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Exclusive: Evangelicals urge more action from Trump against 'alt-right' Chris Moody By Chris Moody, CNN Senior Digital Correspondent Thu September 28, 2017 (CNN)A group of prominent evangelical Christians are calling on President Donald Trump to take further steps to condemn white supremacists -- specifically those in the alt-right -- following the August white nationalist demonstration in Charlottesville, Virginia, that left one woman dead. A letter that has been circulating privately among a coalition of pastors notes Trump's efforts to denounce the white supremacists, but urges the President to go further in condemning the alt-right "by name." "This movement has escaped your disapproval," the letter, obtained exclusively by CNN, reads. "We believe it is important for this movement to be addressed, for at its core it is a white identity movement and the majority of its members are white nationalists or white supremacists. This movement gained public prominence during your candidacy for President of the United States. Supporters of the movement have claimed that you share their vision for our country. These same supporters have sought to use the political and cultural concerns of people of goodwill for their prejudiced political agendas. It concerned many of us when three people associated with the alt-right movement were given jobs in the White House." Initial signers of the letter include Southern Baptist Convention President Rev. Steve Gaines, former SBC President Rev. Fred Luter and the Rev. T.D. Jakes, a mentor of Trump's top spiritual adviser, Rev. Paula White. One member of Trump's informal Evangelical Advisory Board, Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, also signed the letter. The White House did not immediately return a request for comment. Trump was widely criticized for his response to the white nationalist demonstrations in Charlottesville, Virginia, last month after he claimed that "both sides" were to blame for violence and said there were "some very fine people" among the white nationalist protesters. "I've condemned neo-Nazis. I've condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me," Trump said during a press conference after the demonstrations. "You also had some very fine people on both sides." Trump signed a congressional resolution Sept. 14 that condemned the violence and renounced "white nationalists, white supremacists, the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis and other hate groups." "No matter the color of our skin or our ethnic heritage, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God," Trump said. But the signers of the letter are calling on Trump to take further steps to address the issue. "Our country desperately needs unifying leadership again," their letter reads. "We need you, President Trump, to lead us in such an effort. America needs your voice and your convictions to defeat racist ideologies and movements in every form that they present themselves. America is profoundly fractured and divided. We are praying, and call upon God's people to humble themselves and pray that you would take the bold and moral step to denounce the alt-right." The effort, a collaborative project drafted by Southern Baptists Rev. Dwight McKissic and Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary Dean Keith S. Whitfield, comes after the Southern Baptist Convention -- the nation's largest protestant denomination -- grappled with its own decision to condemn the alt-right earlier this year. At the denomination's annual meeting in June, Southern Baptists initially rejected an effort to condemn the alt-right, sparking an outcry among pastors who went on to force a vote on a resolution that condemned "every form of racism, including alt-right white supremacy." The resolution ultimately passed. Read the full letter below: OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT TRUMP FROM AMERICAN RELIGIOUS LEADERS: WE NEED YOU TO SPEAK Dear President Trump: The events that took place in Charlottesville, VA on August 12 grieved us. We were deeply troubled by the public display of racism on that day. It reminded us of a time years ago when such brazen displays of bigotry and white supremacy were common and were upheld by political leaders. We love the United States of America. We have overcome much racial injustice, but we fear that without moral clarity and courageous leadership that consistently denounces all forms of racism, we may lose the ground that we have gained toward the racial unity for which so many of us have fought. Our nation remains divided racially and ideologically. We struggle to stand together to denounce racial inequality and injustice in our country. Mr. President, you have, on occasion, denounced the KKK and the Neo-Nazis by name. And, on September 14, 2017, you signed a joint resolution condemning white supremacy. With your signature on that important statement, you also said, "No matter the color of our skin or our ethnic heritage, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God." We thank you for signing the resolution and for your words expressing the profound solidarity of the American people regardless of skin color and ethnic heritage. The joint resolution was needed to provide moral clarity that white supremacy and white nationalism are outside