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Old September 1st, 2021 #1
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The fastest speed at which humans have travelled is 39,937.7 km/h (24,816.1 mph). The command module of Apollo 10, carrying Col. (later Lieut Gen.) Thomas Patten Stafford,
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com...2C%20USAF%20(b.

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The escape velocity from Earth's surface is about 11,186 m/s (6.951 mi/s; 40,270 km/h; 36,700 ft/s; 25,020 mph; 21,744 kn)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_velocity
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Old September 1st, 2021 #2
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Try to imagine flying an airplane at 25,000+ mph and trying to land it on a rocky planet with no runway and no atmosphere so no air and 1/6 the gravity of earth.

Try to imagine doing it without killing everyone on board and then flying back to earth. Try to imagine doing it with 52-year old technology, technology so ancient that the average person has more computing power in their smartphone today than NASA had in entire buildings in 1969.

You would have to believe in "magic" to believe that was possible either then or today.

Interesting how over half a century later, no one else is claiming to have walked on the moon.
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Astronomically speaking, the moon right on top of us at a mere 238,900 miles away, less than two light seconds. It's an extremely tiny distance compared to the diameter of our Milky Way (105,700 light years) or the farthest galaxy we can see - GN-z11 at 13.4 billion light-years.

You look up at the sky and see the technology advances mankind has made in the past 200 years and think that a manned moon landing should be possible. But when you really think about the logistics involved, that does not appear remotely possible even today.

I don't think all government hoaxes are bad, although almost all are lol. NASA needs to compete with jews and the Military Industrial Complex and for funds, as they need to compete with other non-Whites and the welfare state.

NASA does far more important things than either the welfare state or ZOG military machine. We map the solar system for dangerous asteroids. We watch the sun for dangerous solar storms. We theoretically try to map out how we can eventually get off this planet because if we can't, we are doomed.

While I don't think the Moon Landing hoax is necessarily a bad thing, it just seems a little dumb when we treat it like it really happened.
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Old September 1st, 2021 #4
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I usually post this link for debunking Moon-landing hoax theories:

http://www.clavius.org/
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Old September 1st, 2021 #5
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A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon - MM2

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Old September 2nd, 2021 #6
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Why do idiots believe that no one else is more capable than they are?

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Try to imagine flying an airplane at 25,000+ mph and trying to land it on a rocky planet with no runway and no atmosphere so no air and 1/6 the gravity of earth.

Try to imagine doing it without killing everyone on board and then flying back to earth. Try to imagine doing it with 52-year old technology, technology so ancient that the average person has more computing power in their smartphone today than NASA had in entire buildings in 1969.
And you are the perfect example of that. You cannot imagine anyone doing that, ergo, it must not be possible. You believe the entire race to be as dull and unambitious as you are.

It is not necessary to reach escape velocity to reach the moon, as the moon itself it subject to the earth's gravity. You simply have to enter a lunar transfer orbit. You enter an orbit high enough to reach the equilibrium point between the earth and the moon, and then transfer over to an orbit around the moon.

Here is a good site that answers the most common objections to the moon landings:

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
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Why do otherwise reasonable people ask the same question about people who think the Holocaust is a hoax?

The reasons are so numerous that it's difficult to pick an example but I'll go with the following since it is simple:



Apollo was a very small craft yet the rockets producing thousands of pounds of thrust and literally only a few feet away from the astronauts cause no sound or vibration in the pressurised cabin.
Apollo Landing audio - https://app.box.com/s/xe5a9o467b7c15wmnyko4jb48ma5ypmn


The vast issues, many of which defy the laws of physics (e.g., the suits, which switch back and forth from heating to cooling instantaneously, produce no exhaust) could fill a book, and have. I don't really care, it is one of the things that I've spent far to many hours looking into.
I'm a fan of NASA and the questions surrounding Apollo are entirely absent from their subsequent work, which is not small. I can't recommend wasting any time on it but if you must the following documentary gives a number of places to start.
Apollo Investigation part 1- https://www.bitchute.com/video/PlHF5Q9z8mFk/
Apollo Investigation parts 2&3 - https://www.bitchute.com/video/IqxgWLdHtp2Z/
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The reasons are so numerous that it's difficult to pick an example but I'll go with the following since it is simple:

Apollo was a very small craft yet the rockets producing thousands of pounds of thrust and literally only a few feet away from the astronauts cause no sound or vibration in the pressurised cabin.

The vast issues, many of which defy the laws of physics (e.g., the suits, which switch back and forth from heating to cooling instantaneously, produce no exhaust) . . .
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean that it didn't happen. You don't understand why the decent engine wasn't noisy, you don't understand how the backpacks work. There are tens of thousands of details about the mission that I'm sure you don't understand. One would literally need to explain all the details of the mission and the reasons behind them to you, and then you'd still come up with more objections.

