Abu Ghraib Whistleblower: "Rat/Traitor"...or "Hero"???

[YANKEE_JIM]

Abu Ghraib Whistleblower Worries

Anderson Cooper Interviews Whistleblower Joe Darby

Dec. 7, 2006

CBS) Like most soldiers serving in Iraq, Joe Darby just wanted to go home when his time was up. But blowing the whistle on his unit members for abusing Iraqi prisoners changed all that, and now the former military police specialist lives in an undisclosed city with his wife, still worried for their safety.

Darby talks to CNN's Anderson Cooper on 60 Minutes, this Sunday at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

"I worry about the one guy who wants to get even with me, and that one guy could hurt me and my family," says Darby. That one guy could be from his hometown of Cumberland, Md., where many in his unit lived.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2238188.shtml


I'm not even sure myself.

Here's one thing I am sure of though. Anderson Cooper needs to be beat with an oil soaked piece of two by four.


-Jim

[Prussian Eagle]

He's an absolute scumbag. Doesn't matter that it's a bullshit war, you don't turn on your buddies, especially not something stupid as this

[1588]

I voted for scumbag rat/traitor. Since when is grassing up your own "doing the right thing"?

Some of the stupid White liberal comments posted under that linked article show exactly why the White race is in the state it's in. They're as soft as shit.

[Angler]

I consider those who were abusing the prisoners to be the traitors.

By committing the cowardly, dishonorable, and oh-so-Jewish acts of abuse against helpless prisoners, they were putting other soldiers in greater danger. If your enemy expects to be treated savagely when he's captured, he's much more likely to fight to the death rather than surrender, making him a more dangerous opponent. Also, if the US follows the Israeli example by abusing/torturing prisoners, then any US personnel who happen to be captured will probably be abused as well.

US soldiers, whether they know it or not, are already doing the work of the Jew in Iraq. (The vast majority don't know it and don't want to hear about it -- they'd rather believe the bullshit that they're "fighting for freedom.") That's a bad enough situation without them trying to emulate the kikes of the IDF.

[Donnachaidh]

Anyone who fucks over those that do the work of the jew is OK in my book.

[Prussian Eagle]

Originally Posted by Angler

If your enemy expects to be treated savagely when he's captured, he's much more likely to fight to the death rather than surrender, making him a more dangerous opponent.

And who was it that was responsible for the enemy hearing about this? If the sand niggers fight harder it's because of the rat that took the photos and leaked them, if he hadn't done that they never would've known.

[jimbo!]

Originally Posted by Prussian Eagle

And who was it that was responsible for the enemy hearing about this? If the sand niggers fight harder it's because of the rat that took the photos and leaked them, if he hadn't done that they never would've known

never would'v known? WTF?

nah....m8.....the reason the 'sand niggz' are fighting harder is because they know virtually ALL those fckn ZOG-boyz over there behave thusly!
(and: because: they know that the ZOG-boyz' actions are directed by their MOSSAD masters.....give the Iraqi insurgency somecredit!)

why should white racialists give a flying FUCK about the fate of these ZOG cuntz any-way?

wouldn't they be torturing & murdering white women & kids if their ZOG masters said to?

FUCK THEM!

(jimbo!)

[Dan Allan]

Anything that exposes the blatant hypocrisy of "Operation Enduring Freedom" is good with me.

[Konrad Jackson]

Really, this question is not even an issue. Of course it was good that he exposed them. He did us all a great favor by blowing the neocon holier-than-thou propaganda to smithereens.

He blew the whistle on behavior that he knew was not consistent with the picture the neocons were selling: the picture of a noble war drenched in the light of the heavens, against an evil enemy. What made the enemy evil, said the neocons, was not his motives, because we never really got to hear his motives, but the use of "terrorism," which would mean that certain acts are evil under any and all circumstances. And yet, here the neocon troops are, using even more disgraceful means, and it is accepted and covered up.

This showed Darby that something was wrong. The neocons were using even worse methods than those they had supposedly gone to war to stop. There was a huge and important lie buried here.

