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Old April 5th, 2008 #1
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We do not have a world view. The Jews do. They are busy establishing it all over the world. The peculiar thing is they need western resources to realize their world view. They need western wealth, technology and military might to attain their new world order. This begs the question - if the Jews need our resources to rule the world why are we not using our own resources to rule the world? It is clear we have everything except a plan.

Unlike the Jews, we do not have a world view! Hitler proved that a single western nation cannot rule itself on its own. This Hero had the right idea, but not the global outlook or power.

No one western nation can even survive on its own. Not when there is an alien group that has gotten powerful off western resources and pushing a one-world rule.

Obviously, we need a global plan. It takes a world view and a unified force to implement it. The Jews have put us in a position where we must rule the world in order to keep them from ruling it.

So, what are the Jews doing and how are they doing it that we need to be doing?
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Excellent point !

They get their hands on the levers of money , media and political power . Self evident , but should always be kept in mind .

They have almost total solidarity with members of their tribe .

This topic really needs to be expanded . It is probably THE most important point for us .
 
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Obviously, we need a global plan. It takes a world view and a unified force to implement it. The Jews have put us in a position where we must rule the world in order to keep them from ruling it.
That's so obvious , I've never thought about it

An obvious corollary, that follows from the above , jews should never be allowed any power whatsoever . They have always proven to be abusers of power , in any form .
 
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First, the formula. Next, a plan. Then, the agenda.

People will follow an agenda.
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Great idea that needs to be expanded upon.

This topic is important enough to make this thread a stickie for a while.

You're a great thinker HB!

How about the rest of you?

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Well , the obvious but the public isn't ready for , global rule by a confederation of White nations .

( Being WN , I still want each White nation to have its own identity , Swiss be Swiss , Dutch be Dutch . I don't want a Walmart world .)
 
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nobody wants to rule the world on a full tummy. People don't even care about their own children when they're sexually satiated.
 
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[The jews see themselves as a people, and a people at war with every other. Jews are hyperorganized, and they create plans and blueprints in order to control their future.

Whites by contrast, due to whatever cause, see themselves as individuals. They do not feel persecuted. So they join no White groups, and they make no White blueprints. The very notions strike them as bizarre.

The jews are able to pick us off one by one because there is never intense or obvious enough pressure on any given point to elicit a mass White response.]


Peres To Convene Confab on Israeli and Jewish Future

By Nathan Guttman
Thu. Apr 03, 2008

Jerusalem — More than a thousand leading politicians, scholars and scientists from around the world are set to convene in Jerusalem next month with the lofty goal of outlining a blueprint for the future of Israel and the Jewish people.

The global leaders will gather in the Jewish state May 13 for “Facing Tomorrow,” a three-day conference convened by Israeli President Shimon Peres to coincide with the country’s 60th anniversary celebrations. The list of scheduled participants boasts an impressive variety of figures, from politicians like President Bush, Tony Blair and Mikhail Gorbachev, to business moguls such as Google’s Sergey Brinn and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, to entertainment stars such as Barbra Streisand.

Against the backdrop of what are viewed by many in Israel as dull and ordinary events celebrating Israel’s 60th, the conference stands out for its ambitious goals and its A-list invitees. The gathering is the brainchild of Peres, the last remaining leader from the generation that founded the state.

Peres has been ridiculed in the past for his grand visions of a new Middle East, but he is now setting out to take on nothing less than the future of the Jewish people. And in typical Peres fashion, he wants to redefine the basic structure of relations among Israel, the Jewish people and the world.

“It is time to change the nature of the partnership between the various parts of the Jewish people,” Peres told the Forward. “It needs to be less materialistic and more intellectual.” Israel, he argued, should aspire to become a “leading world laboratory” for thought, technology and science.

The idea for the conference, dubbed a “Jewish Davos,” after the famed annual meeting of world leaders at the eponymous Swiss ski resort, came from Peres himself shortly after he took office last year. The gathering’s agenda will be set by the Jewish People Policy Planning Institute, a Jerusalem-based think tank that for the past several years has brought together Jewish scholars and leaders to discuss the future of the Jewish people.

