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You still haven't posted a modicum of evidence to support your Aryan jebus claims. I'm talking about something more than wishful thinking by people who're trying to rebrand something semitic as Aryan.
As far as the rest of this stuff, we already know the Germans tried to reform and rebrand christianity, because people in the party deemed it to be problematic and incompatible with National Socialism as it was. If the Reich was so friendly to Churches, then why did they have to demand that church organizations stay out of politics, and in some cases even had priests arrested and put into camps along with jews, queers and commies? I think what needs to be taken from this is that the 3rd Reich clearly put race and nation before religion, which is why they deemed that christianity should be what makes the compromise, and not their political policy and ideology. This is in stark contrast to belligerent christian faggots in the movement who get cranky when you criticize their religion for nationalist and racial reasons. Christians in the movement like to use the Germans as the example, but do they accept putting their religion aside for race and nation? Because this was absolutely 100% required. We don't need to rebrand christ insanity like the Germans tried to do. The Germans had a lot of really great ideas, but they weren't perfect. And I don't think we'll need to rebrand christ insanity, and all we might have to do is let it slowly die out and go the way of Roman Paganism. What's wrong with "My race and Nation are my religion". I think this is what the Germans were trying to accomplish as a long term goal.
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German population on that time had not been ready to reject Christianity. Only few of them knew that it is necessary for future of national-socialist society. They manipulated with Germans in the name of one goal who they had what include rejecting Christianity. NS did not have democrat brain who would speak what population want to hear,on the cons of however they use in short time period of new order this democratic tactic just for public while would results change opinion of the Germans and they will acccept new leader as God,it will not be central figure sons of Jehova than son of Odin,something like that.
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Christians are soft and weak. In my town they only exacerbate the problem of the junkies. They feed them, cloth them, house them in little ghettos. Even give them drug paraphernalia so they can "use responsibly". Oh yeah and the government gives them boatloads of funding to do it. If I could do one thing I'd burn down all their little homeless centers feeding these cretins, so the junkies can't save their welfare money for their next drug fix instead of buying some rice and beans.
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Crowe, despite having said that my participation would end, his interest and the interest of the other Comrades in the thread, and the number of views, keep me going.
I respect the information that was given to me, that you would be a leftist, but you are a Comrade too important in VNN. You like it a lot here, and I can see it from the dedication you put into your posts. I also like it here a lot, but I don't want to dwell on just written things; I know comrades who are putting their own lives at real risk of death by our Movement, in the real world, not on the Internet. But here is also a very important place, but I only write the basics, I don't spend much time here. Your main request for me is to prove that Jesus was Arian. Who am I to do this, but I created the thread for us to debate together. Hitler, Dr. Goebbels, Rosenberg, Goering and I believe in the existence of Jesus, and also of his Gallic-Aryan genealogy, in the Arian Nation of Galilee, which was under aggressive Jewish rule ... But look: this is just a belief. The second point is the fact of the Germany-Vatican alliance, and of National-Socialism with the Church, which I have already made clear in the images and videos of this thread. The foundation of this covenant is the same Jesus, even with some differences that existed between the parties. Even after World War II, Catholic clerics helped SS officers to escape the leftist forces that were atrociously chasing them. This post I also write for the important VNN user, Fico. Another important point: there has never been and should never be total obedience to any church or religion, because churches and religions are created by ordinary men. To complement my words, I leave the text below. And I want to say that I understand and respect immensely the position that you, Fico and Himmler have. ''Hitler talks about Christ, Church and Socialism “They even announce that they preach the teaching of Christ. But his life and actions are a constant blow to this teaching and its creators, and a denial of God! We rescued this teaching again! ” Resurrecting faith is the primary goal “Socialism is a political problem. And politics is not a matter of economics, he told me once in one of those conversations. Socialism is a matter of subsistence, an ethical stance towards life, and not only towards the life of an individual, but to the life of all who live together in a population community or vital national territory. Socialism is a worldview! But this worldview is not really a new one. I always admire when I read the New Testament gospels and also the revelations of the prophets and I move to that time in the Roman, post-Hellenistic world, as well as the East, what was done from these clear and unique teachings in their religious characteristics from men blessed by God, especially Jesus Christ. They instituted this new conception of the world that we now call socialism, raised it from baptism, taught and experienced it. But the communities that called themselves Christian churches did not understand them. Or if they did, then they denied and betrayed Christ! For they have turned the sacred idea of Christian socialism backwards! They murdered her just as the Jews crucified Jesus on the cross; they buried it as the corpse of Christ was buried. But they let Christ be