Also, Darby's White mind revolted against this behavior, which he no doubt felt deep in the core of his being was not right. He knew that a society doesn't just rest on laws, but on standards, which make up what we call a culture. He knew there was erosion going on.

As for "blowing the whistle on his comrades" and all that, I fail to see why he should be loyal to criminals just because they happen to share the same workplace. It's not like these were soldiers heroically fighting to defend their country from invasion. They joined for the money and financial benefits, and they are pretty far away from the shores of home and hearth. Up to no good.

Originally Posted by Prussian Eagle

And who was it that was responsible for the enemy hearing about this? If the sand niggers fight harder it's because of the rat that took the photos and leaked them, if he hadn't done that they never would've known.

Excellent!


Finally, consider another thing: would you like WN leaders to be arrested without trial, and then tortured like Palestinians and Iraqis, in the future? No? Then, when do you think is the right time to stop the evolvement of a torturing police state? Now, or a couple of years from now?

[Prussian Eagle]

Originally Posted by Konrad Jackson

Really, this question is not even an issue. Of course it was good that he exposed them. He did us all a great favor by blowing the neocon holier-than-thou propaganda to smithereens.

He blew the whistle on behavior that he knew was not consistent with the picture the neocons were selling: the picture of a noble war drenched in the light of the heavens, against an evil enemy. What made the enemy evil, said the neocons, was not his motives, because we never really got to hear his motives, but the use of "terrorism," which would mean that certain acts are evil under any and all circumstances. And yet, here the neocon troops are, using even more disgraceful means, and it is accepted and covered up.

This showed Darby that something was wrong. The neocons were using even worse methods than those they had supposedly gone to war to stop. There was a huge and important lie buried here.

Also, Darby's White mind revolted against this behavior, which he no doubt felt deep in the core of his being was not right. He knew that a society doesn't just rest on laws, but on standards, which make up what we call a culture. He knew there was erosion going on.

As for "blowing the whistle on his comrades" and all that, I fail to see why he should be loyal to criminals just because they happen to share the same workplace. It's not like these were soldiers heroically fighting to defend their country from invasion. They joined for the money and financial benefits, and they are pretty far away from the shores of home and hearth. Up to no good.




Excellent!


Finally, consider another thing: would you like WN leaders to be arrested without trial, and then tortured like Palestinians and Iraqis, in the future? No? Then, when do you think is the right time to stop the evolvement of a torturing police state? Now, or a couple of years from now?

I'm more worried about the loss of white values like loyalty; and a general unwillingness to do whatever is necessary to keep muds in line. The mental rot of "we are all human, we all have human rights, violence is always wrong, love is the way" that is promoted by the Jews is the reason whites are unwilling to fight back and beat down the mud races, I don't think we should buy into this mentality at all even if it looks like we will get a short term tactical gain. I'm all for pointing out Jewish hypocrisy to the peace/love hippie types and their 3rd worlder lackeys in order to drive a wedge between them and the Jews, but we have to be careful not to buy into the peace/love hippie mentality ourselves. As to hoping mercy for muds will lead to mercy for us down the road, existence at the pity or mercy of ZOG shouldn't be the end goal of ours.

[Australianrage]

Originally Posted by Prussian Eagle

He's an absolute scumbag. Doesn't matter that it's a bullshit war, you don't turn on your buddies, especially not something stupid as this

I could not disagree more.
As a former soldier there is no way that I stand by and/or say nothing if I saw fellow soldiers behaving in a dishonourable and/or illegal manner.
Perhaps the outlook of the Australian soldier is somewhat different to that of the American, which might be why the Iraqi resistance has (to date) not killed a single Australian soldier.

[Konrad Jackson]

Originally Posted by Prussian Eagle

I'm more worried about the loss of white values like loyalty; and a general unwillingness to do whatever is necessary to keep muds in line.

