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Old July 27th, 2010 #1081
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Just to make my stance clear:

I have no FB/Myspace accounts, nor do I plan to open any. I do not frequent ANY other W.N. forums, nor do I plan to do so in the future.

I also will not visit the Free Edgar Steele-site, since I do not have the time to dig through the rabble there, or elsewhere - but if the proprietors/admins here on VNN give me the go-ahead, that it is thoroughly checked and cleared, I will gladly donate using any of the verified means - as soon as the dust settles.

I also share Mr Linder's concerns about the legal approach, yet understand, that even if Mr Steele was to guide his team himself, there is a need for a great deal of money in order to hire the "experts" needed in order to establish the "reasonable doubt" required by law for an acquittal.


All my best wishes to Mr Steele and his fam. My thoughts are with You.
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Old July 27th, 2010 #1082
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I've heard enough out of you Russ. But I'll leave the choice up to you. Either you start using your real name, which I will change for you, or you stop posting. I'm tired of your telling everyone what to do, and implying you know what Ed/his family think about all this. Either you're in or you're out. Quit fucking around clowning with us. You can't have it both ways.
Alex you are a paranoid idiot. I suspect it's you and many of these blog sites that is probably JDL in desguise. You run off at the mouth, then block the person from replying to your insanity. You are as bad as the Jew media you accuse of censoring everything they don't agree with. You do the same thing and you are on an ego trip.
Where are my posts Mr. Censor? And since you know my name then what is it. I guess I never knew my own damn name. You are a total idiot. First you are deleting anyone that puts anything negative on ed, like Mona, then you change your theory and start in on us that support Ed. You call yourself sane?
 
Old July 27th, 2010 #1083
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Alex....

Not to mention you're a controll freak that has a weak debate and takes people's words out of context. You need to censor because you damn sure cannot debate worth a shit!!!
 
Old July 27th, 2010 #1084
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Thumbs down Alex the JDL censor

And Alex, I never said I was a spokesman for the steele family...but I sure as hell would be a better one than you. My whole time on this board has been in support of Steele and family, so stop your crazy shit and get a life. I cannot help that I am smarter than you, that's just the way it is Alex. Now roll that up and smoke it. You need to apologize for your total stupidity, just like Donald needs to admit he was wrong. You guys are way too paranoid to attract anyone to this forum of stupidity. Maybe Giles is better than you, maybe he won't censor me/ perhaps I should give him a try. But probably he will not like me either because like you, he only cares about being king of the forum heap. This is not a discussion forum, it's a place for paranoids to play. yep, that's it.

Ok now you can go back to censoring and calling me names and telling me what my name is. ha ha ha ha ha ha...how goofy you are
 
Old July 27th, 2010 #1085
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Did Alex take a nap????
 
Old July 27th, 2010 #1086
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Question Ed needs to get his lawyer to file

Cindi needs to get a lawyer and file to have her portion of assets unfrozen including any silver or other things of value the feds took. She is entitled to half of all and she is not accused of any crime, so they have no valid reason to hold her part of the property or money. Here is a bit on community property states. I list this because it could be a way to get Ed a lawyer working now, instead of later. Defense in Ed's case should also file a quick 'motion to compel discovery' or they will withold evidence until the very last moment, leaving defense with little time to investigate. I don't know if that's been done or not yet.


Holding title to real property as Community Property is a type of ownership available to married couples only. There are currently nine states which offer Community Property status. These states are: Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington and Wisconsin. The "marital property act" defined Wisconsin as a community-property state, but individual circumstances will dictate how this act is interpreted.

The property laws in these nine states look at property purchased during a marriage as community property and both husband and wife have an equal right to possess the property during their marriage. In some states, upon the death of either spouse, the surviving spouse automatically receive half of the community property. With community property, neither spouse may sell his or her own share. To transfer the property to someone else, both husband and wife must sign the deed. When one spouse dies and leaves no will, the surviving spouse may acquire the property, but unlike joint tenancy, either spouse may will his half interest to others if he or she so chooses.