resurrected to make them believe that his teachings were also resurrected! Here is the terrible crime against Christian Socialism! In the most disgusting hypocrisy, they flaunt the cross before them, the instrument of crime that they always repeat in their inner thoughts, as a new sacred symbol of Christian knowledge, and let humanity kneel before them. They even announce that they preach the teaching of Christ. But his life and actions are a constant blow to this teaching and its creators, and a denial of God! We rescued this teaching again! Through us these teachings celebrate his resurrection! Mary and Magdalene stood before the empty tomb. However, we want to raise the values of the living Christ! Herein lies the essence of our mission: we must bring back to our German people the recognition of that teaching! For where did those falsifications of the original thought of Christian love, the divine community and Socialism lead? We must recognize their fruits from their fruits! The repression of freedom of expression, the persecution of the true Christ, the infamous murder of the inquisition and the burning of witches, the armed crusades against the peoples of the free and true Christian faith, the destruction of their cities and villages, the confiscation of their flocks and its possessions, the destruction of its flourishing economy and the condemnation of its leaders in courts, which in its rickety hypocrisy can only be classified as blasphemy. This is the true face of the apparent churches that have placed themselves between God and men, because selfish impulses, personal ambition for profit, and based on the will to conquer the proper glorification of their senses, goes against the profound realization of Christ by the need to a socialist community of men and peoples. We need to feel the whole, the thought, the action, to rescue the people's faith from the presumptuous anti-Christian individualism, selfishness and the silly Pharisianism of personal arrogance and we must mainly educate youth in the spirit of those words of Christ, which we again we postulate: love your neighbor as yourself, consider your neighbor, think that not each one of you is alone a part of God's creation, but that you are brothers! With disgust and contempt the youth will separate themselves from that hypocrisy that pronounces the name of Christ, but has the Devil at heart; who give alms so they can delight in spending; who cram their own pockets with the work of others; who preach peace, but work for war. If you want to see why a war was fought, then just take a look at the measures that the victors apply to the losers, and what they call the “Peace Treaties” with abundant hypocrisy! This also recognizes their Christianity! Take the Great War [First World War, n.R.]: surrender of the German Merchant Navy, full orientation of the German economy for war repair, the enslavement of the German people through servitude for decades! We see: disconnection, extermination of pure economic competition was the reason for the war! On top of that, the hypocritical litany: the fault of the war lies exclusively with Germany and German militarism! Here any German can compare before God and admit: I feel free from any guilt. Take the 1866 war in reverse: Austria's exclusion from the German Reich Confederation - nothing more! Here we see that it is not about economic competition, or the enslavement of a people! On the contrary, it is only a question of withdrawing the Austrian imperial house from the Reich, which had its life and unity damaged by that imperial house. Or take the 1970s war [1870, nR]: return of Alsace-Lorraine that was stolen from the Reich in a moment of weakness, payment of 5 million francs, which France could bring to the table over the years - nothing more! It was not about economic reparations, the enslavement of the French people. It was only and only the annulment of an opponent who wanted to prevent the new reunification of the German Reich. That is why hypocrisy was not necessary in 1866 and 1870! Peace Treaties were in fact Peace Treaties, and the topic of “debt” was not part of the debate. These are those Christians who must be revealed, which our youth must recognize and, once and for all, become strong against all lies and against all perfidy, which bears the poisoned dagger and decorated with the emblem of the Christian church under the mantle. You see, Wagener: our mission is not economic. Naturally, the economy and its ethics must adjust to the conditions of this Socialism. I approve of all your plans. But they are not the primary goals. To fill the people with the resurrected faith and with their conception of the world, which was once a safe haven for people in extreme need, this is the primary objective! And since most of the elders are already intertwined with their economic interests and selfish spirit, we can predominantly rely on youth alone. She is the reason, for her people and her humanity, the kingdom of heaven is being conquered! ” [Otto Wagener, “Hitler at close range”, Arndt, 2nd edition, Kiel 1987, Page 257 et. seq.]'' Last edited by Lutador Branco; October 31st, 2020 at 02:31 PM. |
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All of my stated positions here on VNN about a number of issues, and anyone who's been here on these forums for awhile knows my positions are very right-wing. I just don't care for christ insanity. "Punching right" because you got your feelings hurt over something I said about christians, or christianity is an emotional response similar to how leftists react against people to the right of them. Before you posted this topic, "Jeboo is Aryan" which is a complete fallacy by the way, I don't think anyone really had a problem with what you were posting, some minor disagreements maybe, but certainly nothing of issue. And now you're posting full on Christian identity-tard nonsense on VNN that's been totally debunked numerous times over the years on these forums, yet you clowns keep coming back periodically. When Alex Linder was more active, he put people in tard corral for these kinds of topics. None of what you said proves "Aryan jebus". I suggest you change the topic to something like "Christianity and National Socialism.".
