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Old August 28th, 2010 #1
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I would like some insight as to what local and regional politics are like.

I would highly value reflections on experience from those of you who have seen it first-hand, whether you've run for an office or just been part of campaigns.

As a man of late 20's now, I may consider future political ambitions, and would like to know what is potent and worth focusing on, what is met with deaf ears and worthless, and what is crucial to avoid.

More particularly, what is key in building from an unknown to an ardent following. We saw this with Ron Paul running with his anti-fed message, but this was capitalizing on a trend with the internet. The tea party fervor and rise to prominence I cannot explain, since I do not keep up with them.

Is this more or less about putting on a nice suit, getting the John Edwards special $500 haircut, speaking clearly and confidently, and twisting the emotional knife in the most presently talked about trends? Is that the supposed "blueprint to cultivating a political following" today?
 
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What are you trying to do? That's your first question to settle.

You trying to be an ordinary system pol? Then it's about cultivating the right connections, telling people what they want to hear, looking good for the female voters, and strong for the males.

The basic problem with democracy as it exists today is it rewards superior liars. The ultimate politician is a Bill Clinton - someone who can sit down at a picnic table with two ordinary people on opposing sides of an issue, and get up and walk away with both of them thinking he supports their side. When you can do that, you are a master liar, and the spoils of the system are yours. Lying plausibly to the common man, while taking contributions from the rich man - these are the staples of democratic politics.
 
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So. The effective speaker who looks good for the women, and strong for the men, and isn't willing to back down on his positions, and has enough intellect and speaking strength to stomp down the run of the mill competition, has two options:

Shabbos Goyim

or

Shot at Goyim

Maybe this is a bad idea!

Agreed on Clinton. Biden is another one. I just watched a video of him on youtube, and like every video I've seen of Biden, he is such a down to earth asskisser that even the comments on youtube think he is awesome.

Funny thing is, there's a commonality among these run of the mill politicians. They really don't say much off the cuff. Everything they say is canned, said before, proven to be safe words. When they are caught in off camera moments, they are very vague, general, avoiding any depth.

I get the feeling these guys sleep with a copy of Napoleon Hills "Win Friends & Influence People" under their bed, because that book is the supposed granddaddy of people skill books, and after you waste time reading it, you're left realizing the message is just to act like you're interested, say fewer words, and preferably ask questions.

Or, be a condescending ass kiss that doesn't talk about yourself, without seeming like a condescending ass kiss that doesn't talk about yourself.

Yep. That's politicians.

In fact, that seems like a lot of people in high positions in life today. In the private and public sector. Everything is canned. These politicians don't even write their own speeches anymore, and all interviews are canned as well.
 
Old August 28th, 2010 #4
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So. The effective speaker who looks good for the women, and strong for the men, and isn't willing to back down on his positions, and has enough intellect and speaking strength to stomp down the run of the mill competition, has two options:

Shabbos Goyim

or

Shot at Goyim

Maybe this is a bad idea!
It merely means you haven't seriously considered what you're talking about.

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Agreed on Clinton. Biden is another one. I just watched a video of him on youtube, and like every video I've seen of Biden, he is such a down to earth asskisser that even the comments on youtube think he is awesome.
Yes, Biden is good. The point is, they all are. That's the democratic politician's 'comparative advantage' in relation to other people: they are very, very good liars. That's one of the top qualities System politics awards.

To succeed in System politics, you have to understand where the lines are that you can't cross. Understand what can be said and can't. If you accept these limitations, then it becomes a function of how good looking you are, how much money you command, how well you can speak, and in addition to these personal qualities, whatever the particular circumstances of the parties in the district you want to run in. As for positions, there are two general ones, the Democrat and the Republican. Of course, on the essentials, both parties agree, since that is the basis of the System. Of course anything racial is off the table. Even the upstarts like Ron Paul will go along with that! Within this System it would either be impossible to turn things in a White direction, or it would take a genius of such staggering proportions that I can't conceive of such a person actually existing.