“We are trying to look at the possible tomorrows through three lenses: leadership, morals and ethics, and creativity,” said Avinoam Bar-Yosef, director general of JPPPI.

Organizers say the three-day conference will produce several projects that will bring Israel closer to realizing Peres’s vision. Among the ideas being discussed are founding an academy for Jewish leadership in Israel and taking on at least one technological project of unprecedented magnitude in the Jewish state.

“I want us to be as ancient as the Ten Commandments and as young as nanotechnology,” Peres told the Forward in describing his vision for the future of the country.

The 84-year-old Nobel laureate was sworn in as president this past July. Over the course of six decades, he has served in numerous senior positions, from assistant to David Ben-Gurion to two terms as prime minister. The gravitas attached to his name goes a long way toward explaining why Peres was able to convene such a conference when a similar effort by his predecessor, Moshe Katzav, made little headway.

According to Peres, what makes his conference different from past efforts to bring together Israelis and Diaspora Jews to discuss the future of the Jewish people is the breaking of old patterns. The conference, he notes, will focus on individuals rather than on the communal organizations that have traditionally been viewed as representing the Jewish people.

“Today there are many Jews in the world who don’t have a checkbook but are not any less important,” Peres said. “The world today is much more intellectual. One person can create a revolution; you don’t need an organization for that.”

The Israeli president also hopes to steer Israel-Diaspora relations away from the cause that for decades has united the far-flung Jewish people: the fight against antisemitism.

“The Jews spend too much time being apologetic,” Peres said. “They spend too much time on issues like fighting antisemitism. Antisemitism is not a Jewish disease, so let the non-Jews treat it. It is their disease.”

http://www.forward.com/articles/13105/
 
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If Whites called a "Facing Tomorrow" conference, who would show up?

200 people

- 80 illiterate Klansmen
- 40 ceta male conservatives
- 20 crazy people
- 20 nazi dragsters
- 40 more or less normal, righteously angry people
 
Old April 5th, 2008 #10
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If Whites called a "Facing Tomorrow" conference, who would show up?

200 people

- 80 illiterate Klansmen
- 40 ceta male conservatives
- 20 crazy people
- 20 nazi dragsters
- 40 more or less normal, righteously angry people
Hitler began the third reich with 12 people in a bar.

12 people who are united is a formiddable force. if they realize the power they have, that they can conquer any other group of less than 12 people, they can really do alot.
Imagine a cabal of 12 people within a government agency, they would effectively rule that agency, more or less, as long as they remained steadfast and loyal in their secrecy.

It doesn't take alot of people, it just takes a few people with good sense, to know what to do, how to do it, how to conspire and use their friendship to control a large, unorganized population. A handful of Jews, maybe a few thousand control with incredible detail a horde of 300 million people in the US, they seek to destroy religion because it may unite people in a rival gang, they seek to destroy race for the same reason. Do they do it consciously? Absolutely, just like all people do it consciously, they're just better at it. Quit whining about how evil they are, you're just as evil, but not as smart or talented at it.

All members of the group must understand that the purpose of the group is to intimidate other people, like the Jews and niggers do, they are never under any delusions as to what the purpose of their group is. Whites have come to believe the non-sense that they are here to help people, that is the purpose of their organizations. the purpose of any group is power and status of group members, and to intimidate and dominate others, sometimes by pretending to help them or assimilating them and making use of them.

this is still the 2+2 phase, it's along way from here to world conquest.

If the whites in your group don't know what 2+2 is, then they don't belong in your group. One idiot and a gang of 12 can never do anything.
 
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Peres told the Forward. “It needs to be less materialistic and more intellectual.”
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Other than being ludicrous , what do these coded phrases mean ?

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Old April 6th, 2008 #12
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I am a little overwhelmed that my thread was stickied. Thank you.

I will get back to this later. I have been trying to write a post, but it is very late and I am too sleepy to make sense.

Thanks, Alex for the article. It clearly shows the Jews are holding intense, high level meetings, forming think tanks and planning new strategies to implement their plans for a new world order.

