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Dresden - A Real Holocaust

By George T. Parker.

Sixty-four years ago, on the evening of February 13, 1945, an orgy of genocide and barbarism began against a defenseless German city, one of the greatest cultural centers of Northern Europe. Within less than 14 hours, not only was it reduced to flaming ruins, but an estimated one-third of its inhabitants—**possibly as many as half a million**—had perished in what was the worst massacre of all time. As Jewish propaganda again reaches a crescendo in celebrating the Soviet "liberation" of the famous Auschwitz internment center, it is fitting that we consider what an actual holocaust is—one which is not a Hollywood trademark, but rather one in which millions died in the most horrific and excruciating manner: not only in the genocidal rampages of America's Communist ally in Eastern Europe, but also in the systematic, targeted mass murder of German civilians in deliberately created Anglo-American fire storms.

In such places as Frankfurt, Hamburg, Munich, Kassel, Würzburg, Darmstadt and Pforzheim, among many others—but especially in DRESDEN, victims were roasted alive in an orgy of Allied sadism and fiendishness without equal, which now stands as a symbol of genocide and evil for all time. The following account, taken from the Feb. 1985 issue of the NS Bulletin, tells us what a REAL holocaust is like.


Toward the end of World War II, as Allied planes rained death and destruction over Germany, the old Saxon city of Dresden lay like an island of tranquility amid desolation. Famous as a cultural center and possessing no military value, Dresden had been spared the terror that descended from the skies over the rest of the country.

In fact, little had been done to provide the ancient city of artists and craftsmen with anti-aircraft defenses. One squadron of planes had been stationed in Dresden for awhile, but the Luftwaffe decided to move the aircraft to another area where they would be of use. A gentlemen's agreement seemed to prevail, designating Dresden as an "open city."

On Shrove Tuesday, February 13, 1945, a flood of refugees fleeing the Red Army 60 miles away had swollen the city's population to well over a million. Each new refugee brought fearful accounts of Soviet atrocities. Little did those refugees retreating from the Red terror imagine that they were about to die in a horror worse than anything Stalin could devise.

Normally, a carnival atmosphere prevailed in Dresden on Shrove Tuesday.

In 1945, however, the outlook was rather dismal. Houses everywhere overflowed with refugees, and thousands were forced to camp out in the streets, shivering in the bitter cold.


However, the people felt relatively safe; and although the mood was grim, the circus played to a full house that night as thousands came to forget for a moment the horrors of war. Bands of little girls paraded about in carnival dress in an effort to bolster waning spirits. Half-sad smiles greeted the laughing girls, but spirits were lifted.

No one realized that in less than 24 hours those same innocent children would die screaming in Churchill's firestorms. But, of course, no one could know that then. The Russians, to be sure, were savages, but at least the Americans and British were "honorable."

So when those first alarms signaled the start of 14 hours of hell, Dresden's people streamed dutifully into their shelters. But they did so without much enthusiasm, believing the alarms to be false, since their city had never been threatened from the air. Many would never come out alive, for that "great democratic statesman," Winston Churchill—in collusion with that other "great democratic statesman," Franklin Delano Roosevelt—had decided that the city of Dresden was to be obliterated by saturation bombing.

What were Churchill's motives? They appear to have been political, rather than military. Historians unanimously agree that Dresden had no military value. What industry it did have produced only cigarettes and china.

But the Yalta Conference was coming up, in which the Soviets and their Western allies would sit down like ghouls to carve up the shattered corpse of Europe. Churchill wanted a trump card—a devastating "thunderclap of Anglo-American annihilation"—with which to "impress" Stalin.

That card, however, was never played at Yalta, because bad weather delayed the originally scheduled raid. Yet Churchill insisted that the raid be carried out—to "disrupt and confuse" the German civilian population behind the lines.

Dresden's citizens barely had time to reach their shelters. The first bomb fell at 10:09 p.m. The attack lasted 24 minutes, leaving the inner city a raging sea of fire. "Precision saturation bombing" had created the desired firestorm.

