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Old September 4th, 2014 #41
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^^ Yeah I know. I should of checked them out more thoroughly before linking them here. In the video its clearly Foley and Sotloff, I have no idea why these conspiracy nuts try and assert that it isn't by comparing facial parts. I never thought it was some kind of acting double. I just thought it may be possible they aren't dead because Sotloff has possible Mossad links and so does ISIS and the videos don't actually show them being killed. So its a valid question.



Alex Jonestein is onto this now as well.



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Old September 14th, 2014 #42
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ISIS allegedly beheads another white man.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...id-Haines.html



 
Old November 1st, 2014 #43
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ISIS magazine, in English

http://media.clarionproject.org/file...ed-crusade.pdf
 
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quotes from isis mag in english

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War booty is more lawful than other income for
a number of reasons.

It is seized from one who does not deserve it,
because he uses it to aid himself in disobeying
Allah and associating others with Him.
 
Old November 4th, 2014 #45
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Yet as IS began its seemingly unstoppable rise in 2013, these groups were either swept away by it, or deciding it was better to join the winning team, simply defected bringing their weapons and money with them.
-wins by being more extreme

RISING MOVEMENTS ARE INTOLERANT. they dont hold sock hops with conservative fags, the too many WN do.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29004253
 
Old November 4th, 2014 #46
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The goal of IS militants is to create an independent Islamic State stretching from Iraq across to the Levant

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The pull of IS, a group that has outperformed all others in combat and put into place a slick media campaign in dozens of languages to attract young men and women to its cause, has proven highly successful.
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In every activity - from fighting, to organisation and hierarchy, to media messaging - IS is light years ahead of the assorted motley crew of opposition factions operating in the region.
 
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IS has displayed a consistent pattern since it first began to take territory in early 2013.

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Upon taking control of a town it quickly secures the water, flour and hydrocarbon resources of the area, centralising distribution and thereby making the local population dependent on it for survival.
 
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The case of Steven Sotloff contains a direct
refutation against those who portray western
journalism and humanitarian aid as purely innocent,
for this man was a Jew and citizen of
the Jewish state. In addition to his work for crusader
media including TIME, National Interest,
Foreign Policy, the Christian Science Monitor,
and the Long War Journal, he also “freelanced”
for two Jewish publications – the Jerusalem Report
and the Jerusalem Post. The war against
Islam for the sake of tāghūt is a media war as
well as a military and intelligence struggle. It is
not surprising then to know that dozens of specialists
were employed to hide his Jewish identity
from the world prior to his execution. This
intelligence operation was done in cooperation
with the Jewish state and media.


[Dabiq, on jew steven sotloff, p. 47, bold added]
http://media.clarionproject.org/file...ed-crusade.pdf
 
Old November 4th, 2014 #49
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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.623717

West making big mistake in fighting ISIS, says senior Israeli officer

IDF Northern Command officer says he thinks the U.S.-led coalition intervened too early against the Sunni militants, and 'not necessarily in the right direction.'

By Gili Cohen | Oct. 31, 2014
 
Old November 4th, 2014 #50
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[read all 4 Dubiq magazine issues. some quotes and high points, very interesting stuff, 3 & 4 in particular worth reading. each issue has enemy words, pictures of battles/executions, ideology from allah]

ISIS WORDS

kufr (disbelief)

malhamah

Every Muslim should get out of his house, find
a crusader, and kill him.

And the Islamic State will remain until its
banner flies over Rome.

hadith

Khilafah

It is a state where the Arab and non-Arab, the
white man and black man, the easterner and
westerner are all brothers.

[islam is a universalist, anti-racial creed that is bloodthirsty to say the least, given its concept of jihad. ISIS promotes the line or the basic doctrine that that income is most deserving which comes from the enemy after you've defeated him in battle. booty is the only morally pure income. all have a duty to jihad. make hijrah - come to the khalifah now set up by ISIS, join the expanding ummah - body of faithful, kill all non-believers ie jews, crusaders and apostates]

The Muslims today have a loud,
thundering statement, and possess heavy
boots.
They have a statement to make that will cause
the world to hear and understand the meaning
of terrorism, and boots that will trample
the idol of nationalism, destroy the idol of
democracy, and uncover its deviant nature.”

hijrah
(emigration) to the Islamic State, then
let him do so, because hijrah to the
land of Islam is obligatory.”

