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Old October 11th, 2013 #1
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Default Warning: Enrolling In Obamacare Allows Government To Link Your IP Address With Your Name, Social Security Number, Bank A

It is actually a government-run Trojan Horse that suckers people into creating accounts where they hand over:

• Name and address
• Email address and password
• Social security number
• Private bank account details
• Employer details and other information

During the enrollment process, your computer also hands over your IP address which is then tied to your social security number.

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Old October 11th, 2013 #2
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All that info you 'voluntarily' submitted allows the IRS to determine how much of a 'subsidy' you qualify for. At least the supreme court ruled that it was a tax.

If any of that bothers you, it might be time to learn how to use a proxy.
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Old October 11th, 2013 #3
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Uh, what?

Your IP address is given to every website you visit, that's how the Internet works.

I don't see why people signing up for Obamacare wouldn't expect them to know their name, address, or SS#, considering it is a government program.

The rest seems like sensationalism and conjecture. The article doesn't give any source about the claim that your IP address is linked to your SS# through the Obamacare site.

The article seems like it was written by an Alex Jones type who has no understanding of what the Internet is, what IP addresses are, uses scary sounding implications, and doesn't know how to give sources for anything he claims.

The leaks about the NSA that have come out show that they wouldn't even need you to sign up on a "trojan horse" site to get all that information anyway. They basically have a wiretap on the main Internet routers and can watch everything going through the stream.

Why not just say that? Instead of inventing reasons to tie obamacare to something completely unrelated.
 
Old October 17th, 2013 #4
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Uh, what?

Your IP address is given to every website you visit, that's how the Internet works.

I don't see why people signing up for Obamacare wouldn't expect them to know their name, address, or SS#, considering it is a government program.

The rest seems like sensationalism and conjecture. The article doesn't give any source about the claim that your IP address is linked to your SS# through the Obamacare site.

The article seems like it was written by an Alex Jones type who has no understanding of what the Internet is, what IP addresses are, uses scary sounding implications, and doesn't know how to give sources for anything he claims.

The leaks about the NSA that have come out show that they wouldn't even need you to sign up on a "trojan horse" site to get all that information anyway. They basically have a wiretap on the main Internet routers and can watch everything going through the stream.

Why not just say that? Instead of inventing reasons to tie obamacare to something completely unrelated.
The IRS has been collecting all of the mentioned data (except IP addresses) since 1913. As varg observes, anyone who doesn't realize since Snowden that the feds have peeping Tom, non-subpoena access to your digital communication is naive.

"Our" people fall for this patriotard, boogeyman nonsense every time--as if this legal judeo-theft called Obamacare that fucks up medicine even worse while bankrupting White individuals and companies before helping to deep six the country--isn't sufficiently bad. White niggers, please.
 
Old October 18th, 2013 #5
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Uh, what?

Your IP address is given to every website you visit, that's how the Internet works.

I don't see why people signing up for Obamacare wouldn't expect them to know their name, address, or SS#, considering it is a government program.

The rest seems like sensationalism and conjecture. The article doesn't give any source about the claim that your IP address is linked to your SS# through the Obamacare site.

The article seems like it was written by an Alex Jones type who has no understanding of what the Internet is, what IP addresses are, uses scary sounding implications, and doesn't know how to give sources for anything he claims.

The leaks about the NSA that have come out show that they wouldn't even need you to sign up on a "trojan horse" site to get all that information anyway. They basically have a wiretap on the main Internet routers and can watch everything going through the stream.

Why not just say that? Instead of inventing reasons to tie obamacare to something completely unrelated.
He's a sensationalist. I see you've noticed that, as well.
 
Old October 18th, 2013 #6
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Uh, what?

Your IP address is given to every website you visit, that's how the Internet works.

I don't see why people signing up for Obamacare wouldn't expect them to know their name, address, or SS#, considering it is a government program.

The rest seems like sensationalism and conjecture. The article doesn't give any source about the claim that your IP address is linked to your SS# through the Obamacare site.

The article seems like it was written by an Alex Jones type who has no understanding of what the Internet is, what IP addresses are, uses scary sounding implications, and doesn't know how to give sources for anything he claims.

The leaks about the NSA that have come out show that they wouldn't even need you to sign up on a "trojan horse" site to get all that information anyway. They basically have a wiretap on the main Internet routers and can watch everything going through the stream.

Why not just say that? Instead of inventing reasons to tie obamacare to something completely unrelated.
Ignorance? And wanting to be melodramatic? Americans are too much hollywood, most of them and little common sense and practicality.
 
Old October 19th, 2013 #7
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http://nypost.com/2013/10/19/pro-oba...avorite-shows/

ObamaCare ‘propaganda’ on our favorite shows?
By Kyle Smith
October 19, 2013 | 1:31pm

We’re lucky “Breaking Bad” ended this year instead of next.

