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Old August 24th, 2013 #701
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A lot of people here do not seem to understand the far right gets demonized without mercy no matter how "reasonable" it tries to be, or that we can get a fair shake with the system

So far Breivik's attack has inspired at least 2 heavy duty terror plots in Europe that have been foiled, it would seem only a matter of time before he inspired more bloodletting of the system. Hell, a few non political shooters in America have also evidently been inspired by Breivik to a degree, so it is quite evident Breivik beating the high score has had a noticeable effect in shaking things up to say the least. It is only a matter of time before someone executes a patriotic action with inspiration from the Commander.
 
Old September 20th, 2013 #702
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John Derbyshire: Scandinavian Reserve on Immigration Is Breaking Down
By John Derbyshire on September 18, 2013 at 11:20pm

The performance of Norway’s conservative/populist/classical-liberal Progress Party in that country’s September 9th election caused much shrieking and swooning on the multicultural left.

One of the most piercing shrieks came from weirdly neckbearded sociologist Alf Gunvald Nilsen at the Guardian blog. [Norway’s disturbing lurch to the right, September 10, 2013].

Nilsen’s column [sic] led off with a picture of fellow Norwegian Anders Breivik, perpetrator of the appalling July 2011 murders in Oslo and nearby Utøya Island. The connection here was that Breivik had belonged to the Progress Party in 1999-2007, resigning his membership because he found the party’s line against multiculturalism insufficiently stern.

For an approximate equivalent, you can imagine VDARE.com running a story about Democrats doing well in the 2014 congressional midterm elections, the story prominently decorated with a picture of Washington Navy Yard killer Aaron Alexis, a liberal Democrat. (We promise not to.)

Mr. Nilsen’s hyperventilating is even stranger in that the Progress Party’s performance in this election was not very good, their representation in Norway’s 169-seat parliament dropping from 41 seats to 29.

What disturbed Mr. Nilsen was rather the overall performance of the rightist parties, which together attained a wafer-thin parliamentary majority of 2 seats over the left-green coalition, which has been ruling since 2009 with a majority of 7. Some “lurch”!

Indeed, analysts discount the drop in support for Progress by noting that the Conservative Party, which did exceptionally well—from 30 seats to 48—has adopted some of the Progress Party’s ideas, leading Progress supporters to some strategic vote-switching.

The rightist majority will only be a majority if Progress is fully included in government. Everyone assumes they will be. Progress helped prop up a center-right coalition in 2001-2005, but the coalition parties did not bring them in to decision-making. Now, with less of a fjord to be bridged between Conservative and Progress policy positions, there is no longer any reason for the mainstream Right to keep Progress at arm’s length.

Progress is pretty much what VDARE.com urges our own Republican Party to be: low-tax, small-government, classical-liberal, culturally conservative, and immigration-restrictionist. It is led by 44-year-old, agreeably-Scandinavian-looking Siv Jensen (who, although a spinster, is not a strumpet: the headline “Siv Jensen har stumpet røyken” on that 2011 link translates as “Siv Jensen has quit smoking”).

Even more encouraging to us, Progress went through a schism in the early 1990s over open-borders libertarianism. The Paulites eventually decamped and formed their own party, which soon withered on the vine.

Other good news from Norway: two years ago the Confederation of Norwegian Enterprise (NHO), a mainstream-conservative business lobby, came out against unskilled immigration, noting that (via Google Translate):

Immigrants threaten the welfare state and [cost] too much. They work for a short time before they end up on welfare and [are] too little productive. [NHO will have fewer immigrants, ABC Nyheter, May 10, 2011.]

There are some slight qualifications to be made there. The immigration being spoken of in the NHO report, which it is now quite respectable to oppose, is of Muslims and Africans—“asylum seekers,” in the Euro-jargon of immigration. Immigration of Swedes, Poles, and Russians into Norway’s small (5.1m) population is quite high and not objected to by anyone much, certainly not by business groups.

And traditional Scandinavian xenophilia remains intense among Norwegian elites. It was Norwegians, remember, who gave the Nobel Peace Prize to just-elected President Barack Obama for . . . Well, let’s be blunt: for being black. And much harm has already been done to Norway by mass Muslim immigration.