[they're calling on fighters from around the world to come join them in the area they've consquered in Iraq/Syria]

the world today has been divided
into two camps and two trenches, with no third camp present:

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The camp of Islam and faith, and the camp of kufr (disbelief) and hypocrisy – the camp
of the Muslims and the mujahidin everywhere, and the camp of the jews, the crusaders,
their allies, and with them the rest of the nations and religions of kufr, all being led by
America and Russia, and being mobilized by the jews.”
fuqaha’ (experts in
Islamic jurisprudence)
bay’ah
the mission of the Islamic
State is neither local nor regional,
but rather global.

[universalist, like christianity, and bent on coercing submission]

mushrikin

Indeed a man’s iman (faith)
becomes worn out within him just as
a garment becomes worn out, so ask
Allah to renew the iman in your heart.”

Ummah (nation) should strive
to be united behind a single imam (leader),

people today have
failed to understand that imamah in
religious affairs cannot be properly
established unless the people of truth
first achieve comprehensive political
imamah over the lands and the
people.

The group does not have
safe haven within a state.
It is a de facto state that
is a safe haven.

nikayah” (injury) that
focus on causing the enemy death, injury,
and damage.

The weak-hearted methodology of
irja’ is one that can never fuel the
jihad caravan on its path to Khilafah,
rather it only brings indecision and
fear, thus ruining the caravan’s ability
to persist, and naively filling the road
with obstacles that only serve the
tawaghit.

[there are many parallels in reading about ISIS between it's hard-core, principled 'extremism' and pussyfoot racial-veneered weak racialism]

hirabah (armed robbery).

[pics of them executing two hirabahs alongside the road]

the Islamic State chased the filthy Safawis
out of numerous towns and cities, forcing
them to flee all the way to Baghdad in spite
of their numbers, and the billions spent on
them by the crusaders on weapons and
training.

The first priority is to perform hijrah from wherever
you are to the Islamic State, from dārul-kufr
to dārul-Islām.

[basically, from land of disbelievers to land of faithful]

Many readers are probably asking about their obligations
towards the Khilāfah right now. Therefore
the Dābiq team wants to convey the position
of the Islamic State leadership on this important
matter.

The first priority is to perform hijrah from wherever
you are to the Islamic State, from dārul-kufr
to dārul-Islām. Rush to perform it as Mūsā
(‘alayhis-salām) rushed to his Lord, saying, {And
I hastened to You, my Lord, that You be pleased}
[Tāhā: 84]. Rush to the shade of the Islamic State
with your parents, siblings, spouses, and children.
There are homes here for you and your families.
You can be a major contributor towards the liberation
of Makkah, Madīnah, and al-Quds. Would
you not like to reach Judgment Day with these
grand deeds in your scales.

Second, if you cannot perform hijrah for
whatever extraordinary reason, then try in your location
to organize bay’āt (pledges of allegiance) to the
Khalīfah Ibrāhīm. Publicize them as much as possible.
Gather people in the masājid, Islamic centers,
and Islamic organizations, for example, and make
public announcements of bay’ah. Try to record
these bay’āt and then distribute them through all
forms of media including the Internet. It is necessary
that bay’ah becomes so common to the average
Muslim that he considers those holding back
as grossly abnormal. This effort, inshā’allah, will
encourage Islamic groups to abandon their partisanship
and also announce their bay’ah to the
Khalīfah Ibrāhīm.

If you live in a police state that will arrest you over
such bay’āt, then use means of anonymity to convey
your bay’ah to the world.