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I think everyone gets that the Germans tried to reform christ insanity. They weren't the first to try and reform it and they won't be the last. But the question I got is, how many more times are we going to continue to try and reform christ insanity, before people who're slow finally realize it's self destructive? Christ insanity always leads us right back down the same path, even with people trying to aggressively pull it in another direction, the entire religion is gravitationally bound to jewish servitude. Even if you pull it away for awhile, it's going to slowly, gradually work its way back. The German attempts to reform christ insanity clearly and obviously didn't take hold after world war jew, and things immediately and abruptly went back to as they were before. That's because the opposing force trying to pull it in another direction was no longer there. Christ insanity is extra load, extra baggage. It's dead weight. Right wing people don't believe in carrying dead weight. It's a liability and a drain on society, so the effort to constantly keep trying to maintain reforms on christ insanity is pointless. I'm proposing we simply let christ insanity die a slow death. I'm proposing we take advantage of any situation provided to us that will further that along. I don't think we should round up christians (unless they're active enemy agents), I'm proposing we seek policies to actively undermine it. It might take an entire generation, or possibly 2, with each generation being considerably less christian than the previous one. And we can finally be done with it. It'll be Semitic baggage lifted off White society. We'll thrive and flourish like we never have in our history with such a burden lifted off our shoulders. I'll even make a case for Lutador Branco being bound to jewish servitude. He's a christian, and he supports Zionists like Jair Bolsonaro, who's the biggest friend Israel has ever had in Brazil. Regardless of his personal views on jews, he supports the geopolitical infrastructure that benefits jews globally, under the guise of a "right wing" strongman who appealed to his "christian" base. Case and point for one of the ways jews continue to shepherd goys. If you're a christian, (((they))) are your masters whether you realize it or not, and most of them are not smart enough to realize it. The slowest ones might even think they're actually opposing jews somehow? You are being used in some way to bolster (((their))) agenda. A cog in a machine. Has anyone bothered to stop and ask the question of why pretty much all the (pseudo) Right Wing politicians in our countries are big buddies with jews and pissrael? For those who're slow on the take, I'll tell you why. Because they have to appeal to masses of christian retards gravitationally bound to jewish servitude. Because the christ-tard insists that their religion is more important than the interests of their nation and people. And this is why the Germans attacked "political christianity" while at the same time trying to reform it with "positive christianity".
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Crowe, of course normal people already understood, because I already explained well, that I must not prove that Jesus was Aryan, because the purpose of the thread is precisely to affirm "Jesus was Aryan", and through this statement seek a healthy debate in the forum.
But the brainwashing that Marxists like you receive makes you like workhorses in the service of the International Left ... and you receive a good payment for doing so, as I was informed. I saw how much you hate Hitler, National Socialism, Jesus, the Church ... you hate what Marxist brainwashing makes you hate. The Interrnational Left hires its vassals, like you, and infiltrates them in the media, in forums, in political parties, in Organizations, in State Institutions ... I saw that the fact that I was informed that you are really an infiltrated lefty, this attacked your nerves, because this exposed the truth about you ... but I think you shouldn't worry, not least because Marxists like you usually get a good payment for infiltrating National Socialist and White Supremacist forums. That is why you spend so much time here, because this is your job ... you are a leftist; you are not even anti-christian ... in fact you just want to get paid, like the ruthless Marxist you are. Stay calm, and do your job ... but you will be caught. Last edited by Lutador Branco; October 31st, 2020 at 11:15 PM. |
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I can't believe you can be so naive to call someone a communist, leftist, internationalist etc when you are the only one here defending a globalist religion that completely disregards nation and race.
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As far as I'm concerned, Christians are more my enemy than Jews are. "Always kill a traitor before an enemy" Just like police protect the Jews and get in the way. Christians protect the weak and get in the way. Anytime I've talked back to some fucking mutt trying to ask me for money or something, they always harp back to that shit "Wow god bless you." "Jesus would be proud of you" Or anytime I've been doing activism it's always some uppity Christian trying to get in the way and make it about him.
