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Old September 22nd, 2009 #1
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Default Asian Gangs In 'Cash For Crash' Scam

Asian gangs named in Britain's 'cash for crash' scam

"Pakistani, Afghan and Bangladeshi criminal gangs in
Britain are staging deliberate car accidents in order
to claim their victims' car insurance money, police
say.

In what has been dubbed a 'cash for crash' scam,
the organised gangs, operating primarily in Yorkshire,
Lancashire and the suburbs of London, are said to
be costing the British insurance industry about 350
million pounds a year."


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Old September 22nd, 2009 #2
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Internet fiver says one of us on here gets blamed for one of those.


On the story itself - no wonder premiums go up and up and they've all stopped driving round in Sunnys.
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About 15 or so years ago Denver was infected with a huge influx of little Russian jews. This was their first scam. They would stop at a traffic signal, wait for someone to stop behind them, and back up, striking the car behind them. Then they would jump out screaming that the car behind had driven into them. Too often, the insurance companies would just pay up. Two of my friends had this pulled on them.

What stopped it was the even larger influx of Mexicans. None of the Mexicans have insurance, plus some of them have a bad habit of beating the holy crap out of little jews who back into them.

I still would prefer that they all disappeared...the jews into tree limb shredders. The Mexicans can just go back to Mexico. I'm kind of partial to the little fucks. Three of them are doing work in the front lawn, even as we speak*. They still need to go back.

* Not my call. The front lawn is the HOA responsibility. I'd hire white kids.

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Internet fiver says one of us on here gets blamed for one of those.
I will see your internet fiver and raise you one trillion zims.

 
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Asian gangs named in Britain's 'cash for crash' scam

"Pakistani, Afghan and Bangladeshi criminal gangs in
Britain are staging deliberate car accidents in order
to claim their victims' car insurance money, police
say.

In what has been dubbed a 'cash for crash' scam,
the organised gangs, operating primarily in Yorkshire,
Lancashire and the suburbs of London, are said to
be costing the British insurance industry about 350
million pounds a year."


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Weyman Bennett condones and encourages Mustapha's insurance scam.
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Obama has been propositioned by Min Geeta.

(nice work "Denise" )
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This paki, Mohammed Patel, has caused at least 93 car crashes so he could claim against other peoples insurance. He and the other pakis in his gang have cost the insurance industry £1.6 billion. This type of fraud is costing the motor insurance industry £350 million each year - the equivalent of £49 on every motor insurance premium.

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A civil servant at the heart of a “cash for crash” scam which is costing motorists an extra £50 annually on their insurance policies was jailed in Manchester today for four and a half years.

Mohammed Patel, who worked at the Department of Work and Pensions, would stage bogus road traffic accidents by braking suddenly at junctions or roundabouts to force drivers to crash into him.

The 25-year-old was involved in at least 93 forced collisions, earning £500 a time, and allowing a wider network of accomplices, mostly Asian men in Bolton, Rochdale, Oldham and Manchester, to mount inflated insurance claims worth an average £17,000.

Patel, of Bolton, Greater Manchester, made around £46,000 for his role in the fraud which netted £1.6 million. Altogether this type of fraud is costing the motor insurance industry £350 million each year - the equivalent of £49 on every motor insurance premium.

After the hearing Richard Davies, AXA UK risk manager, speaking on behalf of the Insurance Fraud Bureau, said that they have made 28 separate investigations across Britain into alleged “cash for crash” frauds. They involve thousands of bogus accidents.

He said: “From the driving public’s point of view we have started 28 separate operations right the way across the UK looking into this type of scam. It is the reason why we spent £10 million setting up the bureau.

“We view it as a threat not only in terms of premiums but as a threat to public safety. There is a significant impact on individual motorists involved in these collisions. That is not a position that should be allowed to continue.”

There were extraordinary scenes in the small court where there were so many defendants awaiting sentence that they had to use the public gallery as an overspill dock.

