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Found a literal mother lode of ammunition and tactical firearms today. I made a significant purchase.
.223 Hornady 55gr FMJ, 500 rounds for $400 ($0.80 ppr) .308 FMJ, 1000 rounds for $1000 ($1.00 ppr) .40 S&W, name your brand, JHP 9mm, Federal Guard Dog 105 gr, Remington Golden Saber 124 gr, name your brand FMJ. .380, 10mm, .45acp, .44 mag, .38 special - fully stocked, name your brand. Tactical semi-automatics all over the shelves, .22lr, 9mm, 7.62x39, 5.56, and 7.62x51. .50 BMG, single shot, bolt action, semi-auto The place was a mad house. One guy was there from Colorado - purchasing 6 tactical semi-automatics - cash. Buckeye Firearms - Rogers, Ohio. http://buckeyefirearmsohio.com/Rogers.html |
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Holy fucking hell.
Wolf brand, .22lr, box of 500 on the shelf. $94.99! Six months ago, I was buying them for $24.99 at the same place. |
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.308 Win are hard to find, and when you can, the prices are outrageous now.
I did pick up a box of Hornady Z-max in the .308 Win. I don't think the small shop knew what they had, because I got them for a song and a dance. If you don't know, Hornady's Z-max (Zombie Ammunition) is real ammo, just with the zombie gimmick. The centerfire rounds are the same as the A-max (proven high quality bullet design), just with a green polymer ballistic tip instead of a red one. Last edited by Mr A.Anderson; March 3rd, 2013 at 09:18 AM. |
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Yesterday, there were slim pickings on the 9mm shelves at my local shop. I did buy a box of Speer Gold Dot 115 gr JHP for $26.99.
Today, the shelves were almost completely bare for the 9mm. All that was left was Federal Hydro-shok and Guard Dog - both of which are completely shit rounds. If you don't have enough, go to the stores now! DHS ordered another 11+ Million rounds of 9mm last month! The top 2 shelves were 9mm. The bottom shelf is .357 Sig and .38 special. Last edited by Mr A.Anderson; March 3rd, 2013 at 11:41 PM. |
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Went to a few shops today. 9mm, .40 S&W, and .22lr are non existant. I did find some 5.56 and .223 suprisingly, limit 100 rounds per customer at $12.99 a box 20 count. .308 Win has reappeared, $30-$50 a box of 20.
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Federal 9mm, 115gr FMJ, brass casing, 100 count for $25. Talking with the sales lady, I found that Walmart still offers ammunition at uninflated prices, although it limits the amount of ammunition a customer can buy in a 24 hr time period to 3 boxes. The key is......being there when it hits the shelves, because it sells out immediately. After some small talk, I found that my local store usually recieves a shipment of ammunition (they never know how much or in what calibers) on a weekly basis, and is stocked overnight. If you are an early bird, make stopping by your local Walmart sporting goods section part of your early morning routine, and you can score ammunition at pre-shortage prices. |
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I totally agree that there is an all out war on ammunition.
The Obama administration is shredding all the military breaa. The move to ban lead has been in the works for at least the 20 years that I have been paying attention. Ammunition made of Bismuth has been available in the US for at least 10 years.
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There is a myriad of lead free bullets/ammunition out there, to include expanding/self defense/hunting rounds. They are more expensive, and have always been poorly stocked on the shelves......so at least there is that.
http://www.barnesbullets.com/ http://site.cuttingedgebullets.com/ http://www.nosler.com/ballistic-tip-lead-free/ |
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M855A1 is leadless. Although currently not sold commercially, it will chamber in a 5.56mm platform, and is an utterly devastating round.
