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Old September 5th, 2011 #81
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The long haired lampost looks the main man he is never looking at the boss but watching the distance.
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Old September 5th, 2011 #82
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The long haired lampost looks the main man he is never looking at the boss but watching the distance.
Possibly. He's here again in a video. At 8 seconds-ish you see two others move some bloke away and you see the long haired guy look over and start mouthing at 16 secs just before the police turn up. After that, he's constantly scanning the crowd. I haven't listened to it, just watched it so don't know what's going off. I think that might be the other guy on his right side as well.

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Old September 6th, 2011 #83
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Default 9/11 - why is this being allowed to go ahead?

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Demonstrators from Muslims Against Crusades, whose website shows a graphic of a plane heading towards New York’s Twin Towers, say they will make as much noise as possible during the planned mark of respect for the dead.

The demonstration is an attempt to show that the US has lost the war on terror, said fundamentalist cleric Anjem Choudary.

He said Muslims Against Crusades would be joined by Shariah 4 America outside the embassy in Grosvenor Square on the tenth anniversary of the attacks.

He said: ‘We will be holding a big demonstration and it’s going to begin at the time the first plane hit the building – when everybody is holding their minute’s silence.

‘We will be very noisy during that time. It will be to expose the crimes of the American government over the past ten years and showing how they have failed.

‘They have lost the war against terror. All of their concepts of freedom and democracy have been run roughshod over and been replaced with extraordinary rendition and policies which mean people don’t have rights any more.’

He went on: ‘We are going to be asking were the 19 [hijackers] martyrs? Were the 3,000 [people killed] innocent?’
Read more: h t t p://www.metro.co.uk/news/874435-muslims-against-crusades-plan-protest-in-9-11-minute-s-silence#ixzz1XC1tN7i

I'm not posting this to get into an argument about "who dun 9/11" (but feel free if you so wish) but the official story is that muslims dun 9/11. So that being the case, why is this being allowed to go ahead?

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On the upcoming tenth anniversary of the events on 9/11 we can clearly see that the American led so-called ‘war on terrorism’ has been a miserable failure. Whichever way we assess it the war has been lost by the US and those allied with them around the world. Instead of decreasing the risk of another 9/11, the chances of another 9/11 is today more likely than it has ever been. Rather than securing Iraq and Afghanistan, those regions together with a whole host of others in the Muslim world are today vying with each other to implement the Shari’ah, engage in Jihad and to end the hegemony of the capitalist camp. In fact 10 years on from 9/11 one could almost claim total victory for the Mujahideen fighting against their sworn enemies.

Many factors have contributed to this scenario not least the fact that George Bush started the campaign with the notorious words ‘You are either with us or with the terrorists’ and that he would be engaged in ‘this crusade’. The attempt to win the hearts and minds of Muslims has failed not to mention those of the non-Muslims who have witnessed for themselves the torture, murder and oppression by those who were supposed to be the bastions of freedom, democracy and liberty.

The lies from Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and Blair over Iraq meant that the only weapons of mass destruction discovered there were the ones the US and UK themselves dropped on the innocent civilian population. Freedom from torture, innocence until proven guilty and a fair trial have ten years on been replaced with euphemisms such as the interests of security, non-combatants and extraordinary rendition. Far from protecting innocent civilians from the brutal dictators such as Saddam Hussain, who used to clumsily murder, abuse and humiliate his own citizens, today the US led alliance have happily taken over the role of oppressor themselves manifest in Guantanamo Bay, Bagram air base and Abu Guraib where such injustices are meted out much more openly and meticulously.

With the forced total withdrawal of all US led forces from Muslim land on the horizon Obama’s attempt to save face by making a big deal over the death of Sheikh Usama Bin Laden has also backfired by further fuelling those fighting the crusader camp who have promised at least 100 operations as revenge and by sending back a tormenting message that another 100 Bin Ladens are queuing up to take over the role of America’s enemy number one.

Add to all this the ravenous way in which the war has destroyed the US economy, the many anti-war groups and bodies creating public opinion against the war, the unprecedented rates of soldier suicides, the global contempt for the US and the UK caused by the war, the spread of Al-Qaeda’s ideology among the Muslim youth like a tsunami and one can conclude that the humiliating defeat is effectively complete.

Ironically in the last ten years the biggest factor in radicalising the youth, inciting Muslims to carry out more suicide bombings against the US and its allies and pushing Muslims towards a much more fundamental and uncompromising understanding of Islam has been the actions of those who had meant to bring these to an end. History will record that the beginning of the end of the American empire and the seeds for the re-establishment of an Islamic State among Muslims began on the 11th of September 2001.

Mr Anjem Choudary
Former UK Head of Al-Muhajiroun & Manager of the Shari’ah Court of the UK
Contact 07956 600 569 for more details
h t t p://www.anjemchoudary.com/press-releases/10-years-on-and-the-usa-has-lost-the-war
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Old September 6th, 2011 #84
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Just watch the intro graphics on h t t p://www.muslimsagainstcrusades.com/ . How come the police haven't had a few words about this?
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Old September 6th, 2011 #85
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Yes lampost is his main man,like most joes he probably thinks the crowd is enough (How many joes can fit in a people carrier ?)
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Hence my interest in this chowdrey blighter.
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Just watch the intro graphics on h t t p://www.muslimsagainstcrusades.com/ . How come the police haven't had a few words about this?
Saw this last week, surely worthy of a pull
 
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There is no question in my mind that Anjem Choudary is an MI5 operative. His MAC organisation is the puppet Judy, with Punch the EDL puppet. Every puppet has a string puller, and both these organisations feed of each other. When one organisation holds a demo, the other turns up. Just like a real Punch and Judy show.

