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TELEGONY

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Telegony is the name given to the hypothesis that offspring can inherit characteristics from a previous mate of the mother. Breeders call this "throwing back" and physiologists call it "infection of the germ". The idea here is that the entire female's ovum apparatus is affected by the sperm, and hormones, which are injected by the male. There is an absorption factor here and absorption of many substances through ostensible membrane barriers is common knowledge. Otherwise the market for Ben Gay, beauty pastes, cellulite creams, and nicotine patches would simply be non existent.

I have mentioned earlier that Africans over the centuries have noted that when a wildebeest bull (genus Connochaetes) mates with a domestic cow (genus Bos), the cow is rendered sterile and is subsequently killed by the herders.

I have observed one example relative to a White colleague who married a White woman with mulatto children, where his children had a negro taint to their looks and behavior. Coincidence or what, I do not know, but years ago while still earning a living as a machinist, I was familiar with another case where George P.'s kids, from a similar situation, also appeared somewhat negro.

It has been often recorded that mares (Equus caballus, horse) who had previously mated with zebras (Equus grevyi), and subsequently mated with their own kind, often had foals with stripes on their legs. This was noted by people such as Charles Darwin, L. Agassiz, W.B. Carpenter and G.J. Romanes. Quite naturally, other reasons were given for those observations and many people on the experimental end claim they cannot find any evidence in their results, for telegony.

The doctrine of "infection" is ancient and widespread, and one might wonder if observation did not reinforce, or affirm, then why the tenacity of such a belief over the centuries? It would certainly be to any breeder's benefit to believe the contrary -- that their mares are not contaminated by previous mating. Whatever the views of stock owners in the past, it is clearly evident that all of the English and Continental breeders of the period 1700-1920, were fully satisfied that it was truth, and acted accordingly. The veterinarian which tended to my grandfather's live stock held similar views and grandfather once related that a stray scrub bull once 'ruined' his prize Holstein, Mary Lou. It remains difficult for me to believe that telegony is made from the same fabric as groundless gossip.

Dog breeders, especially, are generally quite firm in their belief in telegony and this is in evidence even as I write.

Telegony -- true or false? As with all schools of thought, there are opposing views and the dispute arises since science, contrary to popular opinion, does not know everything. This clearly is demonstrated in the changing view of the atom and in nearly all aspects of nutrition. Once vitamin C was isolated, the belief was that it could be given in tablet form to produce the same effects as eating natural foods containing it. This view, now archaic, has been proved false and only persists due to the profits engendered by the promotion of such a view. We are now back to natural foods which is another enduring belief of the past many centuries. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing and one only has to study the views concerning the "harmless" radiation of the first atomic explosions. (See the video Atomic Cafe.) At that time, the "experts knew the truth" and they certainly let we gullible goyim know that they did. The years proved them wrong to the sorrow of thousands. If the Army had believed that the radiation was extremely dangerous, then I am sure the whole atomic explosion business would have taken an entirely different path. What other sacred cows will be demolished in the future? The number will certainly be quite large.

Telegony -- truth or fiction? Many of the practical people who do work with livestock and breeding, generally accept it as fact. The myopic microscope users, and technocrats who love to nit-pick over trivia, say there is no evidence to support such a belief. It always makes more sense to err on the side of caution. If telegony is only a spurious vapor then it remains a vacuous proposition when applied, for it will produce no ill effects. However, if there is substance to telegony, than one invites disaster if he believes it to be false. If I assume incorrectly that the salt-looking substance in the shaker is potassium cyanide, and I toss it out, then what did I lose if it really were table salt?

I bring to your attention that all dispute over telegony deals entirely with the offspring and not one thing is mentioned of any possible effect upon the female. I find it very hard to believe that a White female's delicate sexual apparatus, complete with glands, ova, and other vitals, could remain unaffected by continual bombardment of the biological discharges of Black men which, incidentally, are chemically distinct from those of a White man. There is a whole lot more to the differences of blood, and semen, than mere DNA. We need no DNA to tell one blood from another, or one ejaculate from another.

