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Old March 3rd, 2009 #1
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Europe's Racial Nightmare: The Gypsies
















Gypsies first arrived in Europe in the 14th Century AD with help from the Turkish Ottoman Empire.



Gypsy population distribution in Europe. East-central and Southeast Europe have it the worst!



Gypsy population distribution in Eastern Europe.

 
Old March 13th, 2009 #2
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About 100 000 Gypsies in Macedonia.

Just joking only 60 000 according to last census.
 
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Yes they are manice that is for shure...one big problem is: Gypsies are police informers, so when we hitting on them we must be cautious, police dont like when they lose informants.
In Dalmatia (my region) there maybe max 150 Gypsies, but in rest of Croatia is bad...in nord they have willages of 1000 of them.
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Balkan people tend to trivialize Gypsies. Little do they know or maybe even care about the cruelty Gypsies are capable of. Note how filthy they are:





Here, Gypsies get a monument for an unfinished good job. You could post your comments, on this site:

http://www.gypsygirlpress.net/gypsyn...Holocaust.html

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...(AP) BERLIN – Germany has started building a memorial to about 500,000 Gypsies persecuted by the Nazis.

Construction on the square well in Berlin's central Tiergarten park follows 16 years of debate among leading groups representing Germany's Gypsies, or Sinti and Roma. It is due to be completed in 2009.

Romani Rose, leader of Germany's Central Council for Sinti and Roma, spoke at Friday's groundbreaking ceremony. Rose praised the government for "recognizing its historical responsibility for those Gypsies who were persecuted under the Nazis."

Some 220,000 to 500,000 Gypsies were killed during the Holocaust. Berlin also has memorials to Jews and gay victims killed by the Nazis...
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Balkan people tend to trivialize Gypsies. Little do they know or maybe even care about the cruelty Gypsies are capable of. Note how filthy they are:

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do you know how to learn bear to dance?

put bear on steel plate, than light fire under steel plate...when plate is start to heat you start to play drum...

bear MUST dance becouse steel is too hot to stay with pawns, so he dance

after few those "sesion" bear is dancing every time when drums is played (he thinks that floor will be hot again)
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Old March 24th, 2009 #6
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I'd like to teach Gypsies a few beardance steps, before performing medical experiments on them
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Wednesday 22.06.2011 | 13:59

“Roma migrations could affect EU enlargement process”

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BELGRADE -- Migration of Roma from the Western Balkans to the EU could affect the enlargement process, European Commission Director for Western Balkans Pierre Mirel says.

Roma National Council President Vitomir Mihajlović said that Roma were the poorest and most uneducated ethnic minority in Serbia and that this needed to change.

“Don’t give us the fish, teach us how to fish,” he told the EU and Serbian officials.

Mirel assessed at a seminar on the Roma's social inclusion in Serbia on Wednesday that EU enlargement fatigue could happen if the citizens kept closely connecting migration and enlargement issues.

He said that Serbia needed to take a series of measures in order to fully include Roma into society, primarily in education, so they would not leave the country.

“You will have EU’s support in that,” Mirel stressed and added that Roma were discriminated in all European countries and that they were in worse position than majority population which was impermissible in the 21st century.

He pointed that there were 6,000 Roma without IDs in Serbia and called on the government to address the issue as soon as possible.

Serbian Deputy Prime Minister for European Integration Božidar Đelić said he expected EU’s financial support so Serbia could improve Roma position and their quality of life, adding that it would show Serbia’s European character.

He pointed out that Roma population in Serbia was facing big problems, that between 60 and 70 percent of them were unemployed, that their life expectancy was shorter and that they dropped out of school early.

According to Đelić, the government has taken a series of measures aimed at tackling the problem and it will continue to implement so-called positive discrimination measures which will, among other things, allow 180 Roma students to enroll into university for free.

He pointed out that it was also necessary to allocate more money for improvement of Roma position on a local level and that that implementation of the law on fiscal decentralization would enable just that.

Belgrade Mayor Dragan Đilas stressed that Roma position in Serbia was poor but that actions were being taken in order to change that, primarily by enrolling more Roma children in school.

He repeated that Roma families that had been moved from shanty towns were given 18 apartments and all necessary documents, adding that the lack of IDs was a huge problem for Roma in Serbia.

