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Old August 1st, 2018 #1
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Woodpecker Thoughts on Tommy Robinson

I’ve always been sort of neutral on him. I see him as a pro Zionist Civic Nationalist, like Anne Marie Waters and her For Britain Party. I don’t believe he is a state plant, after what they’ve put him through over the years. Maybe the state sees civic nationalism as the next real threat, since racial nationalism is on the back foot ..... thoughts ?
 
Old August 2nd, 2018 #2
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I’ve always been sort of neutral on him. I see him as a pro Zionist Civic Nationalist, like Anne Marie Waters and her For Britain Party. I don’t believe he is a state plant, after what they’ve put him through over the years. Maybe the state sees civic nationalism as the next real threat, since racial nationalism is on the back foot ..... thoughts ?
Well whatever his is/isn`t, he`s most definitely not remotely pro-White, indeed, he`s violently opposed to pro-White nationalism with, I believe, a criminal conviction in that regard!
Also, he makes great efforts to please the "gay"/tranny gender bender "community" which makes me wonder whether he`s `going the wrong way up the motorway` despite being married!
All in all not impressed; whether our side can make use of him is yet to be decided, I "hay me doots"!
 
Old August 2nd, 2018 #4
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Hey Gerry Fable,

We want homelands for the various European nations in much the same way Israel is a homeland for Jews, no? If Jews or pro-Israel folks support us in this endeavor, all the better.
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Old August 2nd, 2018 #5
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Hey Gerry Fable,

We want homelands for the various European nations in much the same way Israel is a homeland for Jews, no? If Jews or pro-Israel folks support us in this endeavor, all the better.
The NeoCons want a conflict in the West between Islam and Europeans in order to facilitate and justify a war in the Middle East on behalf of Israel using Goy boots on the ground in down town Tehran.

The Israelis don't support European alt-right nationalist organisations out of mutual nationalist sentiment but entirely for nefarious reasons, political expediency, or realpolik. To further Israeli hegemony in the Middle East.


As soon as the Zionist led Alt-right has served its purpose it will be disposed of as quickly as it was embraced.


The Pied Piper of Zion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=4sGpRYSXKBw
 
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The NeoCons want a conflict in the West between Islam and Europeans in order to facilitate and justify a war in the Middle East on behalf of Israel using Goy boots on the ground in down town Tehran.

The Israelis don't support European alt-right nationalist organisations out of mutual nationalist sentiment but entirely for nefarious reasons, political expediency, or realpolik. To further Israeli hegemony in the Middle East.


As soon as the Zionist led Alt-right has served its purpose it will be disposed of as quickly as it was embraced.


The Pied Piper of Zion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=4sGpRYSXKBw
Spot on as usual Mr.Fable.
 
Old August 2nd, 2018 #7
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The NeoCons want a conflict in the West between Islam and Europeans in order to facilitate and justify a war in the Middle East on behalf of Israel using Goy boots on the ground in down town Tehran.

The Israelis don't support European alt-right nationalist organisations out of mutual nationalist sentiment but entirely for nefarious reasons, political expediency, or realpolik. To further Israeli hegemony in the Middle East.


As soon as the Zionist led Alt-right has served its purpose it will be disposed of as quickly as it was embraced.


The Pied Piper of Zion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sGpRYSXKBw
What's most important right now is ending immigration to Europe, getting folks to acknowledge that European peoples have a right to create homelands that protect against immigration.

The "alt-light" nationalist organizations, parties like AfD in Germany, Geert Wilders' party in the Netherlands, FN in France, Salvini in Italy, these organizations are making real headway in Western Europe, building up a robust consensus among the common people that they need to protect against immigration. Whereas "hardcore" anti-Semitic nationalist organizations have, if anything, made the common people more apprehensive about nationalism.

There's not a lot of time. The number one priority right now should be building up a consensus among the common people that they have a right to homelands to protect their heritage. The alt-light organizations, however imperfect, are a step in that direction. Once homelands are established to protect against immigration, the hardcore anti-Semites can try to convert the people to "true" nationalism, or whatever, but for now everyone should get behind the "alt-light" movement that has made so much progress in recent years.

Your objection that Zionists will simply "dispose of" the movement if it no longer suits them rings hollow. How exactly can they just stop a movement in its tracks when it has built up a determined consensus among the people?
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What's most important right now is ending immigration to Europe, getting folks to acknowledge that European peoples have a right to create homelands that protect against immigration.

The "alt-light" nationalist organizations, parties like AfD in Germany, Geert Wilders' party in the Netherlands, FN in France, Salvini in Italy, these organizations are making real headway in Western Europe, building up a robust consensus among the common people that they need to protect against immigration. Whereas "hardcore" anti-Semitic nationalist organizations have, if anything, made the common people more apprehensive about nationalism.