Even ordinary politicians are strong and tough enough. We of course routinely dismiss them as weak sellouts, which is in many cases true enough. But moral and intellectual consistency and strength do not help in democratic politics. They hurt. Because the small-minded majority moves by whims and fashions, and anyone holding to principle will find himself against them while needing their vote. If he doesn't like lying, and he does value intellectual consistency, then he's in the wrong business. But let us at the same time acknowledge that these politicians while weak are also strong. Their schedules are incredibly tough. Their days are filled with meetings, breakfasts, lunches, dinners, speeches, hearings, parties, press conferences. In all of which they have to play an act, whether formally or informally. It is incredibly taxing and takes a true thoroughbred to keep up with. Anyone who wants to buck this system not only must make his way through a sea of unprincipled, extremely high-energy liars with jew experts behind them with a vast knowledge of White neutralization techniques through law, media and physical coercion. Not an easy thing to defeat, this System.

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Funny thing is, there's a commonality among these run of the mill politicians. They really don't say much off the cuff. Everything they say is canned, said before, proven to be safe words. When they are caught in off camera moments, they are very vague, general, avoiding any depth.
That's a function of both the times we live in (ubiquitous media = one-slip career shipwreck), and the nature of democracy itself: taking a position, ANY position except pro-baby and pro-flag, offends half your constituency. To the extent you stand for something, you alienate the people you need votes from. Safer to stick to generalities they will more or less agree with, and hope they take this for indication you support the specifics they favor.

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I get the feeling these guys sleep with a copy of Napoleon Hills "Win Friends & Influence People" under their bed, because that book is the supposed granddaddy of people skill books, and after you waste time reading it, you're left realizing the message is just to act like you're interested, say fewer words, and preferably ask questions.
Yep. Turn youself into a beige carpet, and let the other guy arrange his furniture on you. Have no personality, simply mirror the person you're talking to, be passive and let them dominate, and they will think you are interesting. BTW, you mean Dale Carnegie's book, not Napoleon Hill, that was Think and Get Rich, if I recall correctly. Another good phrase for people like Clinton, who are perpetually ingratiating themselves, is 'measuring everything (they say) against its immediate reception.' That's one reason these pols hestitate, and tend to speak in three-word clumps. Not just because their listeners are retards who need spoon feeding, but for the same reason you dip a toe rather than dive in. The minute your words draw a coolish response, you can immediately retreat. So there are neutral, mechanical reasons you literally never find principle in politics, maybe one in a million. Principled people in democratic politics do exist, it's just their principle is I-ought-to-be-running-things, and they really do believe that and never sway from it. It's the only principle a democratic politician will never sell out.

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Or, be a condescending ass kiss that doesn't talk about yourself, without seeming like a condescending ass kiss that doesn't talk about yourself.

Yep. That's politicians.
That's democratic politicians. All pols have to flatter their audiences to an extent, but not to the extent democratic pols do. Think of Hitler. He actually was a democratic pol, but in a very different setting, when seriousness was more common than today. In times of true crisis, even the dumb public develops a taste for blunt, meaningful talk from would-be leaders. He could dare tell people things. Lecture to them. Browbeat. Speak honestly about what he intended. Today, you can't really do that. Or at least, no one does that. I think it could work under circumstances I've described, but not really within the System, altho using it to some extent. What made Hitler unusual, as I posted in the other thread, was people believing he meant what he said, his perceived honesty and in particular his guilelessness. And his serious, divisive stands on issues of vital (life and death) importance. The last American pol who actually dared lecture his audience was Robert F. Kennedy. No one since then dares anything but kissing their ass, because the public are mostly a bunch of retarded babies with very thin skin, and they will cry if you tell them what's what. All they want to know is how great they are, and how many things you will steal for them, cuz they deserve them, and it's their right to have them. The System, through mass media and public schools, has created the type it needs to keep itself in power, and any pol speaking as though his listeners are serious adults will soon be out of office.

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In fact, that seems like a lot of people in high positions in life today. In the private and public sector. Everything is canned. These politicians don't even write their own speeches anymore, and all interviews are canned as well.
They use tested phrases only, like any product-seller would. All this stuff is long ago scientifically worked out, to the extent it can be. Whatever appeals to the most and offends the least is what they're going to do. Anything else reduces their chances of winning or holding office.

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Old August 28th, 2010 #5
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How to Win Fiends and Influence People was by Dale Carnegie.

Napoleon Hill wrote Think and Grow Rich.
 
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Thanks for that post Mr. Linder. I agree. I've come to many similar conclusions. It's nice to see them well-worded and concise.