of American values—indeed, it is outside human values—and will not be accepted in our country. We are grateful that the resolution addresses your role, Mr. President, to "speak out against hate groups that espouse racism, extremism, xenophobia, anti-Semitism, and White supremacy." Further, we commend your commitment to "use all resources available to the President and the President's Cabinet to address the growing prevalence of those hate groups in the United States." Now, we respectfully call upon you to respond to the resolution by speaking out against the alt-right movement. This movement has escaped your disapproval. We believe it is important for this movement to be addressed, for at its core it is a white identity movement and the majority of its members are white nationalists or white supremacists. This movement gained public prominence during your candidacy for President of the United States. Supporters of the movement have claimed that you share their vision for our country. These same supporters have sought to use the political and cultural concerns of people of goodwill for their prejudiced political agendas. It concerned many of us when three people associated with the alt-right movement were given jobs in the White House. Alt-right ideology does not represent constitutional conservatism. The Constitution promotes the dignity and equality of all people. It maintains that we all have the ability to contribute to a just and free society. The alt-right, however, attributes the uniqueness and achievements of America to the so-called superior capacities and virtues of Anglo-Europeans. American Renaissance editor and alt-right leader Jared Taylor said, "The alt-right accepts that race is a biological fact and that it is a significant aspect of individual and group identity and that any attempt to create a society in which race can be made not to matter will fail." The core of the movement is the protection of white identity. Richard Spencer, a prominent leader in the alt-right movement, desires to transform our country into an ethno-state that serves as a gathering point for all Europeans. We request upon you to join with many other political and religious leaders to proclaim with one voice that the "alt-right" is racist, evil, and antithetical to a well-ordered, peaceful society. While addressing a political convention in Illinois in 1858, in a climate and country divided over slavery, Abraham Lincoln quoted Jesus, saying, "A house divided against itself cannot stand." The current and growing racial divide in America must be confronted, or the divided America of which Lincoln spoke will revisit us. We can see the haunting potential of this turn. Ferguson and Charlottesville may be a foreshadowing of things to come. We must set aside our political, ideological and racial differences, particularly on the issue of the alt-right. We cannot be divided and still defeat this new demonic racist force. Yes, it is time now for Christian churches to come together for the sake of the nation and the Kingdom of God. Recently, two major denominations, which have not always seen eye to eye on social and political issues, have come together on the issue of racial bigotry and injustice. In the aftermath of violence and protests in Charlottesville, leaders of these denominations called white supremacy and the alt-right racist and evil. Jerry Young, President of the National Baptist Convention USA, said white supremacy cannot be dismissed with moral ambivalence. He explains, "There are not two sides when it comes to white supremacy. It is a belief system that is anti-Christian at its core and must be repudiated without confusion." Steve Gaines, President of the Southern Baptist Convention, condemned the alt-right, describing the gathering in Charlottesville as "a gathering of hate, ignorance and bigotry" and stating the ideology violates core Christian beliefs. These are powerful and strong words coming from the leaders of two historic Baptist Conventions, denouncing the alt-right by name. We also need healing and unifying leadership from our political leaders. President George H.W. Bush and Pastor Edward Victor Hill II modeled this type of leadership for us 25 years ago. They worked together to address the shared pain of the African American community and the nation in the aftermath of the exoneration of the police officers associated with the Rodney King brutality. Our country desperately needs unifying leadership again. We need you, President Trump, to lead us in such an effort. America needs your voice and your convictions to defeat racist ideologies and movements in every form that they present themselves. America is profoundly fractured and divided. We can envision the change that could emerge if you would provide the moral leadership we so desperately need for racial healing. Our polarized nation could unite around your leadership on this critical issue. We are praying, and call upon God's people to humble themselves and pray that you would take the bold and moral step to denounce the alt-right. And we pray that we may see the beauty of people from all racial backgrounds dwelling together in unity, from which the blessings flow; and then we may see—God Bless America (Psalm 133:1). Respectfully, Dr. Danny Akin President Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary Wake Forest, NC Dr. Bruce