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Old May 4th, 2008 #41
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Pat is much to smart to be sucked into the down and out right wing crowd. He turns the enemy against itself, for instance he'll say things like America needs to protect its border and culture like isreal does. that way the only way the media can attack him is to attack isreal itself.

Pat doesn't want the down and out nazi clown to say his name with pride, he wants real white people to read between the lines and learn how to adapt to this PC era we live in. Radicalness at an extreme level only attracts losers and feds. The white people that carry this country are the ones Good Old Pat is trying reach, not the trailer trash.
On the first point, I'd say instead that Pat is very good at getting face-time, selling books, and posturing himself as the Loyal Opposition. To his credit, I've been reading much the same from him for about 30 years, since his time with Nixon. To his discredit, I give exactly the same answer. He's no youngster. He's had plenty of time to man up and name the jew. He has not. He will not.

I believe adaptation is for viruses, not White men. We need to set the terms of the debate, not allow Yehudi to do it for us. Jews, whether in media or society in general, prosper (or even reside in our lands at all) at the pleasure of the majority, as they've learned at many times in Europe, most notably in the late 1930s. Had the entire Western world not been siren-sung by Balfour's handlers into attacking Germany over a border issue with Poland, the NS might have finally answered Europe's jewish question by exporting them, wholesale (no pun intended) to their "homeland" in Palestine. Oh, and prohibiting their return. So I disagree; many "nazis" (sorry, NS) weren't clowns after all.
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Old May 4th, 2008 #42
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iceslayer you are obviously putting the wrong spin on his words, why I do not know.
He is to crafty to get caught in the name the jew game, good for him.
Can you name any public person of any consequence since Hitler who "named the jew" and went on to have a good public life ?
People with an interest in these affairs know how to read between the lines, apparently you do not and need it spelled out in big letters ... That is not going to work at this point in time.
Then my question is, when will it work and what will we do to get to that point? Do you in some way believe that the jews behind the scenes (or out front for that matter) will willingly or peacefully give up a single iota of power? The reason that no one, including Hitler, survived after "naming the jew", is because there was not enough public support among people who acted against their own best interests.

The only people who know how to read between media lines are already US: WNs, WP, Klan, separatists, skins, anti-zionists, etc. In other words, we absolutely need to "name the jew" every chance we get, precisely to get through to the people who CAN'T read between those lines.

The one thing I agree with you on is the timing issue, but concerning the time for action. Nothing can happen until the vast majority of White people feel sufficiently life-threatened to either stand with us or at least stand aside. There are over 180-million Whites in the U.S.; there are about 6-million of them. Who would really benefit from avoiding confrontation, us or them? Again, just a question.
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Old May 5th, 2008 #43
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Then my question is, when will it work and what will we do to get to that point? Do you in some way believe that the jews behind the scenes (or out front for that matter) will willingly or peacefully give up a single iota of power? The reason that no one, including Hitler, survived after "naming the jew", is because there was not enough public support among people who acted against their own best interests.

The only people who know how to read between media lines are already US: WNs, WP, Klan, separatists, skins, anti-zionists, etc. In other words, we absolutely need to "name the Jew" every chance we get, precisely to get through to the people who CAN'T read between those lines.

The one thing I agree with you on is the timing issue, but concerning the time for action. Nothing can happen until the vast majority of White people feel sufficiently life-threatened to either stand with us or at least stand aside. There are over 180-million Whites in the U.S.; there are about 6-million of them. Who would really benefit from avoiding confrontation, us or them? Again, just a question.
Who are some of the public figures who named the Jew in the US? Henry Ford did, and although he never apologized for it, he was more or less forced to back down and stopped putting out his literature. Thomas Edison named the Jew, but in private. The Rev Billy Graham named the Jew in what, against his will, became public (with Nixon) but he groveled when confronted with it. Nixon named the Jew (but not in public - he died before it became public).

Marlon Brando, Mel Gibson and Dolly Parton all named the Jew and then groveled when the heat came down.