The White Man has been ruling the world by default. It came naturally, not by design. White genius produces Science. Science raises the quality of life world-wide and makes us the world's leader by default. This is how the Jews got the idea they can replace us in our exalted position and rule the world themselves. It is bizarre, but true.
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Science raises the quality of life world-wide and makes us the world's leader by default.
Is that something you've thought about for more than two minutes?

Let's assume, against my better judgement, that quality of life is a concept which can be objectively quantified and measured. How did you come to the conclusion that quality of life in say, Germany, is higher today than it was, say, four thousand years ago? Are you equating quality of life with ease of living? With material wealth? With banal entertainments?

Sure, four thousand years ago I couldn't turn on a tap for my fluoride-injected drinking water, but I could take a swim in the river without coming out with two heads. Sure, four thousand years ago I didn't have an automobile to cough up its fumes into a congested, concrete cityscape, but there was no reason in the world to have to cross thosed forested paths and flowering meadows to go further than the next village. Sure, four thousand I didn't have electric light to illumine the dark, but I could look up at the night sky and actually see stars. Sure, four thousand years ago I couldn't run down to the supermarket to get my plastic-sealed, preservative-filled cardboard extract to eat, but I'd make do with meat off the bone, vegetables from the earth, bread from the oven and milk fresh from the cow. Sure, four thousands years ago I didn't get to slave away for eight hours a day, six days a week, in an industry to line some Jew's pockets, but I only had to till, hunt and build according to my own needs. Sure, four thousands years ago the runt of my litter might die from a bout of flu, but I'd have seven others to take his place.

If my quality of life is better than that of my ancestors, why is it that I would gladly trade places them?

Do you think anyone from Hallstadt, Knossos or Athens would like to trade places with you?

Wold view axiom 1: There is no such thing as "human progress".
 
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Is that something you've thought about for more than two minutes?
World view Axiom 2:
Women are too busy to think longer than that.
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Let's assume, against my better judgement, that quality of life is a concept which can be objectively quantified and measured.
But then lets add something new to the equation - lets also divide by the total people sharing this life quality concept. Gee even if quality has increased by a factor of 4 I am still a hobo!

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How did you come to the conclusion that quality of life in say, Germany, is higher today than it was, say, four thousand years ago?
I think the point the Romans would make is that contrary to the Germans (Albeit this was later) they have a more definite method of living and a more consistent supply of food. In my opinion this is the most significant "achievement" humans can achieve if they of course don't step over the line to become America.

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Are you equating quality of life with ease of living? With material wealth? With banal entertainments?
That's essentially the modernistic look on it.
I have more duckets than you thus I must be a better person because I somehow happen to be better at getting them. If I spend those duckets on something useless you happen to be better at spending less sheckles than me. Makes sense right?
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Sure, four thousand years ago I couldn't turn on a tap for my fluoride-injected drinking water, but I could take a swim in the river without coming out with two heads.
Two heads are better than one...



Or more if you're an overgrown lizard. Don't try democracy with this variant kids, you'll end up with dead heads all over your house.

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Sure, four thousand years ago I didn't have an automobile to cough up its fumes into a congested, concrete cityscape, but there was no reason in the world to have to cross thosed forested paths and flowering meadows to go further than the next village.
I find this concept of walking strange.

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Sure, four thousand I didn't have electric light to illumine the dark, but I could look up at the night sky and actually see stars.
Or you could be even more creative by catching a stick on fire and then bringing along more sticks to catch on fire. No batteries required!