Your publicized bay’ah has two benefits. First it is
a manifestation of the Muslims’ loyalty to each
other and to their body. {And those who disbelieved
As for the massacres taking
place in Gaza against the Muslim
men, women, and children,
then the Islamic State will do
everything within its means to
continue striking down every
apostate who stands as an obstacle
on its path towards Palestine.
It is not the manner of
the Islamic State to throw empty,
dry, and hypocritical words
of condemnation and condolences
like the Arab tawāghīt
do in the UN and Arab League.
Rather, its actions speak louder
than its words and it is only
a matter of time and patience
before it reaches Palestine to
fight the barbaric jews and kill
those of them hiding behind
the gharqad trees – the trees of
the jews.


shahīd (dead jihadist, i think)
It kept to its promise and destroyed the border obstacles
that formerly separated the lands of Iraq
from Shām.

“The pillars of
kufr are four: arrogance, envy, anger, and desire”

There are countless accounts
of American soldiers executing families and raping
women under the sanctity of the US military
and Blackwater. Muslim families were killed under
the broad definition of “collateral damage,”
which the US grants itself alone the right to apply.

In his speech on “August 20, 2014,”
Obama completely avoided mention
of Steven Sotloff, again showing his
“people” that the number one interest
of the American government is the
sanctity of Israel and its allies, which
include the Zionist Peshmerga forces.
These are more important than the
lives of his citizenry.

Contemplate – may Allah have mercy upon you –
the states that existed throughout history, both
the Muslim states and the mushrik states. Were
any of them established by the emigration of poor
strangers from the East and the West, who then
gathered in an alien land of war and pledged allegiance
to an “unknown” man, in spite of the political,
economic, military, media, and intelligence
war waged by the nations of the world against
their religion, their state, and their hijrah? And in
spite of the fact that they did not have any common
“nationality,” ethnicity, language, or worldly
interests, nor did they have any prior acquaintance!
This phenomenon is something that has never occurred in human history, except in the
case of the Islamic State!

When Islam first began to
emerge it was something strange, and anyone
who embraced it and responded to Allah
and His Messenger became a stranger in
his district, his tribe, his family, and his clan.
Thus, those who responded to the da’wah of
Islam left their tribes. Rather, they were lone
individuals who emigrated from their tribes
and clans, and entered into Islam. Therefore,
they were the strangers, in reality, until Islam
had emerged, its da’wah had spread, and the
people entered into it in multitudes, such
that they were no longer strangers.

“So we warn the tribes, that any tribe or party or
assembly whose involvement and collaboration
with the crusaders and their apostate agents are
confirmed, then by He who sent Muhammad
with the truth, we will target them just as we target
the crusaders, and we will eradicate and distinguish
them, for there are only two camps: the
camp of truth and its followers, and the camp of
falsehood and its factions.

“From now on, everyone whose affiliation with
the pagan guards, police, and army is confirmed,
or his collaboration and espionage for the crusaders
is verified, then his ruling is execution,
and not only that, his house also will be destroyed
and burnt, after removal of the women
and children. This is in retribution for his treachery
towards his religion and ummah, and so that
he becomes a manifest lesson and a deterring
example”

the name of our magazine was taken from the area
named Dābiq in the northern countryside of Halab,
due to the significant role it will play during
the events of al-Malhamah al-Kubrā (The Grand
Battle) against the crusaders.

Islam is a holistic religion that is to be
approached from all sides, and defended from
all sides. If any aspect of it is abandoned or ignored,
the Shaytān and his soldiers will quickly
fill the vacuum.

Abū Hurayrah (radiyallāhu ‘anh) said that Allah’s
Messenger (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said,
“Whoever dies without taking part in a battle
and without intending to take part in a battle,
has died with a trait of hypocrisy” [Sahīh Muslim].
Therefore, abandoning jihād is a trait of hypocrisy.
So be wary of it or else it may seize you
by your heart.

My writings will testify against me
if I do not produce evidence of my innocence
of hypocrisy.

zunāh (fornicators/ adulterers)
lūtiyyah (sodomites)
 
Old November 4th, 2014 #52
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The Rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant
Who is Behind ISIS?

by PATRICK COCKBURN

With its multi-pronged assault across central and northern Iraq in the past one and a half weeks, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis) has taken over from the al-Qa’ida organisation founded by Osama bin Laden as the most powerful and effective extreme jihadi group in the world.