The mayor pointed out that the city would continue to solve Roma problems but that not everybody could get an apartment “just because they live along the route of one bridge or another”.
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Serbia: Romani language needs to be standardized

BELGRADE – The collective rights of the Roma population will be fully exercised once the official use of the Romani language is ensured, it was concluded on Tuesday by participants of a conference on standardization of the Romani language.




In order to come into official use, the Romani language needs to be standardized, Vitomir Mihajlovic, president of the National Council of the Roma National Minority, stated at the conference in Belgrade.

He said that the necessary conditions have been created since the National Council of the Roma National Minority has been working on the standardization of the Romani language for decades.

Dragoljub Kojcic, director of the Institute for Textbook Publishing, said that language is part of the identity of every population including Roma, and added that the media, particularly the electronic ones, can contribute to the standardization of the Romani language.

OSCE Mission official Matthew Newton stated that in the last few years Serbia has made progress in promotion and inclusion of Roma.

The state institutions have made progress in the implementation of the strategy for the improvement of position of Roma since its adoption in 2009, Newton said.

He also said that regardless of the progress the social stands on the Roma community and other national issues are often based on stereotypes.

These stereotypes are often reflected in prejudice, discrimination and even violence, he warned and concluded that there is a long way ahead to change such social stands.
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Dutch underestimate the danger of itinerant Roma gangs. They are very professional, well-organized and trained criminals who steal commissioned.Utrecht criminologists state that this week in Vrij Nederland.

Pickpockets, car and shoplifters, skimmers, scammers, burglars, and beggars pose the biggest threat, according to researcher Dina Siegel.

These so-called mobile perpetrators are professional, well-organized, and trained criminals who steal commissioned. They know in advance exactly how much and what they want, what brand and type. The money earned is largely channeled back to their homeland, where it is invested in real estate and cars.

These are not criminal nomads who work for themselves, not a few Romanians who steal some mobile devices during Gay Pride. These people are sent to the Netherlands to steal three- to four hundred devices for the criminal market.The perpetrators perceive Dutch as ‘gullible’ people and ’naďve’ in life. They think because Netherlands is a multicultural country and nationals are accustomed to foreigners, they are not suspicious.

The Dutch Retail interest group reports a yearly loss of 250 million euro for the middle class, of which 206 million euros for shoplifting and between 40 and 50 million for store burglary.

Data from the police show that 21 percent of shoplifting is committed by mobile criminal groups from Central and Eastern Europe, of which Romanians make out the majority.

Siegel’s research shows almost all are Roma. She admits to the magazine that she breaks a taboo, but states it’s not her opinion, it’s an observation: pickpockets, beggars, and shoplifters are for the better part Roma.

The professor points to a letter of Minister Ivo Opstelten of Justice two years ago, in which he wondered if there was mobile banditry in the Netherlands. That was very naďve. She wants to make clear in this research its a huge problem still growing.

France and Spain have become more repressive, resulting in the Roma taking to the north.

Meanwhile, the National Police in the Netherlands are engaged in tackling crime of itinerant foreign gangs, according to the magazine.

Professor Siegel, associated with the Utrecht Willem Pompe Institute for Criminal Sciences, conducted her research into itinerant Eastern and Central European gangs in Netherlands last year.

Commissioned by Police & Science, a division of the Police Academy, the researcher and her team studied the composition of those gangs, the offenses, the method, the destination of the spoils and prevention and repressive measures of the government over the period 2008-2012.

They interviewed 127 stakeholders, including police officers, offenders, scientists, prisoners, and market vendors.
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Four Roma children die in fire in Rome

7 February 2011 | 16:33 | Source: Tanjug

ROME -- In an illegal Roma settlement in a Roma suburb, four children lost their lives in a fire, which renewed the debate on Roma living conditions in Italian capital.

Three boys and a girl, between three and eleven years of age died in their sleep, the police stated on Monday. The fire was most likely caused by the fire lit inside the building to keep the children warm.

They were all siblings of Romanian Roma nationality, which lived in vicinity of Via Appia Nuova, the police specified, and AP reported.

The Mayor of Rome Gianni Alemanno defined this accident a tragedy. He said that illegal camps must be shut down and promised new, safe legal building for the Roma.

