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Old November 3rd, 2012 #81
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Gerry Fable,

I was intrigued by your comment about "race hate" and "lovers of their own kind". I don't mean to assume anything but do believe certain NS adherents would suggest that separating the two forms as a false dichotomy?

I was further intrigued by your connection of Hitler to Gnosticism. Birger Pearson, a Gnosticism scholar, spoke at Arizona State a few years ago. He drew the origins of Gnosticism to not only pagans but also more specifically to the Essenes and practitioners of Kabbalah. Elaine Pagels, Marvin Meyer and Stephen Hoeller have expanded on this also in not only their lectures but in some publications. I would be curious as to why Hitler would align himself, even remotely, with theology that has close ties to Jewish mysticism and esoterics. Not to say that this determines some kind of double standard Hitler's part but I believe such a move deserves an explanation within reason.
 
Old November 3rd, 2012 #82
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I'm not trying to intentionally be disrespectful or controversial. I just started a thread titled "Hitler: Christian Idiot". Nevermind what I did, don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain. Oy Vey! Let me insult you, then tell you horrible stories about my sufferink to gain your pity. All the while I continue to insult and question from the position of a victim.

"The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you."

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Old November 3rd, 2012 #83
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I'm not trying to intentionally be disrespectful or controversial. I just started a thread titled "Hitler: Christian Idiot". Nevermind what I did, don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain. Oy Vey! Let me insult you, then tell you horrible stories about my sufferink to gain your pirty. All the while I continue to insult and question from the position of a victim.

"The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you."
I admitted my wrongs earlier in the thread. I apologized for being disrespectful. There is no reason for anyone NOT to acknowledge where I acted poorly. Yes, I did insult. Aside crime the apology I also admitted to having an agenda and an axe to grind. Where have I been disingenuous or dishonest? I readily admit that I made a poor first impression. IOW, I was wrong to be presumptuous, narcissistic and asinine with my initial posts.

Crowe stated that I was ungrateful to my mother and I explained why I have the opinion that I do. As I stated in my response to Crowe, I wasn't looking for pity. I'm a hundred times better than that slut bag whore who gave birth to me.

I do owe you a sincere apology, Mr. A. Anderson. I was insulting and rude to you in your thread about homosexuals. So I do apologize.
 
Old November 3rd, 2012 #84
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I admitted my wrongs earlier in the thread. I apologized for being disrespectful. There is no reason for anyone NOT to acknowledge where I acted poorly. Yes, I did insult. Aside crime the apology I also admitted to having an agenda and an axe to grind. Where have I been disingenuous or dishonest? I readily admit that I made a poor first impression. IOW, I was wrong to be presumptuous, narcissistic and asinine with my initial posts.

Crowe stated that I was ungrateful to my mother and I explained why I have the opinion that I do. As I stated in my response to Crowe, I wasn't looking for pity. I'm a hundred times better than that slut bag whore who gave birth to me.

I do owe you a sincere apology, Mr. A. Anderson. I was insulting and rude to you in your thread about homosexuals. So I do apologize.
"The Jew Cries Out In Pain As He Strikes You."

I'm not the forgiving sort. I don't let by-gones by by-gones. What a person says, they say with conviction because they believe it. A person doesn't do a 180 degree turn in the simple matter of 16 posts.

Some of us don't buy the bullshit. Not all of us Goyim are as stupid as jews believe us to be.

Does it really matter? Nope. Some will believe you, some won't. I'm in the latter category. Don't lose any sleep over it, I won't. It is what it is.

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Old November 3rd, 2012 #85
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"The Jew Strikes Out In Pain As He Strikes You."

I'm not the forgiving sort. I don't let by-gones by by-gones. What a person says, they say with conviction because they believe it. A person doesn't do a 180 degree turn in the simple matter of 16 posts.

Some of us don't buy the bullshit. Not all of us Goyim are as stupid as jews believe us to be.

Does it really matter? Nope. Some will believe you, some won't. I'm in the latter category. Don't lose any sleep over it, I won't. It is what it is.
That's fine. I didn't ask your forgiveness. I merely apologized for being a dick to you.
 
Old November 3rd, 2012 #86
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That's fine. I didn't ask your forgiveness. I merely apologized for being a dick to you.
Don't care. Apologies aren't worth shit. Apologize, don't......whatever. Like I said.

"The Jew Strikes You As He Cries Out In Pain."

Welcome to VNNF, home of the "jew wise". Most of us don't bite or fall for jewish tactics.
 
Old November 3rd, 2012 #87
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Don't care. Apologies aren't worth shit. Apologize, don't......whatever. Like I said.

"The Jew Strikes You As He Cries Out In Pain."

Welcome to VNNF, home of the "jew wise". Most of us don't bite or fall for jewish tactics.
Ok. Thank you for the welcome nonetheless.
 
Old November 3rd, 2012 #88
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Dway, if your mother was a heroin addict, or even if you're just making that up to gain sympathy, I would strongly suggest that you read as much as you can here, on this forum, and try to develop a truth-based understanding.
A truth-based understanding of biological racial realities, in particular. From such a foundation, everything else will become comprehensible.
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Old November 3rd, 2012 #89
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So Dway, do you really buy this "Diversity is our strength" anti-racist bullshit? Just curious.



A lot of Irish immigrants into the US actually changed their names to shorter English ones, so they could be pronounced easier.
A lot of them did it in Ireland too for various reasons. The majority of the Irish were illiterate up until the 1900's, and most of the authorities spoke English, not Gaelic.
 
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A lot of them did it in Ireland too for various reasons. The majority of the Irish were illiterate up until the 1900's, and most of the authorities spoke English, not Gaelic.
The majority of Americans were illiterate up until the 1900's. In fact, the majority of the human population on planet Earth was illiterate up until the 1900s.