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Within this System it would either be impossible to turn things in a White direction, or it would take a genius of such staggering proportions that I can't conceive of such a person actually existing.
This is the center of my thoughts in thinking of running for office for over a year now.

I don't want to carry the title of liar, hypocrite, Shabbos Goy, or any of the other well-deserved monikers for the people in Washington today.

It is amazing, as you've pointed out, the full schedules they have, as actors. A 24/7 convincing act to make sure you're saying the right thing to the right people. Tough and weak indeed.

I wish I could get in the head of a Joe Biden for just a day. Just to see if he's saying what I think he's saying: "My people? White people? They're fucked man! No point trying to save them! Just get Wolfowitz over here to write you a nice check for your latest performance, and get your family in a nice gated community. What? I'm a sellout? Have you actually gone outside and looked at and talked to some white people lately?"

And I'd probably succumb to that logic, because God knows him and many like him have probably spent DECADES dwelling on it. It's hard to argue with today. Isn't it? Sure. You want to save it. But is there anything left to save? Is it still white people with white values? The Occidental man? Buried beneath a modern Jewified crust?

P.S.: Yes, it was Dale Carnegie. Sorry. Even though I'm not a fan of Dale Carnegie or WF&IP, I vehemently abhor Napoleon Hill's Think & Grow Rich. That book is the master tome that all cheesy motivational speakers and bizop guru scammers emanate from. Written by a guy who never made money in anything other than writing his how to make money book, and ironically, died poor. He is the hero to all of these wannabe entrepreneurs who buy autoresponder service and spam our email boxes with how they made 5000 in 5 minutes.

I went through a phase where I studied a lot of internet marketing and copywriting (before I realized it felt too damn cheap and dirty to actually become one of them), and those two books were the bibles to that crowd.
 
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How to Win Fiends and Influence People was by Dale Carnegie.
A strangely appropriate typo.
 
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As a man of late 20's now, I may consider future political ambitions, and would like to know what is potent and worth focusing on, what is met with deaf ears and worthless, and what is crucial to avoid.
you're wasting your time. this isn't "our" system any more. you would be wise to spend your energy and money on trying to relocate yourself to an all white area and having a large white family living in an all white community that is likewise racially aware and anti feminist.
 
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Politics is about noses and nickels. You have to have a lot of either one just to be in contention.
 
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I wish I could get in the head of a Joe Biden for just a day. Just to see if he's saying what I think he's saying: "My people? White people? They're fucked man! No point trying to save them! Just get Wolfowitz over here to write you a nice check for your latest performance, and get your family in a nice gated community. What? I'm a sellout? Have you actually gone outside and looked at and talked to some white people lately?"
All they think about is their own status: what will make them more powerful, richer, more influential, more/better regarded by the media/in the papers. They don't think about race at all beyond have-to-love-niggers, have-to-love-Israel. Few other have tos: have-to-support-the-troops, have-to-support-Social-Security. Reps face election every two years, so every moment they're not thinking about elevating their profile they're thinking about raising money for their next campaign. Basically, the campaign never ends. What's not left over is any time to think about what's actually good for the country.

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And I'd probably succumb to that logic, because God knows him and many like him have probably spent DECADES dwelling on it. It's hard to argue with today. Isn't it? Sure. You want to save it. But is there anything left to save? Is it still white people with white values? The Occidental man? Buried beneath a modern Jewified crust?
Whites are the same as they ever were. The genetic substrate is what matters, and it doesn't really change. A handful of unpolluted whites set free on an empty continent will remake the world. The indoctrination is superficial. It changes with authority. Genetic pollution is a problem, but there's not much to do about except control your own behavior, warn others, and work for the power to replace existing authorities and the lies they spew.

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I went through a phase where I studied a lot of internet marketing and copywriting (before I realized it felt too damn cheap and dirty to actually become one of them), and those two books were the bibles to that crowd.
People want to get rich without earning it. Your heart should be in the right place, in business as in anything else. Concentrate on providing a valuable service, and the money will take care of itself. Maybe not the millions you envision, but enough. If you want to make millions, then do it honestly: become a successful speculator in something, not a scammer.

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Old August 29th, 2010 #11
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The Rolodex Kid was the nickname of George Bush Sr., 41st President of the United States of America. Bush was allegedly awarded the sobriquet by Time Magazine during his early rise to power for his fanatical devotion to entering the name of every person he ever met into his Rolodex and finding a way to keep in contact with them.

