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Old June 26th, 2010 #21
Karl Radl
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Originally Posted by Igor Alexander View Post
I'll repeat again that if you are an American taxpayer, being "neutral" in this conflict is not an option for you; your country has been supporting the ethnic cleansing of Palestine since at least 1948, and supports it now more than ever.
You misunderstand my words I think because you are trying to understand what I meant as a simple dichotomy, which it wasn't. What I meant; which should be clear having re-read my two posts in this thread, was that yes you cannot be 'neutral' in such a conflict, but you also cannot support either side because both sides are your racial enemy and both sides will (and do) abuse your support for their own advantage. One (the jew) has built a significant apparatus for that abuse and the other (the Arab) is currently building its apparatus in a similar vein (ergo 'Islamophobia' and 'anti-Semitism' are both increasingly becoming equally virulent 'mainstream' accusations in the media and academe [although 'Islamophobia' isn't on par with 'anti-Semitism' yet: it is getting there]).

I don't give a flying fuck if 10 million jews and Arabs die as they aren't worth a single Aryan's death due to their little conflict. I care for my folk not some god damned bunch of hook-nosed sub-humans.

In essence you simply support American and European interests; which isn't 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' btw, rather than cheerleading one side or the other, because that just makes you a shil/toady for one side or another.

It is like someone asserting that we must cheer on or condemn the massacre of Tutsi negroes by Hutu negroes, because either the Tutsies or Hutus have long been exploiting/killing Americans and/or Europeans. Its intellectually absurd that a European racialist should take a side when both sides want to abuse his people for their own purposes. That's race and evolution for you.

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Is there a gray area between worshipping Muslims and wanting to exterminate them?
Yes: why?

What gives you reason to think that I thought otherwise?

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The neocons don't think so, and you seem to be stuck in their way of thinking.
Accusing me of being 'neo-con' or 'crypto-neo-con' by implication are we?

Yes: I'd love to see every Semite; Arab and jew, wiped off the face of this earth, but I live in practical reality in so far as that thought is merely a beatific vision and some other less complete solution is the way to go.

Or does that horrify your sensibilities about ethnic cleansing? It happens and it is merely evolution nothing more.

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But they don't mind supporting jews?
Actually they do but they don't even know they are supporting jews if you actually talk to them. Even the Fundies have very little idea how much jews exploit them, but because they are told by Fox News et al how Arabs exploit them then they don't like Arabs. I find that they are very receptive if you explain it to them patiently and give them some books to read. People like to feel they have worked it out for themselves and that is only natural.

You either care for the folk or you don't: that much is pretty black and white in my experience.

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My position is based purely on what's good for whites.
Really so then why do you advocate support for racial enemies? Or is it a case of the inconsistent 'good Semite'/'bad Semite' logic?

Do you support niggers because quite a few Somalian niggers are causing mayhem in Israel at the moment? Do tell.

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Supporting Israel is not good for whites.
I never implied otherwise. However you seem to think that if you don't support the Palestinians then you are supporting Israel, which; to be blunt, is a load of reactionary bollocks.

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Turning the Muslim world against you in order to support jewish nationalism is not good for whites.
How is what I said 'supporting jewish nationalism' (as that is the implication of your statement)? Pray do tell.

I don't care what the Islamic world thinks of my people or me: that is irrelevant. They are Semites just like the jews and the Islamic world leaders are worldy men not religious fanatics: they will deal with reality not declare a jihad the minute something happens they don't like. Who gives a flying fuck what a diseased Imam preaching on a street corner thinks of the West or my people?

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I think Finkelstein's role is to divert people away from holocaust revisionism; he makes it seem as though he's opposed to the holocaust industry, while omitting the most important part -- that there is not a bit of solid evidence that the "holocaust" ever happened, and in fact, that there is much evidence to suggest it didn't.
Although I don't subscribe to Finkelstein having a 'role' (as that implies a central organised conspiracy of jews) I do agree that he is far more dangerous than the Alan Dershowitzes of this world precisely because he is a much more intellectual and able jew than Dershy is (who just comes off as a raving lunatic with remarkably little ability). That said the main focus of his non-academic writing has been to create a kind of 'cult' around himself and in essence form his own personal brand of kosher anti-Zionism, which has to some extent been successful as I've seen numerous people refer to Finkelstein as a 'good jew'/'righteous jew' etc.
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