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#1 Life Outside Earth / Space Aliens Thread
[scanned this, looks interesting, not sure what to make of it]
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This is interesting news and more study needs to be done to conclusively prove these objects/organisms are actually extraterrestrial. Back in 1996 there was the big story about a 4.1 billion year-old meteorite called ALH84001 discovered in Antarctica in 1984 which came from Mars and supposedly contained fossilized remains of microscopic bacteria. So far, this has not been proven 100 percent these actually are alien life forms, but the evidence is pretty strong.
It wouldn't be surprising at all that life of some sort, including intelligent life exists elsewhere besides on Earth, considering the same elements that make up our own planet and humans exists everywhere else in the universe. It's possible simple microbial life could still be found on Mars, probably underground protected from solar radiation or on Jupiter's ice-covered moon Europa where scientists believe a vast ocean of liquid water exists under the ice. Just in the last 20 years hundreds of exo-planets orbiting other stars in our galaxy have been detected, some orbiting in what astronomers call the "Goldilocks Zone" the right distance away from the parent star for liquid water and possibly life to be present much like Earth's position in our Solar System. Frank Drake, the man who in 1960 led the first Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) using the Green Bank radio telescope in West Virginia, came up with the famous Drake Equation postulating millions of possible habitable planets and intelligent civilizations. So yes, life almost certainly has to exist outside Earth. |
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Not too sure about the volcano theory from millions of years ago though. Me thinks they would have died out by now. Or, at the vest least, have evolved into something new and more complex. Assuming, that is, the laws of physics allow life to evolve at such an high altitude.
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I don't think its a matter of if, but when. It seems like basic common sense that something else being out there somewhere is a given considering the size of the universe. The only reason as a society that we don't assume we're not alone is to cater to religious sensitivities who's whole ideologies would be crushed if something else was proven to be out there.
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It no doubt would greatly affect some of the more primitive cultures and religions on this planet and many Christ-cultists in the White world if alien contact was made and realize we aren't the center of the universe, but I think the more intelligent among us would get over it, much like people eventually accepted that the Earth is round, not flat and that it orbits around the Sun, not vice-versa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookings_Report Last edited by Ray Allan; October 11th, 2014 at 02:48 AM. |
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Although I think it would be great if extraterrestrials introduced technology that would enable us to leave this rapidly screwed-up planet and relocate to a new world elsewhere in the galaxy, chances are it won't happen anytime soon given the immense distances of interstellar and intergalactic space and we will be left alone. Even if aliens have discovered Earth recently either through our radio and TV transmissions or by exploration, or came in the distant past, it's possible they have some type of non-interference directive or philosophy to let us and similar worlds progress on their own. If any hostile alien species discovered us, you'd think they would have conquered or destroyed us by now. So we will probably have to wait and get out there on our own assuming we don't self-destruct before reaching that technological level.
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I am convinced that mankind will venture into deep space in the near future. But it won't be human astronauts doing the traveling, it will be robots. The same for aliens. Our first contact with aliens will likely be with alien robots.
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Stephen Hawking has reservations about contact with another species:
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I'd be concerned about the cultural and societal implications of such a contact. Would we just immediately abandon our culture and heritage and adopt theirs? Who is to say the said species wouldn't cooperate with ZOGs around the world, and give them even greater capabilities to push their agenda? Who is to say after originally having benevolent intentions, they decide after a time that we're better off being eliminated before we become a threat? Think about it, we're an incredibly warlike species. Someone else might find that odd or threatening. And what happens the first time they get screwed by a jew, and that behavior gets applied to all of us? We could all be doomed. What happens if they turn out to be the equivalent of "space jews"? Scheming, conniving, manipulative, greedy, unscrupulous, psychotic, deranged, without morals, etc, etc. Last edited by Crowe; May 10th, 2015 at 05:43 PM. |
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The same applies to any earth resource. The astronomical cost (in energy and time) of transporting anything light years would discourage any would-be Ferengi. They'd be stopped before they began by their favorite question, "Where's the profit?" The one thing they might want is the whole planet. If earth like planets are rare the most valuable thing in our solar system is real estate. They'd wipe us out and settle here with their own robot or gene engineered slaves. There's no way to defend against that so there's no point in worrying about it. |
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Alien Civilizations May Number in The Trillions, New Study Says
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Possible ET signals detected
Paper states 234 stars' signals probably from ETIs
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...?topic=41431.0 Chances are it's not aliens. Anomalous signals from space have been detected before and turned out to be false alarms. One occurrence was in the 1960s when satellites designed to detect Soviet nuclear explosions on Earth and near-Earth space picked up huge radiation signatures from distant stars thought to be evidence of an interstellar war in the far reaches of space which led to the discovery of pulsars. One exception was the so-called "Wow Signal" picked up on radio telescopes in 1977 which has so far remained unexplained. In SETI, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, as in any other scientific investigation, specific protocols exist for anything to be proven as fact. Empirical evidence has to be repeatable through various means and confirmed by different scientists, of which these signals have yet to be done. But it would be pretty amazing if we did tap into some galactic federation's communications network, though.
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I don't really know what they expect to find with radio telescopes? Seems to me like they're looking for a civilization that's achieved a level of tech to use radio waves as communication, but nothing more advanced to the point where they moved on from using radio waves as communications. For example, they could use using something like this to communicate.
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With our planet and solar system sitting out here in the boondocks of the Milky Way galaxy, 2/3 of the way to its edge, it may be a long, long time before we discover another intelligent civilization or they discover us. Those civilizations may be located amongst stars situated more toward the galactic center or in the star clusters containing more older stars than our Sun and hence a bigger chance of them having planets that developed intelligent, spacefaring beings and civilizations.
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70th anniversary of first modern UFO sighting
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