This is possibly the ultimate example of the efficacy of networking. Guess who inherited his Rolodex.

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Exercising political power consists of making laws, bylaws and regulations, enforcing them, and distributing and managing taxation.

You might also want to consider electable positions in general, rather than just politics in the sense of political parties, per se. That widens the field of operations considerably.
In the US join the NRA, Rotary, and the Republicans.
In the UK and elsewhere, Rotary, the Conservatives, and/or their equivalents.
What you think about them is irrelevant. Most whites are involved in these parties, they operate in mostly White areas, and the concentration of homos and Jews and weirdos is far less.

You will find probably 1 in a hundred party members actually know what their parties policies and postions are.
Make sure that you do know, and you will automatically advance to the front of the pack.
Join as many working groups, committees etc as possible. That is where real power lies.

Positions on school boards, county commissioners etc are not negligible, and serve as good training grounds. Hold as many as possible. Once you chair one or two organisations, you are automatically considered for that level when you join other organisations and committees, preferably where the chair is a year or so away from retirement/end of term of office.

If you belong to a traditional church, Catholic or Episcopalian say, and are seen to be church friendly, you will have their backing, and they usually have the power to put people into positions at local level, as most local business leaders belong to churches, whether they believe or not. Jews and queers will also tend to avoid you, which is helpful.

Make sure that the political unit be it ward/constituency is in the parish area of your church, and that there isn't a synagogue in the ward/constituency. If there is, you will be up against the entire Jewish community, and will lose.

If there isn't, Jew activity and presence will be low, they will usually delegate it to the local queers and lesbians, most of whom only last for a year or two, so no matter how formidable they may seem, they usually die out very quickly, or go to prison for drugs, and you simply need to outlast them.

You will find most activists are semi-retired or retired men, and middle aged to elderly women.

You need to be seen as :
1) church friendly
2) anti-abortion
3) anti animal cruelty
4) most importantly very heavily in favour of benefits for elderly folk, retirement homes, orphanages, disabled, hospices etc. If so, these people will back you to the hilt, and most people running these organisations are very good people, exceptionally capable organisers and experts at raising funds, networking etc.

You will actually need to work very hard.
Contrary to popular opinion, real politics is extremely exhausting, and very active.

Basically just be a nice, friendly, normal, dependable person. Such are sadly few and far between, and people will gravitate to you, you will have solid support, many activists, and are almost home dry.

It all depends upon where one is in the world, personal background, qualifications, field of interest etc but with regards to enforcing laws etc positions, often electable, such as magistrate, sheriff and executive mayor are first prize.

These may appear laughable at first, and the media has deliberately created the impression they are unobtainable to reduce competition for the Jews, but once one investigates, the positions are actually within reach of most people capable of holding executive positions within any large organisation.You would be shocked to see how little is required for some of these positions, again depending on the type of area involved etc.

The power and influence these positions wield is immense, at local level.

Laws and budgets made higher up, often affecting millions of Whites, are carried out, or not, by the people holding these three positions.

Another very powerful position at local level, is Town/city manager.
As such, you would be in charge of budgets of hundreds of millions, often billions of zogbucks, and determine the quality of life for certainly thousands, often millions of whites.

The world is changing, and major cities are more powerful, and have higher populations, than many countries.

The budgeting department in the civil service at municipal level actually decides what all the various departments will or won't be doing that year.

Other positions at policy development and strategic planning level or strategic planning department are equally crucial.

One must learn above all else, when to keep one's mouth shut, though this applies to all executive positions.

Even if not within reach immediately, these as long term goals are most beneficial to whites, attainable, and serve as excellent foundations for expanding into higher positions, at state/national level.

No matter what position you aim for in life, at the higher levels, they all revolve around budgets and finance, and a degree in this field will serve you well anywhere in the world.

With regards to political party positions, there are two streams, within the party, and representing the party and public.

The positionsinternally within the party are more powerful than elected positions, because the internal party positions decide who may stand for election, and can and will take you down in need, regardless of whether you have been elected or not.

Again the positions in the finance, policy and planning areas are the most powerful.
These positions together with thinktanks draw up the policies, legislation, decide on party positions etc that elected representatives are required to follow.

The elected representative in truth has all the appearance of power, but none of the substance.

