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Old October 6th, 2012 #461
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What I find interesting is the 'shag young teenagers' brigade here are still avoiding nailing themselves down to an age when they feel that sex (as an adult of say more than 4-5 years their senior to be generous) with young teenagers/older children becomes acceptable and stating their reasoning for why this is the case.
Earlier, after I mentioned the psychiatric definition of pædophilia, you seemed to take no note of it, continuing to complain that nobody was willing to nail down a definition of pædophilia. In pædophilia the object of attraction is prepubescent. There is no hint of pædophilia in the Forrest case.

There are other considerations however, like the protection of young females from their own poor judgment in relation to advances from males, with the purpose of preventing them from being ruined before marriage to an acceptable male. While sexual protection of young females used to be a major social concern, today it has been largely abandoned. "Sexual experimentation," even with Negroes, is encouraged. Preserving girls for marriage is no priority at all. The only remaining, approved taboo pertains to age-difference, which seems to have been made into the symbolic stand-in for all the protection of girls that has been lost.

I can think of several reasons why the current degenerate order objects to couplings of nubile White girls with older White men. In such a relationship the man will always be the clearly dominant partner (feminists will hate that). Since the man is older the values in the relationship will be more old-fashioned and less subject to influence by mass-media. The girl misses out on that phase of having a series of sex-partners, which might include non-Whites and would make it harder for her eventually to have a stable marriage.

I don't think that I am part of any "brigade" to which you refer since I am against opportunistic "shagging" but I will answer your question.

White girls reach full physical maturity usually when they are 15-16. At that age they are ripe for marriage (not for "shagging"). Marriage with consent of the parents is legal in most of the USA at age 16, but in many places (especially in the non-White world) it is lower.

Puberty these days usually occurs well before the age of 13 but it takes a few years for girls to take on the full form of a woman. So, there is a gray area between puberty and full physical maturity, which is one reason why the marriageable age varies from place to place. Another reason for the vagary of the marriageable age is that different races go through physical development at different rates.

If they do not marry when they are physically ready for it, they will very likely have a variety of sex-partners (possibly including Mr. Akins) before they do marry, and this is bad for a variety of reasons (as Adolf Hitler noted). It's even worse when some of the advances will be from non-Whites.

Morality and child-rearing being what they are these days, many girls have had a variety of sex-partners before they are even fully developed. The possibility for these girls to have a stable marriage is very small.

While it is true that whatever plan Jeremy Forrest and Megan Stammers made was without her parents' consent, it is also true that if she had been screwing teenage niggers instead there would have been no controversy, no prosecution, no publicity. There are some improprieties in the Forrest case but in the big picture the amount of opprobrium heaped on this man is absurd.

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Old October 6th, 2012 #462
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I think everyone here can agree on the fact that the leftist (Jewish) agenda has been to promote:

Feminism

Racial equality

Gender equality

Diversity (homosexuality, miscegenation)

Sexual revolution (promiscuity)

All of these things are at odds with the traditional paternalistc values of Western civilization, which saw women not as equals but as opposites of men.

The Jews and their liberal followers have tried to sell our society the concept of equality between the races, the genders, and values.

What better way to encourage sexual promiscuity than to tell girls that they are equals to men, and encourage them to become involved with immature teenage boys while they are still in their teens themselves; knowing full well that teenage boys are emotionally and financially incapable of embarking on a permanent, committed, monogamous relationship with these teenage girls that they are encouraged to pair off with, to experience their first in a long line of multiple sexual encounters with multiple partners?

This concept so perfectly serves the Jewish agenda of creating domestic instability in White culture that it should be obvious to everyone that such an arangement can be nothing but disasterious and determental to White culture.

This is the reason why the more traditional, paternalistic, arrangement of younger women being taken as wives by older men is far more preferable, provided that the social constructs are in place which would allow the men in such relationships the necessary control over their wives to ensure that the relationships endure.
 
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I've talked to her about men and relationships. I've told her what men are like and how they are not to be trusted.
Specificaly her daddy?
 
Old October 6th, 2012 #464
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Specificaly her daddy?
I quit being involved with females.

Why don't you quit drinking?
 
Old October 6th, 2012 #465
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I quit being involved with females.

Why don't you quit drinking?
Haven't had a drink in 26 days. Can you say the same thing about your sick fantasies about teen girls.
 