Community property laws may become complex, especially when dividing up assets upon a dissolution of the marriage. You may have heard of the divorced couple in which the ex husband filed for his share of the proceeds of the lottery winnings of his former wife. Apparently, his wife had won the lottery, while they were still married, and failed to tell her husband of her winnings. They then divorced and the wife did not reveal these lottery winnings as assets at the time of the dissolution. The husband found out some time later, filed for his share in court, and was awarded the full amount of the lottery money. This occurred in a Community Property state, where all assets of a married couple acquired during the marriage are considered "community property." If you have any doubts as to Community Property law in your state, you may want to consult with an attorney, to be certain what the implications are of holding title as community property.

YES Alex, I am trying to help again...you gonna call me a jew stooge again?
No good deed goes unpunished when dealing with morons. Ed found that out I would think. he puts his whole life on the line to be denied support from the very ones he tried to help. HOW IRONIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Old July 27th, 2010 #1087
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You (Linder)are a total idiot. First you are deleting anyone that puts anything negative on ed, like Mona, then you change your theory and start in on us that support Ed. You call yourself sane?
Mona Montgomery is a fruitcake (as I delineated earlier in this thread) and almost certainly a compensated stooge of the government, ADL, or some other "interested" organization.

There were others besides Mona that showed up at the same time--appeared mysteriously out of the woodwork--just to spin tales and tell lies in this thread (Hadding is an example).

You showed up at the same time--just for this thread--and appear to have unlimited time to post. Are you the "good cop" in what may be a good cop/bad cop game? Is your function to secure trust, to destroy from the inside?

If you care so much about Ed Steele, why come to the defense of Mona Montgomery, a revealed nut/probable government or jewish agent whose function here was to throw Ed under the proverbial bus?

What is your relationship to Mona Montgomery? Are you working for the same people? Who? What is your compensation? Is "Russ" one person, or a committee?
 
Old July 27th, 2010 #1088
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Did Alex take a nap????
Do you have a contract with an interested party to the Steele affair (federal government, ADL, SPLC, or others) that will be rendered void should you be removed from this board, cutting off your compensation or perhaps leaving you uncompensated for the investment of time you've made here?

Otherwise, why the hissy fit?

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Old July 27th, 2010 #1089
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The property laws in these nine states look at property purchased during a marriage as community property and both husband and wife have an equal right to possess the property during their marriage. In some states, upon the death of either spouse. . .
Mona Montgomery is in fact an attorney, who states her specialty (to the extent she actually practices) as elder abuse. You seem to have a very extensive, though surface deep, knowledge of the law, very similar to Mona Montgomery, who was graduated from a legal diploma mill and doesn't appear to actually practice.

Further, the points of law delineated above would be the sort of thing a putative specialist in elder law would be very familiar with.

Are you working with Mona Montgomery, whom you defended a few posts earlier in this thread? Are you Mona Montgomery?
 
Old July 27th, 2010 #1090
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Russ is out of here. If you want to show up and imply you're an insider and tell everybody else what to do - don't waste your time.
 
Old July 27th, 2010 #1091
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Well, ya dumbass, why isn't that FRONT AND CENTER on your website?
I'll work to correct this, SIR!

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Look, I understand you're a self important dweeb, and this is your big moment. But all your talk is so much blather: people don't care about you or your website, they want to know what's going on with Steele.
Yes, sir! Sorry for being not only a dweeb but a dumbass.

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Nowhere on there that I see do you say he's being FRAMED and SET UP by the FEDS and KIKES WHO RUN THEM. That's practically the only thing that matters. If that is what is going on, then the more noise you make, the better. Not all this retard shit about not talking or speculating. Being quiet won't help Steele one bit. Getting an attorney won't do anything either.
Got it, SIR!

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There needs to be clear, declarative statement from Ed that this is all a monstrous setup to silence him by the feds and their jewish handlers.
This dumbass dweeb is outta here. I ignored the voice in my head trying to tell me to steer clear of VNN and it's denizens.

I will run your suggestion by people close to the case, and pass it on to the family.

Before I'm gone, think on this. You and your followers have no shortage of opinions and "frickin' jerk, this is what you must do" (essentially directed to Steele, though the worthless, dumbass FES site feels the heat as well). I'd love to see you in a critical personal crisis situation, to watch just how accepting you are of strangers (and/or friends) repeated, emphatic "Linder - 'ya moron - here's the way to deal with your problems". That coming from not one person, but a gaggle of angry, alpha-dog experts.