Policy, law etc is carried out by the civil service, or not, and most politicians are in posiitons for so short a period, they have almost no real impact at all.

Parties and politicians come and go, the civil service department heads smile at them, agree with all that they say, make large visible token gestures of compliance, then carry out their own agendas.

Sheriffs, judges and magistrates between them actually decide what the law is, and often make it themselves.

Jews at local level are also few in most local areas, and are the lower, more stupid kinds of Jew. They are also generally just starting out on their road of corruption, perversion and crime.
Make friends with someone in the sheriffs department, and investigators in the revenue office.
Most sheriffs achieve their positions with church backing.

These two can make short work of any Jew giving you a problem, without the Jew even knowing in most cases.
Whenever you encounter Jews at this level, they have usually committed tax evasion, committed fraud with regard to contracts between state and businesses, and have or will commit some act of sexual perversion. Often the Jews you meet at this level are homos.

Remember that these are positions where you need to act slowly, covertly, strategically and need to be able to operate under extreme pressure.

You will need to almost be schizophrenic, though most of us today have had to learn to do so anyway, and hide your revulsion at what you must say and do at times.
Our cause is just, but the means we often have to employ are often best left unknown and kept in darkness.

That is the nature of struggle, silent, and in the shadows, until we reach critical mass, at which time the tipping point is reached, and we then operate more openly.

If I may, a few words of advice.

Sanitise your home, business everywhere, so that a squad of jews will not find a single publication or symbol that could possibly raise any suspicion.
Separate from any friends family etc who are likely to hinder you.
Look, dress and sound like the chairs and leaders of the organisation you are in.
YOu have no friends.
You confide in no-one, not even your wife. A divorce would, I guarantee you, result in everything you ever said being repeated.

Move slowly, carefully, and above all, learn to keep your mouth shut.

Once you start to progress, your background, friends, work record etc will be checked, without your knowledge or consent, by professionals, who want to find out dirt on you.
Make sure you and those around can withstand such an investigation.
In politics, you are known by the company you keep.

Once you step into this arena, you are completely and utterly alone.
You have then stepped into the very core of the struggle, where it is its most deadly and vicious.
That is why we need to be in this arena, precisely because it is so difficult.

A good resource is here

http://www.ndi.org/resourcecontent/Manual|Handbook

and some particularly valuable publications are listed hereunder, that you would be well advised to know well, precisely because they come from the left.

When you know and understand these, you will be more than capable of acting as a branch and constituency chair of a party, and welcomed into all NGOs.

Take three months or so, study hard, think carefully, sanitise your life in need, and then begin.
Good luck.

ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR NGOs- Toolkit
http://www.ndi.org/files/1839_gongtoolkit.pdf

A Guide to Political Party Development
http://www.ndi.org/files/2297_handbo...fen_041108.pdf

Preparing for Success: Tools, Methods and Strategies for Electoral Campaigns
http://www.ndi.org/files/_strategies...ign_120103.pdf

Lobbying Parliament: A Guide for NGO's
http://www.ndi.org/files/2048_ww_lob...010205_eng.pdf

Political Party Training Manual
http://www.ndi.org/files/2181_politi...063007_eng.pdf

Nonviolent Struggle - 50 Crucial Points A Strategic Approach to Everyday Tactics and CANVAS Core Curriculum
http://www.canvasopedia.org/legacy/c...cial/index.htm

Protest and Persuassion
http://www.canvasopedia.org/protest-and-persuassion.php

NonCooperation
http://www.canvasopedia.org/noncooperation.php

NonViolent Intervention
http://www.canvasopedia.org/nonviolent-intervention.php
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Secede. Control taxbases/municipalities. Use boycotts, divestment, sanctions, strikes.
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An invaluable post Hugh.

Thank you for a bit more clarity on an ideal direction for those of us with political ambitions.

To this point, I have been combing over a lot of great political speeches, watching footage, trying to get a feel for the common characteristics of these politicians, on the exterior and interior. I've always had an interest in influential writing and speaking, but I know that alone is not enough.

I haven't spent nearly enough time on resources like those you've posted. Those resources, after the brief glance I've seen, seem like the kind to truly help build the guts and knowledge of a potential politician, so he can - as you say - fend for himself in an arena where he can trust nobody. I could see needing at least a solid three months of studying that kind of material.

Many thanks for those gems. Time to read.

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