Old October 6th, 2012 #466
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Haven't had a drink in 26 days. Can you say the same thing about your sick fantasies about teen girls.
The last time I slept with a girl under 20 was on May 21, 2006, the day before my last wife's 20th birthday.
 
Old October 6th, 2012 #467
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The last time I slept with a girl under 20 was on May 21, 2006, the day before my last wife's 20th birthday.
That's not what I asked. Avoid all you want. Everyone here sees you for the epheboplile, that you are.

You are the reason why I haven't been posting much, lately. Reading your sick shit turns my stomach.
 
Old October 6th, 2012 #468
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You are the reason why I haven't been posting much, lately. Reading your sick shit turns my stomach.
So on that sickening note, can we close this awful thread?........
 
Old October 6th, 2012 #469
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So on that sickening note, can we close this awful thread?........
He'll just post his shit somewhere, er, everywhere else then. At least this thread is like candy to a child (pun intended). He just can't resist it.

I say keep his sick, twisted, deviant, perverted posts condensed in one thread as opposed to all over the board.
 
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The last time I slept with a girl under 20 was on May 21, 2006, the day before my last wife's 20th birthday.
In 2006 you were, what, 40 years old? Could have been your daughter, or your daughter's friend. I know, that thought really gets your gears going.

Sick Fuck.
 
Old October 6th, 2012 #471
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In 2006 you were, what, 40 years old? Could have been your daughter, or your daughter's friend. I know, that thought really gets your gears going.

Sick Fuck.
This really shouldn't be an issue. I posted a few days back about the age differences between various famous men and their wives (Grover Cleveland - 27 years, James Madison - 17 years, Adolf Hitler - 23 years, Alois Hitler - 23 years). Not most, but many women prefer much older men. I've noticed it especially with Italian girls.

Ephebophilia, btw, which you keep throwing at Akins, is not generally recognized as in itself pathological, although I would say that a man who keeps acquiring and dumping very young girlfriends so as always to have a new one is definitely somebody that you should want to keep far away from your daughter.

I think that the appeal of young females today is enhanced as a side-effect of sexual liberation and feminism. For example, given that single women are sleeping around (in a multiracial milieu), it behooves a man with any appreciation of cleanliness to find one that has done it as little as possible, which generally means that she will be young. Sexual experience also gives women emotional (and other) baggage that complicates any relationship and makes it harder for a marriage to last. The advantages given to women in education and careers also make it easier for a man to have something to offer materially, in relative terms, to a young female that has no career yet but wants to be a wife and mother instead. He can be her provider and really take care of her. The older male knows who he is, has judgment informed by experience, and is able to make the young female feel secure. It is easier for a man to fill the traditional and natural dominant male role (in spite of feminism and enforced equality) if his wife is much younger. The 30-something career woman by contrast doesn't need a man except perhaps as a sperm-donor.

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Old October 6th, 2012 #472
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This really shouldn't be an issue. I posted a few days back about the age differences between various famous men and their wives (Grover Cleveland, James Madison, Adolf Hitler, Alois Hitler). Not most, but many women prefer much older men. I've noticed it especially with Italian girls.
Once again, ancient fucking history. I thought we had this discussion already. What, didn't think I was looking? What you are talking about is over 70 years ago. We've made more advances in technology and general education in the past 70 years than the previous 6,000 years combined.

Get a fucking grip on reality, and stop talking about "ancient" ways.

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Ephebophilia, btw, which you keep throwing at Akins, is not generally recognized as in itself pathological, although I would say that a man who keeps acquiring and dumping teenage girls so as always to have a new one is definitely somebody that you should want to keep far away from your daughter.
EPIC FAIL.

Ephebophilia is the primary or exclusive adult sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.[1][2] The term was originally used in the late 19th to mid 20th century, and has been more recently revisited by Ray Blanchard.[2] It is one of a number of sexual preferences across age groups subsumed under the technical term "chronophilia". Ephebophilia strictly denotes the preference for mid-to-late adolescent sexual partners, not the mere presence of some level of sexual attraction. In sexual ethics, it may be defined as a sexual preference for girls generally 14–16 years old.

So far, Akins fits the bill 100%.

As far as your claim of it not being pathological.......

