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Old October 3rd, 2012 #1
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Just think of all those millions of Turks who are now able to claim asylum in Europe...they will snap you like twigs.


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Targets in Syria has been bombed in return to a deadly attack which killed 5 people in southeeastern Turkey, Turkish Prime Ministry has said.

"These provacations against the safety of Turkey will not remain unanswered," the Prime Ministry said. "We have responded to the attack, and bombed targets in Syria."

The response, as the Prime Ministry stated, came from the Turkish Armed Forces officials at the border, and was "self-defense."

United Nations eneral Secretariat Ban Ki-Moon, the Security Council Members were notified of the attack, and of Turkey's response as well.

An emergency NATO meeting had been summoned, and will take place in the upcoming hours.

The Prime Minister said Turkey's response abided with the international law, and came as self-defense.

A cross-border move is expected to be brought to the Parliament later tonight.

The bombing came after an emergency meeting between the Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Chief of General Staff Necdet Ozel, Deputy Prime Minsiter Besir Atalay and Justice Minister Sadullah Ergun.

Main opposition leader Kemal Kilicdaroglu cancelled all his planned events to attend the general assembly in the morning.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tur...&NewsCatID=338
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Old October 3rd, 2012 #2
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Our NATO brethren suffered under the cruel hand of Assad?? This is the second outrage!! (downing of Turk spyplane a few months back?) Article 4 consultation and then probable intervention is what it looks like.

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Old October 3rd, 2012 #3
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Just think of all those millions of Turks who are now able to claim asylum in Europe...they will snap you like twigs.
Ain't that the truth.

40 yrs of curry and lager is not the best prep for what's coming, that's for sure.

But our masters knew that when they said "there yer go guys 'n' gals...fill yer boots 'n' ave some''

And didn't we just.....''as swift as a greyhound, as tough as leather, and as hard as Krupp's steel" we are not.

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Old October 3rd, 2012 #4
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Turkey is a disgusting place full of some of the worst dark-skinned people around. The best thing Europe could do is invade and take it back which is probably what will happen eventually anyway.

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Old October 4th, 2012 #5
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There's some pretty good evidence to suggest Turkey is already in Europe.

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t...=turkey+europe for other relevant documents/links but the gist is:

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The Slog has obtained sight of an official Brussels Commission document which, while not confidential, has not as far as I can tell been the subject of MSM coverage, or indeed any vote at all among MEPs. Although dated March 30th 2012 as a ‘proposal for a decision’, I can reveal that the decision has been approved and is already going ahead. It is to grant Turkish citizens the same residency and labour rights in Europe as existing EU citizens.

The unelected European Commission has repealed the 1980 Ankara Accord between what was then the EEC and Turkey, and replaced it with a major change to the rights of Turkish citizens in the EU. The proposal was presented to a working group (we know not who) eleven days ago on March 30th, and approved by that same anonymous gathering. It specifically adds that ‘A first package with similar proposals in respect of Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Croatia, the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and Israel was adopted by the Council in October 2010′ and that this too will be updated to bring it into line with the Turkish proposals.

I was certainly not aware of the October 2010 ‘package’, and I doubt very much if even the eurosceptic wing of the Conservative Party is up to speed with the fact that this Turkish grant of rights is about to pass quietly into law – as so many of these lunatic Commission decisions have a tendency to do. But the clauses in relation to non-eurozone members like the UK (already sinking under the weight of unrestricted migration) are truly mind-boggling. For example: (my emphasis)

‘this [Turkish accord] will facilitate the application of these provisions by Member States’ social security institutions. This Decision shall apply:

(a) to Turkish workers who are or have been legally employed in the territory of a

Member State and who are or have been subject to the legislation of one or more

Member States, and their survivors;

(b) to the members of the family of workers referred to in point (a) provided that these

family members are or have been legally resident with the worker concerned while

the worker is employed in a Member State;

This gives Home Secretary Theresa May-and-very-probably-will something of a problem: despite her protestations of ‘cracking down’ on migrant numbers and the rights of their dependents, as a Member State Britain will have to obey the diktat. Does Theresa even know about it, I ask?

I do not employ the phrase ‘ lunatic Commission decisions’ above lightly. Any unelected and yet sovereign body happy to take on the welfare needs of these workers at a time of euro meltdown must be deranged at least. To enumerate the idiocy involved here:

1. Turkey’s economy under the closet Islamist Recep Erdogan is about to go bang. Enter millions of jobless Turks stage left.

2. Turkey has already threatened to annex Cyprus…both parts of which represent an existing EU member.

3. Algeria, Morocco, and Tunisia are all recently destablised States with growing Islamist power in their politics.

4. Um, none of them – including Israel – are in Europe. Small point, but worth bringing up I feel.

5. All four of the above States are anti-Israel in the most bellicose manner.

6. Germany has just passed a law denying these very rights to unemployed ClubMed citizens. How are they now going to feel in the light of this new law? How is Gunter Grass going to feel, having just been banned by the Israeli Government?

7. The anti-Islamist security ramifications of the new law would be horrendous. Yet Theresa May tells us that GCHQ must listen to and read all our online and telcom communications even without such a potty increase in the risks involved. (Only media outrage stopped Camerlot from slipping this little number through the Lobby Fodder).