Isis now controls or can operate with impunity in a great stretch of territory in western Iraq and eastern Syria, making it militarily the most successful jihadi movement ever.

While its exact size is unclear, the group is thought to include thousands of fighters. The last “s” of “Isis” comes from the Arabic word “al-Sham”, meaning Levant, Syria or occasionally Damascus, depending on the circumstances.

Led since 2010 by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, also known as Abu Dua (see below), it has proved itself even more violent and sectarian than what US officials call the “core” al-Qa’ida, led by Ayman al-Zawahiri, who is based in Pakistan.

Isis is highly fanatical, killing Shia Muslims and Christians whenever possible, as well as militarily efficient and under tight direction by top leaders.

The creation of a sort of proto-Caliphate by extreme jihadis in northern Syria and Iraq is provoking fears in surrounding countries such as Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey that they will become targets of battle-hardened Sunni fighters.

The Isis tactic is to make a surprise attack, inflict maximum casualties and spread fear before withdrawing without suffering heavy losses. Last Friday they attacked Mosul, where their power is already strong enough to tax local businesses, from family groceries to mobile phone and construction companies. Some 200 people were killed in the fighting, according to local hospitals, though the government gives a figure of 59 dead, 21 of them policemen and 38 insurgents.

Isis specialises in using militarily untrained foreign volunteers as suicide bombers either moving on foot wearing suicide vests, or driving vehicles packed with explosives. Often more than one suicide bomber is used, as happened when a vehicle exploded at the headquarters of a Kurdish party, the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan in the town of Jalawla in the divided and much fought-over province of Diyala, north-east of Baghdad. In the confusion caused by the blast, a second bomber on foot slipped into the office and blew himself up, killing some 18 people, including a senior police officer.

The swift rise of Isis since Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi became its leader has come because the uprising of the Sunni in Syria in 2011 led the Iraqi Sunni to protest about their political and economic marginalisation since the fall of Saddam Hussein. Peaceful demonstrations from the end of 2012 won few concessions, with Iraq’s Shia-dominated government convinced that the protesters wanted not reform but a revolution returning their community to power. The five or six million Iraqi Sunni became more alienated and sympathetic towards armed action by Isis.

Isis launched a well-planned campaign last year including a successful assault on Abu Ghraib prison last summer to free leaders and experienced fighters. This January, they took over Fallujah, 40 miles west of Baghdad, and have held it ever since in the face of artillery and air attack. The military sophistication of Isis in Iraq is much greater than al-Qa’ida, the organisation out of which it grew, which reached the peak of its success in 2006-07 before the Americans turned many of the Sunni tribes against it.

Isis has the great advantage of being able to operate on both sides of the Syrian-Iraq border, though in Syria it is engaged in an intra-jihadi civil war with Jabhat al-Nusra, Ahrar al-Sham and other groups. But Isis controls Raqqa, the only provincial capital taken by the opposition, and much of eastern Syria outside enclaves held by the Kurds close to the Turkish border.

Isis is today a little more circumspect in killing all who work for the government including rubbish collectors, something that alienated the Sunni population previously. But horrifically violent, though professionally made propaganda videos show Isis forcing families with sons in the Iraqi army to dig their own graves before they are shot. The message is that their enemies can expect no mercy.

Who is Isis leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?

In the space of a year he has become the most powerful jihadi leader in the world, and last week his forces captured Mosul, the northern capital of Iraq. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, also known as Abu Dua, the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis) has suddenly emerged as a figure who is shaping the future of Iraq, Syria and the wider Middle East.

He began to appear from the shadows in the summer of 2010 when he became leader of al-Qa’ida in Iraq (AQI) after its former leaders were killed in an attack by US and Iraqi troops. AQI was at a low point in its fortunes, as the Sunni rebellion, in which it had once played a leading role, was collapsing. It was revived by the revolt of the Sunni in Syria in 2011 and, over the next three years by a series of carefully planned campaigns in both Iraq and Syria. How far al-Baghdadi is directly responsible for the military strategy and tactics of Isis, once called AQI, is uncertain: former Iraqi army and intelligence officers from the Saddam era are said to play a crucial role, but are under al-Baghdadi’s overall leadership.