Judge Bernard Lever was sentencing 24 other people for their roles in the scam.

William Baker, for the prosecution, said that staff in offices overlooking the Eden roundabout on the A34 near Cheadle noticed that the same driver was involved in a similar sort of accident on a number of occasions. They became suspicious and alerted police.

On November 11, 2005 Patel was driving a Toyota Yaris which stopped suddenly on the roundabout for no apparent reason forcing a man driving to work in a van to crash into him.

Mr Baker said that the fraud rests on the understanding that motorists who hit the back of another vehicle are at fault. The van driver thus appeared to be the one to blame and an insurance claim was subsequently submitted.

The Yaris belonged to a man called Abdul Ghafoor, 58, who lives in Bury, Greater Manchester. He claimed to be driving at the time and stated that a friend, Farid Rabbani, 32, was sitting alongside him.

Both men went on to file claims for personal injury, the cost of courtesy cars as well as the cost of repairing the vehicle.

An hour later Patel was behind the wheel of a Mercedes CLK, belonging to another man, Shahid Latif, 32, at the same spot. When he slammed on the brakes a lorry driver fell victim to the same scam.

There was no visible damage to the Mercedes which was driven from the scene. However, ten days later there was apparently extensive damage to the rear when it was inspected by an insurance engineer.

Workers in the office block told the lorry driver what had happened an hour earlier and he, in turn, alerted his employer’s insurers.

Mr Baker told the court how Patel, who lived with his South African girlfriend, Ettorina Hay, 29, spent his money on a Mercedes sports car, a Lincoln Navigator 4x4, a 60-inch television, designer clothes and luxury holidays.

He said: “When police searched the house in Bolton they found it was decorated with expensive furniture and electrical equipment. It could truly be said to be an Aladdin’s Cave.”

Patel, who had a long record of motoring offences, admitted one count of conspiracy to defraud, six counts of dangerous driving and four counts of driving while disqualified.

He was said by his counsel “somewhat extraordinarily” to have held down a responsible job working for the Department of Work and Pensions and to have started his involvement in the scam when he wrecked a friend’s Subaru Imprezza car.

Judge Bernard Lever retorted: “He didn’t have to go on and make a production line of it. Did he?” The judge lectured Patel that this was not a victimless crime because fraud costs the industry £1.9 billion each year.

He also cited the cases of two female victims who suffered psychological trauma. One pensioner was so shocked by the incident she was bed-ridden for a month and now worries about driving across a roundabout on the way to the shops. She had been shocked to receive the solicitor’s demands for compensation.

Jailing him and disqualifying him from driving for three and a half years, he said: “The decent motorists of this country are disgusted by this conduct and are sick and tired of having to pay for it.”

The judge adjourned sentencing Mrs Hay, who admits money laundering charges, until December 18 because he wanted to know who was going to care for her eight-year-old son. He warned her that all sentencing options remained open.

The main players in the scam also face proceedings under the Proceeds of Crime Act.

Sergeant Mark Beales, of Greater Manchester Police’s special operations branch, said: “Patel was prepared to put lives in danger to make money. This abuse of the insurance claims system has implications for all law-abiding road users.”
 
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Scumbag. I'm amazed to see him get such a long sentence for it, though. Do they never think that these people they crash into could have babies in the back seat, or heart conditions or something?

Didn't someone here fall victim to something like this? (fyc, maybe? )
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If you ever know of someone whose actually going out and doing this, you wouldn't want to go rent a big dumptruck and give 'em a nice head-on collision where the dumptruck climbs up onto his little Pakimobile and crushes him.

that would be tragic indeed.
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Scumbag. I'm amazed to see him get such a long sentence for it, though. Do they never think that these people they crash into could have babies in the back seat, or heart conditions or something?

Didn't someone here fall victim to something like this? (fyc, maybe? )
ive been hit of uninsured paki drivers on 3 occasions. the police should be actively going around the paki areas and scrapping every car they find without insurance (even if the car belongs to a white).
 