Yes, I'm a pussy, I'm a spineless slug - not telling the Steele family WHAT THEY GODDAMN BETTER DO - because that's what I think and I know it best. And boy, they had better tow the line when I do tell them the way it will be.

Tomorrow in Coeur d'Alene, ID, Mr. Steele will be present at a public court hearing. Also present will be Kelsey, as well as an entourage of dumbass dweebs whose support of the man is less effective than a handful of 3rd graders. More details on the FES site, as sorry-ass as it is. I don't know if any other of the Steele family will be there, but whoever shows up, I'll make sure they get the VNN message.

I pass this on with the hope one or more pro-Linder VNN'ers will show up. Find the big guy, get right up in my face with your colorful explicatives. We'll have us a great chat.
 
Old July 27th, 2010 #1092
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Here's a simple and low cost way to resolve this issue once and for all. One of the Steele family needs to go to the local post office and rent a p.o. box where people can send checks or money orders for Edgar Steele's legal defense.

It will cost $21 for six months and shouldn't compromise anyone's privacy or security. This should also remove any doubt as to who is behind the various names, handles, and online websites.
 
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I'll work to correct this, SIR!
Instead of sarcasm and condescension, how about listening to someone who knows what he's talking about. Like most amateurs, you're writing out of your head, with no consideration for who is reading you and what they want/need to know. You'd better focus on that to have any effect. No one who doesn't know Steele going in will have a clue what's going on from your site. It's vague, confused, leads nowhere. What needs to be done is to set the context to get readers to understand, feel something, and get involved. You fail on all counts. But don't let that fact interfere with your typical mix of self-pity and -praise.

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This dumbass dweeb is outta here. I ignored the voice in my head trying to tell me to steer clear of VNN and it's denizens.
Yeah, run, you weak loser. Typical asswipe can't put what he's doing ahead of his feelings.

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I will run your suggestion by people close to the case, and pass it on to the family.
I'll repeat what I said. IF she believes he intended to murder her, then she should say that in court. IF she believes he did not, and is being set up, she needs to express that in the loudest possible terms, to any who will listen. We will help her however she needs on this front. If someone is trying to scare her, the thing to do is not what the threatener wants: freeze and hide, but to move forward, loudly, and make all known. If his own family is quiet, defensive, scared, that's not going to encourage followers.

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Before I'm gone, think on this. You and your followers have no shortage of opinions and "frickin' jerk, this is what you must do" (essentially directed to Steele, though the worthless, dumbass FES site feels the heat as well). I'd love to see you in a critical personal crisis situation, to watch just how accepting you are of strangers (and/or friends) repeated, emphatic "Linder - 'ya moron - here's the way to deal with your problems". That coming from not one person, but a gaggle of angry, alpha-dog experts.
You came here. You're asking for support and money. I'm telling you what needs to be done on Steele's end. I can tell from your website you haven't a clue. I can tell from your words you're exactly what I said.

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Yes, I'm a pussy, I'm a spineless slug - not telling the Steele family WHAT THEY GODDAMN BETTER DO - because that's what I think and I know it best. And boy, they had better tow the line when I do tell them the way it will be.
You're not capable of figuring out what's best, that's obvious from your blog. Not that you realize it, of course.

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Tomorrow in Coeur d'Alene, ID, Mr. Steele will be present at a public court hearing. Also present will be Kelsey, as well as an entourage of dumbass dweebs whose support of the man is less effective than a handful of 3rd graders. More details on the FES site, as sorry-ass as it is. I don't know if any other of the Steele family will be there, but whoever shows up, I'll make sure they get the VNN message.

I pass this on with the hope one or more pro-Linder VNN'ers will show up. Find the big guy, get right up in my face with your colorful explicatives. We'll have us a great chat.
You'd better get a clear, declarative response from Ed, his wife, and his friends and family, because until that happens, support will be only lukewarm. If the wife isn't willing to say publicly that this charge is completely bogus, then something is wrong. If she's afraid to make that statement because feds, jews, or anyone, has threatened her, then that needs to be made public too. Until that happens, my mind is open about what's going on here. I don't speak or act for others here, but experience shows that turning lumps of money over to lawyers is no guarantee of anything except that money not coming back.
 