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Save your old lead tire weights, and see if you can get a few buckets of them from your auto wrecking yards. Barring that.....save up on old pennies (pre 1982) that you can smelt down and mold yourself. |
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The last couple of buckets I got from local tire stores have ran about 25% zinc weights. It is a good idea to pick them out before melting down the lead. I have a propane fired turkey cooker I use, with a stainless steel bucket to melt them in. I clean all the crap out, remove the zinc and iron weights, melt the lead and flux hell out of it with either commercial flux or beeswax, then sprinkle some sawdust on top and stir the liquid lead while the sawdust turns into carbon and skim that off. Then I pour the lead in various ingot molds. My favorite is a cast iron cornbread cooker that casts a Pb (lead) ingot of about a pound or so in the shape of an ear of corn. Almost anything like that will work, the goal is to make an ingot that easily fits into a store-bought lead furnace, either RCBS, Lyman, or Lee. You do NOT want to melt any of the Zn weights into the lead, it WILL fuck up your alloy, bullets with Zn come out all wrinkled. Fortunately they are easy to spot, they will have the letters "Zn" on them. Also Zn has a bit higher melting point, not much higher but enough that you can catch the Zn weights when you melt the wheel weights down. You have to skim the steel clips out of the molten Pb and any weights that haven't melted yet will probably be zinc, or iron (Fe). I also segregate out the glue on weights before melting, they are pure lead and are great for muzzle loaders. The normal wheel weights are an alloy of mostly lead with a bit of antimony and tin, and they make an excellent bullet. I usually water drop them from the bullet mold into a 5 gallon bucket of water, this hardens them. Years ago I stocked up on several hundred pounds of linotype which I use sometimes to harden the bullets a bit more. Linotype is lead with a big dose of Sn (tin) and Sb (antimony). A little bit of linotype mixed into wheel weight alloy makes the bullets cast easier. Linotype is hard to get these days because that type of printing is history. Pure tin is easily available, but is rather costly. I stocked up on it years ago. But pure wheel weight alloy works on its own so if you don't have any linotype or tin you can still cast good bullets. I cast for several calibers, including rifles, .30-06, .35 Whelen, 7.62 X 54 for Mosen Nagants, K31 Swiss, .25-20 (neat little caliber but almost obsolete). My handguns I shoot cast bullets exclusively. Rifle calibers you usually have to slow down the Muzzle velocity so it doesn't lead up your barrel but I make up for that by using a heavier bullet. A 210 grain flat nosed bullet (LBT style) at 1800-2000 fps is nothing to take lightly. I don't cast anything smaller than .25 because dinky little .223 bullets are hard to cast well.
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The situation may not be as dire as initially feared:
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As long as we continue to import lead from China, there won't be any problems. If China decides to jack up the prices of lead, or stop importing, every manufacturing process that requires lead in this country is fucked. I do believe that has been what people have been saying. For some reason, people thought that once this plant shut down, there wouldn't be any more lead at all? |
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We have plenty of our own lead, and as that article stated, newer, smaller, lead smelters coming online and are technologically-equipped to satisfy domestic lead demands (of which firearms ammunition only ever constituted a small fraction) while meeting EPA's goofy standards. This looks to me like the ammunition industry was looking for any vague excuse to jack up market prices.
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22 cal bullits are dirt cheap stock up get solid points if you get hollow points that's ok rub feces into the hollow tips the infections will be epic " it just be a flesh wound homey" but in 36 hours the bacteria will be a serious motherfucker In combat wounding is in many cases better than a kill ..the perps homeys will mostly try to help homey and then you can get off more shots :0 Also there is the " oh damn homey I bees hit fuck it hurts fuckin bad mofo helps me " :0 The psychological factor is a real motherfucker ..The perps are looking for soft targets and if they see they bruders whining they will say " Oh hell na tem crackers be crazy mofos lets move on niggas " I'm military trained and have seen the real shit
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The Ammo Shortage of 2013
We have seen the enemy, and it is us Posted June 12, 2013 in Shooting by Pat Cascio with 326 Comments I’ve been a gun writer for more than 20-years now, and during that time I’ve developed some excellent contacts in the firearms and ammo industries. Recently, I talked to some of these folks and asked them about the ongoing ammo shortage that’s still keeping avid shooters and weekend plinkers alike from doing what they love: sending lead down-range. I learned that though there are a number of different factors contributing to the current ammo shortage, the main reason there’s a shortage is because there’s a shortage. In other words, we’re in the midst of an old-fashioned panic. Some shooters locate the blame for the current state of affairs in DC, and conspiracy theories abound about the government buying up all the ammo for one shady reason or another. But those theories are wrong, according to the ammo makers I’ve talked to. Sure, the post-Newtown rush