That is not what is going on here. First, those soldiers were not all White; that hideous woman, I forgot what her name is, is clearly a mongrel. Second, they are not fighting in a White vs. Mud war, but in a war for Jews against their enemies, regardless of race. Do you think that if he hadn't blown the whistle, that would make the army more WN? That it is now less WN when it can't torture Iraqis as easily as before? The army is an enemy institution, fighting for ZOG, not for us. The photographs we have seen are photographs of an enemy base.

Third, since when are White soldiers encouraged to shut their mouths about crimes committed by other soldiers? In what White army has that been a virtue? A value? Again, why should you be "loyal" to criminals just because you happen to share the same workplace?

The German army in WWII committed fewer rapes than any other nation involved in the war. It even committed fewer rapes than the U.S. army did on U.S. soil. Whites do not torture or rape for fun. German soldiers reported criminals in their ranks several times. I expect soldiers in all armies have done that. If you protect criminals, you hurt the army. More criminal acts, like rape and corruption and mass murder, are not far behind then, if they didn't already occur.

Remember as well: they did it all for fun, not to achieve any objective on behalf of the White race or even on behalf of the army. The dog leash, the dogs, the humiliation, the pictures of themselves laughing at the prisoners, clearly enjoying the torture. They took pleasure in causing other people to suffer. That is the definition of evil. This torture served no purpose; it was an act of evil.

Loyalty? Against criminal, evil, mongrel, enemy scum?

As to hoping mercy for muds will lead to mercy for us down the road, existence at the pity or mercy of ZOG shouldn't be the end goal of ours.

No, but anything that exposes and slows down the evolving police state is good. When U.S. forces start using torture on a wide scale, that is a very serious step. When foreigners are tortured, WNs may well be next. It is very good that the world, and ordinary Americans, have been made aware of that step.

[jimbo!]

Originally Posted by Australianrage

I could not disagree more.
As a former soldier there is no way that I stand by and/or say nothing if I saw fellow soldiers behaving in a dishonourable and/or illegal manner.
Perhaps the outlook of the Australian soldier is somewhat different to that of the American, which might be why the Iraqi resistance has (to date) not killed a single Australian soldier

ha ha....u got that right, m8!
i think the prblm is that they jes' dunno how many non-whites they hv in their ranks.....even the 'white-looking' troops are prblby ½ or ¼ kike.....there's jes' no knowin' how many jews there actually ARE in the jewSA!

these 'GI jews' didn't behave any differently in 'Nam from wot i'v heard: most Aussie troops wouldn't come within 'a country mile' of them if they could possibly help it: even being near these characters while on patrol was usually a death sentence: smokin' Marlboros while listening to blaring music from transistor radios and stinkin' to high heaven from that whole bottle of Brut 'after-shave' u jes' tipped over yr dial ain't a recipe for success in jungle war-fare!

come to think of it: if James Bacque's stuff is right: they weren't much different in WWII either!

(jimbo!)

[Prussian Eagle]

A lot of WNs are former military, we should be trying to recruit more of them instead of fat hippies.

If&when we remove the Jews, how do you guys propose we remove the nonwhites in our countries? Ask them nicely to leave? If for some reason they don't leave when we ask nicely, do you want a white populace that is used to honoring their democratic human rights or whatever, or one used to dealing with them as the scum they are

[Angler]

Originally Posted by Prussian Eagle

And who was it that was responsible for the enemy hearing about this? If the sand niggers fight harder it's because of the rat that took the photos and leaked them, if he hadn't done that they never would've known.

It's not that simple. Word gets out anyway from any prisoners who are eventually released.

Of course, if no prisoners are ever released to tell what they saw inside the prison, then word gets around from the prisoners' family and friends that "anyone who falls into the enemy's hands is never heard from again." Once again, that's a motivation to fight to the death.

[Subrosa]

Originally Posted by Donnachaidh

Anyone who fucks over those that do the work of the jew is OK in my book.

I agree. Let the ZOGlings turn on themselves. Traitor eat traitor, I say.

[SUNOFSPARTA]

Inexperience,gullibility,misinformation and plain old stupidity seem to permeate this adolescent atmosphere here.