Many. many US publlic figures named the Jew privately but not publicly.

You gotta give David Duke credit -- I can't think of any other public figure that named the Jew and refused to back down. Of course Dr Kevin MacDonald and Don Black name the Jew but they aren't really public figures like Pat Buchanan is.

The Jewish supremacists always seem to exact a fiercesome price from public figures who name the Jew. They managed to send David Duke to prison after he went around to Arab countries and talked publicly about Neocon influence in Washington. He was a genuine political prisoner who Amnesty International wouldn't acknowledge. He was imprisoned not in a cell block but in a bay type room with lots of Black prisoners. He held his own. He is a hero to me!

What is my point? I don't know - just reflecting on it.
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Buchanan is a useful idiot for the Jew media. His presence allows them to say they're presenting all points of view but they're not because he's not saying the only thing worth saying on the Jew media: that the media are in fact Jewish.
 
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Pat is much to smart to be sucked into the down and out right wing crowd. He turns the enemy against itself, for instance he'll say things like America needs to protect its border and culture like isreal does. that way the only way the media can attack him is to attack isreal itself.

Pat doesn't want the down and out nazi clown to say his name with pride, he wants real white people to read between the lines and learn how to adapt to this PC era we live in. Radicalness at an extreme level only attracts losers and feds. The white people that carry this country are the ones Good Old Pat is trying reach, not the trailer trash.
Your implication here is that we're trailer trash for challenging the jew-pawn Buchanan. And I won't beat around the bush and state directly that I believe you're the enemy of White people.

I will not address a piece of shit like you again.

To the greater audience, I say.....It's obvious to the more astute White Nationalist that Buchanan is a jew tool. He's enriched himself at the jew's trough of payola for for his cleverly constructed mock opposition.

The jew will use an assortment of mock opposition and disseminate that to the masses based upon I.Q. level of the targeted group. We clearly see here who Buchanan's target audience is. Buchanan is dangled-out in front of the noses of the far right and he tosses-out just enough crumbs of truth to keep the herd in the corral and clinging to the belief that some truth still leaks out from the jew-controlled media.

Buchanan, out of the same mold as Rush Limbaugh, is a media whore for the jew. For both, their modus operandi is essentially the same. It's to get gullible people to identify with a White media personality who pretends to reflect the masses' outrage and then leads them, like Piped Piper or a ditto head if you will, down into a harmless mindset that believes that the media personality will take care of everything by virtue of the strength of his media persona.

If anyone here believes that Buchanan is doing any good for White people by virtue of his few crumbs of truth, I say that you're naive and a sucker for mock opposition. For it is a fact that no one has ever been formed into a anti-establishment revolutionary willing to take up arms against ZOG because of Buchanan's rhetoric. With Buchanan there is never a call to action, other than to "vote the rascals out of office", and that plays into the jew's schemes and has kept right wing Whites in the pen since at least the time of Buchanan's first political speech.

It's utterly preposterous that anyone calling themselves an authentic WN could believe that the jew would ever allow any White person a media bully pulpit of any sort whereby they could spew potential harm to the jew. The jew is anal retentive to the extreme when it comes to it's media and it would be ludicrous to believe otherwise, unless of course one didn't have sufficient brainpower to see the patterns of the jew's mock opposition.

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For it is a fact that no one has ever been formed into a anti-establishment revolutionary willing to take up arms against ZOG because of Buchanan's rhetoric. With Buchanan there is never a call to action, other than to "vote the rascals out of office", and that plays into the jew's schemes and has kept right wing Whites in the pen since at least the time of Buchanan's first political speech.
I'd say that about sums it up. Thank you Brutus, for saying it better than I could.