A firestorm is caused when hundreds of smaller fires join in one vast conflagration. Huge masses of air are sucked in to feed the inferno, causing an artificial tornado. Those persons unlucky enough to be caught in the rush of wind are hurled down entire streets into the flames. Those who seek refuge underground often suffocate as oxygen is pulled from the air to feed the blaze, or they perish in a blast of white heat—heat intense enough to melt human flesh.


One eyewitness who survived told of seeing "young women carrying babies running up and down the streets, their dresses and hair on fire, screaming until they fell down, or the collapsing buildings fell on top of them."

There was a three-hour pause between the first and second raids. The lull had been calculated to lure civilians from their shelters into the open again. To escape the flames, thousands of civilians had crowded into the Grosser Garten, a magnificent park nearly one and a half miles square.

The second raid came at 1:22 a.m. with no warning. Twice as many bombers returned with a massive load of incendiary bombs. The second wave was designed to spread the raging firestorm into the Grosser Garten.

It was a complete "success." Within a few minutes a sheet of flame ripped across the grass, uprooting trees and littering the branches of others with everything from bicycles to human limbs. For days afterward, they remained bizarrely strewn about as grim reminders of Allied sadism.

At the start of the second air assault, many were still huddled in tunnels and cellars, waiting for the fires of the first attack to die down. At 1:30 a.m. an ominous rumble reached the ears of the commander of a Labor Service convoy sent into the city on a rescue mission. He described it this way: "The detonation shook the cellar walls. The sound of the explosions mingled with a new, stranger sound which seemed to come closer and closer, the sound of a thundering waterfall; it was the sound of the mighty tornado howling in the inner city."


Others hiding below ground died. But they died painlessly—they simply glowed bright orange and blue in the darkness. As the heat intensified, they either disintegrated into ciders or melted into a thick liquid—often three or four feet deep in spots.

Shortly after 10:30 on the morning of February 14, the last raid swept over the city. American bombers pounded the rubble that had been Dresden for a steady 38 minutes. But this attack was not nearly as heavy as the first two.

However, what distinguished this raid was the cold-blooded ruthlessness with which it was carried out. U.S. Mustangs appeared low over the city, strafing anything that moved, including a column of rescue vehicles rushing to the city to evacuate survivors. One assault was aimed at the bands of the Elbe River, where refugees had huddled during the horrible night.

In the last year of the war, Dresden had become a hospital town. During the previous night's massacre, heroic nurses had dragged thousands of crippled patients to the Elbe. The low-flying mustangs machine-gunned those helpless patients, as well as thousands of other old men, women and children who had escaped the city.

When the last plane left the sky, Dresden was a scorched ruin, its blackened streets filled with corpses. The city was spared no horror. A flock of vultures escaped from the zoo, and fattened on the carnage. Rats swarmed over the piles of corpses.

A Swiss citizen described his visit to Dresden two weeks after the raid: "I could see torn-off arms and legs, mutilated torsos and heads which had been wrenched from their bodies and rolled away. In places the corpses were still lying so densely that I had to clear a path through them in order not to tread on arms and legs."


The death toll was staggering. The full extent of the Dresden Holocaust can be more readily grasped if one considers that well over 250,000—possibly as many as half a million—persons died within a 14-hour period, whereas estimates of those who died at Hiroshima range from 90,000 to 140,000 (1).

Allied apologists for the massacre have often "twinned" Dresden with the English city of Coventry. But the 380 killed in Coventry during the entire war cannot begin to compare with over 1,000 times that number who were slaughtered in 14 hours at Dresden. Moreover, Coventry was a munitions center, a legitimate military target. Dresden, on the other hand, produced only china—and cups and saucers can hardly be considered military hardware!

It is interesting to further compare the respective damage to London and Dresden, especially when we recall all the Hollywood schmaltz about the "London blitz." In one night, 1,600 acres of land were destroyed in the Dresden massacre. London escaped with damage to only 600 acres during the entire war.

In one ironic note, Dresden's only conceivable military target—its railroad years—was ignored by Allied bombers. They were too busy concentrating on helpless old men, women and children.

