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Old March 11th, 2004 #1
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Belgium is, and has always been, an imaginary country.
It's a leftist ploy, a tool used by the NWO to spread their leftist agenda throughout the world. Taking over a real country for this purpose would be impossible, the citizens would not stand for it. (Just look at the fall of communism) Therefore, the NWO decided to invent an imaginary country, and now they use it as a tool of global manipulation.
 
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Belgium is, and has always been, an imaginary country.
It's a leftist ploy, a tool used by the NWO to spread their leftist agenda throughout the world. Taking over a real country for this purpose would be impossible, the citizens would not stand for it. (Just look at the fall of communism) Therefore, the NWO decided to invent an imaginary country, and now they use it as a tool of global manipulation.
Your statements are valid...The Belgian Walloons naturally belong with France and the Belgian Flemish belong with Holland...it is a very thrown together country.
 
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Your statements are valid...The Belgian Walloons naturally belong with France and the Belgian Flemish belong with Holland...it is a very thrown together country.
The New World Order's Belgian Conspiracy Division and all its brainwashed "Belgians" actually live in a large, underground complex beneath Euro-Disneyland. This is where the "Belgians" are hooked up to virtual reality machines that make them think they are in "Belgium" so they can go forth and pester those of us who live in real countries.

Pictured below: "Belgian" Citizen's hooked up to virtual reality machines beneath Euro-Disneyland

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Old March 11th, 2004 #4
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they sure do brew some great beers, though.

 
Old March 11th, 2004 #5
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I agree with most of your arguments and I just want to add some more explanations.

I live in Belgium being half Belgian half French. Indeed Belgium doesn't have any real national identity as France or as the USA but this fact is mosly due to its historical bakcground. Before its independance Belgium had been occupied by Spain, Holland and France. In 1830 Belgium was artificially created for the benefit of the UK and France that didn't ask the new Belgian people's opinion. Then Flemish and Wallonian people were put together (and the German part of the country almost seems to have some lonely independance as it is officially too often ignored) though any "volksgeist" nor any language could be built to united the whole Belgian people. Belgian are supposed to live together in a Federal state though one could barely talk about a real national pride.
Indeed the leftists (especially the extreme leftists) are important but the belgian right extremists (very strong in Flandria) are getting a much more important influence. Some so called "belgian nationalist" movements try hard to safe some appearance of a Belgian identity as indeed there are only the Flemish or the Wallonian "communities" who talk about themselves.
The current Dutroux's trial points out a deeper "national" problem. Above the linguistic conflicts of the communities, this trial let appear a deeper identity crisis. As a country that had been historically occupied Belgium got too much used to keep silent about its deeply wrong aspects but there is a permanent worrying revolutionary attempt to make explose the only appearent fake Belgian unity.


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they sure do brew some great beers, though.

 
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they sure do brew some great beers, though.

Including these:
http://home.tiscali.be/proud2be/etiquettes/11978.htm
http://www.ratebeer.com/Ratings/Beer...sp?BeerID=6400
www.bocque.be
http://www.st-feuillien.com/ffri03eng.html
Scroll down this site:
http://www.brassicolement-votre.org/Html/du_bocq.html
 
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But Leon Degrelle thought of himself as a true Belgian, and never sought to detach Walloonia from the rest of the country. He was intent upon seeing Belgium remain a valid, independent entity in a new united Europe under Germany. His SS division was called Walloonia though, not Belge...

Isn't the entire history of Europe in the 18th, and even more 19th, centuries the never ending attempt to keep Germany/Europe down for the benefit of the rotten ruling classes and the British?



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I agree with most of your arguments and I just want to add some more explanations.

I live in Belgium being half Belgian half French. Indeed Belgium doesn't have any real national identity as France or as the USA but this fact is mosly due to its historical bakcground. Before its independance Belgium had been occupied by Spain, Holland and France. In 1830 Belgium was artificially created for the benefit of the UK and France that didn't ask the new Belgian people's opinion. Then Flemish and Wallonian people were put together (and the German part of the country almost seems to have some lonely independance as it is officially too often ignored) though any "volksgeist" nor any language could be built to united the whole Belgian people. Belgian are supposed to live together in a Federal state though one could barely talk about a real national pride.
Indeed the leftists (especially the extreme leftists) are important but the belgian right extremists (very strong in Flandria) are getting a much more important influence. Some so called "belgian nationalist" movements try hard to safe some appearance of a Belgian identity as indeed there are only the Flemish or the Wallonian "communities" who talk about themselves.
The current Dutroux's trial points out a deeper "national" problem. Above the linguistic conflicts of the communities, this trial let appear a deeper identity crisis. As a country that had been historically occupied Belgium got too much used to keep silent about its deeply wrong aspects but there is a permanent worrying revolutionary attempt to make explose the only appearent fake Belgian unity.
 
