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Not too much of a loss: the next wave of expulsions from Stormfront would probably replace them. Heh.
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Judging by his pro big-gubmint economic views Fakins has a contradictory, yet complimentary, understanding of "exploitation".
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This is not to say that I approve of the case that is the topic of this thread. Yes, he did violate professional ethics and he seems to be out of control. The girl may end up dumping him simply because he's not in control of himself. As regards "pædophilia," this is not pædophilia. This girl is physically mature and will be old enough to marry with parental consent within a few months, and in some states she's already old enough. I had a grandmother and grandfather that married when they were about the same age as these two. A big age-difference in marriage might seem weird to you but historically it's not unusual. Check out the age-difference between Adolf Hitler's parents: 23 years, the same as between Hitler himself and Eva Braun. Dolley Madison was 17 years younger than President James Madison. President Grover Cleveland married the daughter of a friend in the White House when she was 21 and he was 48.
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In the UK, this is paedophilia and grooming. No matter what other countries and states do/accept in terms of legal age of consent, here, 15 is unacceptable and that is why I and other UKrs are so shocked and disgusted by it. That's quite aside of the disgust at the abuse of position which you acknowledge. |
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A pedophile is someone who is exclusively or to a significant degree sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children. This definition using legalese tends to give some respectability to the most vile of criminals. In ordinary parlance, a pedophile, especially one convicted of sexual crimes, is a monster who defiles the innocent and renders them scarred emotionally for life. Where the attraction extends to children post puberty, ie young adolescents, the French Canadian experts distinguish it as ‘hebephile’. This term is not known in the English language. [source] "Age of consent" and being "unacceptable" are distinct from pædophilia. Age of consent and marriageable age are usually well past puberty, with the unfortunate result that many girls have become sluts before they are even old enough to marry (which is probably why Hitler advocated early marriage). I have noticed that newspapers exploit the vulgar misuse of the term pædophile as a way to avoid negative references to homosexuals. If a homosexual does something inappropriate toward a sexually mature but underage male, nowadays he is incorrectly labeled a pædophile instead of an homosexual. Thus Hillary Clinton can say in her speech to the UN that homosexuals don't recruit teenage boys; oh no, it's "pædophiles" (according to the vulgar definition) that do that, never homosexuals. That's one of the consequences of this reckless use of terms.
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I trust I don't need to provide a legal definition for the word child and that we can all agree it means someone under 18 or 16? In any case: Quote:
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Insisting that 15 does not = paedophile helps normalise the disgusting act of having sex or lusting after those who are underage - children. I have no interest in helping those with an unhealthy attraction to children - paedophiles- feel better about their miserable, worthless selves. Quote:
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I am sorry that in the UK you are tossing around an inflammatory term that is undefined by UK law. I guess in that case it can mean whatever you want it to mean. But you do have psychiatrists in the UK, and I think if you asked one of them he would tell you that a pædophile is somebody with a fetish for prepubescents.
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zog is trying to expand the term pedophilia to increase it's power and as with immigration imbeciles on the right who swallow slogans seem bent on increasing zog's powers over the citizens.
Brit law defines child porn to include under age of consent which is a broadening of the term considerably. 15 is old enough. girls should not be in school anyway but reproducing. They don't even need to read and write. Look at paki women. let them be yer role models as pakis have good families and the UK is a disaster with 25% unmarried mother underclass dysgenic sluts married to the state. Like Babylon where women served the temple. babylonian jewish culture there you are. now an image of a 17.5 yr old girl is child porn in the insane UK. Zog power grab behind this entire pedo craze. In Ireland they lowered the homo age of consent while raising the hetero one. Making heterosexuality increasingly illegal same as with all the sex harassment bs . Men have no rights and women are great big shopping holes sucking in massive amount of chinese made consumer crap. |
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Using the purely-psychiatric definition may help your case but shrinks do not have a monopoly on the word. From Wiki. Quote:
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But you do have psychiatrists in the UK, and I think if you asked one of them he would tell you that a pædophile is somebody with a fetish for prepubescents.[/QUOTE] I'm not interested in the babble of psychiatrists with a vested interest and a fixation on medical diagnoses or in any of the con tricks of their "art". |
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The marriageable age in the UK was only raised to 16 in 1929. Is pædophilia now different from what it was before 1929? Continued dialectic would tend to force you to adopt the psychiatric definition.
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Hopefully that simplifies it for you. You might like to step away from mentioning the Marriage Act, seeing as it was changed to requiring parental consent under 21. |
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Correct. You said "underage = pædophilia" and then you retreated to "under 16." You also tried to hang everything on the word child, which has a wide range of meanings. If I ask you to define pædophilia in the UK before the marriageable age was raised to 16 in 1929, you will be at a loss until you accept the psychiatric definition.
I got a positive rep point here just now from a female, btw.
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What you and other defenders very often miss is the glaring difference between 2012 and 1929. In the 1900's, approximately half of all children died before they reached five. The life-span was much less for many reasons - lack of medical knowledge, poverty and so on. If girls had waited until 20 or 21 to have their first child, they would not only have been an economic burden on their parents well past sustainability for the rest of the family. They would likely not have lived to see the child reach a fair age. Something like 1 in 4 births resulted in the death of the mother and the poorer you were, the higher the odds. Teenage is a relatively new concept and teenage in the 1900's - had the word been coined then - was an entirely different set of experiences to now. Marriages were arranged/undertaken for social or economic profit and reasons, not for love. In many cases it was first come, first served. Returning to the healthcare of the 1900's, you do realise that we have made significant advances since then, and we have determined, through science, the age at which a girl is best equipped, emotionally, mentally, physically and financially to raise a child? We have realised that a girl/child is still growing at the age of 12 but has usually finished growing by 16/17 and we have adjusted the childbearing age - because that is what sex is primarily for - having children - accordingly. I see this as a good thing. Guidelines should be changed as knowledge becomes available. I suppose I cannot adequately answer your question as I am unable to put aside all the biological and medical knowledge that has been made before and during my lifetime. Of course, if you desire a return to the good ol' days, send your five year old son/grandson round to mine. My chimney needs sweeping. edit to your edit: Quote:
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It wasn't me with the rep point just in case anyone wondered. Forrest was supposed to be the TEACHER, a MARRIED one at that. So far he seems to have behaved like a perpetual youth seeking thrills.
Very much like these parents who want to be "friends" and not parents to their children.
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These legally established ages for marriage etc. are arbitrary. The psychiatric definition of pædophilia is not. The psychiatric definition is the only real definition in the UK, since law there does not define it. The word pædophile uttered without the applicability of any legal or psychiatric definition is simply an insult, in this instance a caricature through exaggeration. Real pædophiles exist. A 30-year-old guy with a fully developed 15-year-old girlfriend is taking a big risk but he is not a pædophile. Judging by the way Jeremy Forrest has handled the situation, I'd say that he's a little crazy and out of control, but he's not a pædophile. Errol Flynn was not a pædophile either. If you think that's a pædophile then you don't know what kinds of real sickos are out there. (Look into Larry Birkin if you want a hint.) Quote:
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