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I think the more pertinent view, in relation to our cause, is that spiral of silence, I think they call it, where a true majority view can be suppressed by and dominated by a minority view because the people holding the majority view falsely believe they are the minority, and are scared to voice it. I believe MacDonald mentions this spiral in Culture of Critique.
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I love how these thinksters get these ideas that we're going to get in some kind of prolonged, involved moral or philosophical debate with people who run cable tv. Not going to happen. We must focus all our representational energy on an extremely short, extremely clear, extremely memorable message. Anything less will be drowned in the daily deluge of bilgewater pouring out of the electric sewer in everybody's living room.
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We can't even win with a large-majority view, yet the judeo-left can win with a tiny-minority view. There's only one factor that can explain that, and it's not morality or appeals to it, it's control of television. With that control, you can make even something crazy and destructive like homosexuality or animal liberation (civil rights) the dominant view over time. Without that control, your normal view, held by 95% of the population gets nothing and likes it. Quote:
Blather about morality is one thing; controlling the mass media, which means tv, is another. If you have control of tv, what you say is moral becomes the dominant social view over time. WN will never be seen as the moral option until ordinary people are seeing and listening to WN speakers coming to them over the tv like Chris Berman, Dan Patrick, Peter Jennings, Brian Williams, David Letterman or any other commonly known shtickster. Quote:
Kurtagic's bogus theory is the left won because its tone was moral. No. It won because it had the media and the central government (the same thing) on its side. And they portrayed resistance as immoral. Kurtagic is deliberately or undeliberately portraying political success in these matters as a matter of our choice to adopt this tone or that when that is not even 1% of the battle compared to controlling the mass media that portray these struggles, that frame the debate and tell the viewer who the good guys and bad guys are. And this after Kurtagic has said up top that style matters more than truth. He seems to have forgotten this here. When we rally in Knoxville, the media are quick to brand us as outsiders stirring up trouble. Yet when jews go down to the South, they are portrayed as noble bringers of light to a benighted region of moral darkness. It's all in who controls the media, not in some vague tone in which a political party perfumes its motives. It's not about how we portray ourselves, it's about who controls tv. He who controls tv frames debate, and that framing includes identifying those opposed to any particular item on The Agenda(tm) as immoral. Kurtagic is simply feeding the ordinary conservative delusion that the machinery of System politics is fundamentally fair, and our success a mere matter of learning how to manipulate it properly. But our failure is not mechanical, it is Systemic. Our cause, if it is racial, will always be portrayed as immoral so long as jews control television. There's nothing we can do about that until we take that control away. Rather, as opposed to Kurtagic's view, the right thing to do is notice real-world white behavior, understand that the majority already is with us, and sees our cause as moral, but is afraid to say so overtly because of the penalities it can bring in employment and social status. Thus our cause seeks bold champions, since they are precisely those who will not be put off by such disincentives but will, knowing the glory and value of victory, press on. Despite being hailed as not merely immoral but overtly hate-driven in the controlled media. The morality of a political position, to repeat, is almost entirely a function of how it is portrayed on tv. There is no way to break through that tv ether to persuade people; that requires our taking over the medium itself, and indeed that must be one of our top goals. Quote:
Takeaway: the perceived morality of any political cause is a function of how it is portrayed on tv. With control of tv, or with the aid of those who do, a tiny cause virtually without public support (the normalization of homosexual behavior being the perfect example) can triumph, whereas without that control or aid, a 98% majority view can be stifled. "[T]here is nothing either good or bad, but tv makes it so," as Hamlet might say today. Morality is whatever the powers that be say it is, and the powers that be, in 2012, are those who speak to us through our cable tv. Last edited by Alex Linder; June 19th, 2012 at 01:08 PM. |
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If it is a mistake to think that we can simply vote ourselves out of the present system (if only we get the right Republican or Conservative candidate), it is also a mistake to think that, because of that, party politics is a complete waste of time.
That's true, but you have to be semi-intelligent to grasp that not everything is black or white, and that leaves out about 50% of White Nationalists. |
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How did the Nazis begin? There was a small party of a handful of men, and army man Adolf Hitler was sent to investigate it, as yet another radical right-wing groupuscule of potential interest to authorities. Hitler had professional military background - he knew what he needed to have to protect his budding group against infiltration and subversion.