Treating captured prisoners like children in day camp definitely does NOT save your worthless ass later when/if your captured.

As a matter of fact being "civil",humane and kind ONLY proves to your enemy that you are fearful of actually committing to the necessary difficult action at hand.

Extracting this information is absolutely critical to the mission of saving US lives.I've seen it and done it literally hundreds of times in over a dozen countries in over 40 years of real life warfare.

You people are completely out of your fucking skull if you believe otherwise.

I was the guy who order any and all kind of methods be use to find out what we needed.

I was the guy who tossed dozens of Slope killing machines out of helicopters so the "witnesses" on the ground would spill their guts or be next.

I was the guy that ordered it all, and if you fucking even hesitated for a fucking second your ass was history too.

I'm the guy who looked into their black cruel bloodshot eyes and yellow brown pock marked faces, and let them have their last look at a pair of white mans angry clear blue eyes,before I sent them spinning into eternity with their ancestors.

I was a Real soldier in Viet Nam and killed hundreds of Vietnamese,combatants,men ,women,children;captured,traitors and any other kind of filthy two legged slope motherfuckers walking,squatting or running.

As a Squad Leader I marched eleven men into combat every fucking day-specifically to murder and mutilated the enemy.THAT's what a real soldier does.

I got and earned The Silver Star and Two purple hearts in combat during 33 months in country and 26 combat missions for being shot in firefights twice,captured,tortured myself and then escaping AND returning to kill the filthy bastards who thought they had killed me.

Australian Army-is a fucking Joke!
Few people really have any concept of war.
It's fight /kill or die.Period;there is NO middle ground.

Captured prisoners ARE the key to successfully saving your own soldiers lives and your ass too.They ALL know vital information that needs to be exploited and delivered to the men facing the blood and shit on the front line.

I was the one who was ordered to tell men to risk their lives as a first line combat Sergeant 10,000 miles away from home for 250 million ungrateful,lazy ,cowardly people.

I lead where all were required to follow.I killed first and directed fire to kill more.I burned the villages and murdered the population of dozens of hamlets that covered hidden garrisons of North Vietnamese regular troops waiting to kill me and my men.

You bunch of fucking limp dick,half ass cowedly asshole motherfuckers have no idea of war -YET and even less an idea of what Real Arabs are or what they can and can not do.

I worked Arab drug dealers years later for the Feds and learned early on that Real first generation Arabs were a completely different kind of animal than Americans ever encountered before.

I've been to Iraq and Afghanistan and several other mid east locations as a paid adviser and seen first hand the hell these guys are "trying" to deal with.It's fucking unbelievable;you don't get 2% of the real deal here on CNN and FOX;But they are dealing with it regardless;with no help from assholes like you.Thats exactly why I advised them in my last debriefing before I left to execute any and all prisoners that had been captured and tortured.

They didn't listen.They paid me and fired me.End of transmission.

[Subrosa]

There you have it guys. From the horse's mouth:
Torturer.
Murderer.
Pig who set up suspects.
Paid advisor to the ZOG in Iraq.

Anything else you want to add, ZOGer?

[Mike in Denver]

Originally Posted by Subrosa

There you have it guys. From the horse's mouth:
Torturer.
Murderer.
Pig who set up suspects.
Paid advisor to the ZOG in Iraq.

Anything else you want to add, ZOGer?

Yep! And when his Jew owners tell him to torture, kill, and rape white Americans and their children, he'll do that too.

Good boy, Izzy loves his good boy. Cookie now.

Enkidu

[Slim]

Many of those prisoners were just ordinary shmoes taken off the street. If the photo's taken at Abu Graib were of our family members how would we react? All we have accomplished is to make the Arab world hate us even more. Based only on lies, we've been burning, butchering, maiming and killing untold numbers. We then take trophy pictures of torturing and humiliating them, being led around on leashes by females. You wonder why they hate us? How many more rabid anti - Americans have been created? I have no dog in that fight, it was all for Israel and the Jews.