I am writing briefly on this topic due to the number of email questions I have received. I am sure that those asking were less interested in what happens to Herefords or Spaniels, than they do about women who practice race-mixing. I, like Eric, have yet to meet one Black woman who provides sex appeal. Physically, each and every attribute I seek in a female is absent in the Black woman. A statue, or porno photo, while resembling female, simply holds no appeal either. I find nothing in Black people that would invite my friendship, and attraction between these two species seems preposterous to me. But then again, I never understood John Cromwell who was frequently spied mounting Mr. Betzhold's heifers, or Dr. Wade's daughter who was observed more than once playing bitch to her Collie..

Very few people seek truth. What they seek is affirmation of their held views -- as if they weren't sure of them. You cannot ever prove anything to anyone unless they are willing to accept your argument. That is a rare occurrence. Even if you ask a person what it will take to prove something to them, most deceive themselves by offering something such as, "If it's signed by Herr Professor Doctor Heinz Gerstenberg." If you happen to obtain such a document and show it to your antagonist, I'll bet that he will find some way to reject it, for that is the way of bone-headed people. They want to argue, not learn. The argument is a mere contest to see who "wins". Debates are always ego trips.

We White men often like to show the downside of race-mixing, of which evidence abounds. Let's assume that there are no "side effects" and that Matilda views sex is a neutral thing whether the object is Aids Johnson or Bush's pet goat. The question is then: Why do it? Have all the White males vanished? Or is there some dark reason like a hatred for your own kind? Whatever the reason, all life strives to reproduce its own kind. Black people and White people are not the same kind, for "kind" means kin, and kin are of the same blood, that is, they have a common ancestor. Pray tell, who is the common ancestor of Robert Mugabe and George Washington?

Since I have no personal interest in filling any available orifice, I do not concern myself with telegony, AIDS, or syphilis, one way or the other. As I intend to rob no banks, I have no interest in what penalty the law provides.

Believe what you will.

I know that many who read this will endeavor to research the matter further. Be advised that since the judeo-communist military victory of 1945, "history" is being rewritten to fit the goals of World ZOG. I personally take with 6 grains of salt, any so-called reference which was printed after 1930. The Encyclopedia Britannica is a good example. Once a standard of reference, the purchase by jewish interests in the 1920s, has resulted is a downgrading, and revision, of previous topics. I again repeat that one should apply his own god-given powers of observation and logic, in preference to something written by others, including myself. Train to be of independent thought. That's a good way to reduce your number of friends. You'll be better for it.

Just because it is new, doesn't mean it is correct. Just because it is old, doesn't mean it should be dismissed.


Lanz von Liebenfels(aka Adolf Lanz), someone who disqualified Madame Blavatsky, can
be considered influential to A. Hitler's anthroposophical perceptions.

One of his most astounding believes is the development of apes posterior to the development of humans: human-like monkeys as a result of animal-fucking humans.
 
Old July 14th, 2007 #2
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i mentioned this topic the other day, and didn't know the correct spelling due to it's absence from modern reference books.

personally, i believe this phenomenon to be true.
10 years ago, my friend had an older sister (polish) who gave birth to 3 kids by a nigger. however, the nigger in question went to jail, and while he was locked up, she cheated on him with a white guy with blonde hair. 9 months later the child was born, appearing to be white w/ blonde hair, however, as the child got older his nose flattened, and skin became a grayish-brown color, but he retained his blonde hair, and green eyes.
definately, a strange sight to behold.
the nigger ended up staying with her, because she got welfare, and he didn't like working, and they had 4 more children after that.
this is why i always refer to nigger lovers as "damaged goods"
 
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i mentioned this topic the other day, and didn't know the correct spelling due to it's absence from modern reference books.

personally, i believe this phenomenon to be true.