Ashford Provost Professor of Theology and Culture Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary Wake Forest, NC Dr. Michael Bell Senior Pastor, Greater St. Stephens First Church Fort Worth, TX Rev. R. Marshall Blalock Pastor, First Baptist Church Charleston, SC Dr. René F. Brown Pastor, Mount Zion First Baptist Church Baton Rouge, LA Rev. Alan Cross Executive Director, Community Development Initiatives Missional Strategist, Montgomery Baptist Association Montgomery, AL Dr. Tony Evans Senior Pastor, Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship President of The Urban Alternative Dallas, TX. Dr. Nathan Finn Dean of the School of Theology and Missions, Union University Jackson, TN Dr. Robert E. Fowler Senior Pastor, Victory Missionary Baptist Church Las Vegas, NV Rev. Micah Fries Senior Pastor, Brainerd Baptist Church Chattanooga, TN Rev. James D. Gailliard Pastor, World Tabernacle Church President - The Impact Center Rocky Mount, NC Dr. Steve Gaines President of the Southern Baptist Convention Senior Pastor, Bellevue Baptist Church Cordova, TN. Dr. Ronnie W. Goines Founding Pastor, Koinonia Christian Church Arlington, TX Dr. J. D. Greear Pastor, The Summit Church Raleigh-Durham, NC Dr. Joel Gregory George W. Truett Endowed Chair in Preaching and Evangelism George W. Truett Theological Seminary of Baylor University Waco, TX Dr. T. D. Jakes Bishop of the Potter's House Dallas, TX Dr. John Jenkins Pastor, First Baptist Church of Glenarden Glenarden, MD Rev. Kenneth Jones Senior Pastor, Como First Missionary Baptist Church Fort Worth, TX Dr. Ed Litton Senior Pastor, Redemption Church Mobile, AL Dr. Fred Luter Pastor, Franklin Avenue Baptist Church New Orleans, LA Dr. Rayford E. 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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...monday-morning I was born in Oak Cliff. Here's the crime stats for the subdivision: -The overall crime rate in Oak Cliff is 35% higher than the national average. -For every 100,000 people, there are 10.57 daily crimes that occur in Oak Cliff. -In Oak Cliff you have a 1 in 26 chance of becoming a victim of any crime. So perhaps the niggers should fixate on.....nigging. Jebus hasn't fixed the nigging problem. There is a Church on every corner, and the area was 'dry' because of their religiosity...while drug dealing went on all around. There was a human head found in Kiest park when we were kids, a few weeks after we'd been taken from Cathy Lick school to some little picnic thing there, as we did every year....but not after the head was found, that ended Kiest Park. If Christ made creatures anew, that wouldn't be the case. I started realizing that when I was very little, really sunk in around age 11 that these 'people' were not redeemable, and should never outnumber you. Typical story out of extremely Christian Oak Cliff: "7 dead in 5 days" (one of them for $5): http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/7-die...llas/184968188
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One Big Mudtastic yet Retardedly Happy Fambly (or chain of fools...)
The Christian vision of diversity:
Roman Emperor Constantine made Christianity the dominant religion of the Roman Empire. That was the beginning of the doctrine of inclusion and diversity, as most prior religion was ethno-centric. This was a religion where Jew and Gentile and Pagan could be appeased to be one big happy, compliant family. ...Reminds me of a Christianity Today three part story that discusses renting church space to third worlders. They even admit--ever so slightly--the rea$on: "..For example, a declining church might need income, and immigrant congregations may want nothing more than space for worship. Both parties must admit this bottom-line need honestly rather than euphemizing it as something more spiritual, or frustrations will fester. But material need is not the only motivation for renting. I have discovered at least two others. Renting as benevolence is today’s focus.." 'Renting as benevolence'. Lol. The church brings these people into the United States and uses them for slave labor. The church rents to them in their homelands and keeps their loyalties to the church via very small doling out of food and med care. This gives Westerners access to the resources in those countries, like oil and agribusiness. Meanwhile, the doctrine of diversity destroys Whites, both biologically and in terms of progress in their own countries. NOthing Benevolent About It. From part two of the article, interesting verbiage: "..Limits of Renting as Benevolence: Renting as benevolence or for material gain are just two types of rental relationships. In any form, renting lies at the end of the spectrum that least exemplifies the inclusive discipline of border crossing that Jesus modeled. However, when undertaken with eyes wide open, it can work for certain purposes. The really good news is that renting for benevolence can deeply bless both host and immigrant congregations. Generous hospitality has a way of building trust, which leads to even better relationships than people originally set out to establish. Next time, I’ll address a third type: renting as preparation..." 'Border crossing' modeled by gawd himself. http://www.christianitytoday.com/eds...res-part-.html It may pay in the short term, Christy McJebus, but it will co$t in the long-run.