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Designating the jew as responsible for the emasculation of our people is political suicide for a mainstream commentator. Its also a waste of time for fringe commentators to designate the jew as responsible for the plight of our people. Since the death of Hitler fringe commentators have done just that. Even some mainstream commentators have identified the jew as responsible for the decline and fall of white western civilisation.
All this identification and denunciation of the jew has not succeeded in creating a mass movement of sufficient number to wield any political influence or power in any western nation. On the contrary the identification of the jews as being solely responsible for all of the problems created by modern life is a cop out by lazy people. Often fantasists who need to be able to project their own failures in their own personal life onto a specific enemy.
All available evidence indicates that political power and influence albeit minor obtained by whites with a racial imperative in the west has been achieved by NOT identifying the jew as solely responsible for our plight.
The road to political power in western liberal democracies is via political activity within and as close to the mainstream as possible. This means activists must actually look like sober normal regular members of the white electorate and not poorly advised Third Reich re-enactors. It entails moving toward the political centre and out of the self created ghetto of the absolutist dead end.
Activists and would be activists need to realise that without total political power they are not going to re-educate the white masses.
Activists even fantasy internet activists have to ask themselves the question do they want political power or do they want to bitch and whine in perpetuity? The enemy rival races have made the sacrifice and done it, the bantu Obama,the shtetyl dwellers have done it."Why shoot, they dress and act like 'dem white folks".Yet according to regular posters here what we need is more boots and short haircuts, or more authentic uniforms. What we need is more courage and confidence in our own abilities to match and surpass the rival races and the renegade politicians in the political arena.
If as the obtuse originator of this post requests Buchanan was to adopt an anti - Semitic public position would he be doing it as a skinhead or a re-enactor? It is because Buchanan is a mainstream commentator that people are interested in his comments from a racial perspective. He did not become a mainstream commentator by adopting bizarre dress codes or believing any old tosh written by a same mindset paranoid looking for a reason for his personal and or political failure.
 
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He did not become a mainstream commentator by adopting bizarre dress codes or believing any old tosh written by a same mindset paranoid looking for a reason for his personal and or political failure.
Nobody is suggesting that Pat should don a Swastika, get a bunch of skinhead tattoos and run around foaming at the mouth and howling at the moon.

Our assertion is that by failing to name the jew, he is doing the work of the jew by keeping 'right wingers' running around in circles and keeping them from recognizing that it is the jew.


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For it is a fact that no one has ever been formed into a anti-establishment revolutionary willing to take up arms against ZOG because of Buchanan's rhetoric. With Buchanan there is never a call to action, other than to "vote the rascals out of office", and that plays into the jew's schemes and has kept right wing Whites in the pen since at least the time of Buchanan's first political speech.
Is it not possible that a lot of people may have come to beliefs, closer to what is acceptable to you, through a person like Buchanan? We need people like this. they do a lot more being in a position where they are still in the public eye and accessible by average people. Is it never possible that a white man is not being used by the jew, as much as it could be a situation where that man knows how to play the game in a way that allows them to be using the jew?

There has also been not one thing accomplished by the kind of people who do say all of the things you might want them to say. The kind of people who do call for revolutionary action. They have come. they have gone. some are still here and still we live in this mess. And it is not due to people like Buchanan, it is due to things not quite being at what people might see as the breaking point.
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Designating the jew as responsible for the emasculation of our people is political suicide for a mainstream commentator.
Of course this is true as long as the jew controls the mass media.

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Its also a waste of time for fringe commentators to designate the jew as responsible for the plight of our people. Since the death of Hitler fringe commentators have done just that.
Fringe commentators? You mean truth tellers, don't you? And since when did telling the truth become a waste of time?

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Even some mainstream commentators have identified the jew as responsible for the decline and fall of white western civilisation.
Do tell? Why not tell us of these mythical White characters? Please save the jew commentator examples for a less accomplished debater. Let's try to keep this real.

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All this identification and denunciation of the jew has not succeeded in creating a mass movement of sufficient number to wield any political influence or power in any western nation.
The internet is relatively new. Give it time. I wouldn't say that those 10s of thousands of newly awakened Whites are anything to sneeze at. It's inevitable, that there'll come a tipping point and the old political structure will become irrelevant to the majority of Whites and forcibly pushed aside by the more radical elements of that majority.