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If you have any evidence to support your claims, by all means share it. But if you can't even prove jeboo was Aryan, you're going to have a difficult time proving imaginary accusations. I've raised plenty of legitimate points that you've completely ignored, while you continue to engage in retarded accusations. You were never looking for any feedback. But you got it anyway, and it's clear I got under your likely brown skin, because you are from Brazil. Also as far as jeboo being Aryan? Allow me to reiterate: I dunno, maybe that passes for White in Brazil, in which case maybe jeboo really is Aryan to Brazilian retards? Does that make you mad? Go flip a burrito you greasy brown squat monster.
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Greasy brown donger from BR BR HUE HUE HUE is mad that this is not Aryan: Better duck for cover guys, so you don't catch a stray burrito. Now I understand what border patrol has to deal with on a regular basis.
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Newsletter 30: 3 September 1936 (German Faith Movement)
Christianity in Germany is presented as a cause of ‘considerable damage to the Führer, the people and the state’. The position of the German Faith Movement towards Christianity is described in these terms: ‘having become One Reich and One People, we wish to become united in our faith. We reject Christianity in its Judeo-Oriental formulae and dogmas, in its faith in the Bible, in its historical impact and in its political intentions.
We want, in the interest of our people, to live out our German Faith and to speak to those to whom Christianity no longer has anything to say. But we respect the faith of others so long as it is not directed, in any way, against the people or state.’ The German Faith Movement declares war against the confessional school and seeks instead ‘the school of the German Community’, that is, an education for the German youth outside and influence of Christianity. |
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Do you really think it all began with a sanctimonious Jewish wonder-worker, strolling about 1st century Palestine? Prepare to be enlightened.
Christianity was the ultimate product of religious syncretism in the ancient world. Its emergence owed nothing to a holy carpenter. There were many Jesuses but the fable was a cultural construct. The nativity yarn is a concatenation of nonsense. The genealogies of Jesus, both Matthew's version and Luke's, are pious fiction. Nazareth did not exist in the 1st century AD – the area was a burial ground of rock-cut tombs. With multiple authors behind the original gospel story it is no surprise that the figure of "Jesus" is a mess of contradictions. Yet the story is so thinly drawn that being a "good Christian" might mean almost anything. The 12 disciples are as fictitious as their master, invented to legitimize the claims of the early churches. The original Mary was not a virgin, that idea was borrowed from pagan goddesses. The pagan world knew all about virgins getting pregnant by randy gods: The Mythical "Virgin Mother". Scholars have known all this for more than 200 years but priestcraft is a highly profitable business and finances an industry of deceit to keep the show on the road. "Jesus better documented than any other ancient figure"? Don't believe a word of it. Unlike the mythical Jesus, a real historical figure like Julius Caesar has a mass of mutually supporting evidence. https://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
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727 views in few days.
The images, texts and videos I have published will continue to be available to everyone who joins this thread, so that they can meditate, whether they participate actively or not, and agree with me or not; welcome, everyone. I am grateful for all the views on this thread and for all the posts and comments. |
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This post has nothing to do with the thread, but I just want to clarify, so that everyone knows me better, that I am a pure white Brazilian, with a completely white European ancestry.
I reported this in a private message to mr. Alex Linder, with my private profile link on Facebook. Again, thanks to everyone for visiting this thread. |
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The Aryan Ancestry of Jesus
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If you would like to end the personal insults and accusations, I'm willing to put an end to it as well. The choice is yours. However, I will continue to be a fierce critic of christianity, for the same reasons that many Right-Wing individuals are, including many members here who are absolutely not leftists, either. In my opinion, the evidence for Jesus existing is extremely weak, and if you take that further and try to claim he was Aryan race, it becomes even weaker.