The FBI, to take another example, began with a nucleus of ex-criminals, ex-gangsters - men who with professional skill in identifying criminal activity, subversion, disloyalty. WN need the same. Without these, starting a national party is pointless. It will simply be infiltrated and, when the time is right, laid low by the sleepers. |
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What will happen is Whites will develop increasing strength in online media, and, if they can create a party with enough people willing to put their lives on the line, force their views into the controlled media, thereby at least semi-validating them as at least acknowledged and existing, if evil. Eventually, if Whites gets strong enough, they will simply kick out the jews and take over existing television. It would be a useful exercise to imagine what programming a White power would run in the first 24 hours after taking over cable tv, using the existing jewish template. Ie, the channels remain the same, but the content is White. This is a useful thought-exercise. Last edited by Alex Linder; May 4th, 2012 at 09:12 AM. |
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Our racial problems are not local, that's just where they manifest, i.e., street crime. Our problems begin, almost all of them at the national level, and that is the level at which they must be fought. Our enemies centralized power, from the Civil War on. Today they dictate out of Washington who we hire, fire, rent to, and serve in our establishments. They dictate what is taught in our local schools. They have essentially canceled the 10th Amendment, which reserved all powers not specifically mentioned to the States. They just ignore it. Everything is a federal issue - education, health care, agriculture and on and on, almost literally everything. The Ron Paul campaign shows how rapidly a national base can be built for views that truly are outside the conventional framework. A White party at the local level barely makes sense except to grow support for a national party that can reverse the national laws and national policies that created the local problems in the first place. Quote:
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Although elections are only every so often, hush crimes occur all the time, and these are where a national party could put its emphasis: drawing attention to them as a way to dramatize the cost of continuing to go along with the status quo, and offering a genuine alternative. I have outlined ideas for a White ADL elsewhere, based on this idea. A white nationally activist group that could evolve into running candidates and offer local groups clear and strong ideological leadership... 2. Good points. To some extent these things are inevitable costs of doing business as a party grows to become a genuine force. As ranks swell, all of a sudden you have the money to buy the media and do the other seemingly wasteful one-offs. At the start, a lot can be done with a little. We have got to develop alternative local group structures that are far more organic, self-renewing and even addictive. This doesn’t mean these groups can’t back independent candidates at election time and thus contest keep the political ground contested. They can. But the partisan election certainly can’t be the primary focus. The ways to do this are as many as the imagination can come up with, but in general they will turn on providing help to local white people. That will make the recipients loyal to our local teams, and open to their ideological instruction. Who helps them now? ZOG gives them benefits in various forms. Salvation army offers them cheap household goods. The jesus cult offers them couseling and material help for their various physical problems and character failings. We are in competition with the christians and ZOG/schoolteachers on the local level, because we all know what kind of ideological garbage comes along with the free pantry food or kitchen soup. But there's no reason in the world WN can't do what the NS did with Winterhilfe and Hamas does with muslims who need help. I've heard Matt Parrott, for one, is doing good work on this local front. Look around: you would be surprised how many white people live in trailers. Without heat in the winter. Maybe their water heater needs replacement. Maybe they have five kids and actually work a job. All these people are open to help, even if it comes from a politically interested source. If we, simultaneously, build up from helping these folks (the deserving ones, not the shitbags who will fail in any system), and down from the national force spotlighting hush crimes and explaining in the most emotionally fraught terms possible that they are the result of allowing jews to dictate our laws, thereby exposing our sons and daughters to rape and murder and our people to genocide -- then we begin to have something that resounds at all levels. Then candidates will make sense. They will have a base and a ideological pole to support their campaign and hang their personal ornaments on. Last edited by Alex Linder; May 4th, 2012 at 10:15 AM. |
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Longer term who doesn't believe that a White-specific spiritual institution couldn't outcompete a one-size-fits all generic spirituality like catholicism? Isn't something mass-produced generally less desirable than something custom tailored? Why wouldn't that apply to matters spiritual as well as material? Last edited by Alex Linder; May 4th, 2012 at 10:16 AM. |
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As always, concern with truth or morality or any other abstraction will always yield to real-world advocacy of and pursuit of direct racial advantage. You don't bring a philosophy professor to a gunfight, you bring a gun. Truth and morality are for kiddies to debate; what ought to concern us is what's good for Whites. |
