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Technique is only peripheral in a situation in which you're using a knife to defend your life. People who focus on technique will always lose to an opponent whose determination to win is greater. He who does not hesitate to do whatever is necessary to win will be the victor, provided there is hesitation and a lack of resolve from his opponent.
BTW, are there any other fans of Pat Crawford's knives? I love the design of his FF. I have the CRKT version w/ aluminum handle and AUS-8 blade:
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When using an ice-pick, thrusting is best. But when using a straight-razor, slashing is best. (unless you are actually using it to shave yourself.)
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Having recently gotten rid of all my knifes, I wouldn’t advise anybody to carry one let alone use one. But if you must then the best piece of advice I can give you is this. DON'T EVER STAB, ALWAYS SLASH!
Here in the UK that could be the difference between getting charged for assault and attempted (or even actual) murder. In other words a few years or a life sentence... |
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I carry a pocketknife, useful for the aforementioned as well as a lockback folding knife with a 4" blade. I consider the 4" blade the most useful tool to have and not just for defense but also for skinning, gutting, working, etc. The lockback I use is sold by Klein Tools, Inc. and came with a nifty holder with a belt loop. Of course, some of you are getting into what I consider "esoteric" types of bladed weapons. I am just an average guy carrying something that noone gives a second look at. Show up with a cutlass and you'll get more attention than you want. Quote:
Note that in police training they are taught to take a man with a knife OUT. Cops do not screw around with a knife wielder because they know that they are just this close to being sliced and diced.
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Stab or slash, both are available options for a tool that does both well. It is not a good idea to limit yourself to one or the other.
Actual studies by the French Military of the 18th century showed them that stabs were more deadly than slashes. So, they redesigned the swords of their cavalry to make stabs more efficient. Slashes make horrible wounds but stabs reach the internal organs and are thus more deadly. German officers who studied swordsmanship with the Japanese concluded that the European rapier or epee were more useful weapons than the Japanese katana. But when you are fighting against a three foot long razor blade, you'd better be quick. The Japanese spear usually had a cross-piece on the pole. This prevented a swordsman who had been pierced through with the spear from running himself through along the pole to cut off the head of the spearman. All of these weapons are nasty tools for serious work. And all of them, regardless of design, depend upon the skill of he who wields it. So, of course, it is your practice that gives you perfection more so than the tools with which you practice. Last edited by banjo_billy; March 18th, 2007 at 07:45 AM. |
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realisticly you arent going to carry around any type of sword/spear/axe these days
so that leaves daggers and knives if we are talking about stab slash option a single edge knife with a thick blade is the best combination(like a bowie knife) imo. if you are going for a kill you come from behind and stab the neck/throat then slash at you draw the blade out if its a hand to hand combat situation, stabs are more deadly but harder to land, which is why a thick knife is better than a dagger, slash a few times to get him on the defencive then move in for a stab |
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They produce some really nice single hand open knives with a clip for easy access. I don’t see why someone would be confined to just slashing or thrusting. Get a good knife with a sharp point then you can do both. However you won’t be able to do either one if you can’t sharpen a knife. I am amazed at the number of people who don’t know how to properly sharpen a knife. The reason is most books and websites on the subject show a person how to sharpen a knife for cutting boxes or whittling not fighting.
Any knife I carry is sharp enough to shave, that way there is no effort in cutting. It dulls quicker than a knife with a slightly duller edge but if I need to cut something I want my knife to be ready on the spot to do the job. I can always sharpen it later when I am finished. You don’t have to spend a bundle to get a good knife. I would spend $40 max for a good functional knife. I know people who spend $200 on a pocketknife then lose it or break it. Get a good $15-25 knife from Wal-mart, keep the receipt and if it doesn’t function as promised take it back for a refund or exchange.
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Also don't be afraid to have 'purpose built' knives. A good all-around well-built knife is great, but I keep a Spyderco Yojimbo in each front pocket for one purpose only. I use a cheaper multi-role pocket knife for 'utility' duties.
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All though I have both, I would suggest if its knives were talking about, slashing is better, cause remember even knives built for slashing can also be used for thrusting..
Slashing can be used for a warning or a kill, thrusting will generally result in a kill, of course depending were.. |
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re: cutting vs. thrusting
Any comments re: the bowie knife? I am thinking of something like they carried during the civil war, large blade, wooden handle with a D shaped hand guard. Comments?
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I want like an extra long titanium ice-pick, something like a fencing foil but shorter and harder, that could attach in 2 or more places to the forearm so it stays very stable and I can just casually make a fist, not have to use my hand for anything or injure my fingers.
But anyway you're not going to walk around with that. Just thinking it would be the perfect stabbing weapon. Extremely light and hard, an extension of your arm that turns it into a short spear. I guess you COULD walk around if it were only about a foot long and retractable so you could push it back up your sleeve. You know there was something similar in a movie, but it was a short sword. Or a very large knife, like a giant out-the-front switchblade attached to this guy's forearm. Extra-jewy movie called "Marathon Man". The Joseph Mengele based character uses this weapon near the end.
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If you have a good fixed blade knife with a full tang it takes less than 2 seconds to pull and stab for even the most regular people. There are only two moves. However with a slash you have to pull the blade, cock your arm then make the slash and hope the blade penetrates the clothing. Heavy clothing can deflect the blow, which is telegraphed anyway. A stab is so fast and has much more penetration that it is effective on even a professional fighter. With that said if I were going to trust my life to a knife it wouldn’t be a folder of any kind. It would be a fixed blade full tang, preferably handmade knife. BTW not all slashing knives are effective thrusters. The thrust puts pressure on the retaining spring in a folder and even a small degrees off could put enough pressure on the spring that the knife could malfunction and cause the user more harm that the victim. Besides knives are for spics, if a person is going to go around he or she should do it like a white man and get a gun. Whites didn’t spend 400 years perfecting the boom stick for us to use caveman tools.
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