to “Do Something!” may have created the climate of fear and uncertainty that initially sparked the current panic, but that panic has now taken on a life of its own and is feeding back into itself. At this point, everybody is panic buying because everybody is panic buying, which means that the shortage won’t stop until the panic subsides. Ammo makers: won’t get fooled again You might think that the ammo makers are having a field day with the panic buying, but surges like this aren’t quite the windfall that you might think they are for the ammo industry. The ammo makers are turning out ammo as fast as they can, some of the big name ammo makers I’ve talked to are literally running 24/7. They’re also adding more machines and training more personnel to try and meet the demand. But in ramping up capacity, they’re taking on more risk. When the panic dies down, demand could tank, and then the layoffs will start and all that new capacity will go idle. If this happens, then the ammo makers will have wasted millions in buying machinery and training people to use it. The only way to recover that investment will be to raise the prices on ammunition — something we don’t want to see, nor do they want to do. Some smaller ammo makers have already fallen by the wayside because they can’t get enough raw materials and components to keep up with demand. The biggest shortages we are seeing right now is .22 LR and 9mm, and many makers can’t come up with the brass, primers, bullets, and powder to make any more of these popular ammo types. And the shortages are getting worse with each passing day. Many ammo makers have been forced to raise their prices because the cost of components have risen, especially copper for making bullets. Some other ammo makers that I know have gone above and beyond to seek out components, and because they were forced to pay more they in turn had to raise prices. But they only raised their prices by the amounts they are having to pay to get the needed components. My sources tell me that if things stay the way they are, that it will be between 18 months and 2 years before they can catch-up on back orders. And this is assuming that things don’t take a turn for the worse. All we need is another mass shooting or terrorist attack and there will be more talk of gun and ammo controls, which will bring on another round of panic buying, longer waits, higher prices and more shortages. While local gun shops have been enjoying a brisk run on guns and ammo, they don’t like the shortages any more than you and I do. My local gun shop was down to a dozen handguns not too long ago, and couldn’t find any from any of their distributors. Luckily, the supply lines have started filling up again, but only for some guns. (I understand that Ruger has a backlog of 2 million guns, and I heard that GLOCK has about a million guns on back-order — it will take them a while to get caught-up, as some guns are in more demand than others.) The ammo shortage is hurting gun shop owners, because when a gun shop does have some guns to sell, people aren’t buying them because there isn’t any ammo to available for them. I mean, really? Why purchase a gun if you can’t find any ammo for it? Not a good situation at all. There are some on-line and mail-order companies who have taken advantage of the shortages, especially in regards to ammo, and are charging outrageous prices. I won’t mention names, but one is getting a very bad reputation on the Internet, and a lot of people, myself included, will no longer do business with them. Sure, they have ammo, because they had the money to stock-up on hundreds of millions of rounds. But who in their right mind is willing to pay more than a buck a round for 9mm low-grade ammo these days? Well, that’s what one place is charging, and as much as $3.00 per round for common (not premium) JHP 9mm ammo. When you find a place like this, don’t do business with them. You can find ammo if you spend the time looking, and, needless to say, you will be paying more, but there’s no sense in getting ripped off by a greedy on-line or mail-order company taking advantage of the situation. The solution: stop hoarding ammo I took my crystal ball out, and most of the time it is working properly, and my prediction is that I honestly don’t know if things will ever go back to being normal in the ammo world if we don’t change our buying habits. Look, if you don’t absolutely need ammo, then don’t buy it right now. Give the ammo makers a chance to make some kind of attempt at catching-up with the demand. I have absolutely cut back on the number or rounds I use in my gun test articles. I used to burn through 500 rounds or more in my tests, but these days, I’m cutting back to around 200 rounds for a gun test. And, if your local gun shop or big box store has a limit on the number of boxes of ammo you can purchase at one time, then only buy that much – don’t send your wife, husband or friends in to buy more ammo for you, because that’s only hurting us all. Gun shops don’t like rationing ammo, either — it’s something they have to do these days, so they will have ammo for all their customers. Yes, I understand, no one wants to get caught with their pants down, and not have enough ammo. But then again, can you define what “enough” ammo is? Let’s see if we can’t turn the tide, and start buying ammo the way we used to: slow down, and don’t hoard it - See more at: http://www.alloutdoor.com/2013/06/12....tzvcbjuu.dpuf |
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Got a few boxes of Speer 325gr .480 Ruger for Christmas. Friends and family will agree that I must be the easiest person in the world to shop for.
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It does make shopping easy...
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