Still, a friend in Norway tells me that the configuration on the political right over there is “somewhat as if we had had intelligent Republican politicians in the U.S.A.” We can dream.

Across the border in Sweden, meanwhile, the government has announced that it will give permanent resident status to all Syrian refugees who apply for asylum.

Since the United Nations has logged two million Syrians as being in a refugee status, with 4.25 million more displaced within the country, while Sweden’s entire current population is only 9.5 million, this may qualify as the most insane public policy declaration in recent years, anywhere in the world—crazier even than George W. Bush’s 2002 call for the trashing of rational credit standards in home-mortgage lending.

More astonishing yet, the government responsible for this bizarre decision is a center-right alliance dominated by the classic-liberal, low-tax, business-friendly Moderate Party. Though by no means VDARE.com conservatives, the alliance is well to the right of the Social Democrats who dominated Sweden in the post-WW2 decades and famously excited the disapproval of Dwight Eisenhower (antepenultimate paragraph here).

The nearest Swedish equivalent to Norway’s Progress Party is the Sweden Democrats (by no means to be confused with the Social Democrats), who, since first entering the Swedish parliament in 2010, hold 20 of the 349 seats there.

The respectability gap between the Sweden Democrats and the governing center-right alliance is far wider than the Norwegian equivalent, though—more a gulf than a fjord. All the other parties in parliament have declared policies of non-cooperation with them;

Some of the difference springs from the personalities of the two nations. Until oil began to gush in the 1980s, Norway was a poor country of isolated, windswept settlements. Sweden was wealthier and more cosmopolitan—for a while in the modern era, even imperialist.

A rough comparison would be the Scots versus the English. Through poverty and hardship Norwegians became flintier, more cautious, and more sensible. Their great burst of prosperity this past 30 years has been well managed. The oil-rich Gulf Emirates have vending machines to dispense gold bars, and import Pakistanis and Filipinos to do all the work; oil-rich Norway has salted away their oil profits in a national fund for future generations.

The Sweden Democrats, like the British National Party, also had difficulty shaking off actual (as opposed to merely MSM-alleged) Neo-Nazi sympathizers brought along from its precursor parties. This was far less of an issue in Norway, which, unlike Sweden or Britain, was actually occupied by the Wehrmacht.

We should not, therefore, expect the Sweden Democrats to be a key component of their nation’s government soon, as Norway’s Progress Party has become. They are there in parliament, though, one more European political party speaking up for patriotic immigration reform.

Someone needs to do it. The ten days of rioting in immigrant areas of southern Sweden this May showed how far Sweden has gone down the path of national suicide. The city of Malmö is now a byword for Muslim violence and intolerance. The city’s small number of Jews are particular targets:

One who has had enough is Marcus Eilenberg, a 32-year-old Malmö-born lawyer, who is moving to Israel in April with his young family.

“Malmö has really changed in the past year,” he said. “I am optimistic by nature, but I have no faith in a future here for my children. There is definitely a threat . . .

Mr. Eilenberg said he and his wife considered moving to Stockholm where Jews feel safer than in Malmö. “But we decided not to because in five years time I think it will be just as bad there,” he said. [Jews leave Swedish city after sharp rise in anti-Semitic hate crimes, Daily Telegraph, February 21, 2010.]

I wonder if it is too late for Mr. Eilenberg to have a word with Barbara Lerner Spectre?

Ann Corcoran at Refugee Resettlement Watch has a valuable paper trail, going back several years, on the consequences of mass immigration into Sweden. I refer readers to that link for further hair-raising details.

(And while I think of it, some archives from the long-defunct blog by Norwegian “Fjordman” survive on the internet in defiance of Peter Brimelow’s glum prediction. Fjordman has also published a book, Defeating Eurabia.)

I shall have to leave the Danes, Finns, Icelanders, and Faroese for another time, but there is plainly a great deal to say about the future demographic prospects for Norway and Sweden. After years of conventional Scandinavian reserve, the peoples of those nations are at last beginning to say it.