10 years ago, my friend had an older sister (polish) who gave birth to 3 kids by a nigger. however, the nigger in question went to jail, and while he was locked up, she cheated on him with a white guy with blonde hair. 9 months later the child was born, appearing to be white w/ blonde hair, however, as the child got older his nose flattened, and skin became a grayish-brown color, but he retained his blonde hair, and green eyes.
definately, a strange sight to behold.
the nigger ended up staying with her, because she got welfare, and he didn't like working, and they had 4 more children after that.
this is why i always refer to nigger lovers as "damaged goods"
I agree with you, many cattlemen and livestock breeders believe it as well. I've witnessed a similar event where a Nordic mudshark cheated on Jamal with a White man, and the offspring (in this particular case she had twins) had blonde hair and sapphire blue eyes, but the hair became noticeably negroid texture and the features became negroid with age, particularly as the child approached adolescence.
 
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you dont change your DNA through sex...

ask any geneticist

oh wait they're jewish.. they are all wrong.. anyone who is a scientist and says anything a WN disagrees with is a jew .. i should listen to people who have no backround in biology instead
 
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you dont change your DNA through sex...

ask any geneticist

oh wait they're jewish.. they are all wrong.. anyone who is a scientist and says anything a WN disagrees with is a jew .. i should listen to people who have no backround in biology instead
You said it buster: ask wikipeda, or an "expert" and you will find hardly any :[] or (in his pants sh*****g) goyim...

among them
 
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you dont change your DNA through sex...

ask any geneticist

oh wait they're jewish.. they are all wrong.. anyone who is a scientist and says anything a WN disagrees with is a jew .. i should listen to people who have no backround in biology instead
Most modern geneticists are like modern engineers, who design machines by committee, and wouldn't know one end of a screw-driver from the other. They are long on theory and short on practical experience.
 
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So if telegony were true, if a woman had sex with 50 people in her life and then had a child, the child would have the traits of 51 people? Hmm, I should look up my old girlfriends from high school, some of their kids may look just like me!

Sorry, telegony is about as real as a stork bringing babies.
 
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So if telegony were true, if a woman had sex with 50 people in her life and then had a child, the child would have the traits of 51 people? Hmm, I should look up my old girlfriends from high school, some of their kids may look just like me!

Sorry, telegony is about as real as a stork bringing babies.
Would you please study the source before blabbering some santa claus stupidity about a subject, whose far reaching consequences are unfathomable.
Thank you!
 
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Telegony is the theory of pre-paternal influence on offspring. That is, that a previous male mate may pass characteristics to an offspring conceived by the same mother, but a different father. No evidence has been furnished to support the theory, but never the less, it was a popular belief amongst animal breeders.
 
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How some of our Russian friends ("experts") see it:

IUS PRIMAE NOCTIS

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The example of telegony with humans given by Le Dantec sound somewhat incredible. He wrote: “Spencer tells that he learnt from Professor Flint that as a result of a research conducted in America it turned out that a white woman who once had a sexual intercourse with a black man would in the future have babies looking a little bit like Afro-Americans even if she marries a white man and he would be her only sexual partner.”

The above hypotheses required experimental application for researchers to understand if it actually existed or not. They started interbreeding horses first with zebras and then with horses and studied peculiarities of their offspring. Researchers also attempted to see telegony by interbreeding rabbits, guinea-pigs, mice and flies. But they failed to witness anything that could be called telegony. As no experimental confirmation of the hypothesis could be obtained it was declared quasi-biological and was never mentioned in the biological society since that moment.

In a word, the notion ‘telegony’ was never used or applied until the end of the 20th century.

It was in the end of the 20th century in Russia’s Orthodox circles that the idea of telegony sprang up again. In 2004, a book “Virginity and telegony. The Orthodox church and modern science of genetic inversions” came out.

This book goes even further than the previous publications pertaining to telegony. Earlier, it was said that previous copulations will have an effect upon the subsequent ones. But the authors of the new book insist that
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only a woman’s first sexual partner will have a tremendous impact upon all babies that the woman may have with other men.
The book says that a man who deflowers a woman becomes some kind of a genetic father of her prospective children.