Thanks to a new propaganda initiative to promote the health-care policies of the Obama administration, there’s now a board of entertainment-industry creative types (including “Bad” creator Vince Gilligan) whose stated mission is to push the great news about ObamaCare.

So here’s what “Bad” might have looked like in 2014:

INT. CAR. NIGHT.

Walter White, the most-wanted fugitive in America, sits on a lonely New England road trying to figure out how to hot-wire the stolen car he’s sitting in. Lights flash behind him. An officer steps up to his window.

OFFICER
Good evening, Sir, how are you?

WALTER
(Frantically trying to think up another lie)
Um, fine. Look, I . . .(coughs)

OFFICER
Lung cancer, am I right? Say, did you know that under the Affordable Care Act, your pre-existing health condition is no longer anything to worry about?

WALTER
Huh?

OFFICER
You thought I was a cop, didn’t you? I get that all the time. No, I’m a Department of Health and Human Services information officer. I just wanted to introduce you to some of the amazing features of the Affordable Care Act’s new website. Lemme see your iPad.

WALTER
(Handing it over) Okay . . .

OFFICER
You just log in here and . . . (tapping) There you go! Easy, right? Don’t worry about that “catastrophic fail” error message, that’s what we in DC call a “glitch.” Just keep re-entering your information every few minutes. For the next six months. Have a nice night!
(Gets in car, drives away.)

WALTER
(Turns to camera) I only have six months to live, so ObamaCare was too late for me. America, don’t make the health-care mistakes I made. Let ObamaCare be your crystal meth.
(Drives off into distance. Credits roll. Bruce Springsteen’s “We Take Care of Our Own” plays on soundtrack.)

Earlier this month, the California Endowment nonprofit granted $500,000 to a USC Annenberg Norman Lear Center program, “in the latest push to get Tinseltown to promote President Obama’s Affordable Care Act,” Deadline reported.

A flack for the disturbingly titled Hollywood Health & Society program said, with no apparent shame, that “Our experience has shown that the public gets just as much, if not more, information about current events and important issues from their favorite television shows and characters as they do from the news media . . . This grant will allow us to ensure that industry practitioners have up-to-date, relevant facts on health care reform to integrate into their storylines and projects.”

Among those who sit on Hollywood Health & Society’s board are the showrunner of the Disney Junior cartoon “Doc McStuffins” and “Under the Dome” chief Neal Baer.

Now we’re all living under the ObamaCare dome: Even when you flick on a thriller or a kiddie show, there will be no escaping the message that the Affordable Care Act is really, really affordable and super-especially caring.

Hollywood Health & Society has been active for years — it got a storyline about chlamydia inserted into a 2007 episode of “House” and on “ER” worked into the script mentions of the importance of a surgical checklist and BRCA (the gene mutation linked to breast cancer).

Decades ago, the AMA used to vet shows like “Marcus Welby, M.D.”

But no one is pro-breast cancer, whereas ObamaCare is controversial.

Once Hollywood is eagerly chewing up and regurgitating White House talking points like a mama bird feeding us, its innocent little chicks, where does it end?

Will Hans Moleman on “The Simpsons” tell us all about how ObamaCare got him free Lasik? Will Barney from “How I Met Your Mother” stroll in the room to say, “I got six babes knocked up last year and I’m still not a daddy! Thank you Mr. President!”

Here I’ll just pause to remind the entertainment industry that it has about half the approval rating of the NRA. (In January, at the peak of NRA attacks, the gun-rights group had a 44% favorability score as against 24% for the entertainment industry, an NBC News/WSJ poll found).

Nor is pushing politics a winning business model: In the last frenzy of Hollywood propaganda, during the mid-2000s peak of Bush Derangement Syndrome, we were treated to such dismal and didactic Iraq War dramas as “Lions for Lambs” (final gross: $15 million), “In the Valley of Elah” ($6.8 million) and “Grace Is Gone” ($51,000 — that’s right, thousand, as in “less than the cost of the Evian they drank on the set”).

At least those films weren’t planted by the White House, though. This time it’s different. An industry that loves to trumpet its fierce devotion to the First Amendment is putting itself at risk when it willingly becomes another tool of the DC power elite.

Once you’re taking dictation from Washington, it becomes harder to say no when the politicians start telling you what not to say.
 
Old October 22nd, 2013 #8
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http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/237...-saw-red-flags

Builders Of Obama's Health Website Saw Red Flags
Posted: Oct 22, 2013 7:25 AM EDT
Updated: Oct 22, 2013 7:29 AM EDT
By JACK GILLUM and JULIE PACE
Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - Crammed into conference rooms with pizza for dinner, some programmers building the Obama administration's showcase health insurance website were growing increasingly stressed. Some worked past 10 p.m., energy drinks in hand. Others rewrote computer code over and over to meet what they considered last-minute requests for changes from the government or other contractors.