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. His most recent book, published by VDARE.com com is FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle).His writings are archived at JohnDerbyshire.com. Readers who wish to donate (tax deductible) funds specifically earmarked for John Derbyshire's writings at VDARE.com can do so here.

http://www.vdare.com/articles/john-derbyshire-scandinavian-reserve-on-immigration-is-breaking-down

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Old September 20th, 2013 #703
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More proof that Sweden's government is a JOG:


"Across the border in Sweden, meanwhile, the government has announced that it will give permanent resident status to all Syrian refugees who apply for asylum."(end quote)

NOTE: And they're talking potentially 4.5 MILLION freakin Syrian refugees.

NOTE2: The "Swedish" kike has Israel to run to. Where can you run to, Whitey ??"
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Old September 22nd, 2013 #704
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Gender Equality Creates New School Boys, Norwegian Research Shows

Sep. 19, 2013 — Boys in primary school talk about their feelings and hold hands. And they are very, very concerned about their bodies and appearance.

According to new Norwegian research, decades of gender equality measures have helped to change children's upbringing and their understanding of gender.

"It's not that boys used to be naughty and now they are nice," says Stian Overå.

"But compared with previous classroom research, I've found a change in how boys relate to emotions. Being personal and talking about feelings was not problematic or feminine in their eyes. It was almost an ideal. And it was more important to be kind than to be strong."

Overå, a social anthropologist, recently defended his doctoral thesis on gender in primary schools. For an entire year he followed two groups of pupils aged 6-12 in a modern primary school in a suburb of Oslo. The area does not have a distinct working-class or middle-class profile. About 15 percent of the pupils had a native language other than Norwegian.

Gender equality measures work

Much of what Overå found was known from previous research. His study documents gender-stereotyped behaviour, such as girls who prefer to play in pairs and be best friends and boys who play in larger groups and have visible hierarchies with clear leaders.

But the boys observed by Overå behaved differently than the boys described in previous studies. So differently that it makes sense to talk about a change in the way boys behave

"Gender equality measures work," Overå states.

"Gender roles in the Nordic countries are changing. Several new Nordic studies have had similar findings. Gender used to be rooted in tradition. Today it is more fluid."

Scratch each other's backs

According to Overå, the boys aged 6-8 had the most relaxed attitude towards feelings and touching. These boys had "positive touching" as a daily school activity in which the pupils learned to touch each other. The objective was to create a sense of belonging to a group where everyone can touch and stroke each other regardless of whether they know each other and regardless of gender.

"The pupils liked it a lot. It was not strained in any way," says Overå.

"The youngest boys could scratch each other's backs and hold hands during recess."

When Overå presented the phenomenon of "positive touching" for a group of researchers at the University of California-Berkeley, they were flabbergasted.

"It's not coincidental that these measures are developed in Norway or the other Nordic countries," says the researcher.

"I think the changes I've observed are connected with Nordic ideals of gender equality and measures that are introduced as early as pre-school."

Considerate boys

The older boys, aged 9-12, did not have such a relaxed attitude towards bodily contact. They had to be on guard for being called "gay."

In spite of this, both the younger and older boys were considerate towards each other.

Other studies have found that boys' interactions are characterized by rough attitudes, aggressiveness and rule-breaking. In contrast, the groups of boys observed by Overå were friendly, inclusive and good-natured. And they talked about their feelings.

"Boys are not aggressive or emotionally incompetent. That is not my experience. In many situations the boys talked openly and thoughtfully about girls they had crushes on, difficulties at home, and anxiety and expectations about the future," says Overå.

"When one boy opened up, the others tried to support him and shared similar stories about fear or vulnerability."

Strong and kind

There was a lot of play fighting and other physical tests of strength as well, but this was mainly done at the beginning of the school year, before hierarchies were established.

"The boys organize themselves in a hierarchy with a clear pecking order and role differentiation with regard to leadership. Some would interpret this as a sign of aggression. I perceived it more as a game and a friendly form of contact," says Overå.

Physical strength, excelling at football and wearing fashionable clothes could win popularity points. But the most important factor for securing a high position in the boys' hierarchy was being a nice guy -- someone who is kind, funny, extroverted and relaxed with a "good personality."