Medportal

Translated by Maria Gousseva
Pravda.ru
To doubt, that the first sexual contact, especially the defloration, has a tremendous impact on any
woman, is prove enough for the mental illnes of the writers of this translated article.
 
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TELEGONY -- by Sir Robert the Bruce of Frenz --

Telegony is the name given to the hypothesis that offspring can inherit characteristics from a previous mate of the mother. Breeders call this "throwing back" and physiologists call it "infection of the germ". The idea here is that the entire female's ovum apparatus is affected by the sperm, and hormones, which are injected by the male. There is an absorption factor here and absorption of many substances through ostensible membrane barriers is common knowledge. Otherwise the market for Ben Gay, beauty pastes, cellulite creams, and nicotine patches would simply be non existent.

I have mentioned earlier that Africans over the centuries have noted that when a wildebeest bull (genus Connochaetes) mates with a domestic cow (genus Bos), the cow is rendered sterile and is subsequently killed by the herders.
I have observed one example relative to a White colleague who married a White woman with mulatto children, where his children had a negro taint to their looks and behavior. Coincidence or what, I do not know, but years ago while still earning a living as a machinist, I was familiar with another case where George P.'s kids, from a similar situation, also appeared somewhat negro.
It has been often recorded that mares (Equus caballus, horse) who had previously mated with zebras (Equus grevyi), and subsequently mated with their own kind, often had foals with stripes on their legs. This was noted by people such as Charles Darwin, L. Agassiz, W.B. Carpenter and G.J. Romanes. Quite naturally, other reasons were given for those observations and many people on the experimental end claim they cannot find any evidence in their results, for telegony.
The doctrine of "infection" is ancient and widespread, and one might wonder if observation did not reinforce, or affirm, then why the tenacity of such a belief over the centuries? It would certainly be to any breeder's benefit to believe the contrary -- that their mares are not contaminated by previous mating. Whatever the views of stock owners in the past, it is clearly evident that all of the English and Continental breeders of the period 1700-1920, were fully satisfied that it was truth, and acted accordingly. The veterinarian which tended to my grandfather's live stock held similar views and grandfather once related that a stray scrub bull once 'ruined' his prize Holstein, Mary Lou. It remains difficult for me to believe that telegony is made from the same fabric as groundless gossip.
[Dog breeders, especially, are generally quite firm in their belief in telegony and this is in evidence even as I write. [/SIZE]
Telegony -- true or false? As with all schools of thought, there are opposing views and the dispute arises since science, contrary to popular opinion, does not know everything. This clearly is demonstrated in the changing view of the atom and in nearly all aspects of nutrition. Once vitamin C was isolated, the belief was that it could be given in tablet form to produce the same effects as eating natural foods containing it. This view, now archaic, has been proved false and only persists due to the profits engendered by the promotion of such a view. We are now back to natural foods which is another enduring belief of the past many centuries. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing and one only has to study the views concerning the "harmless" radiation of the first atomic explosions. (See the video Atomic Cafe.) At that time, the "experts knew the truth" and they certainly let we gullible goyim know that they did. The years proved them wrong to the sorrow of thousands. If the Army had believed that the radiation was extremely dangerous, then I am sure the whole atomic explosion business would have taken an entirely different path. What other sacred cows will be demolished in the future? The number will certainly be quite large.
Telegony -- truth or fiction? Many of the practical people who do work with livestock and breeding, generally accept it as fact. The myopic microscope users, and technocrats who love to nit-pick over trivia, say there is no evidence to support such a belief. It always makes more sense to err on the side of caution. If telegony is only a spurious vapor then it remains a vacuous proposition when applied, for it will produce no ill effects. However, if there is substance to telegony, than one invites disaster if he believes it to be false. If I assume incorrectly that the salt-looking substance in the shaker is potassium cyanide, and I toss it out, then what did I lose if it really were table salt?
I bring to your attention that all dispute over telegony deals entirely with the offspring and not one thing is mentioned of any possible effect upon the female. I find it very hard to believe that a White female's delicate sexual apparatus, complete with glands, ova, and other vitals, could remain unaffected by continual bombardment of the biological discharges of Black men which, incidentally, are chemically distinct from those of a White man. There is a whole lot more to the differences of blood, and semen, than mere DNA. We need no DNA to tell one blood from another, or one ejaculate from another.
I am writing briefly on this topic due to the number of email questions I have received. I am sure that those asking were less interested in what happens to Herefords or Spaniels, than they do about women who practice race-mixing.
Very few people seek truth. What they seek is affirmation of their held views -- as if they weren't sure of them. You cannot ever prove anything to anyone unless they are willing to accept your argument. That is a rare occurrence. Even if you ask a person what it will take to prove something to them, most deceive themselves by offering something such as, "If it's signed by Herr Professor Doctor Heinz Gerstenberg." If you happen to obtain such a document and show it to your antagonist, I'll bet that he will find some way to reject it, for that is the way of bone-headed people. They want to argue, not learn. The argument is a mere contest to see who "wins". Debates are always ego trips.
We White men often like to show the downside of race-mixing, of which evidence abounds. Let's assume that there are no "side effects" and that Matilda views sex is a neutral thing whether the object is Aids Johnson or Bush's pet goat. Have all the White males vanished? Or is there some dark reason like a hatred for your own kind? Whatever the reason, all life strives to reproduce its own kind. Black people and White people are not the same kind, for "kind" means kin, and kin are of the same blood, that is, they have a common ancestor. Pray tell, who is the common ancestor of Robert Mugabe and George Washington?
Since I have no personal interest in filling any available orifice, I do not concern myself with telegony, AIDS, or syphilis, one way or the other. As I intend to rob no banks, I have no interest in what penalty the law provides.
[SIZE=4]Believe what you will.
I know that many who read this will endeavor to research the matter further. Be advised that since the jewdeo-communist military victory of 1945, "history" is being rewritten to fit the goals of World ZOG. I personally take with 6 grains of salt, any so-called reference which was printed after 1930. The Encyclopedia Britannica is a good example. Once a standard of reference, the purchase by jew interests in the 1920s, has resulted is a downgrading, and revision, of previous topics. I again repeat that one should apply his own god-given powers of observation and logic, in preference to something written by others, including myself. Train to be of independent thought. That's a good way to reduce your number of friends. You'll be better for it.
Just because it is new, doesn't mean it is incorrect.
Just because it is old, doesn't mean it should be dismissed.
 