As questions mount over the website's failure, insider interviews and a review of technical specifications by The Associated Press found a mind-numbingly complex system put together by harried programmers who pushed out a final product that congressional investigators said was tested by the government and not private developers with more expertise.

Project developers who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity - because they feared they would otherwise be fired - said they raised doubts among themselves whether the website could be ready in time. They complained openly to each other about what they considered tight and unrealistic deadlines. One was nearly brought to tears over the stress of finishing on time, one developer said. Website builders saw red flags for months.

A review of internal architectural diagrams obtained by the AP revealed the system's complexity. Insurance applicants have a host of personal information verified, including income and immigration status. The system connects to other federal computer networks, including ones at the Social Security Administration, IRS, Veterans Administration, Office of Personnel Management and the Peace Corps.

President Barack Obama on Monday acknowledged technical problems that he described as "kinks in the system." He also promised a "tech surge" by leading technology talent to repair the painfully slow and often unresponsive website that has frustrated Americans trying to enroll online for insurance plans at the center of Obama's health care law.

But in remarks at a Rose Garden event, Obama offered no explanation for the failure except to note that high traffic to the website caused some of the slowdowns. He said it had been visited nearly 20 million times - fewer monthly visits so far than many commercial websites, such as PayPal, AOL, Wikipedia or Pinterest.

"The problem has been that the website that's supposed to make it easy to apply for and purchase the insurance is not working the way it should for everybody," Obama said. "There's no sugarcoating it. The website has been too slow. People have been getting stuck during the application process. And I think it's fair to say that nobody is more frustrated by that than I am."

The online system was envisioned as a simple way for people without health insurance to comparison-shop among competing plans offered in their state, pick their preferred level of coverage and cost and sign up. For many, it's not worked out that way so far.

Just weeks before the launch of HealthCare.gov on Oct. 1, one programmer said, colleagues huddled in conference rooms trying to patch "bugs," or deficiencies in computer code. Unresolved problems led to visitors experiencing cryptic error messages or enduring long waits trying to sign up.

Congressional investigators have concluded that the government's Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, not private software developers, tested the exchange's computer systems during the final weeks. That task, known as integration testing, is usually handled by software companies because it ferrets out problems before the public sees the final product.

The government spent at least $394 million in contracts to build the federal health care exchange and the data hub. Those contracts included major awards to Virginia-based CGI Federal Inc., Maryland-based Quality Software Services Inc. and Booz Allen Hamilton Inc.

CGI Federal said in a statement Monday it was working with the government and other contractors "around the clock" to improve the system, which it called "complex, ambitious and unprecedented."

The schematics from late 2012 show how officials designated a "data services hub" - a traffic cop for managing information - in lieu of a design that would have allowed state exchanges to connect directly to government servers when verifying an applicant's information. On Sunday, the Health and Human Services Department said the data hub was working but not meeting public expectations: "We are committed to doing better."

Administration officials so far have refused to say how many people actually have managed to enroll in insurance during the three weeks since the new marketplaces became available. Without enrollment numbers, it's impossible to know whether the program is on track to reach projections from the Congressional Budget Office that 7 million people would gain coverage during the first year the exchanges were available.

Instead, officials have selectively cited figures that put the insurance exchanges in a positive light. They say more than 19 million people have logged on to the federal website and nearly 500,000 have filled out applications for insurance through both the federal and state-run sites.

The flood of computer problems since the website went online has been deeply embarrassing for the White House. The snags have called into question whether the administration is capable of implementing the complex policy and why senior administration officials - including the president - appear to have been unaware of the scope of the problems when the exchange sites opened.

Even as the president spoke at the Rose Garden, more problems were coming to light. The administration acknowledged that a planned upgrade to the website had been postponed indefinitely and that online Spanish-language signups would remain unavailable, despite a promise to Hispanic groups that the capability would start this week. And the government tweaked the website's home page so visitors can now view phone numbers to apply the old-fashioned way or window-shop for insurance rates without registering first.

The House Energy and Commerce Committee was expected to conduct an oversight hearing Thursday, probably without Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius testifying. She could testify on Capitol Hill on the subject as early as next week.

Uninsured Americans have until about mid-February to sign up for coverage if they are to meet the law's requirement that they be insured by the end of March. If they don't, they will face a penalty.

On Monday, the White House advised people frustrated by the online tangle that they can enroll by calling 1-800-318-2596 in a process that should take 25 minutes for an individual or 45 minutes for a family. Assistance is also available in communities from helpers who can be found at LocalHelp.HealthCare.gov.
 
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