The importance of hair wax

However, a boy's position in the hierarchy determines how much latitude each boy has, such as how physically intimate or fashionable he can be.

"The fear of being called 'gay' works like kryptonite on the boys' attempt to construct their masculinity," explains Overå.

Boys who cared too little about their appearance risked being called childish, boring or a nerd. The ones who cared too much risked being called feminine or gay. Two of the coolest boys wore eyeliner.

"Their masculinity and heterosexuality was not threatened by it," says Overå.

A less popular boy, however, should not try to do the same. The general rule was that boys do not wear make-up. Their hair, on the other hand, should be styled.

"Boys have fewer cards to play than girls when it comes to aesthetics, so their hair becomes a sacred domain," says Overå.

In a group interview, the boys talked about a day at school when a cool teacher had let them eat cake during home economics class. "I remember that! It was the day when I didn't use hair wax!" exclaimed one of the boys. The researcher was taken aback, and the boy explained: He got so much grief from the other boys that he understood he had better not go to school again without wax in his hair.

"It's not new in itself that boys are concerned about their bodies and appearance. What is new is the extent of their concern. They talk about it a lot. And there is a great deal of unseen work involved," explains Overå.

Metrosexual role models

A strong, well-defined, athletic body was the ideal for the older boys, who talked incessantly about each other's bodies in the locker room. One boy had read that football star Cristiano Ronaldo does 3,000 sit-ups every day, so he had started to do sit-ups every evening. He thought his ab-muscles were becoming more visible already and gladly lifted his shirt to demonstrate for the other boys.

"For young people today it's legitimate to try out new masculine expressions inspired by metrosexual idols like Ronaldo and David Beckham, who have their own lines of hair products and boxer shorts. This is different compared to 20 years ago when the role models were more traditionally masculine," says Overå.

Effortlessly successful

The boys need to be concerned about their bodies and appearance, but this concern must not show. In the same way, they should do well at school, without giving it prestige or putting work into it.

"It was an ideal to succeed in an effortless kind of way," says Overå.

"The boys did a great deal of unseen work, both with regard to their appearance and to their schoolwork. Many of them worked a lot at home, but claimed before a test, for example, that they had only studied for five minutes. They had to hide how much it meant to them to do well and look good, and how much effort they put into it."

The problem with boys

The focus of Overås' thesis is gender as such, but he has chosen to focus mainly on boys for two reasons: Descriptions of boys' lives and perspectives are underrepresented in the literature from school research, and today's society is especially worried about the situation for boys in school and society at large.

The debate about boys as losers in a gender-equal society and the feminized school arose in the 1990s. In the 2000s, stories about boys who did poorly in school dominated the debate.

But the differences in school have more to do with socioeconomic class, particularly when it comes to school performance, according to Overå. The fact that girls perform slightly better than boys in school has been known since measurements began in the 1950s. Concerns about boys arose only after girls started to maintain their advantage at higher educational levels.

Socioeconomic class more significant

"It's a mistake to let the overall discussion focus on gender when large-scale qualitative and quantitative studies show that socioeconomic class is far more significant than gender with regard to grades in school," says the researcher.

Overås' data confirm previous studies that find that girls handle the demands of school better than boys. A few more girls than boys were moved to higher levels in those subjects in which the school offered this.

"But when I controlled for class, it was clearly more significant whether a pupil came from the working class or middle class than if the pupil was a girl or boy," says Overå.

"It's problematic to talk about differences in the schools only regarding gender. Just as there are boys who do very well, there are girls who struggle. Using gender as an explanation for this is discriminatory for both sexes."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0919085712.htm
 
Old September 25th, 2013 #705
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[comment from altright article on golden dawn]

Sindri • a day ago



A similar martyrdom happened to a black youth named Benjamin Hermansen in Norway in 2001. He was killed by some neo-nazis and the consequence was the gradual elimination of every potent nationalist and race-conscious gang and every organized WN group in Norway. The antifascist, state sponsored "Blitz movement" had by 2001 committed violence against the public, the police and WN's since 1982 and defended their non-white comrades in their criminal "resistance against the system"; rape, mugging, killing can all be seen as a reaction to oppression, as we know...