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On the contrary the identification of the jews as being solely responsible for all of the problems created by modern life is a cop out by lazy people. Often fantasists who need to be able to project their own failures in their own personal life onto a specific enemy.
These ideas are primarily fantasies in the minds of jews. And they believe those things at their own peril. Attempting to pin psychological inadequacies on Whites isn't going to work. That old dog don't hunt around here anymore. Those transparent tricks had their day. It's over.

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All available evidence indicates that political power and influence albeit minor obtained by whites with a racial imperative in the west has been achieved by NOT identifying the jew as solely responsible for our plight.
This is folderol. The available evidence should tell even the dullest wit that Whites have been losing power in western nations, and it's to the point where we wield absolutely no power as a unified group. Our power is growing outside of the jew-constructed corral. And contrary to your assertion, the jew as plainly expressed and identified as the unequivocal adversary of Whites is the unifying cord that ties our movement together.

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The road to political power in western liberal democracies is via political activity within and as close to the mainstream as possible. This means activists must actually look like sober normal regular members of the white electorate and not poorly advised Third Reich re-enactors. It entails moving toward the political centre and out of the self created ghetto of the absolutist dead end.
I agree with this, with the caveat that it should be understood that as long as the jew controls the media, they also control public opinion and thus they shape the outcomes of elections. This has the effect of rendering our vote a complete sham. In a sane world controlled by Whites, the media should serve as a watch dog against the government, but in this jew-controlled society, we see that the media and the government have become one in the same.

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Activists and would be activists need to realise that without total political power they are not going to re-educate the white masses.
This is the cart before the horse.

The masses will be educated right here on the internet to the pain caused by the jew, and then logic dictates that they'll be inclined exact their revenge against the jew. Once the jews are beaten down, then we can get back to giving meaningful education to our youth and this time we'll inculcate a formidable resistance to re-infestation of the jew parasite.

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Activists even fantasy internet activists have to ask themselves the question do they want political power or do they want to bitch and whine in perpetuity? The enemy rival races have made the sacrifice and done it, the bantu Obama,the shtetyl dwellers have done it."Why shoot, they dress and act like 'dem white folks".Yet according to regular posters here what we need is more boots and short haircuts, or more authentic uniforms. What we need is more courage and confidence in our own abilities to match and surpass the rival races and the renegade politicians in the political arena.
As far as Obama is concerned, let's put the cards on the table......It's the jew who disguises it's minions in White attire.

Also, most of us here realize that wearing Nazi uniforms will turn-off most Whites and be counter productive in most instances and furthermore, only a few here still demand German uniforms in the streets. Rather, the majority here tend to look toward today's eastern European and Russian WNs as the model for our street activism. Admittedly we're behind the curve, and this has much to do with a relatively better economy in America, this in contrast with our European and Russian Brothers' economic situation. However as this recession in the U.S. grinds it's way down into the inevitable depression, that's when we'll see radicalized Whites take to the streets in earnest.

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If as the obtuse originator of this post requests Buchanan was to adopt an anti - Semitic public position would he be doing it as a skinhead or a re-enactor? It is because Buchanan is a mainstream commentator that people are interested in his comments from a racial perspective. He did not become a mainstream commentator by adopting bizarre dress codes or believing any old tosh written by a same mindset paranoid looking for a reason for his personal and or political failure.
Calling the original poster obtuse is very telling. And your exaggerations and mis-characterizations of what he said may also reveal much as to your political orientation.

Why not take this opportunity to dispel any suspicions that I might have as to your motives for being here?

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What "sacrifices" have the "minorities" made to be given entitlements? What the fuck are you talking about? http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/v...liciousDuo.htm

Are you are saying whites are being marginalized because they "are not going along with the program" enough. I would say the opposite.

The road to political power in western liberal democracies is via political activity within and as close to the mainstream as possible.