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The New World Order's Belgian Conspiracy Division and all its brainwashed "Belgians" actually live in a large, underground complex beneath Euro-Disneyland. This is where the "Belgians" are hooked up to virtual reality machines that make them think they are in "Belgium" so they can go forth and pester those of us who live in real countries.

Pictured below: "Belgian" Citizen's hooked up to virtual reality machines beneath Euro-Disneyland
Wait! I recognise this photo. Isn’t this Marc Dutroux’s pedarastic dungeon?
 
Old March 11th, 2004 #9
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they sure do brew some great beers, though.
My favorites are the trappistes such as Westmalle XXX, and Krak/Kwak which could be a "lambic." Up to 9% ABV.

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Old March 12th, 2004 #10
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Not only would the NWO have us believe in the existence of Belgium, they would have us think their illusory nation is a utopia. Typical of the Liberal Media, we have been inundated with pro-Belgium propaganda: Belgians' alleged superiority in the art of chocolate making; the reputed nutritional value of "Brussels sprouts"; how all quality diamonds can only be acquired through dealers in the mythical city of Antwerp; How french fries are actually a Belgian invention; and the "superior" martial artistry of Jean Claude Van Damme, the "Muscles from Brussels". Furthermore, Mystery! on PBS regularly depicts Belgians - such as Agatha Christie's "Hercule Poirot" - as personable sleuths who always outsmart non-Belgians and uncover pro-Belgium versions of "The Truth."
 
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I agree with most of your arguments and I just want to add some more explanations.

I live in Belgium being half Belgian half French. Indeed Belgium doesn't have any real national identity as France or as the USA but this fact is mosly due to its historical bakcground. Before its independance Belgium had been occupied by Spain, Holland and France. In 1830 Belgium was artificially created for the benefit of the UK and France that didn't ask the new Belgian people's opinion.
The Kingdom of the Netherlands came into being in 1815, carved out of former French territory following the defeat of Napoleon, and Belgium seceded from the Netherlands in 1830. A royal house closely related to the British royal house was then installed in Belgium.

At that time, Germany was not a great power. It appears that the use of Belgium (which had probably also been the original purpose of the Kingdom of the Netherlands) was to weaken France and to box in France geographically so that if France began to expand again the first move would give the British an excuse to get involved. Perhaps it was also the case that the Kingdom of the Netherlands had appeared too formidable to be allowed to continue in one piece.

On the other hand, I don't really know about all the intrigues that may have fueled the secession of Belgium from the Netherlands: maybe there was some French hope already in 1830 of reabsorbing part of the Netherlands into France, but that did not materialize. Instead Belgium was brought into the British orbit.

In both the First World War, and early in the Second, there seems to have been a heavy emphasis in British propaganda on the suffering of the Belgians. As a country with no history, and thus no reproaches such as might come to mind in the case of France, Belgium has been a handy country to portray as the innocent victim in British war-propaganda.

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Not only would the NWO have us believe in the existence of Belgium, they would have us think their illusory nation is a utopia. Typical of the Liberal Media, we have been inundated with pro-Belgium propaganda: Belgians' alleged superiority in the art of chocolate making; the reputed nutritional value of "Brussels sprouts"; how all quality diamonds can only be acquired through dealers in the mythical city of Antwerp; How french fries are actually a Belgian invention; and the "superior" martial artistry of Jean Claude Van Damme, the "Muscles from Brussels". Furthermore, Mystery! on PBS regularly depicts Belgians - such as Agatha Christie's "Hercule Poirot" - as personable sleuths who always outsmart non-Belgians and uncover pro-Belgium versions of "The Truth."
Which reminds me of another country with an unseen “Wall of China” type wall deviding a prosperous north and a life’s blood sucking south where the nation’s capital sits, namely Italy.
My 1st time in Brussels was in the Autumn of ’84. I stopped at a restaurant and ate my life’s 1st salad with the bugs still in it. Some important looking older dude wearing a suit and tie stood around and gave the impression that he was the owner or something. As we drove thru the countryside all we saw were amateurish homemade signs with “Fritters” written on them, a term similar to French Fries or fried objects. I thought that I was in the Canada of Europe.
 