If there ever was a war crime, then certainly the Dresden Holocaust ranks as the most sordid one of all time. Yet there are no movies made today condemning this fiendish slaugher; nor did any Allied airman—or Sir Winston—sit in the dock at Nuremberg. In fact, the Dresden airmen were actually awarded medals for their role in this mass murder. But, of course, they could not have been tried, because they were "only following orders."

This is not to say that the mountains of corpses left in Dresden were ignored by the Nuremberg Tribunal. In one final irony, the prosecution presented photographs of the Dresden dead as "evidence" of alleged National Socialist atrocities against Jewish concentration-camp inmates!

Churchill, the monster who ordered the Dresden slaugher, was knighted and the rest of his career is history. The cold-blooded sadism of the massacre, however, is brushed aside by his biographers, who still cannot bring themselves to tell how the desire of one madman to "impress" another one led to the mass murder of up to to a half million men, women and children.

To this day, those responsible for this unspeakable act of terrorism and barbarism have never had the decency to apologize to the victims or their families. They have been too busy preparing other acts of terrorism and barbarism.

Never forget! Remember the DRESDEN HOLOCAUST!


(1) Although it will never be possible to obtain an exact count of the victims, a reasonable estimate can be adduced by taking the number of registered inhabitants of the city, doubling it by a factor of 2+ to account for undocumented refugees in the city at the time, and then extrapolating the number of dead from analogous instances in other German cities subjected to Allied saturation bombing of civilians during World War II, notably Hamburg, Darmstadt, Kassel and Pforzheim, inter alia.

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Dresden - never forget, never forgive!
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Default Alle wichtigen Infos für Dresden: Anfahrt, Auflagen und Verbote

Die Veranstalter teilen mit – Aktueller Stand:
Stadt unterliegt vor Gericht zum zweiten Mal! Auch das Oberverwaltungsgericht bestätigt: Die Beschränkung einer von der »Jungen Landsmannschaft Ostdeutschland« (JLO) für den 13. Febraur 2010 in Dresden angemeldeten Demonstration auf eine nur »stationäre« Versammlung greift in unzulässiger Weise in die vom Grundgesetz geschützte Versammlungsfreiheit ein. Damit erleidet die Stadt Dresden erneut eine empfindliche Schlappe! Begründet durch das “Trennungsgebot” findet der Trauermarsch auf der Neustädter Elbseite statt.

Anfahrt für Busse

Autobahn A4, Abfahrt Dresden Hellerau, weiterer Verlauf über Hansastraße, Lößnitzstraße bis Kreuzung Dr.-Friedrich-Wolf-Straße/Dammweg

Nach dem Aussteigen der Versammlungsteilnehmer erhalten die Busfahrer durch die Polizei Informationen, wo die Busse abzustellen sind. Nach dem Ende der Veranstaltung werden die Busse wieder herangeführt.

Für Zugreisende: Direkt bis Dresden Bahnhof Neustadt, bzw. am Hauptbahnhof in die S-Bahn Richtung Bahnhof Neustadt umsteigen!


Achtung! Auflagen zum Trauermarsch am 13.02.2010, Beginn: 12.00 Uhr
Achtung: Auftreten und Kleidung hat dem Anlaß (!) entsprechend zu erfolgen! Das gilt auch für mitgebrachte Transparente und deren Inhalt!

Gebot: Fahnenstöcke nur bis max. 1,50m (am besten Besenstiele), Transparente (nur themenbezogen!) bis 3,50m, Länderfahnen (auch Vertreibungsgebiete), schwarze Fahnen. Keine Parteifahnen!

Verbot: B-Jacken, Springerstiefel, Schuhe mit Stahlkappen, BW-Stiefel o.ä., militärisch geschnittene Jacken und Hemden, Zahlenkombinationen a la 1488 usw., Reichskriegsflagge, Keltenkreuzfahne u.ä. (Verbietet sich bei dem Thema eigentlich von selbst!), Uniformen (auch in Teilen), Alkohol, Kennzeichen verbotener Organisationen, Vermummung, Lonsdale, Consdaple usw. usf. Entsprechende Tätowierungen sind abzudecken! Marschieren im Gleichschritt und in Blöcken, skandieren von Parolen, Sprechchöre. Verkauf jeglicher Utensilien (z.B. Tonträger, Druckwerke, T-Hemden, Aufkleber u.ä.)