By the 2000's over 50 Norwegians had been killed by foreigners and this number is likely to increase tenfold as our race becomes weaker.

I still remember being forced on the national commemoration day (like every child in public school) to sit through hours of ideological speeches by anti-whites shedding their crocodile tears while soft, sentimental music filled the room and extinguished all future resistance from the hearts of Norwegian youths.
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Sindri > Dimitrios Papageorgiou • 21 hours ago

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... and http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01... is some info in english. The NYT-article has an interesting main point: It is Because of growing racism that the social glue of the country is dissapearing and schools are getting worse, not multiculturalism!

I have my doubts about an automatic counter-reaction to harsh laws; Sweden is much worse than Norway in every way but still have no Breivik.

One should also not underestimate the effectiveness of draconian laws. How did Japan or Norway become such peaceful nations to begin with? In Japan maybe by crucifying thousands of christians and shutting the country off for 200 years or burying the whole familiy of those who stole (and eliminating thieving genes in the process), as seen in the movie "Ballad of Narayama".

In Norway the practice of "Holmgang" and "Blood-revenge" as resolvment of disputes and wrong-doings might have had the similar, culling effect...

Another point is that If people do not se laws as harsh but as just, there will not be rebellion. What if is only us alt-righters that sees the justice system as unjust and not the common man?
 
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Christ...I'm shocked Scandinavia could produce even one Breivik after reading that...
 
Old November 7th, 2013 #708
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Sweden Introduces New Movie Rating System Based on the Bechdel Test

OH MY GOD, SWEDEN. Staaaaaaahhp!!! Fresh on the heels of codifying their new gender-neutral pronoun, those plucky Swedes are getting even more proactive in their attempts to turn mommies into people. Unafraid to incorporate feminist thought (i.e. basic fucking equality) into official policy—can you imagine!?—some Swedish movie theaters are introducing a new rating system based on feminist theory's beloved Bechdel Test. Consumers will now be able to select what entertainment they consume based on how successfully it treats women like human beings.

In case you're not familiar with the Bechdel Test, it's a kind of yardstick of female humanity, originally designed to assess whether or not a film treats its female characters like people or props, or even bothers with women at all. It's very simple. When you watch a movie, ask yourself: Does this film contain two or more female characters...who have names...and have a conversation with one another...about something other than a man? You'll be surprised at how many of your favorite films fail.

Clearly, with this step, Sweden isn't going to magically eradicate gender bias in movies, but spreading awareness about shallow female characterization is the first step toward alleviating that problem. The best way to change destructive, oppressive behaviors isn't to MAKE BEING A MAN ILLEGAL, it's to incrementally change people's minds through, you know, letting them know about stuff. Nothing scary. Nothing complicated. It'll be okay, little alpha male.

Here's CBC:

To get an "A" rating, a movie must pass the so-called Bechdel test, which means it must have at least two named female characters who talk to each other about something other than a man.

"The entire Lord of the Rings trilogy, all Star Wars movies, The Social Network, Pulp Fiction and all but one of the Harry Potter movies fail this test," said Ellen Tejle, the director of Bio Rio, an art-house movie theatre in Stockholm's trendy Sodermalm district.

Bio Rio is one of four Swedish movie theatres that launched the new rating last month to draw attention to how few movies pass.

...The state-funded Swedish Film Institute supports the initiative, which is starting to catch on. Scandinavian cable TV channel Viasat Film says it will start using the ratings in its film reviews and has scheduled an "A" rated "Super Sunday" on Nov. 17, when it will show only films that pass the test, such as The Hunger Games, The Iron Lady and Savages.


But, of course, some people are VERY CONCERNED about their right to ignore women being violently ripped away by the evil progressive state.

"If they want different kind of movies they should produce some themselves and not just point fingers at other people," said Tanja Bergkvist, a physicist who writes a blog about Sweden's "gender madness."

..."There are far too many films that pass the Bechdel test that don't help at all in making society more equal or better, and lots of films that don't pass the test but are fantastic at those things," said Swedish film critic Hynek Pallas.


