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Dway? Are you a nigger? That sounds like a niggerish name to me.
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Firstly, if you want to learn about the ideology of National Socialism, the best thing is to avoid any mainstream media outlet, and wait for it...., so-called neo-Nazi websites. Which are infested by Hollywood Nazis of the worst kind. You will learn absolute zero about National Socialist thinking from any of the above. Pretty much the same for VNN with a few exceptions. The general consensus on VNN is that National Socialism was a political ideology, rather than a 'religion.' A few people have argued the case that National Socialism was/is fundamentally a spiritual movement. But they are sadly a minority on here. I generally avoid debating this subject because I am sick of trying to reason with dogmatists. But YES, National Socialism is a 'living religion.' The Swastika is a Holy symbol, and not a symbol of hate. Hitler was not a Christian, neither was he an atheist. He was in fact a deist. This can be proven by carefully scrutinizing Hitler's speeches and writings, as well as official German National Socialist ideological propaganda. A good source of (English translation) official German National Socialist propaganda literature is available online at: Calvin The Calvin archive contains the good, the bad, and the ugly, of official German National Socialist propaganda. The majority of articles are political. But some contain 'spiritual' and 'religious' comments from a National Socialist perspective. These comments are in fierce opposition to Christianity, and are spiritually pantheistic. Note the initials of the Artist: AH Note the two opposing Swastikas. National Socialism considers the universe to be a unity. What exists cannot exist without its opposite. The Swastika represents Order and creativity. As opposed to Chaos and destruction. This is a fundamental law of Nature without exception. Chapter 7 of the 2nd volume of Mein Kampf: "As National Socialists we see our program in our flag. In the red, we see the social idea of the movement, in the white, the nationalistic idea, in the Swastika, the mission of the struggle for the victory of Aryan man, and at the same time, also the victory of the idea of creative work, which in itself is, and will always be, anti-Semitic." It is widely believed that Martin Bormann was an atheist because of his loathing of Christianity. So going by that logic, any Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Jew is surely an atheist? Such reasoning is insane and can be disproved with the following Nuremberg war indictment document of Martin Bormann. As you can read for yourself, Martin Bormann states official National Socialist thinking on spiritual matters, and identifies pantheism as the spiritual foundation of NS thinking. A very powerful document that conclusively proves that he was not an atheist. Quote:
SS Totenkopf ring Starting from the top: Death's head The Death's head does not signify 'evil' or harm to others. Rather its meaning, to the wearer of the ring, is "Death Before Dishonour." Meaning if an SS soldier dishonoured his comrades he would deserve death for his betrayal. The triangle shape with a Sigrune (victory): The triangle (I believe)represents the endless cycle of birth, death and rebirth in Nature. The Sigrune is there to protect the wearer after death. The circle represents the circle of divinity in Nature, of all living things, animals and plants. The Swastika represents Order, and the Hagel rune (destruction) must symbolize its opposite, Chaos. I am not sure what the other shapes mean. The Oath to Adolf Hitler Speech by Rudolf Hess on 25 February 1934 Quote:
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No, that is not correct. There are several biological and persistent racial/ethnic denominators for Jewry. You can't possibly not accept that.
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I'd also note that assuming the interchangeability of religions and religious faith as Dway does is actually an extremely bigoted position as it reduces all forms to the human condition, but then doesn't explain why it doesn't reduce the human condition down to biology (ergo sub-species/genetic clusters i.e. race/sub-race).
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No. It's a nickname. My first name is David (my dumb dead mother loved filthy biblical names) and my middle name is Wayne (named after the stupid German doctor who saved her life when I was like 3 or 4 years old.
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So your dad was a doorknocker, just like Mitt.