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1) our actions don't back our words; 2) we never deliver any blows to the enemy. This is why what Breivik did is such a powerful good for our cause: it shows we can and will fight back, at least some of us. Only when the average guy sees our cause can fight and has an actual chance of winning will the undeniable logic of our system kick in. We simply have to believe in our own bullshit and prove that by the way we live our lives and fight our enemies. At present we aren't real impressive on that front. We don't have our act together. Last edited by Alex Linder; May 4th, 2012 at 10:18 AM. |
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The closer you get to doing something about the powers that be, the more heatedly and repeatedly they will shriek Hitler at you. That's actually, as Johnson points out, code for "you're doing it right." Hitler beat the jews in a time and space. That's why conservatives are horrified by him. Gentleman lose. Politely. But they lose. Every time. Winning is immoral. Winning is caddish. Only louts and churls win. Gentlemen always lose. But they are very respectful in their losses. No hair is disturbed. Their hats stay in place. Their manners are perfect. Their reputations are intact. Those are the things that matter, because this world is but snare and delusion; the real world is the world to come - god's special place. Just repeat to yourselves this mantra: only losers win. Only the gauche and the gutternsnipes stoop to doing what's necessary to obtain victory. Never gentlemen. They lose. Always. Amen. Last edited by Alex Linder; June 19th, 2012 at 01:23 PM. |
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How likely does that seem? It's not likely at all. It's the opposite of likely. Yet we are told over and over by folks like Jared Taylor that we must blame ourselves. I'm not sure how much greater a clue someone like Taylor could give than - telling us to blame ourselves - forbidding us, wherever he has the power to, from criticzing the powers that be (jews), or holding their government responsible for preventing us from organizing Jared Taylor is our enemy. And he deliberately fosters a mindset that prevents our people from understanding what is actually happening. And yet even bright brains like Johnson that fully understand what is going on refuse to hold him responsible for his deliberate lying in this regard. We are not doing it to ourselves. The enemy is doing it to us. |
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Look. Paul has exactly the sector we need to reach - young white men - stirred up, excited, angry, impassioned. Who among WN can do that? Has done that? He's doing it for a different cause? Really? Paul supports free association. It is the ending of free association that is the main legal prop for the anti-White, genocidal jewish policy of forced societal (sic) disintegration. And again: Paul is against it. Paul is against the main legal perversion preventing our folk from defending themselves. That has to count for something. In Paul's world, you can hire, fire, employ, discriminate against whoever you like, for whatever reason. The white world was able to thrive, for a time, when that policy was in place. He would restore it. So he is on our side, implicitly if you like. But all the same on our side in the most real practical sense, on a number of topics: free association, sound money, end to foreign warmongering.. It's true Paul doesn't emphasize his position on free association. He has limited time and must focus. He has chosen to focus on our queered money supply and our warmongering. Two areas where jews are highly conspicuous criminal nogoodniks. He is doing much of our political education task for us - on a national stage. Best of all, he takes the heat. We now have people actively questioning the fed and its role in messing up our economy. There is not a single thing not good about this. There is nothing not to like about Paul, and what is cited as bad about him is actually good - his boilerplate, every-other-lying-pol bending the knee before MLK and the other judeo-lefist pantheon apes. This shows on the deepest stuff, he is just another politician: weak precisely where it is most important to be strong. So even where Paul is wrong he is right - for our cause. He does much of our education work for us, explicitly, on the fed and foreign policy, and where he goes weak, he does the rest of our work implicitly - showing that none of that good old-fashioned liberty is possible save you begin from a white racial basis. Ron Paul helps us in every way. Whether he means to or not. Since he doesn't call himself us, and explicitly rejects our support, we are perfectly positioned to supply what he lacks, and what will ultimately undermine him. We have nothing left to do but point out where he's pulling punches and thank him for the prep work, we'll take it from here. Last edited by Alex Linder; May 4th, 2012 at 11:25 AM. |
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We should remember that race is a very small part of life. The other part, once race is cleared up, is how Whites live among themselves. The libertarians have a lot of good answers in that regard. There's no reason we can't combine a racial state with white individualist freedom as the nougat inside the white-chocolate shell. Then we have a system that serves both the White and the Man. And we are both, let's not forget that. Libertarianism is basically the interior decorator the WN hires after he has built the mansion on the uncrackable foundation with the leakproof roof. Johnson is correct about nearly everything, but wrong about Jared Taylor and Ron Paul/libertarianism. It's the ones calling themselves by the same name we do but advocating bad policies we need to worry about, not the ones who aren't us and don't call themselves by our name yet help us regardless of their intentions. |
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