Generally, the preference is not regarded by psychologists as a pathology when it does not interfere with other major areas of one's life, and is not listed by name as a mental disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition, Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR), the ICD-10, or as a paraphilia. However, the preference can sometimes be diagnosed as a disorder if it results in dysfunction or exploitative behavior, under the DSM specification 309.2, "Paraphilia Not Otherwise Specified."

Please, when you try to mince words, and spread propaganda - you might want to make sure that you are not obviously glossing over key elements that are in direct contradition to your statement. Try reading more than the first fucking sentence to a definition.

Fact is Ephebophilia CAN and IS a pathology when it interferes with other major areas of one's life. Say, for example - being physically repulsed by your spouse because they are no longer 14-16 years old. That physical repulsion leads to problems in the bedroom. Problems in the bedroom will INEVITABLY lead to strife in the relationship, and usually (statistially) end up in DIVORCE. If this isn't an example of "Interfering with other major areas of one's life", I don't know what the fuck is.

As far as the second part:

It CAN and IS considered a disorder when it results in dysfunctional or exploitive behavior.

"Nice Pull, Jeremy" - Steven L Akins

"It's all about what you can get away with." - Steven L Akins

Sounds pretty dysfunctional and expolitive to me.

Hadding -

I told you to go back and debate with Kayden. He's more in your league.
 
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I say keep his sick, twisted, deviant, perverted posts condensed in one thread as opposed to all over the board.
If that's your opinion of him (and I hope it is) then don't you think he should be denied access to a forum like this rather than accommodated even in a strictly controlled kind of way?

What's the point of all this bullshit?

Mention dodgy moon-landings and you're smoked but post 1000 posts a day on the joys of jail-bait and you're accommodated...I just don't get it.
 
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I told you to go back and debate with Kayden. He's more in your league.
And I suggest you have another beer.
 
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And I suggest you have another beer.


I'm way ahead of you, couldn't you tell by my completely incoherent post? Hell, I've been drinking since last week.

Pretty sad when a raging drunk (I'm not an alcoholic - because they go to meetings afterall - I'm too busy drinking) can completely tear apart your bullshit half truths and misleading posts. Wow, what's thay say about you and Kayden, eh?

OK, enough of the "Hi my name is Hadding Scott, and I'm a chronic idiot" talk.

Akins is an Ephebophile, pure and simple. ANY person that attempts to argue that fact shows their true colors immediately.

Care to play anymore "I'm in love/tempted by an underage girl mainstream music videos" and then claim that you meant it in jest as opposed to a justification?

hiccup - get me another beer.
 
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If that's your opinion of him (and I hope it is) then don't you think he should be denied access to a forum like this rather than accommodated even in a strictly controlled kind of way?

What's the point of all this bullshit?

Mention dodgy moon-landings and you're smoked but post 1000 posts a day on the joys of jail-bait and you're accommodated...I just don't get it.
I know you asked her, but we are sitting right next to eachother (world's worst kept secret). You are goddamned right. Akins is the type of person who makes us all look bad, and should be fucking denied access to any and all WN sites, IMO, and in hers.

The only good thing about Akins - he draws other sick fucks out, like moths to a flame.
 
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This really shouldn't be an issue. I posted a few days back about the age differences between various famous men and their wives (Grover Cleveland - 27 years, James Madison - 17 years, Adolf Hitler - 23 years, Alois Hitler - 23 years). Not most, but many women prefer much older men. I've noticed it especially with Italian girls.
Why yes, Hadding. Dirty old men have always existed. Dumb, insecure cunts with daddy issues have always existed as well.
What is your point? Do you have one?

This thread sucks.
 
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Why yes, Hadding. Dirty old men have always existed. Dumb, insecure cunts with daddy issues have always existed as well.
What is your point? Do you have one?

This thread sucks.
Oh, to be as eloquent as you. I'm jealous!

 
Old October 7th, 2012 #480
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This really shouldn't be an issue. I posted a few days back about the age differences between various famous men and their wives (Grover Cleveland - 27 years, James Madison - 17 years, Adolf Hitler - 23 years, Alois Hitler - 23 years). Not most, but many women prefer much older men. I've noticed it especially with Italian girls.
This justification has already been destroyed. But harking back to the good ol' days still leaves me waiting for your five year old granddaughter to come and sweep my chimney.

You also posted a few days back about the innocence of Kevin Strom. I asked several times what makes you believe an innocent man would willingly put his hands up to the crime of possessing child porn photos if he hadn't done it. I don't believe you've answered yet.
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