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Sure, four thousand years ago I couldn't run down to the supermarket to get my plastic-sealed, preservative-filled cardboard extract to eat, but I'd make do with meat off the bone, vegetables from the earth, bread from the oven and milk fresh from the cow.
But how can you lift a hand against those cute animals?! Wouldn't you rather a rabbi humanely slits its throat and then tax you for him doing so? No? Oi vei
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Sure, four thousands years ago I didn't get to slave away for eight hours a day, six days a week, in an industry to line some Jew's pockets, but I only had to till, hunt and build according to my own needs.
But what would you do when all of this was done?! How would you ever conquer boredom without such great classics as the Jerry Springer Show, CNN, My Life and Dr.Phil?
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Sure, four thousands years ago the runt of my litter might die from a bout of flu, but I'd have seven others to take his place.
But thats INHUMANE! All people deserve to live simply because they were born!!! zomg. See? That's progress, we have more runts and idiots today than ever. It's like a zoo without the bars, it makes me feel so warm inside... Except for the occasional lesion of a bullet or a knife wound. No problem though, I can always go to Doctor Weinsberg or Robinovich to fix my ails by treating them while never curing me.

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If my quality of life is better than that of my ancestors, why is it that I would gladly trade places them?
I agree on this. But also: Did any of our ancestors have to live among apes and even be forced to swing from vine to vine with them? Worst yet did they have to call it a cultural experience? I thought not. Just for that id rather be born a few centuries back.

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Do you think anyone from Hallstadt, Knossos or Athens would like to trade places with you?
Athens would rather import all the newer thinkers and leave everyone else to go on with their life...or rather existence.

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Wold view axiom 1: There is no such thing as "human progress".
Correct, there is only evolution. That can be human-mediated but for some reason it's not.

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How did you come to the conclusion that quality of life in say, Germany, is higher today than it was, say, four thousand years ago?
Uh , the fact that you will live past 40 . Of your 19 children , more than 2 will reach adulthood. That your over 30 and have more than 4 teeth in your head.
The last time your were stalked by a leopard or bear , was ? When the harvest failed and hunting wasn't good , your neighbors saw you as a viable food source . That lush forest you described looks much different with 2 meters of snow and a howling wind at 20 below zero . Your first 4 wives died in childbirth while still in their teens . If you want another one , you will have to raid the next tribe for a preteen girl , if they don't kill you . That is if the 'head man' of your tribe didn't decide there were too many males in the tribe already and had you castrated or killed before puberty . If your starving parents hadn't abandon you as an infant in the forest because there wasn't any food .

You're living in a Rousseauian daydream .

Sounds groovy , you have first booking on the time machine .

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That's sooo cute , you should become a comic .
 
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Maybe the plan is like, to eventually, eugenically, create the "master-race", where those positive things that define the White race are taken to the extreme:
hardy, tough, folk with indefinite lifespans (using stem-cells and cloned organs);
funloving; charismatic; creative; trustworthy loyal helpful friendly courteous kind obedient cheerful thrifty brave clean (ir)reverant

what "menu" of attributes would you want your offspring to inherit? what modern-day people most typify the ideal White? the future will answer the question: what is White?
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This can be kinda compared to nationalism, which put the nation-state over everything - here the White race is put above everything; in a sense these are anti-thetical.

Of course, what would end up happening probably is a bunch of different races would emerge, depending upon the inevitable differences in decisions and judgements, so distinct "nations" would really become like distinct races, or sub-races (nationalism would merge into racism).

Will the various nation-races live in harmony?
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This can be kinda compared to nationalism, which put the nation-state over everything - here the White race is put above everything; in a sense these are anti-thetical.
The idea is that the White species will gain interest in living in one state which later will unify the rest of the Aryan world under a common uniform.

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This hasn't happened in the past couple of millennia so no it will not happen. Now that there is a lot of force at disposal its unlikely that this will be true.
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No simply because it will be a join or die sort of ordeal, its quite obvious that if America continues its journey down the levels of degradation its people will die out.
 
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No, what I mean is vaious groups of White people will have different ideas about the kind of offspring they want to eugenically design: some will want kinda autistic-savante types who excel at mathematics or music but at the expense of being in their own worlds most of the time; others will want empathetic, communal offspring, etc...

Also realise these "group-races" don't have to be based on a "nation" concept: think like the Bene Gesserit; they don't even have to be local to each other. So a group of (White) people would enter into a contract regarding the type of ueber-race they want to create, with penalties for people going outside the group rules, just like the Bene Gesserit.
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