According to the Italian daily Corriere della Sera, around 7,000 Roma live in Rome, almost half of which make minors.
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Note on the race of Gypsies...Eugene Pittard did the biggest anthropometric survey on balkan gypsies ever done....He was fascinated by them and placed them high in human aesthetics

http://books.google.at/books?id=qHUd...Gypsies&f=true

The typical Gypsy Population was slightly taller than the European Average with legs comparatively long in relation to the torso; their heads tended strongly towards dolicephalic (i.e long headed, relatively long and narrow) skulls, with black hair smallish ears, wide eyes with heavily pigmented irises and long, narrow, straight noses. Pittard awarded them a highly honourable place in human aesthetics. Very fine men and very beautiful women are often found among them. Their swarthy complexion, jet black hair, straight well-formed nose, white teeth, dark brown wide open eyes, the general suppleness of their deportment and the harmony of their movements place them high above many European people as regards physical beauty.
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Gypsy population distribution in Europe. East-central and Southeast Europe have it the worst!
Of course they do, they're closest to fucking shitskindia, where the original roach people seeped in from.

What boggles the mind, is how the White men of old allowed them to.
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...There were new reports of law enforcement officers resorting to unlawful use of firearms, and at least one person was killed in circumstances which are in breach of international standards. On 22 October, police officers of Bahna and Moldoveni, in the Buhusi region, organized an action to apprehend wood thieves. They found 11 Roma men who reportedly assaulted them. Twenty-four-year-old Mihai Nechifor was shot dead. "When they saw us the officer said ‘I have been looking for you for a long time’. My cousin who had a chainsaw in his hand was shot five times by the officer without any warning", stated Ilie Ciubotaru. Other reported incidents were described in a report Romania: Continuing reports of unlawful use of firearms by law enforcement officials (AI Index EUR 39/001/2005), published in January 2005...
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Aren't they just lovely



I think that Amerikwan liberals should give them a home. Somewhere on the beach as they prefer warm weather. Maybe Santa Monica California?
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...What boggles the mind, is how the White men of old allowed them to.
They came with the turks 600 years ago. Up to 20 years ago they were totally segregated, maybe that's why they were left alone. Whites here thought that would last forever...
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I'd have to say that Bulgaria is in the worst situation percentage-wise. Sheer numbers-wise, Romania has the most gypsies in Europe.

Even these numbers have been seriously reduced in the past 5 years, as hundreds of thousands of gypsies from Eastern Europe have now flooded western Europe. This EU joining business has been a blessing for East-Central and Southeast Europe from a racial point of view. However, it has been a curse for the UK and the rest of Northwestern Europe.

By density, Bulgarians have it the worst, because they have around 1 million gypsies out of a population of 7.5 million. They also have loads of other non-Europeans like Turks. FYROM itself isn't bright either, as it has around 200-250,000 Gypsies out of a population of 2 million.

Romania itself has around 2.5-3 million Gypsies out of a population of 22 million. Coupled with Moldova (population 4 million, around 50.000 gypsies), it reaches out at 3 million and a bit out of 26 million.

Bulgaria+FYROM = 1.25 million gypsies, 700.000 - 1 million turks and half a million Albanians out of 9.5 million.

Hungary itself also has around 800,000 Gypsies, Slovakia more than half a million, Serbia around 800.000.

Fucking plague!

Their overall numbers don't really scare me. What scares me is the age structure and birthrates of the Gypsies.

Gypsies as a whole are much younger then Euopeans, they have higher birthrates, they bear their children at earlier ages, and they have more women of reproductive age. In time they will continue to make up an ever expanding % of Europe's population.

If one were to look at a population pyramid of Gypsies in Bulgaria, Romania, and Hungary, etc. and other European countries it would closely resemble that of some nation in sub-Saharan Africa with a broad and wide bottom and a thinly declining top.

Basically, the only things that help to keep their numbers in check are their high infant mortality rates and low life expectancies due to the filthy and disgusting conditions they live in.
 
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Where are the Slovak promises to sterilize the Gypsies ?
 
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I cant believe he is really a roma gypsy. He looks very australoid like a aboriginal. Very ugly. Nothing like the gypsies i saw in the neighbourhoods and on TV.