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Sir Robert the Bruce of Frenz ???

Robert Frenz, author of this article about telegony, (who, as far as I know, is no longer with us) was a great guy!
Not only helped me his personal advice troughout one of his letters to me, in which he encouraged me to continue standing up to the :[] in order to not "short cut" myself.
The dayly reads in FAEM (First amendment exercise machine) made me
appreciate his thoughts enormously.

The reason I added the Russian article should be clear to all of us:
to compare his enlightening thoughts with the incredible
garbage,that the Russian "EXPERTS" had to offer. Just compare!
I'm sure Robert would forgive me for having inadvertently omitted his last name, when I proposed to dicuss this theme and used his article.
 
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you dont change your DNA through sex...

ask any geneticist

oh wait they're jewish.. they are all wrong.. anyone who is a scientist and says anything a WN disagrees with is a jew .. i should listen to people who have no backround in biology instead

exactly, where you all go wrong is that merely having a man's seed shot between her legs and she absorbs genetic material. This is total b.s., cause for
#1,
sperm either fertilize an egg or die!
#2,
how many of your wives and mothers of your children were virgins? and, can you prove they were virgins casue they were proabaly the biggest sluts in town
#3,
does that mean i should find every ex-partner my wife has ever had and sue them to help with child support?


This whole theory that if a woman has sex with a nonwhite then shes somehow tainted in the physical sense i find totaly absurd. Yes, she is likely tainted with STDs, yes for all you religous people, her souls tainted with another sort of 'soul'.