Zero alignment with the map of Europe, the financial chaos of the eurozone, the political powder keg that is the middle east, and real life in the 3D Universe lies – as ever – behind the adoption of this proposal. It is time the Camerlot Establishment stopped complacently referring to unthinking EU madness as “an imponderable”. It is time William Hague started looking for a way out come what may. And that includes Theresa May.
 
Old October 4th, 2012 #6
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There's some pretty good evidence to suggest Turkey is already in Europe.

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t...=turkey+europe for other relevant documents/links but the gist is:


The US has already delegated to Turkey responsibility for Bosnia, Kosovo and the Balkan region.

Turkey is also behind the printing of illegal passports in the muslim dominated Serbian area of Sandzak.

It says 'Republic of Sandzak', with writing in both Turkish and Arabic.



Of course the Serbian puppet govt doesn't react to such provocations which are a direct attack on the territorial integrity of the country.
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Old November 1st, 2012 #7
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The Turks can not be defeated..

The Turks are not as you say, just should be afraid enemies.

HEİL HİTLER!
 
Old November 2nd, 2012 #8
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The Turks can not be defeated..

The Turks are not as you say, just should be afraid enemies.

HEİL HİTLER!
the turks should never be allowed to enter europe. they dont belong here , borat
 
Old November 2nd, 2012 #9
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Stoopid Turks!
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Old November 2nd, 2012 #10
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The Turks can not be defeated..

The Turks are not as you say, just should be afraid enemies.

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the turks should never be allowed to enter europe. they dont belong here , borat
Borat. LOFL! Coffee just came out of my nose.

 
Old November 2nd, 2012 #11
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I suppose the silver lining might be that it could turn into an all-out war in which one bunch of Muslims (the Turks) will kill another bunch of Muslims (the Syrians).
As the Jews would say, what is not to like?
 
Old November 2nd, 2012 #12
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As always it is a racial struggle as the primitive adherents of sunni try to outdo the primitives of shite



http://www.thenational.ae/news/world...e-axis-reeling


Hamas's decision to align itself with Sunni-led countries such as Qatar and Bahrain has come as a major blow to the axis also reeling on several other fronts.
The Qatari emir's visit to Hamas-ruled Gaza last month underscored the degree to which the axis has unravelled and sent a powerful message the governments in Damascus and Tehran, which views the Arab Gulf state as an arch foe.
Taher Nunu, a Hamas spokesman, said last week that the head of the Bahrain Royal Charity Organisation, Mustafa Al Sayed, would soon tour the Palestinian enclave, further underlining Hamas's changing approach to foreign policy.
Cracks first appeared in the axis when Hamas angered the Tehran government, an important patron, for failing to maintain its loyalty to Bashar Al Assad as the uprising against his rule started 19 months ago.
Compounding the group's woes, Iran's economy is showing signs of distress from biting western sanctions over its nuclear programme, Syria's president is fighting for his regime's survival and Hizbollah in Lebanon is under fire from opponents who blame it for the assassination of an anti-Syrian intelligence official.
That Hamas, a Sunni Islamist group, has allied itself with Sunni powers reflects the faultlines in the Middle East, say analysts.
Hamas was the only Sunni member of the axis, which consisted of Shiite Iran and Hizbollah in Lebanon and the Alawites of Mr Al Assad's regime (Syria's minority Alawites are followers of an offshoot of Shiite Islam
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"We're seeing basically the resistance axis becoming much more vulnerable and under duress. So even if it survives, it's really under tremendous pressure," said Fawaz Gerges, director of the Middle East Center at the London School of Economics.
"The Hamas shift to the Saudi-Qatari-Turkish orbit represents a major nail in the coffin of the resistance axis," he added. "Now you are talking about Iran and Syria and to a lesser extent Iraq and this undermines the social element because Hamas added the very important Sunni dimension."
Less than a decade ago, the axis seemed to be on the rise and so too Shiite Islam following the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.
The fall of Saddam Hussein's regime marked the end of Sunni domination in Iraq as a Shiite government came to power. The government in Baghdad has since warmed ties with Iran - much to the chagrin of the US and its Arab allies.
In 2004, Jordan's King Abdullah - a US ally - warned of a developing "Shiite crescent" in the region.
But the Arab Spring has empowered Sunni Islamists, who won democratic elections in Egypt and Tunisia, reversing the momentum the Jordanian monarch had warned about.
In Syria, too, the rebels fighting to topple Mr Al Assad are Sunni.
"The fate of the alliance rests on the future of the Assad regime," said Bilal Saab, Middle East analyst at the Monterey Institute of International Studies in California.
"If Assad goes, Iran and Hizbollah will suffer and find it much more difficult to plan, coordinate, and communicate."
Still, Mr Assad could very well triumph, which Iran would "trumpet as a major success", said Yossi Alpher, former director of Tel Aviv University's Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies.
But if the Syrian leader does indeed fall, Israel and the Sunni-Arab states would face a new challenge.
"Iran and its nuclear ambitions will remain an issue and you could possibly have a Syria run by extremists, and Israel, the West and the Arab moderates will be faced with determining whether the alternative is actually better," Mr Alpher said
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