He isnt for sure representive of how the average gypsy looks like. Only a few gypsies look like that. I guess the majority of gypsies when left India were caucasoids but a few were weddids.

some famous balkanic gypsies:

usnija (serbia)

esma (macedonia)

sofi (bulgaria)

irini (greece, only half gypsy though)

Anjeza (Albania)

Turkan (Turkey)

Reyhan

Rajko Djuric (Leader of Roma Union of Serbia)

Mădălin Voicu - (born 1952) Romanian politician. His father, Ion Voicu, is Romani

Grigoraş Dinicu (April 3, 1889 – March 28, 1949) was a Romanian Roma composer and violinist.
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The Roma Fall Victim to Western Europe’s Double Standards

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SOFIA—Small groups of accordion players are not an uncommon sight on the Paris and Brussels Metros. They make a living from the small change donated by passengers, one train and one day at a time. These street musicians are Roma taking advantage of their new status as citizens of all Europe. But they have a hard time doing it. Despite the commitments of Western European governments to uphold the rights of minorities in countries such as Romania and Bulgaria, they remain hostile to the Roma’s westward migration.

Today, there are more than 500 illegal Roma settlements in France and the authorities seize every chance to crack down on them. French officials — among others in Europe — claim that the Roma are forced west by discrimination and a lack of opportunity in their home countries. In mid-September, France’s Interior Minister Manuel Valls and European Affairs Minister Bernard Cazeneuve signed a bilateral agreement with Romania for the voluntary repatriation of illegal Roma immigrants from France. Plans to sign a similar agreement with Bulgaria were abandoned because of the comparatively small numbers of Bulgarian Roma migrants to France.

As recently as the summer of 2010, the French Socialists — together with the European Commission and the European Parliament — protested attempts by the Nicolas Sarkozy government to repatriate Roma immigrants, considering it an act of discrimination. It took only two years for them to cross the battle line. France under Francois Hollande’s Socialist government recently repatriated about 2,000 migrants to their homelands as part of a semi-voluntary procedure involving €300 welfare grants as rewards. Interior Minister Valls also publicly called upon Romania and Bulgaria to do more to integrate their minorities.

Hypocritical double standards — criticizing Eastern European governments for their failure to integrate the Roma while refusing to treat them as regular European citizens in the West — reduce the chances of resolving the issue. The institutional weaknesses of Eastern European governments have certainly deepened the problems faced by the Roma community. The education, professional training, employment, and crime reduction policies for vulnerable communities in post-communist states are simply inadequate. The Roma’s clan-based nomadic culture has also proved resistant to some serious attempts at modernization and integration into the mainstream societies of Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, and Slovakia.

The United States has long had its problems with its inner cities. Successive federal programs, starting with Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society, were focused on integrating poor, urban African-Americans into mainstream society. Ghettos still persist, but the success stories associated with U.S. racial minorities have increased. Europe’s ability to integrate its minorities has proved more problematic, despite the presence of sophisticated welfare networks and EU developmental programs. A growing number of non-European immigrants live in insulated communities in the cities of the Old Continent. They are recipients of generous welfare provisions, but they nevertheless refuse to integrate into the mainstream culture and society of their host nation.

The Roma may be Europe’s most significant internal migrant community. The weak post-communist governments of Eastern Europe — home to many Roma — have failed to produce and enforce efficient policies of integration. Western European governments and publics vocally support the rights of the Roma — but only as long as they remain in the East. Once they migrate West, they quickly lose the support of European liberals and advocates of multiculturalism.

It will obviously take considerable time and effort before the Roma issue is acknowledged as being a pan-European problem. The year 2005 saw the debut of a Europe-wide program — The Decade of Roma Inclusion — and it now nears its end with little evidence of success. Human rights advocates throughout Europe have vocally condemned discrimination against the Roma. But popular discriminatory behavior is only one side of the coin. The other is the inability of governments, European institutions, and civil society initiatives to successfully integrate the Roma communities into the modern world of contemporary Europe.

Ognyan Minchev is a non-resident fellow with the German Marshall Fund of the United States’ Balkan Trust for Democracy.

http://blog.gmfus.org/2012/10/05/the...ble-standards/
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