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As we drove thru the countryside all we saw were amateurish homemade signs with “Fritters” written on them, a term similar to French Fries or fried objects. I thought that I was in the Canada of Europe.
Les Frittes. Belgians eat more French fries per capita than any other country in the world.

I think Wallonia has been impoverished largely through trade-policies. Also, I understand that Belgium let in a lot of southern-Italian immigrants to provide cheap industrial labor about the same time that the US did, roughly a century ago.

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Les Frittes. Belgians eat more French fries per capita than any other country in the world.

I think Wallonia has been impoverished largely through trade-policies.
I think Wallonia has been impoverished largely through Med work ethics and a siesta mentality. "Arbiet macht frei" to them
 
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The NWO have been hard at work dissimulating our reality. Through the deft use of relativism and red herrings like political correctness, they have been able to slip "Belgium" into history and geography without anyone noticing. The cleverness of this is almost laudable. Belgium history was designed with just enough territorial skirmishes, political struggles, and colonialism to make it blend in with the rest of Europe. That, combined with the co-opting of French and German historical figures and events creates an alternate history that meshes with the real one. Where does the contrivances stop and reality begin? What's more, under the auspices of the Liberal controlled Department of Education, our children are being forced to believe in these lies. History has been revised so many times that it's no wonder public schools want more money; they keep having to buy new history books!

Using the assumed voice of a nation, the NWO seeks to insinuate itself into world discussions, quietly changing the topic of conversations with a casual remark here, a whisper there. Need proof? The fictitious country of "Belgium" was a founding member of the European Union (which is, as you should be aware, step one in the march to the One World Government,) most of who's governing institutions are supposedly based in "Brussels." As are the headquarters of the Customs Cooperations Council (an Orwellian name if I ever heard one,) and other international bodies, unimportant and seemingly harmless now, that will have unaccountable jurisdiction to pass regulations and levy tariffs over any future global citizens.
 
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I can hear the Left now, "But how could the existence of an entire country, albeit a small one, be a hoax?" Radical art types will, of course, ramble on and on about Rubens, Van Dyck, and other assumed Belgian artists that they learned about in their "Liberal Education" Public school teachers would point out that if it weren't for "Belgium," there would be a blank spot between France and Netherlands on our maps, forgetting that the data for our maps came from CIA-controlled spy-satellites. Some aging hippies may even claim to have bought drugs there, but of what value are the delusions of a stoned counter-culturalist. They will all vehemently disagree with you if you DARE doubt the existence of "Belgium". They actually believe in it.
 
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I can hear the Left now, ...................a stoned counter-culturalist. They will all vehemently disagree with you if you DARE doubt the existence of "Belgium". They actually believe in it.
A puppet royalty was installed, completing the illusion
 
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The New World Order's Belgian Conspiracy Division and all its brainwashed "Belgians" actually live in a large, underground complex beneath Euro-Disneyland. This is where the "Belgians" are hooked up to virtual reality machines that make them think they are in "Belgium" so they can go forth and pester those of us who live in real countries.

Pictured below: "Belgian" Citizen's hooked up to virtual reality machines beneath Euro-Disneyland
Just one question.Should Brussels be Dutch or French?I agree,there is nothing between the two.It's a fascinating frontier town between the Roman Empire,and the places the Romans never got their hands on.In Britain,this division is called Hadrian's Wall,in the middle of knowhere.In Belgium,it runs through the capital city
 
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I think you will find, that Britain and Germany were very close allies. Up untill the 20th century. It was the Jews who destroyed that alliance.

If that is 'close allies' I'd hate to see distant ones. Allies as long as Germany is not Germany. The moment Germany is Germany though...
 
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I think Wallonia has been impoverished largely through Med work ethics and a siesta mentality. "Arbiet macht frei" to them
LOL I wish America would get some of those Med work ethics. I'm getting a wee sick of 51 weeks of work a year and ten to twelve hour days. I'd give my left nut to have vacation like Germans.

Siestas are fucking great dude. I live for a weekend siesta. Cochinillo asado, and siestas. Two things that make any trip to SPain worth repeating.

If the Walloons have taken that custom on, shows how smart they are. Or maybe just how Gallic. "savoir-vivre."
 
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