I know there are White people in Brazil, I've seen pictures, and unfortunately for Brazil, racially pure Whites there are a large minority. The demographics there suggest that Brazil is 48% White, however I think we both probably agree that many of those counted as White by your government in that statistic do not meet our standards for Whiteness, and the number is likely quite a bit lower % than that, given the extremely high number of people who identify as "mixed" being near 35-40%? If you claim to be White, I'll take your word for it. You see, men can have a disagreement, even a fierce one, with possibly some punches and insults thrown, and shake hands and let it go a few days later. I have personal friends since childhood that I only became friends with after getting into a fist fight with them, and they've been loyal friends ever since. That thumbs up was from me, by the way. Also, I admit that I've been in somewhat of a sour mood this past week, I have an abscess tooth, so I'm in a bit of pain (I absolutely refuse to take narcotics, doctor was going to write a prescription, and I refused it), and the earliest I could get a dentist appointment was the middle of November. Feeling a little better today, because the infection went down, and I can no longer feel my heart beating inside of my tooth.
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Peace is made, for sure, Comrade Crowe. I want a cure for your teeth, and the most perfect health. I was very nervous, and I suspected you of being on the Left, but you just seem to be a nationalist who doesn't participate in the Christianity belief, but you are a nationalist, a person from the Right. About Brazil, it was founded by Europeans, and our language, institutions, law, and the entire orientation of our development are completely European. Despite this, there was an African slave entry in the sixteenth century, and there were Amerindian tribes here, but the European population remained, even more with the reinforcement of the arrival of the great European immigrants of the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. Brazil is known for always having practiced non-institutionalized racism, racism practiced by the families themselves, which some say is racism in disguise, and it is this racism practiced by the Brazilian people themselves - which is hated by the Black Movement and the Left - that saved our pure European Brazilian population. You can see a sample of the pure Brazilian authentic in this thread of mine: Brazilian Women https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=557916 Returning to the thread about Jesus, I already read the excellent text of the link you shared with us and I identified myself especially with these excerpts: "It was the scene of some of the most memorable events of Jewish history. Galilee also was the home of our Lord during at least thirty years of his life. The first three Gospels are chiefly taken up with our Lord’s public ministry in this province. The entire province is encircled with a halo of holy associations connected with the life, works, and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. It is noteworthy that of his thirty-two beautiful parables, no less than nineteen were spoken in Galilee. And it is no less remarkable that of his entire thirty-three great miracles, twenty-five were wrought in this province. His first miracle was wrought at the wedding in Cana of Galilee, and his last, after his resurrection, on the shore of Galilee’s sea. In Galilee our Lord delivered the Sermon on the Mount, and the discourses on The Bread of Life, on ‘Purity, on Forgiveness,’ and on Humility. In Galilee he called his first disciples." "The term Galilean seems to have been used in a variety of ways in this period. To some, it just mean an outsider, or someone who’s not really an old Jew of the traditional sort. Precisely because the Galilee had traditionally been Jewish at the time of the Maccabean Revolt a hundred or 150 years before Jesus." "A lot of the problem was apparently due to religion. Says theologian Frederick Bruner ir t travelujah 20 l as2 o 1 a 080284507X : Galilee was not just geographically far from Jerusalem; it was considered spiritually and politically far, too. Galilee was the most pagan of the Jewish provinces, located as it was at the northernmost tier of Palestine. This distance from Zion was not only geographic; Galileans were considered by Judaeans to sit rather loosely to the law and to be less biblically pure than those in or near Jerusalem. Judean Pharisees, in particular, were less than impressed with Galilean observance of the fine points of Jewish religious observance. While praised for their passionate identification with Judaism and the Jewish people, their ignorance in law and disinterest in study was an almost never ending source of fuel for Judean snobbery. The Jerusalem Talmud records the despair of the great First Century sage, Yohanan ben Zakkai, at having been asked no more than two questions about Jewish law during his 18-year posting in the Galilee: “O Galilee, O Galilee, in the end you shall be filled with wrongdoers!” (Shabbat 16:7, 15d)." "Finally, the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia informs us: The population of Galilee was composed of strangely mingled elements-Aramaean, Iturean, Phoenician and Greek. In the circumstances, they could not be expected to prove such sticklers for high orthodoxy as the Judeans. Their mixed origin explains the differences in speech which distinguished them from their brethren in the South, who regarded Galilee and the Galileans with a certain proud contempt. Regardless of their origins, however, the points about Galileans on which virtually everyone could agree was their fierce attachment to what they regarded as Judaism, their uncompromising patriotism, and their unstinting courage. Perhaps no sector of the Jewish population fought the Romans with more valor, refusing to surrender even when Judeans were ready to come to terms. As the great contemporary Josephus recorded, Galileans were “always able to make a strong resistance on all occasions of war; for the Galileans are inured to war from their infancy …. nor has the country ever been destitute of men of courage.”" |
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