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Texas Zionist Christinsanity, Y'all
^^A bit dated now, but they have the same agenda post the Dubya years. These psychos intend to be as powerful as AIPAC, called the Christians United for Israel. Fatboy gets his anti-Iran on early in the vid, as this is about politics, resources, and $, not 'spiritual development', and always has been. Always will be. But people who do not understand that can believe in this stuff with complete sincerity, and they are some of the most dangerous people--to themselves and others--since they enable the Hagees of the world to fill stadiums, and fund their anti-White insanity.
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(adapted from this thread) (btw, here is a really great older thread)
Rejecting Christianity and exterminating the jews are essential to the full health of the White race. Everything else is conservative-like marginal reform, at best. Christianity is false. No god-as-man arose from the dead. That's a fairy tale. How can a fairy tale be anything other than the downfall of those who confuse it with real life? Historically (if you look at the past four millennia, i.e., the scale of Arthur Kemp's The March of the Titans: A History of the White Race), Christianity was a disaster for the White race, which once thrived and created on every continent. Brainwashing by this Semitic religion is, arguably, the worst disaster the White race has experienced (an internal, psychological disaster) since the recession of the glaciers.* Christianity, in this long view, was a rotten barrier to the Semitic race's takeover of European lands. Whites now stand at something like 6% to 14% of world population only. One of the key effects of Christianity was its shifting of the White mind from the real to the unreal in a comprehensive way. It jammed the White head up the White you-know-what probably more deeply than it had ever been, making a "virtue" of rejection of the real world. The ultimate result has been our defeat by racial enemies (fundamentally the Semitic race which injected this religion into us in the first place). Yes, the poison took time to take effect and become "pathological altruism" - but taken effect it has. Essential to Christian "virtue" is refusing to raise a hand against enemies. Despite all the "Deus Vult" LARPing - and despite everything that worldly popes or priests in the past had to do and say in times of war in order to steal for their churches or just to survive the initiatives of the secular arm - Christian scripture is clear. You are to love your enemy, turn your cheek, and resist not evil. That is Christ's way. Scourging moneychangers was not the fulfillment of Christ's mission - the fulfillment was allowing his enemies to crucify him. That's what the cross means: don't fight, die. That's characterized as a "modern liberal" interpretation of Christianity, but this is a lie told by governments in order to sell various jew wars to our people. When Christians fight, they are behaving otherwise than Christ did in his ultimate, defining action. They are not Christian. Christianity is about giving up the world.** A residue of tribal health and strength in Whites rejects pathological (actually suicidal) altruism, but this rejection is at odds with the cross. The cross especially forbids lifting a hand against the Semitic race - our murderers. Counter-murdering them is "morally wrong." It's anti-Christian. You will supposedly BURN IN HELL if you put down this pestilent branch of hominids, just like the Cro-Magnons burned in hell after they genocided the Neanderthals. Anyone who has thoroughly studied the JQ knows that there isn't a Jewish Question, just a Jewish Answer: extermination. This run of creatures has been tried for being toxic to all others, and found guilty, a million times in the past, say, two millennia. The only questions involve technical means.*** Are you a bad person if you put down a rabid dog? No. So are you a bad person if you put down a rabid race? The Christian answer to that question is ineluctable: but they are our brothers and sisters in God! it's a sin! turn the other cheek! reach out in love! etc. In other words, Christianity is in place to protect the jews and nothing else. (To be exact, it's in place to protect Semites - i.e., jews and most muslims - and their support system of degenerates in every race. What about the ill? Every tribe, Christian or not, cares for its ill in its own way.) To repeat: rejecting Christianity and exterminating the jews are essential to the full health of the White race. _____ * Richard Spencer alludes to this, starting at 27:12 here. ** The LARPing beat goes on, though. Here's the latest muh Jesusing. [Interestingly, the listing for this book seems to have been removed from the website of Arktos publishing house.] *** The technical means are hypothetically not too difficult. See video here starting at 9:51.