There's not a lot of time. The number one priority right now should be building up a consensus among the common people that they have a right to homelands to protect their heritage. The alt-light organizations, however imperfect, are a step in that direction. Once homelands are established to protect against immigration, the hardcore anti-Semites can try to convert the people to "true" nationalism, or whatever, but for now everyone should get behind the "alt-light" movement that has made so much progress in recent years.

Your objection that Zionists will simply "dispose of" the movement if it no longer suits them rings hollow. How exactly can they just stop a movement in its tracks when it has built up a determined consensus among the people?
Race hate laws. Even assassination of nationalist leaders.

 
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If you have a robust movement, assassination of a leader shouldn't be too damaging. It can even serve to galvanize the movement. So I don't think that will be a problem.

As far as race hate laws, if you have built up a determined consensus among the people, they will control parliament. That's why it's key that these "alt-light" movements are gaining momentum converting people to the cause. The end goal is to have a majority backing the establishment of homelands that protect against immigration.
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If you have a robust movement, assassination of a leader shouldn't be too damaging. It can even serve to galvanize the movement. So I don't think that will be a problem.
Effective leadership is in short supply, anywhere you look. Entire armies have retreated in the past, after losing a leader. And we're talking about powerful Nations and movements here.

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As far as race hate laws, if you have built up a determined consensus among the people, they will control parliament.
If the people control Parliament, then why isn't Parliament honoring a vote by the people to pull from the EU, and insist on repeated delay tactics, which could keep Brexit in limbo, indefinitely?

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That's why it's key that these "alt-light" movements are gaining momentum converting people to the cause. The end goal is to have a majority backing the establishment of homelands that protect against immigration.
It depends on how much power and control the enemy commands in a specific Nation. For example, Britain, USA, France, and Germany have a far steeper hill to climb compared to Italy, Hungary, or Greece.

Yes, I'm saying a nuanced political approach probably isn't gonna work in countries like the USA, and Britain.

Some people point to Trump, and Brexit, as proof that such methods do work, but IMO, it's proof of how easily that type of approach can be derailed, because both US, and British people are unable to effectively hold their governments accountable. Or the media uses misinformation to make it appear like they're fulfilling promises, when they're not in reality.

One simply needs to look at, and understand how a conjunction of government, media, and education controls the people - to understand why a nuanced political approach isn't gonna work, unless we already possess some control of the methods required to effectively distribute that message. Also, exposure for the message matters as well.
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Old August 2nd, 2018 #11
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The reason Jews have been disproportionately influential throughout their history is that they can all agree on one thing, even if they disagree about all else: they are Jews. And this identity is a "religious" identity, where, by definition, your religion is what you are committed to above all else.

Europeans/Aryans will similarly need to embrace a racial-religious identity if they want to have a hope of surviving as a race into the future. And by "religion", I don't mean gods or superstitious nonsense, I mean something you are committed to above all else. That's what I call the race-soul in this thread; the basis for our racialism/nationalism.

Politics is actually secondary to racialism/nationalism, or rather, it's grounded in racialism/nationalism. The real battleground is the battleground for the soul of our race, and by "soul" I simply mean what our people value, what puts fire in their bellies, what they are committed to above all else. Jews have been fighting for the soul of their race for thousands of years. My gut tells me that Aryans have as well, and I intend to join the fray.
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The reason Jews have been disproportionately influential throughout their history is that they can all agree on one thing...Jews have been fighting for the soul of their race for thousands of years.
Fuck off Yid lover.

It is Ashkenazi Jews who dominate and they have not been around for "thousands of years." In fact they haven't even been around long enough to be 'Khazars'.

I've got property older than Benjamin Netanyahu's family.
 
Old August 3rd, 2018 #13
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So he got released on bail after all. He didn’t look in good shape either in the interview I saw of him, lost weight, he couldn’t gather his thoughts properly, not surprised being in lock down for 2 months.
 
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So he got released on bail after all. He didn’t look in good shape either in the interview I saw of him, lost weight, he couldn’t gather his thoughts properly, not surprised being in lock down for 2 months.
He looked tanned and in good health to me. obviously he was held in a plush hotel at a seaside resort, then moved to prison the night before his "release". Very obviously a state asset.
 
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Old August 4th, 2018 #17
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He looked tanned and in good health to me. obviously he was held in a plush hotel at a seaside resort, then moved to prison the night before his "release". Very obviously a state asset.
The serial money collecter from Rebel Media Ezra Lavant was there and got the first interview with him. I think what we see is a series of Israel First Zionist Shills influencing Tommy. Tommy can make them a lot of shekels, since he is now the anti Islam golden boy.
 
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A lot of truth here.
 
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I smell a rat.
Keen sense of smell you've got there, Joey.

And the rat you smell in this thread is (drum roll please!)... none other than George Witzgall himself. (Check out my sig.)
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