Hi there, Amy Jo Diaz. Still dizzy from hosting this weekends "brother train" event in the big tearadome. How do you expect us to gain this kind of political control? Or persuade the kikes to give up theirs of the media, federal reserve etc, peacefully?

I think they are just exaggerating the whole thing, huh?

You don't actually "think" anyone ELSE is stupid enough to come on this board and spout this same bullshit to us that you do with just about every other monkey-er of yours.

The text in bold should be a required signature for all Amy/Silvia faggot sock puppets.

I used to be able to escape TNB by going to the library [or VNN Forum]. Not so anymore. I had 3 coontacts in only a few minutes.

...Finally, I came across a she-boon blocking an aisle of shelves with her hundred acre ass. She was sitting in the floor just yanking books off the shelves. She was drooling. The ironic part was that she'd sat her fat ass in a section holding execise books. Hah! I couldn't get around her and asked if she could move long enough for me to get a book. She went berserk. She apparently had more rights than the average nigger turd.

When she'd done yelling, I told her just to go ahead and stay on her fat ass. It might kill her to try to move it. Here comes another wave. I just walk off giggling. The she-boon keeps yelling like I'm still there and give a rat's ass. If niggers could get red-faced, she would have been.

And, that was my day at the library. No wonder no one wants to support it anymore. What a shame. I'm afraid it's going to be niggerfuxated in a few years.

Two odd nigger beliefs are:

1) If you shout bullshit loud enough, it becomes true.

2) If you repeat bullshit often enough, it becomes true.

Neither of the above has ever worked for a nigger, but they all still cling to the above tenets as divine truth.

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Then my question is, when will it work and what will we do to get to that point? Do you in some way believe that the jews behind the scenes (or out front for that matter) will willingly or peacefully give up a single iota of power? The reason that no one, including Hitler, survived after "naming the jew", is because there was not enough public support among people who acted against their own best interests.

The only people who know how to read between media lines are already US: WNs, WP, Klan, separatists, skins, anti-zionists, etc. In other words, we absolutely need to "name the jew" every chance we get, precisely to get through to the people who CAN'T read between those lines.

The one thing I agree with you on is the timing issue, but concerning the time for action. Nothing can happen until the vast majority of White people feel sufficiently life-threatened to either stand with us or at least stand aside. There are over 180-million Whites in the U.S.; there are about 6-million of them. Who would really benefit from avoiding confrontation, us or them? Again, just a question.
Fair questions of course, there are no easy answers.
I have my ideas about this, I do not think it right to go on in public with debate on a sensitive topic. Silly maybe, it is my hope my dreams will become reality, and for that I use caution which I think it deserves.
There must be some form of conflict to resolve the issue of majority rights in white homelands, certainly.
When, how are questions that can not be answered. I think it is important until the situation becomes more clear to educate the mass of whites on the dangers facing us as a race, and to be slowly brought around to a healthy mindset, and in this I think there is no doubt Buchanon is trying to do in any way he can without bringing himself down - And those that slam him for this for not doing enough are sure more tools of jews than he will ever be.
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I was having a hard time to make up my mind on Pat B. I actually gave someone "rep" for sticking up for him, convinced he was doing his best.

But today, while I was cleaning the house, I found lying around in the mess a little piece of paper on which, a couple of years ago, I had copied something I found on the internet. As follows:
Cautious, careful people always casting about to preserve their reputation or social standards never can bring about reform. Those who are really in earnest are willing to be anythng or nothing in the world's estimation, and publicly and privately, in season and out, avow their sympathies with despised ideas and their advocates, and bear the consequences.
Should any of us here look down on Buchanan for not exhibiting courage? Maybe, maybe not. He does have a lot of money, he's old, he doesn't have little kiddies who would be ostracised or beaten up at school, etc. etc. Maybe in the autumn (or is it winter) of his life he should, as someone suggested, "grow a sack". On the other hand, the consequences may be more than he could bear. Only he himself knows.
 
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