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If you will, please expand on the rejection of neo-Naziism. Quote:
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Also, thank you for your response. It was enlightening. I did read through some of the information you provided. Admittedly, in my own ignorance, I was wrong. While I may not necessarily agree with the information provided, I can at least appreciate the research and time put into providing resources for education. I can at least conclude that NS is not to be automatically or automagically conflated and associated with hate. If anything, I can admit that NS seems to be, at least purely, a defense mechanism and ideology meant for different forms of preservation and not just exclusively based on race. TO EVERYONE: (sigh...and trying to be humble) I apologize for coming onto your board with an obvious agenda and axe to grind. Now, I really feel like a dick. I'm not trying to kiss ass, motherfuckers. I'm trying to be courteous and remember that I'm a guest in your domain. |
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No. My dad never served a mission thankfully. But he did a great job with his sales pitch to get my other siblings to serve. He was disappointed when it didn't work on me. Little did we know, I would be excommunicated from the LDS church at 18 years old (culturally, that's really young).
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And you should have more respect for your mother, and be grateful that German doctor saved her. You sound like an ungrateful, disrespectful little prick to me. My mom is Catholic, and as much as I dislike Christianity, I still love my mom. |
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If you'll stop making up stories about how your ancestors liberated fictional "death camps" (filled to the brim with God's Chosen!) then you can begin the process of distinguishing truth from lies.
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I have learned about NS through my own research, intuition and reasoning ability, with a little help on the way from forums such as this. I am sure you know where I am coming from, because you also seem sincere, and truthful. In my personal estimation, the majority of so-called Neo-Nazi groups are nothing more than a caricature and bastardization of the movement led by Adolf Hitler. These groups tend to focus on 'race hate' instead of 'love for their own folk.' Ideologically, they tend to be an Hot-potch of Christian fundamentalism, race-hate, with a penchant for Hollywood Nazi imagery. They tend to be all-consumed by hate, hate and more hate. They are, on the whole, really horrible people, and nothing like a true representation of Hitler's German National Socialist movement. Many years ago I was a supporter of Gregor Strasser and very much anti-Adolf Hitler. Who, I saw, (wrongly) as a capitalist lackey and gatekeeper. I now know different. Although you may disagree.... I like to think that I am intuitive. I often pick up on just a few pieces of information, then extrapolate that information and see a different picture emerging as to what I had been previously told was the truth. It is first and foermost my intuition, thirst for knowledge, and more importantly, the truth, that has led me to my present viewpoint: That National Socialism is, fundamentally, and unequivocally, a spiritual worldview. Quote:
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National Socialism understands 'God' not to be an anthropomorphic, all-powerful, vengeful, deity. As claimed by monotheistic religions such as Christianity. Rather National Socialism understands that the universe is in fact 'two universes', (multiple universes could exist even!). One physical universe (causal) joined by a second universe (acausal). Both universes co-exist together in a symbiotic relationship. One matter: the other spirit. One visible: the other invisible. 'God' resides in the acausal universe, while man/animals/plants exist in the physical universe. All living creatures, no matter how small, or inconsequential, contain a spark of the divine. And that 'individual consciousness' is not in the physical universe but is in fact acausal. That what we call 'Nature', 'evolution', and 'the survival of the fittest', is 'God' living, evolving and becoming 'conscious' in the acausal universe. Quote:
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So Dway, do you really buy this "Diversity is our strength" anti-racist bullshit? Just curious.
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I kindly ask that you not assume anything about my life. I admitted my presumptions concerning NS. I'm trying a civil approach rather than an agenda. I don't respect my mother because she was a heroine addict while pregnant with my twin brother and I. Because of her addiction, my brother died during labor. She was higher than a kite. She and my father never married. The doctor who saved her life saved her from one overdose. I was five years old when my mother finally died from overdose. Admittedly, I have a great deal of hostility toward her because I do recall being left at home (if you want to call her dealer boyfriends apartment a home) by myself. She wasn't a mother by any means. I am grateful to my father and step mother for providing a real a home with stability. It was rough at first because I didn't know my father, my siblings from his first marriage, or my siblings from his second marriage to my stepmother. To clarify, I'm not looking for sympathy but I wanted to explain why i feel the way I do about my biological mother. |
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If this is a sincere question, the best and most honest answer I can give is that I don't know.
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