Sure, the Bechdel test is imperfect (Kathryn Bigelow's The Hurt Locker doesn't pass, for instance, but you could hardly argue that a female-helmed war movie doesn't empower at least one woman), but that doesn't make it useless as a starting line for sniffing out broad trends in gender bias. And that's what we're talking about here. Trends. Analysis. Examination. Critical thought. Information. I'm sure there are plenty of people who consider themselves scrupulously egalitarian who never even noticed that there are only like THREE WOMEN IN ALL OF MIDDLE EARTH.

Empowering people to select media that aligns with their ethics isn't oppressive—it's liberating. It's the free market, really, if you think about it. And if you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe famous actress and noted woman Mrs. Jada Pinkett Smith: "A feminist ratings system? That's so interesting! I say, hey, let's see if it works!"

You don't want to let Jada Pinkett Smith down, do you? Do you!?

http://jezebel.com/sweden-introduces...the-1459696241
 
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This is fine - as long as it's not backed by state power. Then it becomes censorship. As a private rating system, no problem. Said years ago we need such a thing for whites - a symbol that says "no jews were involved in the production of this media product." Would require a council setting rules and determining which productions qualify (not just movies, any medium, almost). LIVE WHITE (tm), could apply to non-media too, the idea of a gentile kosher system.
 
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This is a great idea, as long as it's voluntary. If it comes from the state, in any way, it's coercion and censorship. As a white, I would like to see a similar grading for anti-white bias in movies. Most movies, most mass media, comes out of a jewish production milieu, and jews hate whites. That's why there's a term for hating jews, but no term for hating whites, in the jew-controlled mass media. Just now
 
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Sweden Introduces New Gender-Neutral Pronoun, Makes Being a Man ILLEGAL

No, JK, JK. Everyone's manhood and womanhood and non-binaryhood is still intact, no matter what the conservative gender-apocalypse-mongers are sure to do with this story. You can still be whatever gender you want to be, and embody whatever stereotypes you want—from swaggering alpha douche to limp lily on the fainting couch.

But the ever-progressive nation of Sweden has introduced a new gender-neutral pronoun—hen (neither the masculine han nor the feminine hon)—into its official National Encyclopedia. It's a heartening step in broadening the concept of gender and giving institutional validation to those for whom gender is more complicated than the stiff old male/female dichotomy. (And this is just an aside, but it brings to mind the aggressive challenges to gender in the new album from Swedish band The Knife.)

Here's Slate:

Hen was first mentioned by Swedish linguists in the mid-1960s, and then in 1994 the late linguist Hans Karlgren suggested adding hen as a new personal pronoun, mostly for practical reasons. Karlgren was trying to avoid the awkward he/she that gums up writing, and invent a single word "that enables us to speak of a person without specifying their gender. He argued that it could improve the Swedish language and make it more nuanced.

...But not everyone is keen on this political meddling with the Swedish language. In a recent interview for Vice magazine, Jan Guillou, one of Sweden's most well-known authors, referred to proponents of hen as "feminist activists who want to destroy our language." Other critics believe it can be psychologically and socially damaging, especially for children. Elise Claeson, a columnist and a former equality expert at the Swedish Confederation of Professions, has said that young children can become confused by the suggestion that there is a third, "in-between" gender at a time when their brains and bodies are developing. Adults should not interrupt children's discovery of their gender and sexuality, argues Claeson. She told the Swedish daily, Dagens Nyheter, that "gender ideologues" have managed to change the curriculum to establish that schools should actively counter gender roles.

Oh, god forbid. It's also interesting to watch Sweden—now that it's committed to addressing gender inequality in a proactive way—grapple with the complex nuts and bolts of how gender affects society:

Ironically, in the effort to free Swedish children from so-called normative behavior, gender-neutral proponents are also subjecting them to a whole set of new rules and new norms as certain forms of play become taboo, language becomes regulated, and children's interactions and attitudes are closely observed by teachers. One Swedish school got rid of its toy cars because boys "gender-coded" them and ascribed the cars higher status than other toys. Another preschool removed "free playtime" from its schedule because, as a pedagogue at the school put it, when children play freely "stereotypical gender patterns are born and cemented. In free play there is hierarchy, exclusion, and the seed to bullying." And so every detail of children's interactions gets micromanaged by concerned adults, who end up problematizing minute aspects of children's lives, from how they form friendships to what games they play and what songs they sing.