Auf dem Marsch herrscht absolutes Alkohol- und Rauchverbot! Telephone sind lautlos zu stellen! Auf Sonnenbrillen sollte verzichtet werden!

Den Anordnungen der Ordner und der Versammlungsleitung ist strikt Folge zu leisten! Provokateure werden von der Veranstaltung entfernt!

Busverantwortliche achten beim Besteigen der Busse auf entsprechende Auflagen! Alkoholisierte Personen werden von der Polizei nicht zur Veranstaltung gelassen!

Es ist mit Vorkontrollen zu rechnen! Also seid pünktlich, am besten eine Stunde eher!

Weitere Infos gibt es hier:
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The Myth of the Good War: America in World War II
60 Years Ago, February 13-14, 1945: Why was Dresden Destroyed

By Jacques R. Pauwels

Global Research, February 9, 2010

In the night of February 13-14, 1945, the ancient and beautiful capital of Saxony, Dresden, was attacked three times, twice by the RAF and once by the USAAF, the United States Army Air Force, in an operation involving well over 1,000 bombers. The consequences were catastrophic, as the historical city centre was incinerated and between 25,000 and 40,000 people lost their lives.[1] Dresden was not an important industrial or military centre and therefore not a target worthy of the considerable and unusual common American and British effort involved in the raid. The city was not attacked as retribution for earlier German bombing raids on cities such as Rotterdam and Coventry, either. In revenge for the destruction of these cities, bombed ruthlessly by the Luftwaffe in 1940, Berlin, Hamburg, Cologne and countless other German towns big and small had already paid dearly in 1942, 1943, and 1944. Furthermore, by the beginning of 1945, the Allied commanders knew perfectly well that even the most ferocious bombing raid would not succeed in “terrorizing [the Germans] into submission,”[2] so that it is not realistic to ascribe this motive to the planners of the operation. The bombing of Dresden, then, seems to have been a senseless slaughter, and looms as an even more terrible undertaking than the atomic obliteration of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which is at least supposed to have led to the capitulation of Japan.

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It's no coincidence that Dresden is ground-zero for nationalism in Germany.
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It's no coincidence that Dresden is ground-zero for nationalism in Germany.
Thanks to people like you George that ordered Dresden to be fire-bombed in the first place!

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If there are any former USAAF and RAF Worst Generation war criminals still alive who blew apart and incinerated nearly a quarter-million innocent people in this attack, I wish they would all hurry up and fucking die so the dumb kwans can stop regaling them as some sort of heroic god-like beings. How I would like to fire an RPG round into that statue of Arthur "Bomber" Harris in London.
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Default The British, and not the Germans, started the mass bombing of civilians in World War II

The recent 71st anniversary of the bombing of Dresden has highlighted the deliberately-obscured fact that the British, and not the Germans, started the mass bombing of civilians in World War II, and that this remains one of the great unpunished war crimes of the Twentieth Century.

The British establishment in particular likes to perpetuate the “Blitz” story every year around September, as another way of claiming victimhood status—when in fact the German bombing of London only took place after months of incessant attacks by the Royal Air Force (RAF) on German cities had passed without retaliation.

As part of a general post-World War II propaganda campaign to paint the Germans in as bad a light as possible, the controlled media has always claimed that the Germans started the bombing of civilians, using the two examples of the Luftwaffe attack on Warsaw, Poland, in September 1939 and the May 14, 1940 bombing of Rotterdam, the Netherlands.

The propaganda story goes along the lines that the Germans bombed these cities and thereby set the example of the mass bombing of civilians—and then followed this up with the “blitz” on London.

Only after all this, it is claimed, did the Germans “get back” what they had dished out.

This myth has been stated over and over so many times by the controlled media that it has become the “popular” understanding of the course of the war.

The reality, like so much else about World War II, is completely the opposite.