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I'd say that one thing for Whites who are Jew aware to understand is that, not only do you have a situation where Whites would be upset to hear the extermination proposal, but you have a situation where they cannot hear the word 'Jew' and allow you to think critically about there being a 'Jew' problem in the first place. They cannot even hear, let alone discuss, anything whatsoever that is Jew-critical without having an observable 'recoil' reaction, and that is due to a lifetime of programming, largely religious. You take a small child and tell them a nice Jewish man suffered for his/her sins. Tell him/her he was born bad, but no worries, the Jew forgives. Tell him/her the Jew will return to Israel when other Jews believe in him, because they are the 'apple of god's eye' and to hate them is to hate god himself. Tell him/her Germans murdered Jews for no reason whatsoever, just cuz they are diabolical an' sheit. Play sad violin music with the Jewish victim imagery via film and television, and use cuter, Whiter people to play Jew so there is a 'feeling' of compassion that would not naturally occur from a more rat-like appearing person. ...eventually, into adulthood, you have 'conditioned' that person to be unable to even so much as entertain a discussion about Jews and what is wrong with them being the head of the World Bank, and owning over 90% of mass media. So there is not just a matter of educating: there's a matter of breaking programming from decades of indoctrination with false narratives to even begin to really move forward. That is why religion is an effective tool to thwart progress, and control people via mental mechanisms long after they've left. It actually takes time to alter ones thinking to truly be their own again. Jebus removal can be instant with facts, but the residue of the toxic thinking takes longer to abate.
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I found the level of christ-inanity on display in Shelbyville to be the most disheartening thing about my trip to Tennessee. The sight of the physically strong Michael Tubbs kneeling in a bank parking lot as Michael Hill prayed to a Hebrew idol makes me shudder in hindsight, but I confess that I myself added to the chorus of contradictions by striking in my pipes and playing Amazing Grace before we set off down the hill to submit ourselves to further humiliations at the hands of ZOG's badge fags.
Coming back home and listening to nothing but non-stop kvetching about nothing deeper than appearances gives me little reason to hold out hope for a people to whom the reconciliation of ideological self-contradictions is of less importance than apparel selection. I made the mistake of marching into Shelbyville in shirt sleeves, but it will be a cold day in hell before I march into a race war with an army of ideologically hamstrung hypocrites. |
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If this was old Christianity like one in Crusades maybe it would be acceptable but like this not.
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Just off the top of my head the Catholic pope was heming and hawing as the mongols was invading the West. Every White person alive today owe their existence to Charles the Hammer who organized the defense of Europe, not the goddamn church. I have 100s of good posts out there on Christinsanity through the years. Here is some good advice - avoid getting bogged down debating Jewish scriptures with the Hebe want-a-be's. There are far better ways to debate these morons. Last edited by Randolph Dilloway; January 14th, 2018 at 02:29 AM. |
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Best way to expose Christinsanity is to go back to it's roots as a drug cult in the first century.
Quotes from Celsus, first century Roman who wrote the first book attacking Christinsanity is another good source. I will find those quotes. For now, here is a little background on Joseph Smith and Black Pete and how they were able to create visions for their early congregation of morons. Used to have a great thread exposing the early Mormon church @ CensorFront, but I cannot find it anymore. Did find this old post here on VNN back in February 2011: http://www.i4m.com/think/history/holy-ghost.htm. (Link no longer works?) From the book that details Joseph Smith's use of entheogens to create visions among his early congregation of morons: Joseph Smith's Access and Training in Entheogens How available were entheogens to Joseph Smith? In 1998, Richard Evans Schultes, former director of the Botanical Museum of Harvard University and the “father of ethnobotany” identified three culturally important entheogens available in the area Joseph lived and traveled: Datura plant, Amanita muscaria mushroom and peyote cactus. C. Jess Groesbeck has shown that the model of Joseph Smith as a shamanic personality is a comprehensible way to understand and embrace Joseph’s life and work. (C. Jess Groesbeck. The Shaman’s Visions. Sunstone Symposium 1985; Joseph Smith And The Translation Of The Book Of Mormon, A Huichol Indian Parallel) Algonquin Indian shamans inhabiting the region from the Atlantic seaboard running north through eastern and central Canada and south to the Ohio River are known to have used both Datura plant and Amanita Muscaria mushroom