Well, you're either interested in legitimate change or you're not, and change requires some risk. What's more harmful to kids—being awkwardly micromanaged by adults, or being warped by lifetimes of gender normativity? I sincerely hope we'll get to find out.

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"Hen" is a good choice. "Sheep" would be better.
 
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Thumbs up Anders Behring Breivik is a hero to be emulated!

The globalists continue to use our countries as staging grounds for 3rd world colonization and resettlement, while refusing to discuss the issue with the public, who see themselves being demographically overwhelmed in their own countries and right before their own eyes. How long will this continue? You cannot flood a country forever with massive waves of 3rd world "immigration" and not expect anything catastrophic to happen. There is no way the people in power are so stupid that they cannot see that mass importation of racially inferior peoples will lead to problems in the near future. How will these different peoples let go of their ethnic chauvinism and bigotry in order to cooperate among themselves to run a modern industrial society? The truth is, they cannot; if left to their own devices, the colonizers would turn on themselves and devour each other; they neither have the intelligence nor the foresight to lay aside their ethnic prejudices and racial interests in order to come together and carry on the western tradition. If it were up to the foreigners, all western civilization would be reduced to a pile of rubble.

This is the crucial difference between white immigration from 19th century Europe and modern 3rd world colonization; the white immigrants could set aside their ethnic chauvinism and cultural prejudices and come together as one big happy family; the racially inferior 3rd world colonizers will never be able to put aside their differences, nor should they ever be expected to be capable of performing such a noble endeavor; only the European peoples are capable of setting aside their differences and seeing themselves as one people.

As long as the white multicultural extremist can supervise his 3rd world proletariat, everything will run smoothly; but who will fill the vacuum in his absence? There will be nothing but jealousies and hatreds between colonizers, which will plunge the once prosperous nation into the usual 3rd world chaos, as racial foreigners fight among themselves for the white man's spoils.

Good white men clearly see this fate and realize that something must be done before 3rd world colonizers are able to seize the reins of government and run the nation of his forefathers into the ground. Democracy is of no use, because of the globalist stranglehold on political power; the white nationalist revolutionary has no choice except to take up arms against the immigration enthusiasts and multicultural extremists who would squander his nation's future for some mad, sick dream of multicultural utopia. The only way he can save his country is by following the path of Anders Behring Breivik, a great hero to all men who struggle under the tyranny of "neoliberal globalization."
 
Old January 2nd, 2014 #715
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That way, they could have thrown him in a mental institution for an indeterminate length of time, and completely discredited what he did and why he did it - two birds with one stone. But they didn't find a thing about the man himself to support such a thesis. That would have been the best-case scenario for the prosecution and the Norwegian state in his case, and even with that considered, they could not prove, or find anything, to show that he was legally insane. So saying he was a psycho is dumb.
Two stones short of a brick, as usual. The legal term "insane" means that you can you only be considered such, if you're not permanently/innately insane. Learn to know what the heck you're talking about before lecturing your betters, please.
 
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Where the hell did you get that from? Seriously, what are you talking about?

In Norway, being considered 'legally insane' means that they were psychotic, not in control of their actions, at the time that the crime was committed. It has nothing to do with what you said.

What a surprise - Breivik couldn't be found to be not in control of his actions at the time of the attack. He knew what he was doing. Not insane, in the legal or in any other definition. Not then, and not now. He knew exactly what he was doing, and why he was doing it.

You can find fault with what he did for any number of reasons, but putting it down to his being 'insane' is a load of bullshit.

What I said was right. And if they could have found him to be legally insane, they could have (at least in theory) kept him locked up for even longer than he has been. And it would have completely discredited his message. "Of course he'd say Norway is being inundated by foreigners, he's a nutcase!!!"

What you said was wrong.