It was in fact the British RAF, under the direct orders of Winston Churchill, which started the saturation bombing of civilians—on May 10, 1940, the day the new Prime Minister took office. On that day, British bombers attacked the German city of Freiburg-im-Breisgau in southwestern Germany, killing fifty-seven people.

From May 10, 1940 onwards, British bombers bombed German civilian targets almost every night.

Even then, Hitler ordered the Luftwaffe not to respond in kind, and only to bomb military targets in Britain, such as airfields and ports, in preparation for a planned invasion of the United Kingdom.

On August 25, 1940, a German raid on an oil refinery on the banks of Thames River in east London took place as part of this tactical assault. Some of the bombs landed next to the refinery, in London’s East End, causing no casualities—but in response to this bombing, described by the post-war Official History of the Defence of the United Kingdom as “unintentional”—the first mass raid on Berlin by British bombers took place six days later.

After that, regular British raids on Berlin’s non-military targets took place—and escalated throughout the war.

Despite these attacks on Berlin, Hitler still refused to retaliate. But this situation could not last, and after nearly four months, the Luftwaffe was finally ordered to strike back.

In a speech in the Berlin Sportspalast on September 4, 1940, Hitler announced the German retaliation this way:

“Whereas German aviators and German planes fly over English soil daily, there is hardly a single Englishman who comes across the North Sea in daytime. They therefore come during the night, and as you know, release their bombs indiscriminately and without any plan on to residential areas, farmhouses and villages. Wherever they see a sign of light, a bomb is dropped on it.

For three months past, I have not ordered any answer to be given; thinking that they would stop this nonsensical behavior.

“Mr. Churchill has taken this to be a sign of our weakness.

“You will understand that we shall now give a reply, night for night, and with increasing force. We will put a stop to the game of these night-pirates, as God is our witness.”

As J.M. Spaight detailed in his book, it was the British who were to “realise the full potential” of saturation civilian bombing, and that the British bombers were designed to bomb cities, he said, while the “Teutonic mind” never even considered such a policy, and instead viewed an air force merely as a tool to “blast open” a path for attacking armies.

Spaight also wrote that Hitler’s hope that “Churchill would stop this nonsense” was “stupid” and furthermore the “blitz” on London which followed was actually minor by comparison to what had already been thrown at German cities by the RAF, and to what occurred in 1943 and 1944 (the bombing of Hamburg, Cologne, and Munich—where, Spaight boasted, the fires could be seen 150 miles away).

Furthermore, Spaight said, the German air force was never used for anything else until ordered to retaliate against the British campaign. As Spaight put it:

“Whatever Hitler wanted or did not want, he most assuredly did not want the mutual bombing to go on. He had not wanted it ever to begin. He wanted it, having begun, to be called off. There was ample evidence that he did not want the latter kind of bombing to become the practice. He had done his best to have it banned by international agreement.”

Some 700,000 incendiary bombs were dropped on Dresden, one bomb for every two inhabitants. Temperatures above ground reached up to 1,600 degrees Celsius, or 2912 degrees Fahrenheit. Unknown thousands of people—estimates vary up to 135,000 or more—were killed in the resulting firestorm, and the entire city was laid waste.

The controlled media is equally reticent over the role of Churchill and the RAF in the bombing of Dresden, and are always seeking reasons to excuse this war crime.

The reality is that Churchill and the RAF bomber command under Sir Arthur Harris knew very well what was going to happen and also that there was no military justification for the attack.

The truth about Churchill’s role in the destruction of Dresden was revealed in a memo held by the RAF’s Air Historical Branch, which quotes the British Prime Minister as only being interesting in how many civilian refugees he could “fry” with the attack:

“I do not want to receive any suggestions how we can destroy militarily important targets in Dresden’s hinterland, I want to get suggestions how we can fry 600,000 refugees from Breslau in Dresden.”—Winston Churchill, as quoted in a Minute by A.P.S. of S.—Air Chief Marshal Sir Wilfrid Freeman—Jan. 26, 1945 in Air Historical Branch file CMS 608.
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