Let's face it: You simply don't believe it's possible for humans to travel to the moon. That is your subjective feeling. All of these objections are simply a cover. One could come up with a similar list of objections for any advanced technology. For example, cell phones are impossible. There's no way a tiny device could pick out the correct signal from the hundreds of thousands of conversations going on simulatneously, and there's no way that a call could be passed from tower to tower without being dropped. Yet White people are very clever and have figured out all those myriad details.

If you're going to post videos, please provide a sumary of the contents. Otherwise, you're just posting advertisements for a particular point of view. I'm certainly not going to waste my time watching any of the videos. If a video has something worthwhile to say, you should be able to put it in your own words.
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Please tell us why we should care about that pointless video. Posting stuff like that turns this forum into a joke.
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This is why I no longer get involved in pointless debates about the Moon landings, and just post the link to clavius.org that can explain it better than I can, or the Bad Astronomy site Nikola posted. Personally, I find it difficult to fathom that people on a White Nationalist website who otherwise believe in the superior intelligence, ingenuity and creativity of the White race find it hard to believe we weren't smart enough to go to the Moon in spite of all evidence that we did. I don't think H.B. and Joeylowsac were born yet when the Apollo landings occurred, and it seems to be younger people are the ones who deny it happened the most. Either that, or they are simply trolling. Kind of like that scene in the 2014 movie Interstellar where it was being taught in schools the Moon landings never happened. At this rate, they will be teaching that for real along with all the other lies, like the Holohoax.
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Why do idiots believe that no one else is more capable than they are?
It's a hoax. Get over it, loser.

It's no different than the Holohoax, the Global Warming hoax or the Coronahoax.

How fast does a rocket have to travel to get into space?

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This really depends on what you mean by "into space." If you just want to get into orbit around the Earth, you need to reach speeds of at least 4.9 miles per second, or about 17,600 miles per hour. If you want to completely escape Earth's gravity and travel to another moon or planet, though, you need to be going even faster - at a speed of at least 7 miles per second or about 25,000 miles per hour.
https://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/...s%20per%20hour.

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Escape velocity is the speed at which an object must travel to break free of a planet or moon's gravitational force and enter orbit. A spacecraft leaving the surface of Earth, for example, needs to be going about 11 kilometers (7 miles) per second, or over 40,000 kilometers per hour (25,000 miles per hour), to enter orbit.
https://www.nasa.gov/audience/foredu..._Velocity.html
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It's a hoax. Get over it, loser.

It's no different than the Holohoax, the Global Warming hoax or the Coronahoax.
So is Ronnie Raygun.
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So is Ronnie Raygun.
I agree. I think Reagan was shit. That's left over from a few years ago when Andrew Anglin was trying to rebrand his site to normie Republican and was encouraging others to do the same.
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It's a hoax. Get over it, loser.
Simply making a pronouncement and repeating it doesn't make it so. None of you hoaxers has ever made any argument that can stand up to scrutiny. You're the adult equivalent of school-yard bullies. You hate the thought of anyone being greater than you, so you try to tear down their achivements, like BLM tearing down Confederate statues.

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Do you even understand the sources that you're citing? It says "about" 25,000 mph. In your first post, you said Apollo 10 traveled 24,816.1 mph. That's certainly "about" 25,000. Furthermore, escape velicity itself is not a constant; it depends on altitude. The higher the altitude, the lower the escape velicity. In your first post, you wrote that the escape velocity from the earth's surface is 25,020 mph. However, Apollo 10 performed a trans-lunar injection from earth orbit, not from the earth's surface, so the escape velocity was less.

You can't make valid scientific claims about things that you don't understand. For example, if you read in a book that the moon completes one orbit around the earth in 27.3 days, you can't claim that a full moon will return in that time, because the position of the earth relative to the sun will have changed. The period between full moons is closer to 30 days. But if you just read one sentence from a book or a website and try to make scientific claims from it without understanding it, you'll get caught up in those types of errors.
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It's a hoax. Get over it, loser.

It's no different than the Holohoax, the Global Warming hoax or the Coronahoax.

How fast does a rocket have to travel to get into space?



https://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/...s%20per%20hour.


https://www.nasa.gov/audience/foredu..._Velocity.html
Escape velocity is the speed you would need to escape Earth's gravity well from the surface of the Earth, assuming you don't have any thrusters (and neglecting drag).

If you have thrusters, which all spaceships do have, you don't have to reach escape velocity. If this is your argument as to why the lunar landing is a hoax, you might want to learn something of the rudiments of Physics before you continue.
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