbating to pictures of young girls.”

Before dismissing the charge, the judge questioned the relevancy of that accusation.

“She caught him masturbating, but I’m sure that he was not the only one in the county doing that,” Moon said in court. “And it’s not a crime, so far.”

Moon ruled that a physical fight between the married couple occurred well before any official proceedings were under way, and therefore couldn’t be construed as witness intimidation. Pursuing the criminal and civil charges against her was Strom’s constitutional right, he said.

“I don’t think this case comes even close to making either the obstruction charge or the enticement charge,” he said.

Kevin Strom remains in jail pending his January trial on child pornography charges, though he could request a bond hearing.


So there you have it - Yet Strom and his chums at Heritage and Destiny believe that such a man as the public face of "The movement" is a good thing.

Elsewhere on VNN is a thread debating why white Nationalism is not more popular. The consensus is that ordinary Aryan members of the public are too scared to take a public stand and prefer to watch sports on TV than become white Nationalist activists.
As someone once said "..Take a look around.." If the likes of Strom and Williams and Cotterill are the only public face "the movement" can come up with then do not be surprised that no respectable ordinary members of the Aryan race will make common cause with white Nationalism.
To re-recapitulate for the final time:

“My stepdaughter and a friend of hers were interviewed by child welfare authorities as a result of Elisha’s false claims, and despite whatever pressures there may have been, they told the truth. I was cleared. Though totally cleared by the local authorities, I still found myself falsely charged and accused by prosecutors and the JTTF with “sexual enticement of a minor,” charges which could have put me in prison for the rest of my natural life, and yet charges so absurd[11] that I made history in this very courtroom when, for the first time in this district, federal charges were thrown out as nonsense on their very face without the defense having to utter a word.”

“The judge expressed himself after my statement, indicating that based on the reports he had read, including the interviews with my stepdaughter and her friend, that he would have preferred me to have pled Not Guilty to all charges. As a loving father, I could not do that: The prosecutor “piled on” charges — six counts for one alleged violation of law. I would have had to be acquitted six times in a row to go home to my children — and the government could lose four or five times in a row and still succeed in imprisoning me for decades if one or two counts “stuck” as they could easily do in a politically- and emotionally-charged case like this one, whatever the facts. The ability to “pile on” charges for one alleged offense is, in my opinion, a crime itself. It gives the government the near-absolute power to intimidate innocent people — especially innocent people with children they love — into pleading guilty to one or two counts. I chose to return to my children this summer instead of decades after they were grown, if ever. That’s the choice I had to make, and I made it.

The judge could have sentenced me to ten years in prison and a $250,000 fine. I was released about four months after my hearing, close to the minimum sentence within his discretion. No fine was imposed.“–Kevin Alfred Strom
 
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You and Strom both make much of the Judge Moon and his opinion. It follows that you are satisfied that Judge Moon in this case was competent and capable to form an objective opinion, therefore

To recapitulate you nonce apologist:


Before he tossed the charges, federal judge Norman K. Moon said that the Greene County man had engaged in questionable conduct.

“I think there is overwhelming evidence that he was sexually drawn to this child, and was obsessing over this child,”


"..The judge could have sentenced me to ten years in prison and a $250,000 fine. I was released about four months after my hearing, close to the minimum sentence within his discretion. No fine was imposed.“

Judge Moon could also have sentenced him to just time served he did not, he gave Strom time served plus four months which not something done to an exonerated innocent victim which is what you and Strom are claiming.

Even if all Strom claims is correct and that he was a victim of zog oppression. A serious person would acknowledge that in this particular case zog has won. That zog wants an Aunt sally they can demolish easily as the public face of white Nationalism is self evidently the case in regard to Strom.

From his own data Strom's main strengths are his supposed expertise in broadcasting that as a given there is no reason on Gods earth why he has to be the public face of a re-launched National Alliance.

However if as you have indicated that the re-launched National Alliance has no serious political agenda then it ( National Alliance) can be written off as yet another crackpot crew of deviants insulting the Aryan Race and the struggle for existence
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Andy, ZOG hasn't won. Kevin Strom has lived to fight another day. It takes courage to come back and contribute to the Alliance after what he went through. David Duke continued speaking out after he was maliciously targeted by that same ZOG a decade ago, and he too is courageous for continuing his work after what he went through.

We're not a group of deviants as you suggest, but of course you're entitled to that opinion, and I won't waste time trying to change that opinion. You're right, we'll steer clear of politics, because there is no chance in hell we'll be changing our situation through the current system in the U.S., or the political system in England for that matter.

Having said that, I wish you luck supporting the political candidates you believe will change the way in which the White race is being treated these days.
 
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