But in theory you could rape a niggerlover and force her to have white babies, (there now i advoce rape can i be baned please?)


Now what I do believe in casue yes, i too have seen it, in people and in animals is that by carrying a child a mother can absorb some genetic material from the baby inside her womb, and while i think the genetics absorbed tend to be minor in most cases it is possible i do believe for traits such as brillo-hair or flat-nose to be passed on in this manner.

Besides, if this theory of telegony that by merely having intercourse is true, then half of are gonna have yerselves niggerbabies, hahahahaha, good news for alex linder yes all those pieces of shit he posted when he want to show us his favorite fetish can STILL have white babies. thank god i didnt have a daughter when alex posted the porn or i woulda had no choice but go hunting and make him the game! :[] suck my ass it smells!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegony_(pregnancy)
 
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Let's face it:

This VNN is a mirror of diversity Jew Ass A: this :[]pedia link says it all.
If you are not into Judaism then you are at least a pedophile...or have been abused for that matter.

Vaarg wants us to consult an "expert" about everything,
Darren wants us to read wikipedophilia
 
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no. i think someone who has backround in genetics and biology is more knowedgeable on the subject than people who graduate WN Online college.

what credentials do you have to speak about this? because you "think" it might be true? because it fits our agenda better? that doesnt make it true.

why should anyone take your word over someone who has more credentials in it?

"because they are all jewz and i am right!!"... no
 
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does that mean i should find every ex-partner my wife has ever had and sue them to help with child support?

Not a bad idea. I suggest, however, that you limit yourself to the guy,whose genetic strength made your baby look like him. Make him pay, by all means!


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This whole theory that if a woman has sex with a nonwhite then shes somehow tainted in the physical sense i find totaly absurd. Yes, she is likely tainted with STDs, yes for all you religous people, her souls tainted with another sort of 'soul'.
You don't have to be "religious" in order to be respectable.



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But in theory you could rape a niggerlover and force her to have white babies, (there now i advoce rape can i be baned please?)
To be able to indulge in that kind of phantasy tells us something about you.
 
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what credentials do you have to speak about this? because you "think" it might be true? because it fits our agenda better? that doesnt make it true.
What credentials do Germar Rudolph, Fred Leuchter etc. have, to talk
about things, that should not be discussed?


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why should anyone take your word over someone who has more credentials in it?

"because they are all jewz and i am right!!"... no
This telegony thing is a hot iron and the only thing, " i am right" about is Robert
Frenz' trustworthiness and honesty.

I have not presented one iota of my own study of the subject for obvious reasons.
 
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so how many of you are 'victims' of telegony? come on, fess up to yer nigger genese from the uterus!
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Let's face it:

This VNN is a mirror of diversity Jew Ass A: this :[]pedia link says it all.
If you are not into Judaism then you are at least a pedophile...or have been abused for that matter.

Vaarg wants us to consult an "expert" about everything,
Darren wants us to read wikipedophilia
I'm not a fan of Wikipedia but their science articles are pretty accurate. Sure, they like to inject opinion into a lot of the racial science articles, but you can easily differentiate between the academics and the "Some people think that this is racist..." in the articles.

Since telegony would, as it is being stated, apply to even white women who have sex with lots of white guys only, that would imply you can find a genetic mixture of various white men in the resulting offspring.

There is a whole blooming industry of paternity testing services that do blood work and DNA analysis to tell who the father is, given multiple samples of the potential fathers. I've never heard of a testing coming back linking two or more men to the same child.

Really though, anyone who took basic biology courses knows this is bunk. Sperm doesn't mix with other sperm. Whichever sperm makes it to the egg is the one that fertilizes it.

This has nothing to do with me or VNN being Jewish (I'm quite Aryan, thank you very much ), it has to do with silly notions and perversions of science. The fact that the several openly racist academics out there aren't backing these ideas is enough for me.
 
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