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You'd better get a clear, declarative response from Ed, his wife, and his friends and family, because until that happens, support will be only lukewarm. If the wife isn't willing to say publicly that this charge is completely bogus, then something is wrong. If she's afraid to make that statement because feds, jews, or anyone, has threatened her, then that needs to be made public too. Until that happens, my mind is open about what's going on here. I don't speak or act for others here, but experience shows that turning lumps of money over to lawyers is no guarantee of anything except that money not coming back.
Mr Linder is on target here. I gave to the $50,000 fund for Chester Doles which was squandered on the lawyer Bob Barr. All the scumbag did was to plead his client guilty. Doles would have been much better off to defend himself.

Steele should fire that worthless public pretender of his and conduct his own defense. They have to give him access to long distance telephone and clerical help. He can also interview all witnesses. As it is, he is locked up with one call per week to his public pretender.
 
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Steele should fire that worthless public pretender of his and conduct his own defense. They have to give him access to long distance telephone and clerical help. He can also interview all witnesses. As it is, he is locked up with one call per week to his public pretender.
The man who serves as his own attorney has a fool for a client but does a man who's been shot and performs first-aid on himself also have a fool for a patient?

Steele is bleeding and he needs to apply direct pressure on the wound.

Yes, he needs to fire his Public negotiator. The only thing they know about trials is that the DA will be upset with them for 'wasting the taxpayers money'. They're not trial lawyers and they know it.

Steele should be forcing the prosecution to answer his many justifiable writs by now in open court hearings.
Not only for the reason Mr. Pauley mentions but most important at this point is his right under the 8th amendment.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Make the US attorney's office answer to why an officer of the court, a member in good standing with his state's BAR association, a stable family man with no history of violence and no criminal record, a man who has lived in his own home for many years and is a well respected member of his community should be denied bail.

The best defense for him right now would be a good offense.
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The man who serves as his own attorney has a fool for a client but does a man who's been shot and performs first-aid on himself also have a fool for a patient?
Mike is ignorant of the origin of this saying. It comes from old Honest Abe Lincoln who was a high priced railroad lawyer. The most important case that he tried in his life was suing a railroad for attorneys fees. He didn't follow his own advice. He acted as his own lawyer and won. The $5,000 that he won then is $250,000 in current Jew money.

The situation in a gun shot is far different, depending on the location of the wound. First aid should be performed by the patient if possible. Several years back, a Russian doctor winter bound in Antarctica removed his own appendix successfully. If you are a reasonably good doctor you want to treat your own wound before you pay a quack to do it.

Steele is coming to grips with the fact that lawyers can't afford each other. Pauly's law is that any lawyer that you can afford is not worth having. There are no exceptions to that law. I have saved myself tens of thousands of dollars over the years by acting as my own attorney and have a track record of 70% success. I have cost the other side dearly in every case.

Acting as your own attorney in a civil case gives you a big advantage over your opponent if they have to pay a lawyer. You can bankrupt them by delaying tactics. If you are in a criminal case provisions have to be made for you to conduct your defense. Time spent in a law library is far cheaper than allowing a scum sucking lawyer to bankrupt you. The so called skill of lawyers is greatly overrated.
 
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They’re treating Edgar Steele like he’s an OJ.

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OJ trial was a soap opera that lasted over a year on TV and was the talk of the town.I remember where I was on the day of the verdict. The nation was glued on TV.
OJ isn't your average nigga looking. A celebrity.
The psychological impact it has had in general with photos showing Nicole Simpson throat slashed that new laws were passed. I know a guy who went to jail because of his mate over a telephone conversation quarrel.
 
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Make the US attorney's office answer to why an officer of the court, a member in good standing with his state's BAR association, a stable family man with no history of violence and no criminal record, a man who has lived in his own home for many years and is a well respected member of his community should be denied bail.
But the courts routinely let out murdering niggers on bail with long rap sheets. At least they do here.
 
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I remember where I was on the day of the verdict. The nation was glued on TV.
I was in a nigger infested jail serving county time for stacked charges brought because I refused to plea bargain on only one misdemeanor charge that should have been dismissed.

That's where my racial awakening began. I was fully awakened on VNN some years later.

As far as the 'OJ' verdict goes I was somewhat relieved that he was acquitted as I'm certain the niggers would have expressed their niggerly nature.
 
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