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He has to be either an agent or a useful tool.
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He has to be either an agent or a useful tool.
I personally intend to verify whether or not he has police protection on his way to the ceremony.
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I personally intend to verify whether or not he has police protection on his way to the ceremony.
A fiver says you won't find out. My bet is that if he has, they will be muslim policemen, dressed just like himself and completely undistinguishable from the rest of his entourage.
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A fiver says you won't find out. My bet is that if he has, they will be muslim policemen, dressed just like himself and completely undistinguishable from the rest of his entourage.
Of course lampost is MI5 he has a Northface windbreaker.I will be verifying whether or not his people carrier is escorted to its pre arranged parking space by the police.As current the joes believe they are going en mass via the central line or if blocked jubilee line
to bond street.No doubt picking up a few more supporters from primark and the edgeware road they intend marching across the Grosvenor estate to the memorial garden to disrupt the minutes silence.
Now thats all well and good but chowdrey and his closest henchmen are due to park in xxxxx street at the xxxxxx car park of all things and walk up to the square and their supporters.Now the space has been publicised they may select a different one but sure as eggs are eggs (even in packs of nine) this chowdrey blighter is coming in a vehicle that has to be parked either south or east of the square.Now if there was no police involvement he could park anywhere he likes or be dropped off but he aint.Just like the other Vips he is being allocated a parking space.
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Of course lampost is MI5 he has a Northface windbreaker.I will be verifying whether or not his people carrier is escorted to its pre arranged parking space by the police.As current the joes believe they are going en mass via the central line or if blocked jubilee line
to bond street.No doubt picking up a few more supporters from primark and the edgeware road they intend marching across the Grosvenor estate to the memorial garden to disrupt the minutes silence.
Now thats all well and good but chowdrey and his closest henchmen are due to park in xxxxx street at the xxxxxx car park of all things and walk up to the square and their supporters.Now the space has been publicised they may select a different one but sure as eggs are eggs (even in packs of nine) this chowdrey blighter is coming in a vehicle that has to be parked either south or east of the square.Now if there was no police involvement he could park anywhere he likes or be dropped off but he aint.Just like the other Vips he is being allocated a parking space.
I thought Theresa May had banned all marches in London for 30 days? That's still in force as far as I know so if you know for stone-cold fact that they're marching, I feel an FOI coming on.

I suspect the parking advertisement is a red herring - he ain't stupid enough to advertise it and then do it. Unless that car park has some damn good cameras/security or he has someone or several someones watching it, he isn't parking where he claims he is. If there were a few of you with local knowledge and you have an idea of what his car looks like, you should be able to ascertain where he parks and whether he has an escort. The other option is of course to wait til the show's over and follow him back and see who's been car-minding while he's been yawping.
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I thought Theresa May had banned all marches in London for 30 days? That's still in force as far as I know so if you know for stone-cold fact that they're marching, I feel an FOI coming on.

I suspect the parking advertisement is a red herring - he ain't stupid enough to advertise it and then do it. Unless that car park has some damn good cameras/security or he has someone or several someones watching it, he isn't parking where he claims he is. If there were a few of you with local knowledge and you have an idea of what his car looks like, you should be able to ascertain where he parks and whether he has an escort. The other option is of course to wait til the show's over and follow him back and see who's been car-minding while he's been yawping.
They are not marching they are commuting and can claim they are on their way to regents park mosque and the various joe hang outs in the edgeware road.He has not advertised his parking arrangements I have.At least the ones they had in place before I put it up.
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They are not marching they are commuting and can claim they are on their way to regents park mosque and the various joe hang outs in the edgeware road.He has not advertised his parking arrangements I have.At least the ones they had in place before I put it up.
Ah, my mistake. I took your saying "marching across the Grosvenor estate" as a literal, organised march not a general wander across to the venue type thing.

If there is the slightest sniff of an organised, formal march, and they don't put a rapid stop to it, we can only draw conclusions. I mean, when all's said and done, whether you're in the 19-muslims-with-box-cutters-dun-it or jews-dun-it camp or even in the it-was-all-an-optical-illusion-caused-by-ET camp, thousands of people still died and I don't hold with all this "necessary casualty" crap that I've heard others come out with. Those people still had families and lives and to allow this deliberate breaking of a mark of respect is wrong on all counts and that's why, even though I oppose the war, I also oppose this shower of disrespectful c**ts. If they truly believe that their 19 comrades with box cutters were innocent, this is the wrong way to go about getting their story heard.
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Yes lampost is his main man,like most joes he probably thinks the crowd is enough (How many joes can fit in a people carrier ?)
If its a 7 seater.6,000,007.As long as the ash trays are all in good order.
 
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Muslims Against Crusades will be banned from operating in the UK from midnight - Home Secretary Theresa May

Of course, they've only done it in order to try and stop tomorrow's massive multi-party/group protest but still an excellent development. Watch 'em spring up again like mushrooms under a new name.
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An extremist Muslim group who burned poppies on Armistice Day have been banned in the UK.

Home Secretary Theresa May announced the Muslims Against Crusades (MAC) organisation would be outlawed from midnight tonight.

Ms May said MAC "simply another name for an organisation already proscribed under a number of names".

The decision means anybody who is a member of, or supports the organisation is committing a criminal offence.

More follows.
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16107674


Hell for Heroes - cancelled. Lol.

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Old November 10th, 2011 #100
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In one way its a shame they wont be protesting as it might just might make the sheeple wake up,then again.
 
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