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Our goal isn't to be 'better behaved' -- only 'more effective' and 'warlike' when dealing with enemies and happier within our nation of friends and kin.
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In fact, give me a christian instead of a heathen any day of the week.
Heathenism is a state of mind. One who does not see his world. He has no mental light. He destroys almost unwittingly. He cannot feel any gods presence in his life. He is the 21st century man.
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oops, sorry. For a moment there I thought you said that a White Nationalist has integrity, moral character, discipline and a sense of honor. I must have misunderstood you.
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No, you are an Onanist. Anyway, it's way past your bed time.
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why is he an anti for pointing out what degrelle said? lets see what degrelle said about hitler. there's plenty of other stuff on the topic by degrelle too, who was a Roman Catholic leader of the Rexists in Belgium before the war.
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In Ernst Rudel's autobiography he makes similar points that Degrelle did, contradicting the notion that Naziism was anti-Christian. Rudel was the most highly decorated of any German combattant. "Kriegsoberst" here's a pretty decent book on the topic if anybody wants to get into it rather than just chucking these slogans around the internet |
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The big problem with European paganism is the same big problem with Protestantism. It is chaotic and unorganized. For Europe to realize its full potential it must be Imperial. With the conversion of Constantine the history of Europe changed irrevocably. WIth Roman Imperial sanction, and the later Hellenization of Christianity via the integration of Platonic and Aristotelian philosophy into the faith, Christianity became the religion of Europe.
Yes, it stamped out the pagan creeds violently, which is a tragic loss in many ways. But, they were already being eclipsed by another middle eastern universalistic religion, and that was Mithraism, a deriavtive of Zoroastrianism. Now lets consider for a moment Zoroastrianism. Not Jewish but literally called Aryan in the Zend Avesta if I am right. Indeed scholars say that the jews did not believe in any afterlife until they were in Babylonian captivity and when conquered by Persians, then learned the Zoroastrian religion with its heaven and hell and after life and dualistic contest between good and evil. Islam, Christianity, Zoroastrianism. These are the three monotheistic, universalistic, dualistic, heaven-hell-judgment-afterlife plus messiah figure religions. Judaism is a mere tribal strategy not a religion. To equate it to these religions is incorrect thinking that goes on here all the time. Religion and tribal cohesion have a relationship but it is not an either or thing. You can be an observant white Christian without being anti-white. You can be a pagan without being pro-white. Or so most of the pagans go to great lengths to say, isnt that right, including many of the Asatru groups. What about Germany? Did the Frankish King Charlemagne impose Christianity on the Saxons by force? Yes, to some extent, when he broke a truce and chopped the heads off the Saxon chiefs. But consider this-- most Saxons at that point werent practicing the cult of the Asa but were following the Arian (not Aryan, just named after Arius) heresy which is a heresy of Christianity similar to Islam. So, in Germany the Asa were dead already. Indeed we wouldnt even know a tenth as much about the Asa without Snorri Sturlovson the Catholic monk who took down the Eddas into Icelandic. Do I have his name correct? So Christianity did not vanquish the older pagan sects. They were mostly dead already. No, Catholicism did give Europe one thing in the time of the Franks, and that was a unifying creed that helped repulse Islam and unify the warring squabbling tribes of Europe under one Church and one language, Latin. That was a unity only destroyed by the Jew promoted and financed Reformation. Lets keep another thing in mind. Pagans were tolerant of Jews. Julian Apostate the Roman Emperor that tried to restore Hellenic paganism, got in bed with the kikes and tried to rebuild the Temple. What happened? Histories say that fireballs came down from the sky and toasted the Jew masons alive. Then Julian gave it up. Dont believe that? Well I wasnt there but the Temple wasnt rebuilt after all. Not even today. Funny thing I read in Debenoists Diary of a Pagan book. Says the most Greek thing about Christianity is the God-man idea of Christ. Says its kind of unlike the Hebrew religion. Funny thing huh? That old Debenoist says this-- but not untrue. Consider the other Greek man-godling-heroes who went into the underworld and emerged... Odysseus, Herakles, Orpheus..... Aeneas.... Bottom line, Christians were more well organized than pagans, which meant they had more real world material power, which is certainly one very important factor in why Christianity prevailed. Today, the problem is a hell of a lot more complicated than it was then and its ignoring reality to pretend that we can all start dancing naked in the woods drinking mead or whatever and our race will suddenly revive. I just dont see that happening either. Seems like we should probably focus on our secular, worldy problem of physical survival, with secular, worldly means. Wouldnt that be wise? |
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If you knew anything of your own White heritage, you'd know that christianity came to Europe as the religion of Rome. Nothing to do with the Jews. That's why the centre of christendom historically is Rome, not Jerusalem. Geddit, birdbrain? Not that christianity's Jewish roots was ever a problem with Rome. Even the pre-christian Roman gods had been taken from the Greeks and simply re-badged for their own benefit. And exactly the same with this former Jewish cult. But if you have a problem with that, I suggest you take it up with Constantine. One is no less white simply because one worships Jesus Christ and not Thor. I don't have a problem with pre-christian religions. How could I? That is also a vital part of my own heritage, which I'm pleased to say is still preserved - even if only the names for each day. And so is christianity. When you attack christianity, you are simply attacking your own history and heritage. You may detest christianity, but its propagation as the white man's religion is a historical fact. Anywhere there is a christian church, anywhere in the world, is as good as saying: the white man has been here. Not that I have a problem with the worship or veneration of pre-christian religion but it's not for me. It's far too New Agey for my taste. And that is why if I was on the battlefield, I'd sooner have some God fearing christian watching my back than some californian hippy-trippy tree-hugger with runes.
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Then why take the trouble of posting outside opposing views?
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The Catholic chaotic mess: The Syro-Malankara Catholic Church, is part of the Catholic "universal" mess, so is the Chaldean Catholic Church, and Syro-Malabar Church, don't forget the Maronite Church, how about the Japanese Orthodox Church, or the messy Sui iuris Coptic Catholic Church, Sui iuris Ethiopic Catholic Churches. Catholicism is the most messed up of the Religions Jews made for Whites, Muds, and all races. Catholicism is a complete and utter mess of sects, cults. It always has been. Unless of course one is of the Syro-Malabar Church. |
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Constantine was a degenerate and Rome was in disarray. The Dark Ages was the result. Europe had to wait until the Renaissance before progress slowly resumed. The only good in christianity are the ripped-off Hellenic elements, but they have their own merits entirely independent of christian bamboozlers and plagiarists.
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Before Antiochus Epiphanes gets his knock-out punch in, I think you should know that Alaric was an Arian Christian.
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Yes, I do 'detest' it because that Jewish filth was imposed upon my ancestors at the point of a sword and millions of Europeans were tortured and murdered during 1,000 years of arrested development imposed by the Catholic Church. Your abusive nature is rather sad. It shows you to be young (probably), immature (certainly), ill educated (without doubt) and a rather unpleasant person. Damned shame that there is an ocean between us. |
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Perhaps you might consider reading a history of Europe that was written by someone other than a Catholic? |
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I'm in Melbourne. So you're wrong again, dopey.
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