in their religious ceremonies. https://www.erowid.org/library/books...g141-150.shtml Since Jess Groesbeck has shown that many aspects of Joseph Smith’s visionary career is consistent with Amerindian shamanism, it is possible that Joseph Smith was mentored by an Algonquin shaman. John Heinerman has demonstrated Joseph Smith’s interest in Thomsonian herbal medicine. Thomsonian medicine was inspired by early American root doctors using magical plants to occasion cures. According to Catherine Yronwode, “root doctoring” is an admixture of the hoodoo magical practices of African-American slaves mingled with the botanical knowledge of the Amerindian medicine man. Root doctors are known to have used the visionary Datura plant in their magical practices. (http://www.ubersite.com/m/82759) A possible mentor for Joseph Smith in the use of Datura was Black Pete. Black Pete, an African-American was called a revelator and a chief suggesting that he was also a root doctor. Black Pete was initially from Pennsylvania and in 1825 may have met the young Joseph Smith digging for buried treasure. After leaving Pennsylvania, Black Pete became one of the earliest converts in Kirtland Ohio joining the Church in early 1831. As an early convert to Mormonism, Black Pete was described as "a chief man" who was "sometimes seized with strange vagaries and odd conceits." On at least one occasion Pete fancied he could "fly" and later recollections have him chasing "a ball that he said he saw flying in the air" or "revelations carried by a black angel." (Dialogue, Vol.12, No.2, p.24) Black Pete was present during the Kirtland visionary period of early 1831 when the strange manifestations likely associated with Datura plant ingestion were particular pronounced. (Bushman, R. L. (2005). Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling. New York: Alfred A. Knopf. P. 107, 131) LDS Historians D. Michael Quinn and Lance S. Owens have shown that Joseph Smith incorporated elements of ceremonial magic and alchemy imported from Europe. (Bushman, R. L. (2005). Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling. New York: Alfred A. Knopf. P. 107, 131) Alchemists are believed to have employed the visionary Amanita muscaria mushroom in their occult practices and historian Lance Owens identifies a possible alchemical mentor for Joseph Smith by the name of Dr. Luman Walter. Owens explains: Dr. Walter was a distant cousin of Smith's future wife [Emma] and a member of the circle associated with Smith's early treasure quests. By contemporary reports he was not only a physician, but a magician and mesmerist who had traveled extensively in Europe to obtain "profound learning"--probably including knowledge of alchemy, Paracelcian medicine, and hermetic lore. (Lance Owens 1994a.) |
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Fun facts....
There were some 120 gospels of the Christ. The earliest ones were Gnostic (the Christ was a spirit), later ones that gave the Christ a name and a jewish background did not appear until around 150 A.D.
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Christianity and Cultural Marxism are 2 peas from the same jewish pod.
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The Catholic Church also made the kikes wealthy. They might have gone after low level ghetto jews, but at the same time they were putting themselves in debt to jewish bankers. The Catholic Church was never opposed to jews as a racial group, only Judaism. They were perfectly OK with racially jewish converts, of which there were many.
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Various popes were anti masonic and communist, but come on they had immense power in Europe for what over 1500 years? The catholic church like the rest of the institutions were infiltrated from within and destroyed so these popes who put out edicts against masonry and communism didn't do their full duty. They, these popes had such power at one time and even today I bet if the pope told his hardcore followers to do anything they would do it. So with all this power they couldn't break the masons/commies infiltration and he just didn't order his followers to eradicate them? some leader..... and these popes are supposed to be the holiest men on earth? pffft pathetic. Could it be they are more interested in money then real matters of state or just keeping the status quo?
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January 17th, 2018 | #1180 |
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Im sure there were some popes and high level catholics that did fight against the jew and understood their threat. I give credit to the most anti yid purgers and destroyers of synagogues and the like. I am not sure who can lay claim to being the most anti jewish pope or the pope that did some good for European people, after all these were just men of power. I guess maybe when the pope called for christians/crusaders to kill the saracen race? Still all the power in Europe and you couldn't tell the 1 million vs 1 odds of your followers to stamp out the yids completely? Something tells me there is a reason the pope and kings went against the Templars.... I mean what was their fear if they got rid of the jews they wouldn't have anyone to shyster and shake down for money?
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