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For the sake of the argument let's say that what Breivik did was, indeed, effectively, useless. It did not hurt, let alone stop the system. However, can it be argued that it at least had a symbolic value? Why, maybe it hasn't touched the system, but maybe it has touched the populace and even if not attaining a good result against the system, the message therein resonated within the people. How about that? And if you are wondering "what message", well, the message that the enemies of White racialism and the concept of Volksgemeinschaft aren't invincible and, despite all the effort put into demonizing those who would even think of hurting them on any level, they can be touched and hurt. In your sociological knowledge I think you must be clearly aware that the people find a great deal of new morale when they discover that their enemy is not invincible as they thought. Quote:
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If that is so then I think you're contradicting yourself, because first you said it's because they're young that they're so passionate, but then you say it's because they have doubts. Is that what you are saying (pardon the potential straw-man)? Quote:
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For the first time in human history we have access to mass communication. And it's also the first time in human history where such a phenomenon has taken hold. I don't think you should take this lightly. Humans aren't accostumed to that, so they will, of course, be mesmerized, so to speak, by constant efforts to push them into a certain direction from said mass communication mediums. We haven't really had a chance of seeing what would happen if we were to spread a racialist message through mass media, because that was so quickly taken over by our enemies. As people on this forum have said, the first thing you take over is the media (particularly TV). After that all those you mentioned, those in good positions, will follow suit. The question now being "how do we accomplish this"? Quote:
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Lets be honest here chaps.
If Breivik had walked into some conference and literally exterminated a special interest group or wiped out a number of particular politicians, people wouldn't be reacting to this issue the way they are. With confusion and horror. If pro-multiculturalist law makers had been targeted and destroyed by a self motivated political soldier, that would have sent a very clear message throughout Europe. That governments need to start fearing revolt from their own respective nations because their policies are making them real enemies. Had Breivik done such a thing, he could quite easily call himself a 'nationalist revolutionary' acting in 'defence of his nation' without running into serious risk of his actions contradicting his ideas. But that isn't what he did. He set off a bomb in public then shot up a group of kids leaving a lot of people horrified and confused. Even nationalists are strongly confused by this guys actions. I'm not sure if the guy was crazy or not, but if his objective was to inspire people, then I would say he mostly failed. If anything Breivik could be used as an excuse for governments to launch more surprise investigations on nationalists and critics in general. |
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Looks like the brains trust has arrived.
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And even if they do what will they most likely find? Scared and weak little people who don't even pose a threat to themselves let alone the general public; whose only form of political expression comes via the anonymity of the internet. Breivik has already demonstrated that WNists- and I mean REAL WNists - not the tourists and internet hobbyists - are serious about what is happening to their race and nation.
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I see this discussion is in the more than capable hands of Hunter, Sam Fisher and The White Death, among others. Carry on, patriots!
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As among other things I explained earlier, people here specifically (posters) have name-dropped one recommended book after the other on strategies for our race, containing detailed accounts of our history of what works and what not works. However, by each week here I feel that the garden variety WN has no inkling of what is actually said, only perveying it through the same old puritan cowboy-lense available at their cerebral disposal. This has troubled me for a long time and my concern is certainly not lifting as it is. Mind you, I'm not referencing this with you in mind Simo, it's a general penny or dime of thought that I regarded prudent to share with you. Quote:
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It's a scaling of the long steps, not a quick jump Simo. The interent has actually not seen much new to that end except of the intensity and daily quantity of information, also that now there are more outlets outside of 'their' control. Quote:
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Strategically, those White Nationalists who choose the violent route need to have a higher objective than simply proving to themselves and others that they are 'serious' and instead think in terms of achieving complete victory of their enemies. People of that mindset should make their opening moves very carefully, because such things dictate the course of the ensuing violence, unless of course their first move is decisive. Simply scaring, but not destroying these special interest groups and governments will only give them the opportunity to dig in deeper, and improve their security. It's not so much that I think that sending a message is a stupid strategy, it can be a good strategy, but what message did Breivik actually send? |
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Breivik slams court, says trial has centered too much on his mental state
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"We request that he is transferred to compulsory psychiatric care," prosecutor Svein Holden told the court in closing arguments. Though there was inconclusive evidence that Breivik was psychotic during the July 22 attacks, there were enough doubts about his sanity that he cannot be sentenced to prison under Norwegian law, Holden said. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1615120.html |
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How long can they hold him in the mental hospital. Will that effect his sentincing in a real world trial?
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They can hold him forever until he dies. I think it would be guilty, by reasons of insanity. The system, will not and it cannot allow him any 'sanity sentence'. To allow him such a sentence and send him to prison for the full 21 years, would justify his actions. This they cannot allow. They must nullify his mission, saying he is a few bricks short of a full load, and ship him off to the asylum...forever.
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Breivik on the Jews and National Socialism in a letter to a Russian prisoner.
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Yeah, disloyal jews make up 80% and the other 20%, the "good" jews, have allowed Breivik into their innermost sanctum, and that's why he understands 20% of jews can be trusted. Unfortunately, he's much more intelligent than the average American White, in that he understands that at least a majority of jews are disloyal to their host country. American Whites don't allow themselves to even consider such things. That would be racism. Breivik is for the jews struggle against moslems because he sees that jews had the right to steal their land, and now they have the right to kill and oppress the moslems who remain on their stolen territories, but of course, he is an antisemite, because even calling out one member of the hive makes you an antisemite, let alone 80% of the kike SOBs.
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Not as long as he has a "Christian" mindset.
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American Whites stole their land from the Native Americans. What the fuck are you going on about? |
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Apparently, you're unaware of the Ice Age era evidence recently discovered in North America which proves White Caucasions were here long before the Indians, something you won't hear mentioned on the televitz. Unfortunately, our White ancestors were exterminated by those Indians. When Whites finally returned, we paid them back. We here at VNN are not interested in left-wing, anti-White, jew promoted, propaganda. |
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