We have made more advances in eductation, resulting in technological advances, in the past 100 years than the previous existence of human history combined. Education results in exponential advancement.
 
Old November 3rd, 2012 #91
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Dway, if your mother was a heroin addict, or even if you're just making that up to gain sympathy, I would strongly suggest that you read as much as you can here, on this forum, and try to develop a truth-based understanding.
A truth-based understanding of biological racial realities, in particular. From such a foundation, everything else will become comprehensible.
Last time...I don't want any sympathy concerning the earliest years of my life. I was accused of being ungrateful and I wanted to clear the air about my biological mother. Honestly, I shouldn't have brought her up in the first place.

My studies are directed toward the Ancient Near East. I have disagreed greatly with some of my Jewish studies professors because their arguments are subjective rather evidentiarily conclusive. If there is a Jewish problem, then it goes back further than Jewish culture, anthropology and theology.

With the positive exchange between myself and Gerry Fable, I should at least be willing to hear the perspectives of others on this board. I will probably ask a lot of questions. Please be patient with me as I try to be open minded to what you have to share.
 
Old November 4th, 2012 #92
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If this is a sincere question, the best and most honest answer I can give is that I don't know.
Then maybe all isn't completely lost. Look at it this way, suppose the tables were turned and one of us "racists" went to spread our opinion somewhere else on the internet, we would be banned immediately, but yet you can come here in our house and speak a contrary opinion without being silenced. That doesn't mean you won't get burned though .

You don't necessarily have to think highly of Hitler or be a Christian to be a White racialist. You just need to have the best interests of White European peoples at heart.
 
Old November 4th, 2012 #93
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Fair enough. And you're right about speech freedom here rather than other boards.

Even if I don't agree with the ideologies expressed here and in NS literature then at the very least I can learn something.
 
Old November 4th, 2012 #94
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Even if I don't agree with the ideologies expressed here and in NS literature then at the very least I can learn something.
Good attitude. I'm frankly surprised. Pleasantly surprised. Your initial position, vis a vis Hitler and Christianity seemed so far beyond the pale of my own perspective, that I felt overwhelmed by prospect of responding.

I'm fascinated by the information your thread has unearthed from Gerry Fable because it is consonant with sources formative in the development of my current perspective:

Hubert Benoit
Rene Guenon
Miguel Serrano
GWF Hegel

I personally believe that the symbolism of the Triangle is a geometric representation of what Hegel expresses verbally as tertiary synthesis.

When credence is given to the Aryan/Jew dialectic, it is entirely logical that Jew Marx would apply Aryan Hegel in its destructive aspect.
 
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I'm currently reading The Phenomenology of Spirit.

It's the ideological analog of a musical waltz; 123 123 123. The engine of creativity. Struggle between 1 and 2 creates 3, which, in turn, is a new unity.

The Jew wants us to believe that we are all 1, and promises that this will end struggle, which is true, but at the cost of stagnation and death.
 
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Old November 4th, 2012 #98
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national socialist religion of blood and the black sun - 2012 evolution - -
from defendthefatherland 3 months ago

i wonder how many national socialists or neo nazis actualy know that hitler and himmler where of a religion based on pagan hinduism and understand what the black sun is ?. not many i bet. himmler never went anywhere without his hindu book of the bhagavad gita and paganism is the worship of nature and our devine connection to the cosmos and the centre of cosmic temporal power the black sun swasticas are found in cultures across the world ireland scotland many countrys in europe asia etc a common link of belief. by blood we have a spark a link to the devine some of us have more of a connection to this higher state than others .
Nice video. This guy's thinking is similar to mine. Shame about his typing.
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Gerry Fable,
I was intrigued by your comment about "race hate" and "lovers of their own kind". I don't mean to assume anything but do believe certain NS adherents would suggest that separating the two forms as a false dichotomy?
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"German racialism meant re-discovering the creative values of their own race. Rediscovering their own culture. It was a search for excellence [Jihad], a noble ideal.

National Socialist racialism was not against the other races, it was for its own race. It aimed at defending and improving its race, and wished that other races did the same for themselves."
Belgium Waffen SS General Leon Degrelle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6QZcZecFqS4"]Video:
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Old November 5th, 2012 #100
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The Second Coming of Q
© Copyright 1995 by Joseph Kerrick



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We are fortunate to still have extant a single surviving piece of religious literature which embodies the
essence of quaternary thought as it was originally formulated in the ancient Aryovedic culture. And it
speaks specifically to this example.
The Bhagavad Gita is the record of an interaction between a god and a man on a battlefield. The noble
warlord Arjuna gathers his host to confront a large opposing army, in a war that began as a family
squabble. He beholds many of his relatives and friends among the enemy, and is overwhelmed by a
sudden rush of Point 3. "Those are my brothers over there," he says to his charioteer; "I will not fight!"
By a fortuitous mythological twist, Arjuna's charioteer is Krishna, an Avatar: an incarnation of the
supreme deity. Through many pages of insightful and inspiring verse, Krishna guides Arjuna to the next
level of enlightenment, culminating in the ultimate vision of Godhead. The result is that Arjuna acquires
Q. The knowledge that the enemy is his kin is just as trenchant for him as it was before, and even more
so, for he now has complete spiritual understanding. But he girds his loins and leads his soldiers into
battle. His army wins a great victory, and wipes out the enemy to a man.
This tale is utterly incomprehensible to the mind stuck in Point 3, and is likely to be regarded as a
regression to the primitive. In an effort to explicate, let us put forth the bare bones of the formula, and
proceed to flesh them out.
Quaternary Thought:

X

Not-X

Both (X and not-X)

Not (both (X and not-X)
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