There are disputes over his career depending on whether the source is Isis itself, US or Iraqi intelligence but the overall picture appears fairly clear. He was born in Samarra, a largely Sunni city north of Baghdad, in 1971 and is well educated. With black hair and brown eyes, a picture of al-Baghdadi taken when he was a prisoner of the Americans in Bocca Camp in southern Iraq between 2005 and 2009, makes him look like any Iraqi man in his thirties.

His real name is believed to be Awwad Ibrahim Ali al-Badri al-Samarrai, who has degrees in Islamic Studies, including poetry, history and genealogy, from the Islamic University of Baghdad. He may have been an Islamic militant under Saddam as a preacher in Diyala province, to the north east of Baghdad, where, after the US invasion of 2003, he had his own armed group. Insurgent movements have a strong motive for giving out misleading information about their command structure and leadership, but it appears al-Baghdadi spent five years as prisoner of the Americans.

After the old AQI leadership was killed in April 2010, al-Baghdadi took over and AQI became increasingly well organised, even issuing detailed annual reports over the last two years, itemising its operations in each Iraqi province. Recalling the fate of his predecessors as AQI leader, he insisted on extreme secrecy, so few people knew where he was. AQI prisoners either say they have never met him or, when they did, that he was wearing a mask.

Taking advantage of the Syrian civil war, al-Baghdadi sent experienced fighters and funds to Syria to set up Jabhat al-Nusra as al-Qa’ida’s affiliate in Syria. He split from it last year, but remains in control of a great swathe of territory in northern Syria and Iraq. Against fragmented and dysfunctional opposition, he is moving fast towards establishing himself as Emir of a new Islamic state.

PATRICK COCKBURN is the author of Muqtada: Muqtada Al-Sadr, the Shia Revival, and the Struggle for Iraq.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/...s-behind-isis/
 
Old November 4th, 2014 #53
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Who is behind ISIS?
Yvonne Ridley
Saturday, 23 August 2014

Yvonne Ridley'Make no mistake, ISIS's domination of Iraq is nothing short of breath-taking; it has achieved in a matter of weeks what the US and its allies failed to do in 10 years of occupation.'I have no idea where the Islamic State/ISIS/ISIL or whatever name it uses came from, and I'm just as baffled by the roots of its violent ideology. While I never pretend to speak for the diverse community of Muslims living in Britain today, I reckon my views on this will be echoed by the majority who have watched with growing concern the unprecedented rise of this group.

However, just as unprecedented is the childish invective being spewed out by Islamophobes, racists and so-called terrorism experts encouraged by some sections of the British media. They have not helped at all.

While I've blocked most of the jack-booted trolls who patrol Twitterland demanding that anyone who is or even looks like a Muslim should launch an immediate protest march against ISIS, I'm amazed that similar rhetoric is being pushed by elements of the media.

There are many reasons why I've not spoken out against ISIS. For a start, I'm not sure who it is, where it came from or how it is funded. I've not seen such a militarily- and strategically-savvy fighting force emerge in the Middle East before, other than the highly disciplined and much feared Hezbollah. I, like many others, want to know a little bit more about ISIS before making public comments.

Secondly, why should I organise a march against ISIS? I am not responsible for its actions, just as my Jewish friends are not responsible – and nor should they be - for the actions of that other group of violent psychos in the Middle East, the Israeli military. While ISIS enforcers wield head- and limb-chopping knives, Israel drops bombs called Daisy Cutters which also decapitate and maim anyone caught in the fallout.

Thirdly, my silence over ISIS does not mean that I support the group even if some fools take my silence as a sign that I do. Only when I ask some male tweeters to apologise on behalf of rapists, on the grounds that every rapist is a man so they must all be somehow culpable, does the penny drop; occasionally I'll get a muffled apology.

And finally, even if I jumped up and down and declared that "ISIS is the scum of the earth", exactly what would that achieve anyway? I hardly think its leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi is going to lose any sleep over Yvonne Ridley's views.