Who are you better than, you arrogant child? No-one. So shut your mouth and don't make an even bigger fool of yourself than you do normally. Sorry, boy, but you're not at SF now - if you want to talk like a big-shot, at least try to know what you're talking about. And really? It took you 4 months to come up with this response? Which wasn't even correct?

Randomly mutated kveldulfr? Go roleplay somewhere else, you glad-handling pansy. What are you even doing here? Don't you have a Dungeons and Dragons game to get to?

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Where the hell did you get that from? Seriously, what are you talking about?

In Norway, being considered 'legally insane' means that they were psychotic, not in control of their actions, at the time that the crime was committed. It has nothing to do with what you said.
Wrong. In order to be considered legally insane, a person's psychological disorder/disease has to be treatable/curable, and the person is incapable of evaluating right from wrong. Psychopathy, as a personality disorder, is not curable nor do people with such disorder have a problem judging right from wrong, they just don't care. That is why psychopaths generally go to prison, as opposed to medicinal farmhouses.

I know I shouldn't be surprised that you weren't aware of the above. After all, you're a moron.
 
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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-28641845.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1118194.html

Yeah. Blah blah blah, Hans. Despite the best efforts of the prosecution to judge Breivik legally insane and stick him into an asylum, the medical experts could not do so. That's why he went to prison, and not to an asylum.

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In Norway, an insanity defence requires that a defendant was in a state of psychosis during the crime, meaning he lost contact with reality to the point that he's no longer in control.

"It's not very likely he was psychotic," Dr Rygnestad said.
But you just can't let it go, can you?

You made such a 'strong stand' on Breivik being insane, that you can't admit that the medical professionals in this case couldn't find him to be insane - the very reason Breivik is in prison and not in an asylum right now?

You can't admit that you don't know better than the medical professionals who reviewed the case and testified on the issue during the trial?

Wow. Just let it go. You were wrong - it wasn't the first time, and it won't be the last time.

Just admit it to yourself - 'I was wrong!' - even if you're too caught up in your arrogant and stubborn online persona to say it publically here.

You'll find you feel a lot better for it.

Go on, Doctor 'randomly mutated kjeldulfr' "I say he was insane, so he was insane!' Norling, just give it a shot.

Look. Seriously. Try peddling your wrong-headed, arrogant crap at Stormfront (where apparently you are/were a moderator, and where, I wouldn't be surprised to find out, you got your unaccountable delusion of intelligence and infallibility), and maybe you'll get a better reception.

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Yeah. Blah blah blah, Hans. Despite the best efforts of the [I
prosecution[/I] to judge Breivik legally insane and stick him into an asylum, the medical experts could not do so. That's why he went to prison, and not to an asylum.
Right, which was the correct rendering because... like I just told you, psychos do not go to asylums, they go to prison because their condition is not within the terms required for being judged legally insane (while still being clinically nutso) since their state is permanent and untreatable (and they can tell right from wrong).

And btw, genius, you do not get a psychosis from psychopathy. Even if the two has the premise-word "psych" in there, they are not the same thing. I mean come on?! Were you dropped off a wagon?
 
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The problem here is, you yourself never used the term 'psycho' or 'psychotic' before now in reference to Breivik; you simply used more general pejorative terms. So why have you seized upon 'psycho' now?

The answer is, it's a way you can have your cake (ie: your declaration that Breivik was mentally diseased) and eat it too (ie: even though he was found to not be psychotic or mentally ill, even though the prosecution tried hard for such a judgement to be made).

I'll re-iterate for you, you role-playing poof: he was found to be a criminal, not found to be mentally ill in any way, psychosis or otherwise.

And not 'clinically nutso', either. Interesting choice of words there; which version of the DSM or the Norwegian legal codes did you get it from? Or did you get it from the Dungeon Master's Guide, or the Stormfront Guide to Making Things Up with Style?

Stop being such a raging poofter about this. You're wrong. Give it up, Hans. As I said, your 7th level werewolf is late to a Dungeons and Dragons game somewhere; what are you doing here, pretending to be some kind of activist? It's pretty clear your participation here is just a game of another sort for you.

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