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Here's another one.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/8597452.stm
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An insurance scam in which car accidents are deliberately staged by a claims company to cash in on compensation has been exposed by a BBC investigation in the Midlands.


Zeeshan Ahmad runs Speed Claims


Every year, this kind of fraud costs the insurance industry £400m.

Victims of real accidents do, of course, use legitimate claims handling firms to help them get compensation.

But we heard of a company in Wolverhampton which was doing more than just handling insurance claims - they have been staging the crashes as well.

Our undercover investigator met the man who runs Speed Claims, Zeeshan Ahmad.

The first time they met, Mr Ahmad openly explained how the system works. The conversation which we filmed secretly, saw Mr Ahmad tell our investigator to "bring the car here" and "then we just do the job on it".

When asked "you make the accident?", he replied "yeah".

And it becomes clear that when they are staged this way, there is cash in crashes.

[Go to http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/8597452.stm for video]

During the secret filming, Mr Ahmad revealed that there were large amounts of money to be made by falsely claiming for extras.

He said: "You're going to get the value of your car and you're going to put some passengers in your car and the passengers will get some money as well."

He told the undercover investigator the passengers would get injury compensation with the "going rate" being £2,000.

We wanted to test how it worked in practice.

We returned to Speed Claims, this time with a vehicle.

The directors of the company have told us they had no idea what Mr Ahmad was doing. But for him, it seems, business was booming.

He showed us cheques that had come in from other claims. In the secret filming we did, he admitted that he had staged crashes before, boasting that "loads of cheques were coming in".

Mr Ahmad coached us in detail about what we would need to say to our insurers.

He told us about the fake accident five hours before it was meant to have taken place - and warned us not to report it too early.

He reminded us that we should tell our insurers that the fake accident happened at 2000 hrs at night.

He said: "So don't phone them before then! Phone them around nine o'clock, when you see your car."

Astonishingly, he even drew us a map of how the accident was supposed to have taken place to show our insurers.

We left our car with him.

He told us that two cars, one of them ours, would be smashed up in his yard.

He paid us £500 to take part in the scam and admit liability. We would take the blame and the other driver could cash in.

A full 24 hours later and our car was delivered back to us, dropped off around the corner from the so-called accident site.

As instructed, we reported the so-called accident to our insurers.

But what Mr Ahmad didn't know was that this was a dummy policy, organised by fraud experts from the insurance company, RSA.

They monitored the policy over the subsequent weeks and, nearly two weeks later, a claim came in from the supposed driver of the other vehicle. He was claiming for whiplash injuries for driver and passenger, plus hire care costs.

We spoke to John Beadle, the chairman of the Insurance Fraud Bureau, an industry-wide group of experts set up to combat this kind of crime.

He said our claim was fairly typical of the kind of things insurance companies face.

"Wrapped up in the claim will be bodily injury, normally whiplash, plus storage of the vehicle, removal of the vehicle from the scene ," he said.

"When you take all these together and the cost of this kind of a claim could well be around £20,000. The fact is that it costs us all around about £44 on every insurance policy as a result of that kind of fraud."

The Insurance Fraud Bureau is so worried about it that it has set up Cheatline, a website and freephone telephone number for consumers to report suspected fraud.

We asked to interview Mr Ahmad but he said he was not available.

On the phone he did tell us that he had not staged a crash. He blamed others for organising it, but our filming shows his involvement clearly.

The authorities are keen to talk to him.

Unsurprisingly, this is one claim the insurers will not be paying.
 
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Scumbag. I'm amazed to see him get such a long sentence for it, though. Do they never think that these people they crash into could have babies in the back seat, or heart conditions or something?

Didn't someone here fall victim to something like this? (fyc, maybe? )
no, i was hit by an uninsured paki cunt. been hit of uninsured drivers at least 3 times (all 3 times were ethnics). pity the police wont clamp down on these scum, but the communist labour party wont let it happen.
 
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