There are few certainties in the chaos that is now the Middle East. However, what I can say with authority is that the world would never have heard of ISIS had widow-makers George W Bush and Tony Blair not launched their illegal war in Iraq in 2003. The world would also never have seen ISIS develop into the full blown monster that it is if the West had, at the very least, introduced a no-fly zone in Syria after the chemical weapons were unleashed on civilians by Bashar Al-Assad's forces exactly a year ago this week.

The question to ask is this: Who really benefits from the unfolding ISIS spectacle? The big winners are sitting within the Assad regime. It is that regime which was, by the way, suspected of capturing US journalist James Foley who went missing in north-west Syria on 12 November 2012. How on earth did he slip out of the Syrian government's hands into those of the murderous head-chopping maniacs of ISIS?

The former head of the British Army says that the West should sit down and negotiate with Assad to get rid of ISIS, but what if ISIS was created by Assad and his ally Iran, which has members of the elite Republican Guard in parts of Syria?

As crazy as it sounds, that would explain why Nouri Al-Maliki's Iraqi army fell away so easily in the face of ISIS leaving behind a massive arsenal of weapons for the militia to use. It is virtually inconceivable for a trained fighting force to leave all of its kit behind before doing a runner, just as it's virtually inconceivable that a crack fighting force like ISIS could emerge from a rag tag bunch of ill-disciplined rebel fighters buoyed-up by disaffected youngsters from Europe and beyond.

Make no mistake, ISIS's domination of Iraq is nothing short of breath-taking; it has achieved in a matter of weeks what the US and its allies failed to do in 10 years of occupation. This hasn't happened by accident; military victories on this scale take strategic planning and inside help. So who, exactly, is behind ISIS?

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/ar...is-behind-isis
 
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Thousands of their Twitter followers installed an app – called the Dawn of Glad Tidings – that allows Isis to use their accounts to send out centrally written updates. Released simultaneously, the messages swamp social media, giving Isis a far larger online reach than their own accounts would otherwise allow. The Dawn app pumps out news of Isis advances, gory images, or frightening videos like Swords IV – creating the impression of a rampant and unstoppable force.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...operation-iraq
 
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In the areas under its rule, ISIS has been denounced by Syrians as a new regime that shows no tolerance and no mercy for dissidents and minorities. Its strict interpretation of Islam revives corporal punishment. Its violence is so brutal that even al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri disowned the group. But M. rejects these accusations.

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"You look only at the executions. But every war has its executions, its traitors, its spies. We set up soup kitchens, we rebuilt schools, hospitals, we restored water and electricity, we paid for food and fuel. While the UN wasn't even able to deliver humanitarian aid, we were vaccinating children against polio. It's just that some actions are more visible than others. For every thief we punish, you punish a hundred children with your indifference."
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M., embodying the ISIS ideology, railed against the aspirations for democracy in the Arab world.

"Look at Egypt. Look at the way it ended for Muslims who cast their vote for [deposed President] Mohammed Morsi and believed in your democracy, in your lies. Democracy doesn't exist. Do you think you are free? The West is ruled by banks, not by parliaments, and you know that. You know that you're just a pawn, except you have no courage. You think of yourself, your job, your house … because you know you have no power. But fortunately, the jihad has started. Islam will get to you and bring you freedom."
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/orig...#ixzz3IA7CMdEH
 
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ISIS: What It Means to Whites
 
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While with ISIS, I noticed that the field captains and commanders spoke fluent Turkish. I rarely heard them speak in Arabic. ISIS commanders in Raqqa openly talked about the best foreign jihadists crossing into Syria from Turkey.

http://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/14/i...te-282431.html
 
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really excellent hour with Susan Lindauer

- us sanctions are the real WMD, killed 1.5 or 2m iraqis
- ISIS has accessed report saying muslims could defeat israel in ten years, but ISIS thinks 72 months. first they take out assad, then israel
- not only the Samson Option is there, with Israel threatening to blow up all European capitals if they're going down, but she has heard from PEOPLE IN DOD that Israel has american nuke codes/knows how to override them against american will and would use them if need be
- confirms that 9/11 was known ahead of time, and that buildings were controlled demolitions with thermite and with nuke in basement
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-141003.php
 
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